Been resistant to coming indoors. Nothing is off the table in terms of what we need to do to address the problem. But some of the things you brought up are addressed in the budget. We all agree were not doing as as well as we could be. Our department was not set up frankly and this was maybe on a error when the department was formed, but we were not set up to respond to people on the streets. And what were trying to create with this budget is to give us the space to be able to do that. As you notice, the departments who are asking for funding are not the police, theyre not public works, its primarily d. P. H. Asking for another person to have someone there fulltime, which is critical. Our Public HealthDepartment Needs to be there all the time. Same thing for us, to make sure somebody is there, seven days a week, 16 hours, as well as a more senior person to oversee what is happening there. And then d. E. M. To coordinate this in some ways, i dont want to say a neutral party, but theyre not providing frontline services, so making sure that the frontline staff, the hot team, the police, Public Health and public works employees are being coordinated by a Single Person in a single department. And were all frankly grateful to director carole and her leadership, but i know she doesnt have the resources to do this and shes been doing her best. Although its appreciated, they dont have the resources to manage coordinating quite a few departments. It can be like herding cats im sure for the folks who are there every day because we all have other work we need to do. I believe that all of the concerns that you brought up, were in agreement with them and we tried to address those with the budget we presented to you. Thank you. Im just going to do a quick time check. I know there is something you have to leave to go to at 11 00, is that correct . Director carl had to go to disaster council, so she just took off. So president yee . President yee appreciate this. Im beginning to grasp what is attempted to be done. To be truthful, i dont think ive had a really good briefing on this at all. Departments come to us and say i need a parttime this, and parttime that. And the next Department Says i need a parttime to do this. So i was never in my head able to figure out how the pieces work. And the line of questioning from my colleagues is helpful. I might be asking a duplicate question. Currently, these are new Staff Members that you want. The two the two million in the budget . Primarily, yeah. President yee in the past when there was an attempt to get different departments working together, it was done by staffing was there additional staffing to the departments in the past . Or was it it seems to be like you wanted to do some better coordination and trying to do something with the existing staff . What is the case here . I just want to fully understand. Id be happy to speak to that. I think you nailed it on the head, president yee. They started in january of 2018, so fiscal year 1718 and that was pulling together existing staff and existing resources to ensure better coordination among the frontline staff at the director said. There has not been affirmative additional management staffing or service staffing specifically for hsoc, it has been utilizing existing resources. Thats why answering the question that chair fewer outlined, that the resources allocated to this coordination effort have been utilizing existing resources. I will say that the Police Department, fiscal year, as part of the hiring plan, additional officers, a portion of those were planned to go to supporting hsoc, this is the first ask. But happy if members of the committee would like to have a more wholistic briefing about what resources the department is allocating toward that, but it was resourcing. President yee i wish i had the briefing before this. The question related to staff that has been used since january 2018, is it are these Staff Members that are pulling overtime, or is it just this pulling it from their existing services and taking away from that . Well, i can only speak for our department with that question. I will say that one of our senior managers who does not get paid overtime is essentially probably working 1215 hours a day because she is spending a significant amount of time at hsoc, because we dont have dedicated staff there and were making sure that theyre leading the services and were able to do the the hot team and d. P. H. Are able to coordinate our responses. So we have been really, frankly, relying on the committee of hsh staff who care deeply about the people on the streets and our colleagues and other departments, is putting in extra hours, but were not paying overtime. The other thing were doing, however, as i said earlier, were utilizing members of the hot team to respond to requests that are coming out of hsoc and theyre often engaged in other activities and taking away from important work they need to be doing around folks developing relationships and assessing them and getting them into our data system and what were proposing again is a team of, you know, trained outreach staff whose focus is delivering services, but dedicated to hsoc to were not cannibalized our other programs. President yee so i mean, its hard because there are different departments involved. If there is any department that is actually using a lot of overtime to help staff this, raise your hand. Not using overtime. Just curious. Any of the departments using a lot of overtime . Just to help with the situation . P. D. . Im sorry, who . Who else . Department of Emergency Management and police dispatchers. President yee if we were to support this ask, would it mean that there is probably going to be reduction of overtime . Im also looking where we can save money, too. Supervisor from the Police Departments standpoint, we increased our staffing over the past 18 months to make adjustments. So we believe that with we would love to see the other departments support it. We went all in from the start. We didnt ask for additional funds for this budget. But to have the other departments supported would really get us closer to what this model envisioned anyway, which is to lead with services. Recognizing all the challenges that supervisor mandelman and supervisor fewer and supervisor ronen brought up, we recognize and acknowledge that, but i think the where the Police Department is in a good position, the budget director said, last year we made a conscious effort with our infusion of officers to focus on staffing properly and thats what we did. So we feel like were in a good position. I think we can manage the overtime. I think if this budget is supported, it will probably reduce the overtime, so were very comfortable with that. President yee okay. I really appreciate that the departments are willing to Work Together and coordinate. I mean its something that probably all my colleagues have been asking for instead of working silos. So that is one point. And i think, also, i understand the cost and coordination of working nonprofits, working and trying to get funding for nonprofits for most my life. And its always the Government Agencies that you know, you should really coordinate with these other nonprofits. For instance, the beacon center. Well give you more money, but not to coordinate. And i always had to fight that notion that its actualliey cheaper to coordinate than not. I think when you coordinate, the results should be about who is receiving a product. Our customers, our clients or the people youre trying to serve. And for them it should improve, but it doesnt mean that its cheaper. I get that part. Im glad its too bad we waited so long, because one of the things that my colleagues have raised which makes it a little more difficult for these, yeah, this is what you should get, is that we have no data. But again, i understand when youre trying to cobble together a collaboration, coordination thing, with not necessarily any additional staff to do that, then there is going to be missing piece, which is Data Collection. So i dont know how to resolve that tension of wanting to support better coordination and providing what youre saying are the necessary steps. Which i dont know what is necessary and how impactful that would be. So if you havent collected, then what is the commitment to collect . And what would you collect to prove that this is actually effective . We are collecting 311 data and 911 data. And our ability to respond to those calls. I think the things, that already d. P. H. Will provide that information to you, im sure, today, i dont know the exact number of individuals who are highneed individuals who received assistance as a result of hsoc. We are collecting data. The controller has been participating and been helpful in figuring out the data we should be collecting. They published a report about this that is on their website. Im sure president yee i appreciate that sort of quantitative Data Collection which is sort of one step, but i think supervisor ronens point, you know, what i would like to see more of, a deeper dive into the Data Collection. What is the real impact besides im answering 311. Do you have any thoughts on that . I do in addition to the information the controller is collecting, i think we need to be providing a lot more data on the highneeds individuals were serving. The goal of hsoc is to better respond to 311 calls, to address longterm encampments and vehicle encampments and to serve highneeds individuals. I think one of the problems with our success and our Data Collection on the last goal is that hsoc runs 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. H. S. H. Only has staff there 35 hours a week. D. P. H. , probably less than that. The police and public works have a much bigger presence. And d. E. M. Is there, but they cant have their staff on the floor. So when hsoc is open, there will be someone with a social services lens at the table. Nobody at hsoc wants to see people who are struggling on the streets have to engage with Law Enforcement as their primary first responder, especially when its something with a complex issue and needs assistance from a trained social worker. Making sure that somebody is there, a social services is at hsoc all of the time is going to go a long way, not only letting us collect the data on the services provided, but ensuring that were doing a better job supporting the people who are on the streets and needing our assistance, as well as the other departments who arent necessarily trained for. Its not within their mission to be trying to develop relationships with individuals who are suffering from homelessness and perhaps other medical issues that are complicating their situations. Again, our budget request is primarily to improve Data Collection and to ensure there is a social Services First response that is actually happening at the hsoc site. President yee a question about the twoyear budget. It says 2 million and 2. 5 million, is that correct . The overall request for hsoc i believe. President yee i guess the question i have, if its going to take time to ramp up and hire new positions, then why is it just 500,000 more the second year . Or less for first year. Our request is . 9 million the first year and then 1. 1 the second year accounting for the time its going to take for us to hire individuals. President yee im looking at the whole it says budget investment. Page 4 of the presentation. I believe, president yee, all of the positions that are added per our standard budgeting practice at. 77, meaning they start after the First Quarter of the year. And then the second year of the budget is a higher cost because its a full year worth of supporting those s. T. E. President yee so. 77 of 2. 5 is 2 . That would be a quarter of it. So its about a half million. So we dont budget one quart over the year. We budget three quarters of the year in the first year of the budget. And then so you for fte. President yee yeah, its actually 1. 9. But 2 million here. In regards to the type of data that you want to collect, youre talking about as were asking, is it possible to give us a report of exactly what Data Collection you would like to collect within three months . Yes. We can definitely do that. I think where it gets complex, you know, hsocs role is to help get around this particular issue were talking about, is high needs clients is to get them into a place of safety. And once that happens, hsoc role is essentially done. Weve done our job. Weve gotten a person from the streets to the nav center or the stabilization bed. The outcomes are more dependent on the individual department. If someone ends up in the nav center, we need to be able to track that person through the nav center. President yee thats okay. You dont have to justify. I think what im asking for is what are you collecting so in three months we can respond and say, this is not good enough or its good enough . Currently what were collecting is, was that individual who we were trying to assist, did they make their way to a place of safety . Were you able to get a person from the corner into a Navigation Center or into and really thats when hsoc does not need to continue collecting the data. Our departments do and we can track people through the individual systems, but the goal of hsoc is to get the individuals who are desperately in need of assistance to a place of safety in a coordinated manner. We do have that information we can provide to you hopefully by the end of the day today. As far as additional data, you know for us, our outcome, is that person sheltered or housed . And did they get through the Treatment Program . We can provide you topline, you know, outcomes that were seeking to achieve, but it also depends on that individual and what their specific needs are. Mr. Controller. Good morning. As a department that is often called to look over the shoulder of other departments and assess and comment on Data Collection, what is being counted, is it the right things, is it achieving results . Just my perspective on some of the conversation here today, if we review where we were lets say 18 months ago, before this initiative started, the amount of Key Information being collected in a coordinated way and forms that are usable by operational staff, is dramatically improved, especially at that front end of the system. But really i think its the focus of h sock. There is plans in place to put a metric in place and we can give you a sense of that as well. As the director said, i think hsock is a lot about the front doors of the system and coordination of initial response. But simply, my perspective on where Performance Management and measurement is in this function. President yee okay. So ill just summarize where i am with this. As i said, i like the fact that the departments are trying to Work Together and solve a problem. I dont know, it does take more resources to do that. And whether its this amount or not, im not clear. The other piece is that if its going to also free up some of the Department Staff that has been working on this to go back to the stuff that they need to work on, thats a positive for me. So the amount, i guess, you know there will be a debate for that. But in general, im appreciative that were trying to coordinate rather than do everything in silos. Thank you very much. Director, i think you heard from this committee that were looking for more data and certain data points. I also just wanted to frame sort of my conversation earlier, is i actually colleagues, i actually had this moment where i said, oh, my god, we just sort of gave a nod to 4 million worth of new ftes to hsoc and i havent seen a metric on impact and what its been doing and how well its been operating and how many people are in hsoc. So i take this responsibility of actually allocating public dollars very seriously, because i know our public depends on us. I had a moment of panic that i didnt have enough data to support whether or not this initiative warrants another 4 million out of the budget. So im just going to say that i think that we called this hearing on a very late notice. It did not give you time to prepare, other departments to prepare with a full request for data as we do with other hearings. Quite frankly, we have a lot of time, departments push back on us and say we cant get the data, can you make it two months in advance and you did not have that opportunity. I want to say for you coming today and for me to insinuate that you are unprepared and somehow that is your fault, i just want to also put the blame on us, that we called this hearing at short notice without ample time to give you a list of data points that we would have expected at a hearing like this. So having said that, colleagues, what i would like to do is work with this controller to actually look at metrics that were looking at. This is a frustrating situation for all san franciscans, and especially for the director who works on it every day. I will say that i think we should probably have a separate hearing on this that actually can go into the knjoe nieuwendk that we dont have today. I think that the board is concerned. After we have a complete investment in, a financial investment, but then i also think that weve invested, you know, a lot of thought and time and im hoping that this investment actually, when we see the data, will show us that were headed in the right direction and were making a breakthrough. So having said that, i want to thank you for coming and well continue this conversation. Were not i think prepared today because of the lack of data to actually maybe change some things in the budget, but well have discussions about it. But i wanted to say thank you for coming. I think that what weve learned here is that there is much more that we need to know about the efficacy. And so well work with the Controllers Office to set up those metrics. But we do appreciate the coordination. We do appreciate that there are more departments looking at the same thing at the same time, versus all of us doing their own little thing. Were going to tackle this issue of homelessness, it takes a coordinated effort on behalf of all departments, and not saying thats not in my shop, thats not me. I feel like its all our responsibility as it is all the responsibility of san franciscans, so thank you very much. Thank you. Id like to call up the Police Department to continue our budget conversation because i believe we have a proposal. Okay. Here we go. Morning. Good morning. Morning, chair fewer. Supervisor fewer thank you so much for the collaboration after our conversation yesterday. Thank you. And if i could take this opportunity to thank you personally, chair fewer, and all the members of the committee, supervisor mandelman, ronen, and president yee for working with us on this compromise. We really appreciate it. Thank you. Supervisor fewer are you ready to present . Yes. Supervisor fewer great. So ill start with the larger issue with the overtime. We feel this compromise will support our efforts over the next six months while we continue to civilianize and get recruits from the academy. Well have the funds to increase the neighborhood foot beats. Well commit and continue to focus on our car breakin issue and continue to bring that down. For our transit hubs, well continue to work with community and their grant funds to help cover ours so well be okay there. And for the bar station, our foot beats will be able to cover civic center plaza, the transit stations, and that leaves ground on the ground we gained in making those areas safer. This allows us to continue to have and manage our mid market. So we really want to thank you all for working with us. This will continue will allow us to continue the momentum weve had over the last couple of years in reducing crime and engaging with our community. And more importantly, we stated how important the foot beat is to that initiative. This will allow us to do that. So we thank you very much. In terms of the union square ambassador program, weve reduced the funding request by half. So what we plan to do is roll this out and pilot this on peak hours and peak days. And well work with the Mayors Office to address any concerns related to retired officers. Thats the protocol. You do have our word and my word well manage that. I know there are concerns there. But it really is about putting the right people on board in this program and the spirit of what were trying to do is really engage with the public, be there. Be eyes and ears to address the issues that are really impacting that area. So we thank you for working with us on that as well. Supervisor fewer thank you. Supervisor mandelman has a question. Supervisor mandelman i think there may be a document floating around that i dont think i have. Supervisor fewer i think theyre presenting it on the slide, is that correct . Yes. Overhead. Supervisor fewer it looks like we might have to zoom out a little to see the whole thing. Ill go line by line. The original request for 1. 2 million of foot beats becomes 776,000. The 367,000 for the Housing Development and Bayview Mission and central stations, were asking to keep that. 800,000 for neighborhoods, were reducing that by half. The 200,000 for the health streets team that was for the conventions and the major events. Weve eliminated that. And the transit, the 400,000 for transit, tourist high season areas, foot beats and car breakins, we reduced that to 1500. Well continue to focus on car breakins, but also leverage our relationships with muni. And take advantage of hopefully grant funds to shore that up as well. 500,000 for mid market and civic center foot beats. Weve reduced that to half, down to 3,000 hours. So in total, 28,000 hours has been reduced to 14,000 hours. And again, we feel that over the next six months, as we continue to civilianize and get recruits from the academy, well be able to make the adjustment to keep that momentum going at the end of the next fiscal year. Supervisor fewer comments . Questions . Supervisor mandelman so i want to thank you, chair fewer, for your willingness to entertain further discussion after the hearing yesterday. I do have i think this seems like a sort of reasonable compromise. I do think it doesnt address the issue that was raised yesterday by the b. L. A. Of what is happening with these recommendations around better managing overtime within the department. And to i think to move forward with this is still a significant increase in overtime. And i think its reasonable for us to expect, given im not even sure my colleagues are willing to move forward with this, but if they are, i think we should expect to hear back at some point before the next budget around what happened with the june 2018 recommendations . Which ones specifically is the department in agreement with . And what is the plan and timeline for implementing them . And i dont know if it would be reasonable to put there is already a large amount of overtime in the budget. Youre not going to be drawing this down presume ply for a while. So i think it might be putting this on reserve funtil we see that. As mr. Rose pointed out yesterday, we did agree to the recommendations and we can definitely come back to the board with Progress Report. I brought this up yesterday. Even in the b. L. A. s report, some of those protocols that are in place, they were specifically recommending that we have policies to support the protocols, so we definitely can do that. Weve agreed to do that. So were perfectly, its a fair ask, and were perfectly willing and were able to come back to the board with a Progress Report. Tangible Progress Report on the issues. And i think there are comments as well. I just wanted to comment on the verve, the impact reserve. The impact if this was put on reserve. We wouldnt do these services. So we dont just have a big pot of money and spend. We actually have allocations, we have event codes. So if we say were going to do neighborhood car breakins, 15,000 hours 1500 hours, well be working with the captain district stations to identify where to prioritize and how to allocate that and there will be event code. Supervisor mandelman how do you allocate the other 18 million of overtime . I mean, i had a slide up yesterday, but for like arrest and investigation, each district station has an allocation based on a fiveyear trend. So every two weeks it shows how much theyve spent on their annual allocation. Miss welch, im sorry, we saw from the staffing report that the b. L. A. Did, youre setting trends on the trends of the Previous Year when our own staffing report shows that your arrests are down and your overtime is up 76 . So thats the data youre using to actually set the time . I kind of think that okay, sorry, i dont want to question your management, but a performance audit shows us that arrests are down 30 , overtime is up 76 and youre using this data, the same data to actually set the allotment of time . So, supervisor supervisor fewer how does that interrupt the cycle of lower arrests, but 76 increase in overtime . I mean maybe im hearing it wrong. So from a higher level perspective, the trending is so we can set up budget. And something weve done, at least since ive been here, is every station, every unit has an allocated budget, so they use Historical Data to try to predict how much overtime will be spent this current year. Thats a management tool that we use. That is a practice that you have to base your usage on some type of data. But to your point, in terms of the arrest versus the amount of time spent on overtime, it was brought up yesterday, but there are some differences over the last few years in terms of what is required in an arrest report. The review of the body camera reviews. The requirement, the dagg data, the tagging of the videos, those things do take time. Were trying to take a handle on how much time that takes. And thats why our staffing in the unit, with the coding and the event codes, and when officers have the station writing report trying to get a better handle on quantifying those times, the administrative time, which we know over the last few years, it has grown because of statutory demands, laws and changes in policy, but were trying to quantify that. So moving forward, part of what the b. L. A. Was recommending was that we put systems in place. Tighter management controls. Approvals in writing. Those type of things to help manage our overtime better. We agree with that. We think its the right thing to do. And we welcome reporting our progress back to this supervisor mandelman how long would it take you to come back to this board with your plan or implementation of recommendations . We can be back here probably within three months with the plan and then be back with the followup after that to see how the plan is working. These things arent recommendations were in writing and some of them, as i stated, are already happening. So three months. Supervisor mandelman my desire is not to make your the work of the people that have to keep track of your funds more difficult, but i do think that we must see what the implement because i think, the statistics that we heard yesterday around the number of your officers who are getting twothirds of their compensation from overtime, which diedra is saying, no, she doesnt believe this is true, but there was what were the statistics . You dont remember . Okay. I think we were troubled. And i would like to see, at the very least, you know, a report back in three months on what the plan for implementation of those recommendations is. Supervisor stefani thank you, chair fewer. First of all, thank you for working out a compromise with our budget and legislative analyst office. Looks like were reducing this by half and i think that is a good compromise, although i feel the need is out there to do more. But thank you again for working on that. I want to ask a question to follow up on what supervisor mandelman asked. My fear is that putting any of this money on reserve would prevent or hamper the deployment of foot beats in our neighborhood immediately. So i would like to ask you, would putting that money on reserve right now hamper the deployment of foot beats into our neighborhoods right now . It would. I mean, the timing of this, the structure of what were trying to do is have those Funds Available beginning in the new fiscal year. The back end of the fiscal year is when the recruits would come online, would add more people to the field. So immediately it would. I want to validate the concerns about the o. T. And the rest of the committees concerns, but my feeling is, if you can get us report in three months about that and i know we have a huge a larger staffing study being done that should be out in the fall that i think will also speak to this, but for me, im adamantly putting this on this compromise money on reserve at this point, because i believe we wont have the support that we need, the foot beats in the neighborhood. So thank you, again. Thank you. So i see that we have a proposal in front of us. And i want to appreciate the fact that we are weve come to sort of an agreement. And thank you, chief. So were also looking at cutting the union square budget by half, right . Okay. Do we need a report from the b. L. A. . Madame chair, i just wanted to confirm the numbers . Supervisor fewer sure. So in our recommendations that we presented yesterday, recommendation number 1 in the Police Department was for the overtime. Total recommended reductions of 2,368,201. My understanding is that reduction would be reduced by 1 million, so its now 1,368,201 reduction, which is slightly more than half of the proposed reduction we presented yesterday. And then recommendation number 7 was for the security and union square. And my understanding is that reduction would be cut down the middle, so that would be reduced to 113,000. So the original total recommendations for fiscal year 201920, they were all general fund onetime reductions. Were 3,118,201. That would be reduced by 1 million to 2,118,201. And then the union square recommendation, number 7, was a policy recommendation. Our total policy recommendations presented yesterday for fiscal year 201920 were 1,687,081. If thats reduced by 313,000, the new total policy recommendations would be 1,374, 181. And all of these adjustments would not have impact on the recommendations for the second budget year, fiscal year, 202021. For regular recommendations, we did not have any recommendations for the second year. But for policy recommendations, those are not going to impacted by this. Supervisor fewer thank you very much. Any questions on the numbers at all . So, chief, i want to go back to something that ms. Welch said. She said if we put this in reserve, this wouldnt happen. So the car breakin units. I just want to reassure our listening public, and people in the audience, that even if you didnt have this overtime budget, that you would still address the issue of car breakins, is that correct, chief . That is correct. Supervisor fewer so i just think that statement was incorrect. Because it is not to say that if you dont get this overtime, you will not address car breakins. Or you will not do foot beats. This is saying actually, that this extra money allows you to actually implement more staff to these areas in excess of their regular 10hour or 40hour work week. I know there is a shift change. Is that correct . Thats correct. Supervisor fewer thank you very much. And i also just want to say that even though this is the money that is for foot beat, you, yourself, said, in times of emergency, in times of these are not guaranteed. That you will need to pull staff sometimes off of these areas in order to meet the Public Safety needs of san francisco, is that correct . That is correct. Supervisor fewer okay. Thank you. So do we have consensus . No, i dont think there was a suggestion to put in reserve, but i think were not going to put it in reserve. Okay. Great. So we have consensus, supervisor ronen. Were good. Okay. Mr. Controller, will you please note, it is the intention of this committee to accept the recommendations for this department and this agreement between these two departments. And our heart felt thanks to our b. L. A. On all this hard work theyve done and also to our Police Department for coming to this agreement to serve the people of san francisco. Thank you very much. Thank you, chair fewer. Supervisor fewer colleagues, well take a break. Were going to take hold on one second can you let me continue what im going to say, michael . Please . Were going to take a break to 2 00. However, i would like to have Public Comment right now. Is there any members of the public that would like to comment, i would invite them to comment please and well recess after Public Comment. And, michael, i want to make it very clear michael, hon, i want to make it clear, there will not be another Public Comment after this, so i dont want you to have to wait, so i wanted to say this is the time for Public Comment now. And were not going to have another Public Comment. [interjections] supervisor fewer im going to reset your time. Im talking about when i first that you got 30 seconds left. You cut me off and shortchanged me there. And then about you letting other speakers let supervisor fewer michael michael, sorry apologies. Public comment is starting now. Everyone has two minutes. Mr. Wong, will you make sure that mr. Wright has everything set up before we start his time. Well not have another Public Comment session. Were going to do it now. Mr. Wright, would you please give us public testimony. All right, now, if she made a 4 million mistake, you still got time to correct it. Okay. Thats number one. The second thing, dan, b. L. A. , i want to survey of the salary increases that the board of supervisors got. They got 150,000 more than what theyre making now. Okay . I want survey and Impact Report on that. Give you a test of your own goddamn medicine so you now how it feels. Now, s. F. Viewer, and also this guy here, from city college, mark roca. He lied. He said he was 11. 5 million in debt, further review, the truth of the matter is, hes 32 million in debt by city council free. It was jane kims idea. Make her pay for it. And him talking about making this work, students going to school for free and its a good program, lets have a chancellor, lets have him work for free, instead of paying him 250,000, 300 thousand a year and the students going to school for free, let him work for free. I want to tell you about this 12 million that you have in the budget. Everybody going around here acting like you got something to do with that. You got nothing to do with that. You had 88. 2 million negative tax when mayor lee died. And you have that negative cash flow when you took over. You aint got nothing to do with that money. None of you. You got that . He wanted you to cut back on all your departments. And the people that are homeless, you cant serve them with the kind of system you got. If you keep doing like youre doing, youre doing the same damn thing over and over and over again. There is nowhere to go. There is no shelters. Supervisor fewer thank you, mr. Wright. Next speaker, please. Id like to know that you are closely Monitoring Child Development spending for example. From what i understand, there are 400 children being supported in 12 centers and 32 children in nonfamily child care homes, Baby Sitting Services essentially for 3monthold babies, to 35yearold children depending on the site. There are 102 children and 8 pregnant mothers in homebased programs. There are 48 weekly, 90 minute support visits from what ive read. I have a total of 532 kids here. And 8 pregnant females. Im looking at a 24 million budget last year. And as of last weeks budget proposal, it looks like there was 11 million and Something Else for an additional 32 million i believe for the same program. At any rate, i understand they provide a meal program serving tens of thousands of infants and toddlers. Essentially a food program. I understand they have a childhood or Child Care Provider support Services Department which is a mouthful. Do you have access to their disbursement journals . Apparently providers are welcome into the program as well as the child care provided is less than 24 hours a day, 23 care [bell ringing] 20 hour child care in a private home would seem to be acceptable with a program that doesnt child care facilities share public space with the ymca. Provides record 60 kids. Its the largest of the Child Development centers. Im not sure if there are 17 or 12 centers located at a church, city college, the cadillac motel, the boys and girls club [bell ringing]. Supervisor fewer thank you very much. Next speaker, please. Hi, my name is brian edwards. I live in district 5 and when i can i serve with the coalition. I nearly broke my toe going across town say when i heard hsoc, there was going to be a presentation on it. Im disappointed its not commander lazar, since that is who runs and architects hsoc. That being said, you dance with who is here so i have to respond to what is said. Hsoc is 17 or 18 months old. And were still talking about what we need to do with lead with services. Thats a really, really flawed system. And so the idea that were just going to dump more and more money into what is criminalizing homelessness and actually penalizing us when we go for hud money, it takes away points for us when we criminalize homelessness. He said that two nights ago that the shelter system was closed down by 5 27. At 8 00 that night, they were doing sweeps in front of st. Anthonys. There is a disconnect. This coordinated response to homelessness is not very coordinated. And its being led by the policemen and the Waste Disposal people. Thats not a good system. Not a good system at all. These new positions created for hsoc, its not like theyre returning one for one, people back to hot team. Now were creating two different tiers of outreach workers. My guess is that is because there are people that would love to work for hud that dont want to work for hsoc. Its a flawed system, were 18 months into it and were still trying to figure out how to lead with services. There are no services, there are no resources. Thank you. Hello, my name is armando, im with the coalition on homelessness. I would echo the comments made by brian. I was going to say the same. Its clear that hsoc answers to the police commission. If you were to ask them, thats where the authority for them goes. And what were doing by funding these positions at hsoc is dedicating money to not resolving or alleviating homelessness, but growing that system. [please stand by] [please stand by] people on the street hate hsoc, because they know this is whats facilitating sweeps. Instead of every week or two weeks they are getting hits, its literally every day they are getting hit by sweeps, okay, thats what this is. The money needs to be going into hsh for actual resources, not for this. Its not like keep it down with the overtime, just be sure to offer it for everyone. Yeah, dpw overtime. The people with the narcan, hiv medication, where people are overdosing and dying, okay, this is a major issue. The let me see. Oh, also, its making our neighborhoods less safe, okay, i had folks in my neighborhood id known for years and protecting a disabled senior who i live with and now they are swept out and hes been targeted and three times hes been assaulted recently when hes had folks there for years protecting supervisor fewer public that would like to speak on items one and two . Seeing none, Public Comment is now closed. Well recess now until 2 00, and reconvene then. Thank you very much