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Now let's get the latest on the ashes with Jonathan Ive read 317 for 3 Australia now has brought out as his 150 with successive boundaries of Moeen one to the 3rd one to the midwicket boundary he's been terrific for me he's 155 not out shore March with him on 19 Australian not far away now from reaching England's 1st innings total of 346 there 317 for 3 commentry continuing on 5 Live Sports Extra with the Test Match Special to Nick Hatton has the rest of the sport Virgil van Dyke began life at Liverpool in the best possible fashion as he started to pay back his 75000000 pound transfer fee with the winning goal in these Deb you in the Merseyside derby at Anfield the Dutchman 2nd half header enough to give Liverpool a 21 victory over Everton and secure their place in the 4th round of the f.a. Cup also through Manchester United 2nd half goals from deskilling garden. 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To sign up where you'll also find the Terms of Use this is where for fun you know 5 of them gotten added by which talk about football in Europe and South America grows from of them playing in our league as well when our regular updates from Sydney in facts are men are men are relegated him to now joint and over and is there with Brant in the studio here with me before you answer a question about whether there's any equivalent to the wearing of pink in Sydney this morning in football in South America let me introduce you to a young journalist of the day of the night. He can sing. Did you know that famous singers got Mackenzie. Scott Walker Yeah that's what I'm talking about guess he's in the studio with us. This is you know with us you've got another Scott Walker even today it doesn't sound like the same Scott Walker does it him. Thinking maybe he's been taking it too easy on himself not really Scott Walker not so. Football part and he's got a program that goes out nationally nationally at least locally Leicester and a place where lesser won the league that year you were big Lester your program your grime and football programs my radio show started the year after because I mean world. Sports shows love in it so you're not the Scott Walker we're looking for you that's the dog that's the door over there is here. And I'm not like that you know feel free to join in and I was asking you about the Were there any sort of similar tributes I suppose in the South American football. There are a lot of players who make donations and Neymar recently made a donation to a cancer charity but the flat formal appeal type things and the best one I can think of that comes to mind is from England perhaps this is just because I happened to be there on the day when I think the thing was being launched but it's the Bobby Moore Fund. I'm going to be in it was a pre-season friendly when they retired West Ham retired the old Upton Park they retired the number 6 shirt. It was a fantastic occasion it was a pre-season friendly with money going to the Bobby Moore Fund and since that fund has been has been running that. Eradicating bowel cancer cancer and since that fund has been running that they proudly point to the statistic that mortality rates have decreased 30 percent obviously that's not all down to the fund down to medical advances as well but the fund is clearly playing playing a key role in that wonderful statistic clear. I How are you. Thank you one question is about Carlos Tevez the only player who lenders West. He's gone bad 1st time and next now he'll be 34 the same age as my son 34 and is still training like mad as a picture on analog Twitter. Where is he going back to for the 3rd time. Bachar Junius how cool my childhood of my dream team and I saw them a couple of these guys they played in the pre season Emirates caught my bucket team I want to and I did see them and they were fantastic and he had a and he Brussels said he wanted one of the balloons because and see them wouldn't play in blue and yellow cycle as it was really an absolutely brilliant because what does Tim think of them going back and if you're a child to think and then the Argentinian the causes of their prison a retard international football. International record is very very poor it's appalling something like 10 goals in 70 games. Love to get mean is opinion on this was think about this today when I was think about 7 who managed to get out of went to China a year ago and he just said really he said you know I never really left never really left pocket that mentally probably didn't and he took an entourage of like 50 people to China with him including his golf coach so you just try to recreate recreate these in Shanghai I mean as it is after in China. They said he was fat when he does have a tendency to put on white. Eastland right down now there was talk and this was part of the negotiating process but there was talk about it maybe retiring but he's always like to have a moan he has a moan more every gallows he's such a difficult fella to put up with I think and I'll always think about him because. I'll see what I mean obviously has a entirely subjective love for him because of the great season the one truly great season he had in Europe was that you Ventus the other clubs the one stuff but he would be when he was he was never the main man and as soon as he that is one great season event is what do you do he ran back it was almost like a declaration that you know I don't really can do this again but this is where aware of what I mean is opinion is I was thinking about imagine in a competition to find the world's strongest man so you get tain all together you know what someone wins but someone has to look at some of those to come last as well you know someone of all of the candidates for the World's Strongest Man someone is the weakest he's still a strong man but in the company of the world's strongest men he's the weakest and I think about this because of those players who are seen as world class. I think have is the worst easy is the weakest world's strongest man in a world Strongest Man competition as. Well you very lazy or in the great season lazy made the car well what's that that's a golfing metaphor which I think he would appreciate Yeah but I want to see if meaner agrees with me or who you can thing and then honestly speaking of farm Argentina and I have to pick a forwards between. Him and the ballet the I do know that you're going to think I'm. With you would you do it Mel someone who's you know I don't know is filed in China. Somebody you know. It's a national record. You know when I think. Actually I think that the one season that he has incidentally a lot of people of mostly why agent of the things that come to come and win me into being the coach that anybody is is because one of the reasons again to have it you know and I agree is we managed to bring something out of him to make him live up to the potential that we all knew but it's like you said right he just doesn't mind to exhaust himself and having to play with that kind of composure and having to constantly think and sacrificing himself you know rather than relying on him doing things and he's kind of selfish right that at times he was also too just just holding himself I mean I just remember this because it was a case brought to the Romans and he was just so desperate to get a goal but it was a great chance to bring in a lot of what I thought was young getting out Michael because you know possible issues going on and he was there when comes to didn't say it like you know why he should wear the school of this and just holding himself bag and going and giving it a little nonchalant if you don't come when you can score this and then you go you should be able to school and then about over to change market right he just came out and he blossoms and he became one of those the Stop days that you vented but watching to do that it was almost painful for him going to very same time it's why we were so indebted to him at the time because it's like he finally. How to Be a good leader how to be to develop to his potential to show intellect sincere to show compassion almost you know but and this is something that he was taught by a coach that I think is one of the finest never recognized for it but. I don't know if yes because when he is added his very best this is the thing right you know someone said to me the best ability is available right so it's about a player who's always consistent who always gives you something you know if the last said he was 20 he is a you know that that's life but then if you if you think about it run on team you know for example wasn't someone who was consistent in the sense that he didn't play football at the highest level and when that 1000. My 20 year period but I'm very best we can not be grounding at the mostly ignorable Well just just just on that note let me bring in Jonathan a friend in Sydney and the reason why I bring you in Jonathan is that in a former life of course people will know you as 5 lives tennis correspondent yes I remember a conversation that you and I had you might remember I'm not going to give away the name of the person concerned the player concerned unless he wished to divulge it but remember this conversation has been about whether Tim victory is suggesting that Carlos Tevez was the we kissed of the people the place it could be considered to be. You know world's great his players. Or what was it was the phrase used him remind me again. It was something about me it might sense. Strong. Today because I wanted strongest when you become not. Well the strongest players come last he's the weakest of the world's strongest if you like and you do remember you telling me about a player that you felt was the most. The How did you put it you said it was the. Basically you saying he was the player punched above his weight the most of the players all right Ok. Well I yeah the name that comes immediately to mind is to Mammon that's the guy that was the Hammond is a guy who reached 4 in the world reach 6 grand slam semifinals came very close to you know to getting to a grand slam final potentially winning one particular the French Open 2004 many people remember Wimbledon 2001 of course and even ease of each semifinal but here was a guy you know with not a huge amount of world class ability but just had the whole package and for me to to do what he did in the game was testament to the amount of hard work behind the scenes his professionalism and how he managed to get get the wins on the tour absolutely he was a he was a top 10 player for a long long time and you know he had he had a great career and so many people had a go at him justifiably that's the Carlos Tevez of tennis really in the way that him because when describing him and not really because he's been indulged I don't think that the comparison stands up at all and one of the things I think that probably held back was all of the adulation that he's got in Argentina the plier of the people because of his is very poor background and so on I know that the story of Argentina in the 2010 World Cup is a team that matter Donna had qualified he just got them over the line and they were looking all right and me Mina would would probably approve of them because they were reasonably sound defensively and then he had to find room for 10 days in his team he had to do it and he ended up balancing his entire team they got an absolute show wrapping from from German. In the quarter finals and and the reason was they. Don't you just couldn't leave Tevez out the team he had the dubious the psychological. Thing that Tevez had to play which was shared by huge I mean to one when I went out to Germany Messi was playing fetch and carry for 10 days which is a mad inversion of what their role should have been but seventies indulged indulged in dolls he's always always been indulged so I think he's the only one team around him and that one Ok fair enough join of the drone tell us what's happening where you are yet 320 for 3 in Australia is still there 155 not out Shaun Marsh with him 22 not out Joe Root his ball in the captain right now is given Mason crane are a good go the young leg spinner on debut Mo anally as well as taking the one wicket to full today that of Steve Smith but Australia heading now towards that 346 which was England's 1st innings total and then obviously they'll be into the lead and can add as many runs as they feel like the softer than. I on the one big appeal for out and he's got on that show marsh out caught behind unless he wants to review it he's going to stride up to the other end to talk to his mum to watch but it looks like Joe Root has the breakthrough here Marsh's Nick one behind well taken by Bairstow but it they are going to review it so they're going to head to the 3rd umpire to the d.r.s. Review system and 1st of all they'll look to see if it was a no ball because Tom Curran had one disallowed effusion hike for a no ball before lunch which is most unfortunate but no that's Ok So has he nicked it has he did so well with the reaction of the crowd what do you think they're saying are they saying no he hasn't there did seem to be a noise hot spot will play next now this is the sort of x. Ray system which shows the mark of the ball on the bat if indeed. The ball has touched the batter tell you what it's very close Dawson snickometer will come next is there a sound as the ball passes the bat tell you what it looks like there isn't it looks like Australia are going to get away with this one. Not out what a shame the umpire gave it out to rigidly behind but all the review today are us and you've been talking haven't you about v.a. Our virtual assistant referee is the system that's going to come in in football what there is evidence of how it works in cricket the umpire gave that out the technology shows it was not out and what a minute later on we go with the game that was really exciting even more exciting than who car in tennis. Fabulous to see. If we want to get into football you know it doesn't you know it is a 101 we had to wait so long as you say tennis it happened those and the cricket happened as fast as they can possibly do you know with the football if you want to know get with me no you just go ahead carry on talking the way you want to go. There you go thanks very much for that grades we Jews were Ok we could harm it with us in London I mean. And I have made oh hello sorry after you I knew I was having my Yeah so sorry don't worry. Turns out all the time I only want to be on the way I think I should say thanks to Gary for leading us into that car was to have his car she was before you introduce your question let me let me go back to a question that or a conversation that we had with Mina and you on the program about sliding tackles I know there are young journalists in this huge body Jonas you might have these on this is well I mean it's got views on sliding tackles Scott 1st of all of the Scott Walker sighting tackles you want to talk about great Arsenal team Yeah yes I thought by sickly I grew up of an era where it was players that I was watching and I was a young sense back and I was watching players like a on. Even even 5 or feel like in the sense of boxing. They were masters of sliding tackle I just it looked like into the very last 2nd they were going to catch the player and the people and their foot would just move that show something and you just in or and you were just thinking how how can and so for me I see the beauty of they were rubbish defend is essentially what you're saying so yeah I mean you know quoting to me you know for me this makes. Adams in who has. Some convoluted but I believe thinking me coming to direct in something and in what we're talking about sometimes where I do think it's necessary or when you do when you can be a great player but you have to indulge in these kind of sort of like emergency talk all the way you know imagine a situation it depends also on what kind of support you're playing so a lot of people don't rate. So you're around Also the center back is a reason. In England. Ok so for me is outstanding and that's why he's on standing is because he is a guy who's very rock who doesn't do the things a lot of his emergency play him and I think back in the you know obviously these international what that play of football is that Madrid are so it turned they're still going forward that one on so many occasions to your left with these 2 center banks their own one on one situation it's much harder to have organization and have a unit in place so they are relying entirely on their own ability to overcome and to do that and so when you want able to consistently manage just lying tackle and hold the opponent despite the way that your team is playing for all then you can be an exceptional defender in that way but I'm talking about more players who are within the system you know I I'm a fan of sides I have a defensive system because it's the system always kind and less pressure and before I go back to have made on this very question would you like to add a caveat to your demonizing of anybody he deigns to slide in a tackle. Remember we're not dealing with normal people as Scott was talking or was remembering the 1991 f.a. Cup semifinal I like to remember the 9091 f.a. Cup semifinal and the Arsenal fans only white at a stadium the singing about their full backs no no. No if you want to you can walk going to go to the stadium thinking about your fullback Lee. Dixon the kind of people and leaders he's trying to bring you to. Thinking about Therefore it was the large ones who want to. Not do. That I mean I mean what do you think about these sliding tackles in favor of I mean. I mean I think I've got Scott Shane aeration I grew up watching the great Arsenal. Back line and I mean I mean. My plaintiff and I know it was. Mine you know actionable but. I grew up and still today my my favorite thing on the football pitch is the last sliding tackle and we are not over yet so you know you're right. But you know I want to thank you and I mean we love. The essence of danger is the fact that you know it could be a bad go or it could frighten someone's leg and you also wonder if you're. One of them because it's like an accident when you see sort of. Ceded the you're seeing in slow motion because as soon as as the slide comes in left of the camera you think you. Want to see I mean one of the one of the reasons I love watching Jack Wilshere play is because every time he gets tackled you day one. Which I'm caught in a bar of course it's about time liar but you do sit there and go wrong so I mean there it is and I don't like the sliding tackle and. He should be back. And there's. Going to die. You know how I don't want to kind of you know what kind of looks in the heart of Scott Walker but you. Make his point have made I think the appeal of what being exciting tackle is probably you know and I think sort of. That glory away from that from that attack in the last 2nd you know if it's really exhilarating I think but actually when you're playing for a defender and reading the game is nice and everything but the adrenaline rush of making that last exciting tackle you think the bulls you know that going to go one on one on my keeper I was going to cross it in for an easy task and I mean I mean you should write and print and then you just take over chill you away from it to me that is growing up watching that that. Close enough that's what causes why so the 5 a side. School Committee on somebodies ability to school it will be a fine and I think I think I think this is the one of my questions but it's a good point that Scott raises I think yes he is much nowadays I mean I think benefits rose tinted glasses but maybe a part of that I wonder is that children a little kids and even people my age are growing up playing on Ashura Test victories and father side where the rules say you know outside tackle and play on those pictures and it really annoys me because it takes you know the most enjoyable part of my game away where your taxes get everything and I wonder whether that's why you know people keep on growing up you know able to meet take you take some of these skillful players and they just don't know how to really do not know how to. Perform a side tackle which you know when I grew up now it's just the pomposity of of again if one could do it I mean it's just glorious and then maybe it's just getting enough time to talk about anything to grabbing him or so far you do actually have a question as well I think. The voice game to say. Something they have no idea where the back end. So my original question was for me to go to Lisa to my guess is well you can you can check in on but I was wondering what rugby they've got so big screens and they broadcast the highlights. Live for the referee on the pitch to see is what is the audience at same time they also go that guy in the boosting up and watching our lights more closely on a small screen possibly longer in what why can they do that in Italy why do they have the little screen where the ref can only see and I still run across what can they just. Put on a big screen and everyone can see and the rest of the Nets will scramble to the sidelines it is. This is where I have to explain everyone because they don't want the crowd here or at the moment they wanted to go on a one. For a moment let's get the latest for our blog headlines I was Dana Campbell. From the mile from the illegal one house this is b.b.c. 5 Live the chairman of the parole board in England and Wales is to be summoned by M.P.'s to explain the decision to release the serial sex offender John Worboys the former black cab driver was jailed in 2009 for attacking women in his taxi the author of a controversial book about the trumpet ministration says he stands by everything he wrote dismissing the president's claims that it's all lies Michael Wolff fire and fury has become an instant bestseller despite being condemned by the White House high energy proton beam cancer therapy will be available on the n.h.s. At a center in Manchester by August with a 2nd in London by 2020 previously patients who needed the treatment was sent to the us all Switzerland House of Fraser is asking its landlords for rent reductions the chain has yet to announce its Christmas trade informants but rivals Devon arms had a difficult festive period and has issued a profits warning let's get the latest on the ashes with Jonathan unfriend Australia a 327 for 3 had a 3 of the 50 sure Matias 27 has been cold water with him has 156 thought they had caught behind a few moments ago of the bowling of Joe Root given out by the on field given not out by the d.r.s. System right decision to not hit the ball but the right for Brett along side me again Joe Root into the attire he has actually worked well for a charge as we sort of get that breakthrough one it wasn't all it's game in Melbourne just one up and well when I went for sometimes is that bowler that just come in and get a bit of magic. As well you're skipper leading from the front at times but it just wasn't to be this one fortunate for him again not a whole heap of luck for England in this Test match Australia going well 329 for 3 so they're 17 runs behind England with those 7 wickets still standing. But you wonder why he's had a night to remember on his Liverpool Debbie the corner she was . Was. Was was founded beginning at life a little hole in the best possible fashion as he started to pay back a 75000000 pound transfer with a winning goal in his Debbie win the most he sighed Darby and failed the Dutchman 2nd half header and of to give Liverpool 8 c. One victory of evidence and secured their place in the 4th round of the f.a. Cup. While no fully The serves obviously and. Short amazing to be that they're going with this this goes and the. First question for me and obviously far from is will for Everton I got back into the game at 11 I'm a pushing for a winner now before Vandyke's like had their manager Sam Allardyce thought his side did enough to force a reply we gave everything we could today and I think that. In the end we were disappointed that we didn't take him back to our place and when they get there we're in there and on fortune for all she perhaps Jordan if instead in the line much of my to say I'm ready for she lost a few minutes to go through to the 4th round of Manchester United to no one is at home to Darby county United they're made to work hard for that when goals from Jesse Lingard are normally Kharkiv coming in the 84th 90th minutes United boss Josie Marina was impressed with the Championship side they defend very very well Carlsen played well of the Post played well for them they were close to replay doesn't surprise me for me the championship is coming into their actual. Their Premier League level it's just they play in another competition but they are probably elsewhere Ross Barkley says he's overwhelmed to be given a fresh start at a club like Chelsea he's joined from Everton for $15000000.00 pounds on a 5 and a half year deal while Everton have completed the $27000000.00 pounds signing of to strike at Towson. Botham ended that 3 match losing Premiership road with a comfortable 4625 victory and next to bottom of the pro 14 scholars open a 7 point lead at the top of conference Bay They scored 7 tries as I beat dragons 47th at the preschool 5 tries as they be something Kings $3077.00. 5 of them in addition with Sarah Bryant also not on Tuesday's often in addition Sarah and I will be joined by rap song writer and television personality Stephen Manderson aka Professor Green. Speak to 2 guests at the show and also what working class white men in Britain feel abandoned and still how we changed. Them In addition with Professor Green Tuesday for more on b.b.c. 5. The fust for news and the best lodgepole this is b.b.c. 5 live up all night with dogs an attaboy out. Show for the World Football phone in. Tuesday. At the moon. So Scott you know this is singing I couldn't tell you if you Scott will go. Have a listen. To a good bowler. You know recognize our voice of not recognizing that you've never heard that voice before I probably have but I haven't heard that so. Your old man is never play Davis Royce before you know my thoughts know my thoughts and read into this sort of music so it was your dad the gave you the name Scott Walker the noise my mom is your mom is my mom now so your mom has a break he's got woke up she's going to be so music anyway it was a complete accident that there was going to be private school to go to but I was it was an accident that there was somebody not famous. Which is you but yeah it's a little bit already famous school yes interesting today and this is called Walking your namesake Yeah. Is he good to you into it you get into diggin Yeah I wouldn't I wouldn't listen to a soul music. On my own Normally you can appreciate a good thing because you're grime and I'm a fan of crime. If ever I've ever seen him he's gone to the grime that's good isn't it isn't hate it is growing up. Anyway I. Think I think by now you will know you will recognize his voice from playing again next time I'll be I'll be shy on it Ok this is the next time I have a listen to this it's got. You know this is. To go. Right down south of there in there in there and took a while we got there in the. Phone And this question that we heard just before the news media and Tim is well about video refereeing Why does the ref after run up and down he says he can get fit mean it. I know there were you know you have to dos a call for you now are you going to do it. Anyway And would you honestly why just exploring social life with Andres Villas Boas you know something about coming out that she gets out. Are you could be. A bit of that. Kind of don't you don't know right referees Ok Geez did you guys want to come on come that will mobilize that was an incident with when you watched the highlights where no one really understood what was going on in the wind amounts which were around Madrid then onto the area. Because basically everything went quiet and when you look out for involved and is that the referee basically dulls a box like he used to mention you know he mimics you know like a box with his hand to say that he's going to go and check the screens to check that we play to see whether he's going to stand by his decision or not so how likely is that you know people who review the position if they think I'm a joke or they think something wrong has happened and they allow the referee he then goes and does not fine to say I'm going to go with you the footage and then everyone has to go and wait and see but you know there is like on like you know every time because it is really low tech because this is a problem right on like a log be on one Crosby as I was and you know we just had antennas where you have all cry and everyone can see the question you know what's going on that doesn't exist for the fans so when you're sitting in the stadium it takes a while to realize that actually bar is taking place at the moment unless you understand that the referee is disappointed to say I'm going to go and watch the footage so you can see what he's seeing you don't see the replay yourself and this is the whole thing right because it is subjective I mean ball was great when it's a cakewalk decision but you know something that's you know sort of black and white but the problem with football is that there's a lot of you know shades of gray so what you can determine to be a foul that you know that should be you know given or won the. Actually he won the ball so it finds a clean in that's objective to some of them so a referee can still stand by what he can have an equal if you want if he's decided on something he's been called to review the footage he can go quietly watching the footage and then signal to say well you know what I'm struck by my presentation so what you need is a greater level of transparency and this was a way for me that we were up quite a lot after that. Because you know as fans you want to see what the referee seeing you want to be able to give your opinion as well that's where the problem comes in and I'm not just trying this but if you know my just coming in could hear gym class where the problem comes in because I'm like Who car that mean is mentioned unlike the video refereeing that we just saw a we heard about in Sydney tonight a few minutes ago it's not as definitive when football is not as definitive as did the the bat you know did it cross the line or did it on the line of football's not as so football is down since appreciation of the transgressions down to interpretation and position when he's what we have in many cases what is the point of having a video referee looking at if they were to show it to the fans offend still would agree that be a riot in the stadiums when they're. Well. There and they clearly are going to be teething problems with this clearly and it's clearly going to be difficult for for people to get used to it there are many cases of facts where. Where the thing is welcome but there are also so many cases of interpretation when the controversy doesn't go away and it's not going to keep going to I think that there's a kind of nerd out techno generation who think that just because it's technology is going to solve everything but I mean of said Football is full of Tommy Gray areas and so much is interpret. And even one thing which is fact which is offside that that depends so much and I think as anyone who's ever worked in t.v. Will tell you at the precise moment when the director of images stops the frame. Because you know what is the actual precise moment when the ball is being kicked and you're talking about micro seconds there now clearly the fact that this information isn't being shared with the fans it shows a little bit that the authorities in the game they still mistrust they still don't have total trust in our system for fairly obvious reasons I think I think it's here to stay what I really hope doesn't happen is that I think a lot of people are pushing for is that you give the coaches the chance to review as happens in cricket. Because my big fear then there are there's already I think perhaps more in South American football going in European. Chronic timewasting some of the time wasting that goes on and it's really happening big time with the goalkeeper because if you're sides when he won new in the last 1520 minutes you can do away with 5 minutes just with a goalkeeper going down you know going down to be an injured because the game can't go on while the goalkeeper is down injured and there is being abuse so much I saw a goalkeeper going down feigning crime you know a guy who could get incredible how on earth what absolute rubbish but. If you give the coaches the there's the chance is what process is to a chart that let it go because he's got a lot of work to do. And so most of the. So my fear is once you give these coaches the chance to review situations they're going to do it in the if they haven't done it and it's 5 minutes to go and then we know they are going to review decisions just to break up the rhythm of the guy because football is all about rhythm and anything that breaks out that rhythm is a potential enemy of football I think we should trial this in one particular game in the Premier League just to see if this is right on and it's one between Chelsea I think and united with me and can't just assume there's me. Really want to leave insult with the foreigner and I feel you get the very worst managers for that if you came to. James is Good morning James our morning everyone morning. Just quickly thank you for your thank you to all of the question I just want to push I believe I missed. You Last week we missed us last week. This is what it was all about. Crashing a drawer in the inner c.g. . Ok we know we have. Yes a few weeks ago but before Christmas. Carol I'm probably frightened I didn't interfere when they were talking about the generation and how they failed at all I thought they shelled I think. They were basically very competitive at club level and I let that get in a way so they did it different tables and they got together and they didn't really bonded a group and I just wondered if. You could think of any international managers in your region. Who had brought together successfully very disparate groups of crowd players to go 1st then we say. So I disagree that disproves different. Diverse I think it's it's one for 4 main I think on how Spain have in during their golden period managed to do it. There have been problems I can think of to Brazil squads where that's been a huge problem that those kind of rifts one was 74 when there was a real rift between the players from Rio in a place from San Paolo but perhaps the most interesting one is 90 the 91 world 99 he woke up it's a landmark in the game because it's the 1st one where you get to the global market in footballers is beginning to open up in that global market really then was not entirely restricted but centered on Syria in Italy so the 9090 Brazil World Cup squad was split half and half between players who were based in Brazil and players based abroad that in. Never had before and they didn't used to pick. Didn't play inside Brazil in 86 they brought a couple back but in 1900 suddenly you got a split down the middle and that's one of the reasons for Brazil was absolutely disastrous showing that World Cup only scored 4 goals in 4 games and in general here you know there's an aspect of football that I think gets overlooked so much and that's the human aspect you know you can do your feet for games whatever and treat the players as if they're robots but there's that human aspect you're dealing with human beings. And the man management skills needed which surely that's a big part in the story of. How could someone fail as much as he filed into my lane and was failing for Brazil and then suddenly in different environments with different coaches different player is clearly a man management aspect to it and that man management includes the management of groups individually or man management I wonder what Mina thought listening to Sam Allardyce blaming his keeper for for the Goal that is. Good was no it's quite strange. You know to single out one of your players in that form that's a risky form of of man management but over to mean a you know how Spain because Spain had that rule rift between Real Madrid and Barcelona but that didn't seem to be a problem in the national team when they were winning everything. Well this is the thing it really it really depends on I think the philosophy of a country of what you deem is more important than anything else and I think that the success of the Premier League is and making it you know in exhilaratingly and the most watched of if not always necessarily the best but football but everyone it's almost like club football which is what pays you money has become more important than England and I think that that's also one of the reasons where you felt like when there were problems between Barcelona and Real Madrid you had. And Eco Casy is coming together and you know much to the Shankar of. A Marine you and uniting and trying to stay friends for the sake of the Spanish national team you'll see you know peaking in surgery around or so trading insults at every turn when they are playing for the Spanish national team they put that aside because that Them country matters more than around Madrid and Barcelona and that's just something that was based on how they started training their players it's about putting your country 1st above everything above what your team what your you know what Catalonia represents or what you know because you know what Madrid represents it's about it's a type of loss a few one thing but I think also what made it what makes it so much more difficult for England over you know countries like Spain or is he or Germany is that you know with Spain it was combining say 2 or 3 clubs and the best players from them so yes there was a clear spine and a clear identity that you can then you know give to this side you know this is the way we're going to pick based on the dominating team at the time so if you see Germany it's usually based around what Byron are doing if you see Spain is usually based around what. What Barcelona and Real Madrid are doing if it's really is based around you Venters you know or perhaps Milan is well and to. You know you use the spine and the backbone but with England the Premier League has just become so successful that you've got 5 or 6 teams that all play very good football and possess different players and a lot of foreigners where it's not clear after a while you know where you do that I guess where you know where you pick from and so it was you know having you know alum part having Ferdinand and if there were a little bit scouted and so there was no necessarily clear philosophy I guess you could say amounts to unite is the only club really that was perhaps the most consistent and trying to put that all together when you cared so much more about winning the Champions League with United or you mad so much more about trying to win the league if you were Liverpool and it just seems like the English mentality is always club of country moments and that's the way that I've seen it going and that is it least what it seemed to be fab your Capello when he explains it it was like they just gave up and he didn't understand he it was like he had trainmen so well in these qualifiers in who he described them is this team that would just fantastic and they were and they really always are in the qualifiers in the end and yet when it comes to the final hurdle when there's all this precious surrounding Now it's like everyone just says Ok You know what while we've given up if they give up they can just go bag and it's the Premier League that. James I don't know sure what what everything from what you're saying and from what those players were saying and some of the variance you the part of Ferdinand thing but everything for me points to a failure of the coach be Erikson or be Capello for not do you think grasping this issue yeah I'll explain why based on what you just said the team were fantastic qualifications said. That's jewellery that's juror in the league season they were fantastic jury in the time when they were opposing each other on a weekly basis representing different clubs. But you're in the qualification campaign which is played in a club season that's why they get to that saw a moment when those club hostilities are suspended and I can't produce So this is something missing there and maybe we could because. English players and so on it's our hope it'll be different now with a generation of come up winning the World under seventeen's and winning the World under twenty's and having tournament experience but English players in general is not used to spending their time away from their homes and going very good at it. Now it's like a Russian working really hard up Capello that showed up Capello in 2010 it was what he couldn't do he couldn't seem to be able to keep them motivated. When they're away from their families in a different environment for a prolonged period of time so 2 things against me and suddenly you want. It is that I find that strange that you're having to teacher Gerard now hard and Ferdinand how to be motivated in the wild card it's like these are professional players who are playing Champions League and winning titles Surely when it gets to the stage this is something that Capello no longer needs to do any more this is about you doing it under the pressure and the media that English but you know English football let's be honest all the media is in English write everything that we read now it is in English every country well that look at England because it's the country where you can read everything about it if you know any language you know and there's Ok great a spotlight and a greater amount of criticism and that's one thing that perhaps Eriksson and Capello didn't deal with very well the spotlight was very you know what break when it came to the English national team and and always the players crumbled under the pressure I do think that you should take these players on board when we're talking about a golden generation and try to keep them motivated in the tournament. You know this is most of that motivation is it's not an abstract that motivation comes from your confidence in your ability to win and maybe that was lacking but for me you mean the winning mentality Yes Yeah well not just the winning mentality but a team that they believe that click together and win because that that that carries you through through the difficult times. Think 2010 is such a such an important moment in it because everyone thought they've got everything going for them now they've got the golden generation they've got a fabulous coach in a World Cup in cold weather is what they've always wanted and they were apps terrible and I don't know where else to lay the line and if if these are the underlying issues that Gerard and I am part of Ferdinand are talking about why wasn't the coach getting getting to grips with these issues to Golden Generation Jonathan over and is Sidney from there we go in generation in terms of will stray rather than oh I thought you were talking about the commentary box there must be. Funny how funny how it's always the coaches who get the blame in these situations isn't it you know reflecting on 2010 and you know as well you know never look at the players too much but anyway cricket Well indeed they always does or it's always our fault isn't it was always our fault it's my fault the other day that someone got here in Australia even they put a rubber shot but anyway 348 for 3 Australia sure Marsh has 41. Has 162 and the significance of that score Ebony is that Australia now leads by 2 runs with 7 1st innings wicket still standing and you've got 2 men who are both now schoolteachers in this series it just feels pretty bleak at the moment because you just sense that they're going to settle in them back the week is not we were hoping it might degrade all through. Still turning but not quite 10 is no sort of popping so they settled in for the day but you come in on this discussion quickly before you hand back to Dawson you've won the world come with England but you'd have had days when you were rubbish as well it was that your fault as players or was it the always the coaches for nothing to do you think you have a. Rational thinking create the cultural environment nothing to do that. Is the road so yeah I really enjoy it in fact you very much for those made up on the world who were fairly quick fly around for you guys please and you can join in on this is was caught please could you ask me where she things should go once he leaves the King Power Stadium last. Well I know there are no but after her there they have police right alongside him so why not try and experience should the larger clubs in the Premier League could search or be made to feel to some of the multi-millionaires down to lower leagues to help those survive Matthew Birmingham. But I did anyway we transfer fees and the like he. Does the point they did me a very good point actually that's a good point though to talk about you know because James was Jamie Vardy Lester's going back to Fleetwood where he was signed for 1750000 few years back he had no quite frankly I don't know room isn't this what he really was he's an albatross out of the mail but Troy I wonder do they owe him or dizzy Oh them would you think. It was both ways but those who the most because he's gone on to great things obviously were in the Premier League becoming a multi-millionaire cetera et cetera they've got 1750000 for verily who is a huge amount of money well obviously probably helped develop their squad for several years ahead of those who the most you think Scott I'd say. He won all that with less style so that the always try fit and I was accolades and scoring 11 goals in 11 games consecutively. At Leicester so he I was less than he I was less this coach as you say he became the player it is for a monster. Be who you think is going to school where does he run it's. Less. You know yeah there's room for everything he said out there but you know those who do the most that do the most meaning Well I think hands and everything to be honest so well known but arguably Fleetwood made him the player that Lester wanted to sign Yeah but they also made a 1000 on the play is but he was the one that went. To that point not every brilliant player straight into a Premier League team sometimes you look at him you look at McI l And I know that's what I was going who knows who the most because that's the think you know and I I don't know if someone became the president you know America. Him from getting there or or for the school board that is I get it to him or to his parents for raising him or the school that taught him it's weird right Ok I've got asked this question Tim who is you the most quickly. Oh I hope I would hope that the pair of them can look each other in the eye like like lovers just love if you say Ok I was great for you know this in my younger brother is named for Larry and there is somebody who's . Flaring in Georgia in the United States he says have been listening for about 2 years now Jelani a frivolous new recommended this point because to me he said something about how my night job brother. And I was going to get a good laugh from Doughton and laugh out loud Tim is the best he's well it's not obvious game is amazing we all enjoy his rambling so please don't and try not cutting him off when he rambles last. Point my question for him is he's you very mean it good enough about. He's very good whether he's good enough on the point I'm going to think you're going to have to cut you're not sure he's good enough passing the ball I think I'm going to like it yeah a lot is a great. Big name either. I mean or thanks very much great one for the 1st team thanks very much fancy and support as well to know you callers.