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So I have this down after the Foreign Office confirms that the u.s. Diplomats was involved in a phase an accident in the u.k. No longer has diplomatic immunity book out is there of bringing him to Britain to be interviewed by the police also for the 1st time ever a human runs the marathon in under 2 hours with yeah we did it and here is. One of Europe's most wanted men and this is not a jab you did front also for this morning's virtue books for in an hour's time it's been 2 and a half 1000 years in the making you know we're asking for the choosing that delivers the best message what she delivers the best message you can text me from now on 8558 e-mail a full night at b.b.c. Doc. Both enjoy this directly for the phone and in an hour's time 180-859-0969 extension 3 what she delivers the best message as you heard in the news the Foreign Office says a u.s. Woman who was involved in a fatal car crash in Northamptonshire no longer has diplomatic immunity because she's left the country 5 lives James recommend James this of course is about the case of 19 year old Harry Dunn who was killed remind us what happened yet Dotson he was as you say 19 when his motorbike collided with a car near Croton in Northamptonshire That was back on the 27th of August now police says c.c.t.v. Of the crash in which he died shows a Volvo traveling on the wrong side of the right facts we know was driven by and secure a listener she just left the base which is a u.s. Air Force communications station she's the wife of a diplomat was living there and returned to the u.s. After the collision apparently citing diplomatic immunity. What is differ about security all stems from the 1961 Vienna Convention So essentially what it says is that diplomats and their family members are a 1000000 from prosecution in that host country so long as they're not nationals of that country bought it does say that that immunity from prosecution can be waived by the state that has sent them so in this case that would be of course the United States now when there are around $22.00 and a half 1000 people in the u.k. You hold diplomatic immunity should be said most of them don't break the law bought if a diplomat is found to have broken the laws made it a big breach of the law there are certain things that the host country and in this case obviously Britain can do now let's go back to October 27th teen the vend Foreign Secretary Johnson now prime minister of course said in a written parliamentary answer that the Foreign and Commonwealth Office doesn't tolerate foreign diplomats breaking the law and when there are instances of alleged criminal conduct brought to our attention by the police we asked the relevant foreign government to waive diplomatic immunity where appropriate for the most serious offenses he said and whenever relevant waiver has not been granted we seek the immediate withdrawal of the diplomat I see and we do we know what's the response has been is there been any word from the Foreign Office apart from this to no any response also from Mrs coolers the woman in question yes so so massive changes in this case in the last few hours so the foreign secretary Dominic Robb has written to Mr Dunn's family that happened on Saturday to explain both the British and the u.s. Government's now consider Mrs circuitous is immunity from prosecution irrelevant. The family spokesman Rob Sega told Steve no one on 5 Live what has happened to know in the last sort of hour Steve has been breathless I've just been informed for a couple of officers have delivered a letter to the parents of Harry which says that the cyclists have manners I haven't seen it myself I haven't had a chest die just that I don't know the reason behind it what Because don't forget Stephen we were with Dominic Rupp the foreign secretary on Wednesday and he looked all of us and all of us in the eye and said that she did have a community and he was quite sure with me what I tried to argue that that was wrong so today's Saturday I was free for days what's changed if that is right why have this family I don't protect right from the start why have this family been put through this. 40 minutes ago I got a fault phone call from Harry's parents who are still back home to say that they just had a knock on the door at a better job someone who introduced himself as us for a couple of office official having to live or the letter carrier the last time I received a handler for daughter and that I know opened it up read it and apparently it says that they have agree that she does not have immunity. So apparently dom this lesson said we will press strongly for a way river munity so justice can be done while the u.s. Government has steadfastly declined to give the waiver that is not the end of the matter so says the f.c.a. Says we've looked at this very carefully the u.k. Government's position is that immunity and therefore any question of waiver is no longer relevant in Mrs securities case because she has returned home the Us has now informed us that they too consider that to mean a say is no longer pertinent in other words she's gone home therefore she no longer has diplomatic immunity now Nick vast Scuse me. Nick vamose whose partner at the law firm Peters and Peters He's a former head of extradition of the Crown Prosecution Service has been looking at this letter which was as we said delivered this evening in one sense it states the obvious which is. Curious has returned to the us she no longer has diplomatic immunity because she no longer in the u.k. Alas covered in the Vienna Convention which says that when somebody leaves that. Classic hunk sions they no longer enjoy the privileges and immunities of a diplomat so it's unclear though from the foreign office whether they think that means that she can now be subject to criminal jurisdiction because she is no longer here she's in the u.s. Well I'm not sure because there's no precedent on this is whether they would respond to an extradition request because of course that would be bringing her back to the country where she did have the math community at the time she committed the offense if she did in fact committed what a boat Mrs James has anybody heard from a year well not since this hand delivered letter came to light but there was a statement earlier on Sat. Today know it said Ann is devastated by this tragic accident no loss compares to the death of a child and an extensive deepest sympathy to Harry Dunn's family this statement from her legal representative Amy Jeffress said she would continue to cooperate with the investigation saying she'd spoken with all forages at the scene of the accident and met with the Northampton police at her home the following day ever heard any move from Mary downs from yet well they previously said they've been trapped in a living nightmare ever since the son was killed in August now as as we said you know we did hear from the family spokesman Rob Seeger early who'd spoken to Steve Nolan here on 5 life. Sorry Harry's mother Charlotte Charles has also responded directly statement says As a mother father and parents we've known from the start of the extra feeling in our pit of our tummies told us that something wasn't right we're proud of ourselves for fighting for justice for Harry and not ignoring this nor in between within bodies we'd rather have our beautiful boy back but we are also elated that all this fighting for justice for Harry has not been in vain his life will not be swept under the carpet We'll continue to fight for change to the diplomatic immunity laws and any other positive changes we can achieve we need to try to ensure this never happens to any other family so what next question and we don't know I think is the answer at this point so we didn't we don't know basically if Mrs secure this is going to return to the u.k. Now. We seem to have to do quite a few times during the course of this chat Dalton We got a return kind of a few days really to get some context on this now the prime minister Boris Johnson on Friday said that the u.s. Was absolutely Rufus Those are his words in the safeguarding of this is secure list following the decision to initially grant her that diplomatic immunity he said although present. Trump was sympathetic towards Mr Dunn's family's views on the use of diplomatic immunity the u.s. Was very reluctant to allow citizens to be tried abroad now all of that followed that revelation that she wasn't going to return to the u.k. We discovered that because of briefing notes held by President Trump when he was photographed at a White House news conference but now well let's let's find out I mean that may have all changed with the decision by the Foreign Office that after all she didn't have diplomatic immunity the question is whether she had diplomatic immunity or not now I suppose it goes into the realms of is she actually going to be brought back is the government or anyone else in a position to bring her back from the u.s. To answer more questions as Nick vamose said earlier we know it's a case of watch this space James thanks very much Elliott kids become the 1st athlete to run a marathon distance in under 2 hours between the 120 minute mark by 20 seconds the 34 year old Kenyan cover the 26.2 miles in one hour 59 minutes and 40 seconds on a prepared circuit in Vienna is achievement won't be recognized as an official record because he used a team of pacemakers and had a car projection of beam of light onto the road showing the ideal speed that won't have stopped the celebrations back home in Kenya though is the reaction of his friends and family back in his home village in Kenya even really someone less cheerful before what you really should see what was. He doing that give you really believe in yourself or interesting yourself happy it would be one of the street and they told us it would do it and that's why you get one in and then only in the last year we come to see us last night waiting for the circle to vote and it does happen finally. Let's reach a professor Scott traffic who as well as being the director of the Human Performance bull State University in Indiana is a well toss traffic lete itself Professor how great an achievement was this oh it was outstanding one of 10 let's give it an 11. They say this sub 2 hour marathon is seen as the last great barrier of modern athletics would you agree and I think in the context of what the current sporting profile looks in the world I think this was definitely one of the last key races to sort of have a significant barrier attached to it that people have been so pursuing pretty quiet some time so I think the mindset of that is fairly accurate but the fact that it's not seen as an official world record does take some of the shine off. God you know I think that will be debated a profit more light to it actually I think at the end of the day you know it's proven it's can be done if you look at the sub to our attempt they did hear 2000. 17 and then they lowered you know just missed it by 25 seconds and then we set a world record the following year 20139 and then this yesterday in Vienna I think it's just going to set the stage I wouldn't be surprised it's not too long before we see some to an actual performance I suppose you could compare it to Raja bettas to break in the 4 minute mile 60 years or more ago. And that was. Not performed it wasn't a tournament circumstance was it self was. Organized So you know preempted. Record breaking right yeah he did he had to pay surge with him that day at the track you know exist same type of thing we're going to pursue for years he breaks a record it was actually on May 6th of 54 and then 6 weeks later John Landy breaks it in Finland you know and it started to fall considerably after that so there is a huge psychological component associated with the 4 minute mile I think there is a huge psychological component associated with the 2 hours of marathon so I think you will begin to see that they're being pushed. How did they manage this would to be have to do. Things in terms of human in durance professor how do you. Achieve something as phenomenas. Well you know outside of you know idea of course settings that they had when you look at it from a you know a physiology exercise physiology perspective you have to really have all the key ingredients come together the body stature was ideal the engine could choke he has had. Huge engine a car engine the economy running has to be near perfect. And you can tell when you see him running his camera can't see so he has to have a hive of slow fibers in his legs they're built for endurance and then his ability to thermal regulate and I like that. You know obviously he's been on an engine for years and it all came together this sounds like a lot to break it is. Almost seems to be beyond the brilliancy of any ordinary if I could put it that way human being is extraordinary in the way that you describe it well I think there's a lot of people very close lipped that it feels here you know so to all 5 and I think this is going to push that barrier for a lot of people to shoot for you know again to is not any defeat by any means and a lot of the elements have to come together for this to happen it's credible when you think of the pace you have to maintain to break the 2 hour mug 26 miles or more it's just it's no thought Joe gets old in the park is it this is almost a sprint race now days. Well I was actually thinking about that when I was around him today so his pace of a call for 34 per mile I'm in the us I think by miles. And he would have had to run 68 seconds per one lap on the track. Average and most people can't even go to the track and do one lap at 68 seconds to 400 so it's for most mortals it's a sprint. For you have variation we only have one show in Europe so we can think your Miles is well Ok good it is. Clear why it seems that it's the eastern european long distance runners that have the gym trajectory Kenyon's that the frost has marathon runners have Kenyan heritage Yeah there's been a lot of discussion about that you know it could be you know sort of a chin in a clinic which could be associated with it I think you have to put genetics on the table body stature you know in a kid choking ran at a very young age they ran a school so this is sort of endurance Foundation gets played in a very young age long distances so there's sort of bodies there just built they have the physiology to do it so you know at 34 years old this didn't happen overnight he's been more or less doing distance running since he was a child so it's good nothing to do the shoes. Well I definitely think these new shoes that have been put on the market with the card of play them in the phone that they have and. I've been following that pretty closely there's some nice data from from laboratory testing that suggest that the reports are quite accurate in the anecdotal comments across stage groupers the pros e.c.m. Everywhere I think the show's issues amongst everything else were or at least part of the factor it's a race spin to North 1000 isn't making this a. Yeah that's a good way to put it if and when you look at the you know just over the last 100 years we've taken about an hour off the time. Thank you very much really appreciate it so it shows. Yeah thanks thanks a lot Professor Scott Chafee there of the bull State University in Indiana and. My link that virtue Jew books phone in this morning it to nothing 1000 years ago the marathon the legend has it at least the marathon was 1st run by a Greek soldier to tell the people of Athens from the Nazi far the distance town of Marathe and that the Persians have been defeated and of course he delivered his message and collapsed. To not Townsend years ago. Foden in a way has been to nothing in years in the making from Friday this when we were asking you what's the cheering that delivered the best message obviously then every cheering you could describe was having a message was the chain that delivers the best message for you takes me on 85 and 5 email up for night at b.b.c. Dot co dot Yuko George is for the phone in in half an hour also 180-859-9693 now back in April 2011 it's believed that Chevy Dupont illegal on killed his wife and their 4 children before burying them and the family's dogs under a patio of the family home in known in north western France the last confirmed sighting of the wanted man was on the 14th of April some 10 or 11 days after the murders until it seemed a few days ago when a man believed to be Dupont De Leon was arrested at Glasgow airport by police acting on a warrant issued by the French at this point it was so the man was traveling on a passport stolen in 2014 we now know. That wasn't the case the traveler who was detained has been identified as Guy shout who lives in Limaye north west of Paris so despite hundreds of sightings the police appear no closer to catching up with job you do phone so who was c.e.o. Indeed Who is he any good he is part of the team behind the distortion Pod cost and he's looked extensive into the depot and delusional story I mean tell me 1st of all when did you when and why did you decide to look into these murders. I Mr Ali bio 1st it's a pleasure to be with you tonight honored about that. Cast is based out in Montreal in Canada so we didn't hear a lot about this story so it's part of our French community because our podcast is in French it's a French Canadian cast and some members of our French community reached out to us saying Hey this there's this shocking story of a man murdering is an entire family here in the months and you should cover it because there's a ton of the interesting digital leads and you know digital clues leading to the to this mysterious man and we didn't hear about it at all back in the day so it was pretty intriguing and we we took a deep dive and yeah we started gathering a timeline around the murder around his runaway because he's apparently maybe still on the run or maybe is that we we don't know yet so yeah it was an intriguing case and we it really caught our attention because it was not covered at all up here in Canada what about a man 2 for the killings is one been established. Farnie a motive for the killings has emerged have been established now there's less Yeah there's there's many different theories regarding the motives 11 interesting lead came from from the Internet communities actually. Because at some point Internet communities gathered on different forums on social networks on different places on Reddit for instance and then we started looking at all the digital footprints that savvy a left left behind and in some in some forums example you mentioned that at some point he was. Thinking about the idea of a sacrifice so he was he you was a Catholic believer and you posted the numbers times on the Catholic forum and then you mentioned this idea of committing a sacrifice for the sake of God and then it raised it raised the attention and you know following all these digital footprints. Internet communities also looked at what is why for Agnes was doing on wind and she was also posting in different forums about having trouble in her relationship with 'd the exact v.a. And also in different e-mails example you mentioned that she was having heavy financial problems and issues and that's why I mean I think that it's hard to establish a motive but if we take all these all these ideas combine I think we have a good risk that before a family side and probably that he wanted to hand his own life after murdering his entire family that's that's shocking but that's maybe one of the most possible teary at this point even so even so even if he had taken his own life and that hasn't been proven there's no evidence towards that is that even so it's almost impossible in this day in age. Isn't it to just vanish into thin air Why do you think this case has proved so far insolvable for the authorities. Yeah that's that's really true though it and I think one of the reasons why we believe why some people still believe that he's on the run is because he has been seen so many times e's the man that people see everywhere he has been spotted an elite in Spain and now he was spotted I mean it was it was a wrongful arrest station that let's be clear about you he was also spotted in Glasgow so I think that because we see him everywhere he has a so so familiar faces he looks a little bit I mean used to look at least a little bit like a Hollywood actor so a lot of people were seeing him pretty much everywhere because as you mention it's very very hard to stay on the run at our digital age that's why. Most people go towards the suicide theory because we've been following him you know for a for a while or left a lot of digital footprints he was seen on camera withdrawing money he was also seen carrying a rifle case where you haven't done is car near. Us in France so it was seen at multiple places without really a worrying about that so I'm pretty sure that if you were still alive you will still leave some digital footprint say here and there are so it's pretty impossible to vanish into thin air at our digital age thank you really appreciate you talking to us. Thank you very much Mr Alibi you know it was a pleasure. Part of the team behind the distortion podcast after the news and sports will kick the week's news from Hong Kong you can imagine what that's like 1st let's get the latest 5 Live headlines now Clarkson from digital b.b.c. Sounds must be going on on this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live the foreign sector dominate Rob says the American woman who was involved in a fatal car crash in Northamptonshire no longer has diplomatic community and secure as the wife of a diplomat returned to the u.s. After the collision in August in which 19 year old Harry Dunn was killed breaks it talks in Brussels will resume later after a damning Stuart Downing Street source said last night that they were a long way from a final deal the negotiations at the commission have been described as intense technical discussions a 15 year old boy has been charged with the murder of a schoolboy who was stabbed to death in Stratford in east London on Thursday the teenager has also charged with grievous bodily harm with intent to relation to a 2nd victim and scholars are waiting to find out if their match against Japan at the Rugby World Cup will go ahead later a number of games at the tournament are being cancelled in the past few days because of Typhoon bass which has forced millions of people from their homes in Japan to go arrest the sport at his drop Schofield son Helens claimed their 1st Super League title since 2014 comfortably beating sulphide Red Devils 236 in the grand final at Old Trafford head coach Justin Holbrook is returning to Australia to join n.r.l. Side Gold Coast Titans Captain James Robey said they gave him the perfect sendoff grab or. You can tell by the ripple of the funds he's got I noticed players in the cash make Ali an offer just days ago. Tactician you know it you know it's a game inside out he sets a standard George's players and we know what was expected of origin Yeah it's all you I deserved it at the world gymnastics championships in Stuttgart Britain's mass Whitlock. Regained his title in the pommel final he becomes Britain's 1st gymnast to win 3 world golds on the same operators are speed just. Like car believe me and why I'm really pleased about is I don't like they were seen above on their 1st day so I made a small mistake and begin it which I think cost me and I want to pretend so you know hopefully in the future I can work a little bit lower and then end up even more there are a couple of problems of so Hot American Summer in Biles equalled the world medal record held by Vitaly share as she claimed her 23rd with gold on the vault Great Britain's Allie downie took the bronze medal Biles did miss out on the chance to better the tally as she finished 5th in the uneven bars final Ellie's older sister Becky took the silver there for Martin world record holder Paul Target has told b.b.c. He knew it was possible of his compatriot and it to complete a marathon in under 2 hours but want to target Think about it being done in race conditions it is possible because it is also of course will all say pull it together get it repaired and knowing that someone that only someone as a bogey under 2 hours it is possible under normal much on it will it will merely might not be able to be needed but it will be ample it's possible it's only have secured their place at Euro 2020 with a 2 no win over Greece Spain can get over the line with a draw against Sweden on Choose day surgery Ramos became Europe's most capped male I feel player in their one all draw with Norway Republic of Ireland are joint top of Group d. With Denmark after a goalless draw away to Georgia in boxing Josh Warrington has successfully defended his i.b.s. 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Radio 5 Live on the b.b.c. Sounds like what. We've done you Vincent. Daddy Good morning with God so the protest where we are. Good morning it's Sunday morning here in Hong Kong and that means only one thing really that protesters are planning for the latest stage of protests across the city. Today they're planning 18 different rallies in different districts here in the territory . Things don't seem to be deescalating in some ways the numbers of the protesters taking to the streets going down but the people taking part in the protest that becoming increasingly comfortable with the use of use of violence. The police are being increasingly targeted also subway stations and shops are being trashed so it seems that even after 19 straight weeks of protest it's very difficult to see where this is likely to be to go and how this is likely to end your average Hong Kong citizen is very guessing trade says fatigue at least. In some ways they are because every weekend and many times during the week they're seeing the same headlines and the same photos on the front pages of papers and across that television stations and I seeing young people clashing with the police increasingly people using petrol bombs. Towels bricks in the place of firing rubber bullets and gas to gas canisters back at the protesters but at the same time many people that I've spoken say they use words like Hong Kong is descending into somewhat of a almost like a civil war because traditionally after the umbrella protests in 2014 people tended to take one of 2 sides politically speaking that divide themselves in terms of yellow which means they support the democracy movement or they'd see themselves as blue which meant they basically backed the government and they backed the white Beijing is you know is. That is running this city and that type of language is has come back again in recent weeks people see themself either as blue or yellow and this means that on the streets when police arrive at protest Sainz when they arrive or sometimes residential areas looking for protesters have taken part in some of these violent clashes residents are also taking to the streets sometimes people that are not necessarily taking part in the marches but they're just incredibly angry at the police and they stand outside of their own apartment buildings and shout at the place sometimes for hours or skin them to leave so of course some people are tired of what's happening here but at the same time the city is increasingly divided and it is just impossible to see how at this stage things can return to normal so there is still a lot of support for the protesters for the democracy movement if you like despite the fact the less and less rank and file on Kong residents are taking part in the presence. That's right I mean many people here in Hong Kong you know that their family history. Technically puts them opposed puts them in a position where they oppose the Communist Party this is an immigrant city many people fled from mainland China during the Cultural Revolution and during the famine So this city traditionally hasn't been the type of city which is typically in favor of Communist Party rule wittes it's one country 2 systems here it's a very different political. Environment from the rest of China. But but at the same time there definitely is the feeling that people becoming tired of seeing the same scenes the same images and the wondering now if it's possible that the government here unlikely to even meet the demands of the protesters calling for so it's it's just it feels like the city is in a political deadlock is there's still a focus on the. If I might use the term uprising you know there might not be the correct terminology set that but at least the protests and the violence is. Are they did the targets make sense because we've seen this week coffee shops are being targeted for example and you think it's so well said about. That's riots in some ways it feels that one of the most important goals practically for this movement despite the 5 Dumond's is simply to keep the protest movement going keeping people engaged in keeping obviously the international media interested in what's happening. And also just just making sure that if there was a possibility that things would change in China the majority of Hong Kong people are at least not apathetic they're less aware of the issues that the young people the next generation feel that they're fighting for. But in some ways it does seem that this movement has lost some focus in the beginning of the process movement it definitely felt like a protest movement millions of people would take to the streets and I would hope that at the end of the March that take place and it's possible that the government mights withdraw the extradition bill which was of course the original reason why people took to the streets that Bill has now been technically withdrawn and there have been 5 demands of come on top of that. But it's difficult now to say exactly how the protest movement I think that the events that are unfolding every weekend here it's difficult to say how those steps are moving closer or moving the process movement closer to their end goals because it seems that the clashes with the police the violence in subway stations in the targeting of Cafe shops and other stores affiliated with mainland China is unclear to see how that's up of action to help the protesters reach their political demands and what about the ban on face people wearing face masks in public is that then holding. So yesterday we saw hundreds of people take to the streets again despite this ban now Originally people were protesting months ago because of the introduction of a extradition bill which people felt would have eroded some of the freedoms that people have here in Hong Kong now some people feel that these new emergency laws which is which is the background which introduced this mosque law people feel the the freedoms of a gang being being eroded. As it was thought that possibly bringing these type of laws in. Would've helped to quell the violence and maybe push many of the people off of the streets but in some circles it's created more anger and it's created even more momentum is given another reason for people to get out onto the streets but it seems that people are increasingly becoming very comfortable with with breaking the law the majority of people that do break the law and there were a mosque during the protests that of course not arrested. The protesters they sometimes cause damage and they go home and prepare for the next crisis so it seems that this this law certainly isn't working forgive me for bringing in a slice of popular culture it's a very serious conversation but it struck me as I watch this new movie Joe yesterday the movie starring Joachim Phoenix with a Batman to his to of course struck me as I was that the this could be Kong where there was like a plethora I don't know if you're familiar with the film but anyway there is. A. A section of it which is with people wearing face mask on the streets clown mosques and cetera during disturbances on the streets of Gotham I wonder if that film would be allowed at this time in Hong Kong. That's an interesting question the film actually is being shown in Hong Kong my watch it last week this week myself and there are all some. Parallels you might say with what's happening in Hong Kong certainly protests that I've spoken say. Spoke about the use of mosques and the the widespread unrest in the city it's interesting that in mainland China many films are abandoned censored especially because especially films have political undertones presumably because the Communist Party fears they could influence members of society so as all sitting and watching that film just a few days ago and watching the crowds of people wearing masks I was thinking about Hong Kong and the type of influence it might have here and of of course many people wearing all sorts of more stream protests people of even more Donald Trump masks. Mostly people like a small scale and surgical masks to protect them from tear gas but there have also been reports that people are wearing the mosques already mosques very similar to those shown in the joke I'm a very. Interesting where's it all going to end Danny is no way of knowing who will blink is not the right word but who will. Succumb to the demands 1st whether it be Kerry lamb the chief executive who will acknowledge or accept the demands of the protesters it's highly unlikely that she could offer any more than she's offered already out of thaw will be the protesters who eventually cave in under the full force of the law in Hong Kong do you can you is there any indication as to where the window of changes varing. It's difficult to make predictions because I think at this stage nobody expected the protest movement to last this long even the protesters when I speak to them they they tell me that on June the 12th and July the 1st which would see key dates in the protest movement when they tried to storm and eventually did storm Hong Kong's parliament to try to stop the extradition bill from being read they felt that was going to be the last day of this entire movement and here we are 4 months on and people are still taking to the streets there are more demands there's more anger and there's more there's more violence and people willing see to use violence so it's difficult to see where it's going to end but I think what we do know is that we've almost got an entire generation of Hong Kong people feel almost the same way about the authorities here in Hong Kong and also the Communist Party so if this protest movement was to end in the short I think that we've got a generation of people that feel angry and despite the rise in China in the children's economically they will potentially continue to achieve we've got generation of Hong Kong as that will fill a level of resentment about what's happened over these last 4 months so it is difficult to say how how those feelings of are going to be changed within the months and years to come we have whether you can put the genie back in the Baltimore or not Danny thank you really appreciate it Danny Vincent there in Hong Kong Meanwhile on the other side of the globe look at it from our perspective you describe a lot of the security forces in Ecuador have clashed with protesters who want the government there to scrap all steroids the measures agreed with international creditors indigenous leaders also now and they've agreed to hold direct talks with the president Leonie Morin a b b b c Monday's journalist in Sri Lanka in Ecuador is Mattie Isabel might see is just remind us about the reasons beyond the protests. There isn't a simple one now week and a half ago they president decided to end the only sea of 40 years of subsidize fury. That decision made 1st their boss and I see the rioters rise and then the indigenous people who decided to March to keep up against these outdated to measure similar situation to Venezuela are thought not too far away if you will because again there's the protests against the government remember they were triggered by the removal of subsidies towards few. Years is a similar situation by your cups on the pardons for example in Minnesota that you have a really polarized society some people really favor of fun of they were meant and some people are really against the government and then you don't have been dishonest part or that you can hear you know. What difference is that indigenous facts would make in their cause the mission is more of a man to topple down 3 presidents 199-720-0200 extension 5 when the mission as we do March to get though usually they count the president there because indigenous population make up what percentage of the population inmates between 70 and then percent of the population but they are really strong in rural areas and in the whole lot of Robinsons of them on times of mother so when they March through this corridor they come out really forward because they got all the rows they get to keep door and they are really strong and how a long tradition of mobilization. Yet the indigenous populations in neighboring Peru and also further down the coast symbolised are also very strong all these is say you do they come from the same indigenous reach the people of Ecuador Peru Bolivia no not even inequality they come from the same group you got the groups who live in the mountains you can study for areas inequality you can be a God I was I am where there are not indigenous population. That go where there are some initial population relation operable Asian Then you cut the cord there not the mountains and then they are not even in a while or they belong to this thing group how badly or how strongly has the removal of the fuel subsidies affected these indigenous groups you know when you when the Browns are hugely increase usually everything around. Their taxi for. Their whole and you know use all of the stuff what about it on the day that one from rural areas to the city so everything will be more expensive . To do do they understand do the people understand that the president has been forced to implement these these measures because of the restrictions on how they run the economy. You know from the banks and so on. Then they saw us a condition of they are of their I am air one of the shoutings in their March in Quito East keep the amateur out of a partner so they see it as a direct relation with the i.m.f. Conditionals to lending money to the gov And how will this send Mathias what will the government was the government turns reverse its history make a charity measures can it Ok the government our offer to not complain is a compensation plan they don't want to take by that measure they are overly concerned compensation indigenous who were not really fond of this compensation plan but today we woke up with a gun you know that they are supported I did a dialogue with the president but then we come incidents in Quito the president decided to extend the curfew they care for you oh yeah a couple of days ago it started at 8 pm And now is that 3 pm and the president who is not in Quito who most the while actually decided the militarization of Quito because because we carried a serious incidents and get out today with people and back in the Department of Justice t.v. Channels and the main newspaper can the government survive this. We don't know who will kick in the situation every hour we'll know the president doesn't by we don't know in Gaza by. Rote blow all around that God That is the political prisoner is really high and I hope that the economy got it got being low for the last. Mathias we'll return to you and get more on this on another night thank you for now Mathias Isabelle that from the b.b.c. Is. In Ecuador Let's catch up with the headlines stateside now from Lynn Sweet to the Chicago Sun Times good morning hello to you the president is coming your way the president of the United States is coming to Chicago where there's no love for music there's not enough there is no love for President Trump and he has been a big critic of Chicago ever since his 2016 presidential campaign so what's interesting here is that he is making his 1st visit to the city on afterward 28th and he's coming mainly to race but he for his reelection effort but there's also a chance that he's going to you know to be talking to a national convention of an International Association of Police Chiefs So this is this will be very interesting because he bashes Chicago constantly and the city's crime he has withheld crime fighting grants to Chicago because it's a sanctuary city almost every elected official in Chicago has opposed this Trump and his policies so this is at the least a can bust a ball situation and added on tap there were $28.00 former president Obama is expected to be and town that day for a big meeting of his foundation so well how. So so just to give an example of how. Anti Chicago Trump has been and how he has talked about Chicago's struggle to account back crime even when he talked to this police chiefs group last year and Florida he's devoted some of his speech to the problems of Chicago I can't imagine what he's going to do if he actually does speak to this group in Chicago. Police chiefs one other point I'm sorry. One other point Chicago is the location of a very big Trump Hotel and Tower and one possible location for the fundraiser he's going to have is at that hotel and even if it's not there then Hotel has served as a focal point of protesters 30 years I could only imagine what may happen if it did he actually comes to Chicago his 1st time as president over lookin at one of your. Newspaper you'd think the Donald show was the new Jesus well so this is they magically allied with what we're talking about one of our columnists Neal Steinberg did an interview with a with a noted Christian theologian Jim Wallace who is a specialist in the way and evangelicals that's his background and the conversation in the column is about the 80 percent of evangelicals that do and have supported President Trump when his policies are not so Reverend Wallace talks about aren't out with Jesus would have preached it's a pretty compelling read from the perspective of the theologian in trying to square the evangelical support which he concludes is not really about religion it's about politics so that is done from the new Jesus on. No he's not he is he is he is neither he is someone who I think that Robert uses this as an example of his message to get back to the values that Jesus preached and that he is. Is that belief that casting him. Anti he says using them as are by to do the other Jellicoe is to get back to what you say you believe I'm the school children of don't sing in anticipation of some free holiday. Maybe so this story is the host cities out pick the right now because we're going down to the wire on a potential teacher strike now we've had lots of stories on it lots of interest the issue isn't as much about pay as about getting more nurses and social workers in the schools very dramatic just before we got on the phone and I got e-mails from both to you and yet at the bear that there's that the bear has made another offer there's got to be a prayer service on the part of the Union so would else the strike deadline is coming up in a few days and the I don't know if it will go down to the wire because you do have to make some preparations so students know where to go you know if it's if it's a park district. Daycare or what you can't just have to parents wake up in the morning and have the schools closed so this is very dramatic and everyone is watching this story in Chicago and no doubt the Oval Office is watching it as well because something of the changes were on strike when the president comes to visit he'll have something to talk about one city Well if it if it were on strike so he's coming to $28.00 it would be a long strike if it happens. It would it could maybe be a Burkean of 2 stories so we'll see we'll see if any presidential candidates come out to support the workers Bernie Sanders so far has nothing in the newspaper this morning about this event in someone's day Messick. I'm sorry to disappoint here well we'll see what tomorrow brings. Tomorrow will bring a new day no doubt and. As always thank you very much always a pleasure Lynn Sweet of the Chicago Sun Times will open up the phone lines now for votes is 18 The question we're asking is what's. 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