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Where would we have been without it where were we when it was going on well I was always seem younger I was too young and you would see young as well one person listening who wouldn't have wanted to be there even. With the jokes or good performances or the crack as they say you know and it's one person who wouldn't have wanted to be in particular when we know now we look back and saw it and recognize HI Story. Is was is one person who would have wanted to be well now we're talking to somebody who was there was there's both a spectator and was as a performer as well it was initially build Quirin exposition 3 days of peace music and it tracked it all it's just as big as the. And Jimi Hendrix the weather as you'd expect was terrible it was a financial disaster for the organizers but it's become one of the most culturally important events of the 1960 S. Happened 50 years ago this weekend I think and of course it's all about the Woodstock festival Country Joe McDonald performed twice over the 3 days and he's famous for one of its most iconic moments I can't quite share it with you because it caused a repetitive rude epithets he knew anyway I have here to tell me what happened at Woodstock Well what happened is pretty much public information I would gather half a 1000000 people came in that concert it was 3 days long with 35 acts I believe I got there and Thursday and flew into New York City and was drove out to the hotel Holiday Inn and. And then from there on I. I went out. All 3 days to the stage and watched the show and performed a couple of times myself did you get a sense of how important all I'd conic the gig was when you were there not really of course I knew that it was an exceptional gig because you don't see you know that many people an ocean of people all the time anyway and back in those days it was not typical to see a bunch of acts although at that particular time there were I performed at bass and kick a show that was Holland Park to sort of festivals were happening but not in that magnitude. There's a lot of people there well half a 1000000 people that's a lot of people here that know how you so do with. Looks across 7. 1000000 people who don't know scary now I don't scare me I've never been scared of freight in the audience was what a little worried about my performances perhaps but not afraid of the audience and and it was largely because when I got up on stage I had to I had to bend my head back and forth like if you're watching a tennis match you know to see all the people you couldn't just stare. Straight ahead and see everybody had to look to the left look to the right look up the hill look in front of you and then you knew that it was going on a lot of people to what extent were you able to concentrate on the music your performance Oh I have no problem concentrating on my performance I've never been afraid at particularly in open air I enjoy open air and so I started my performances were concerned I was pretty having a lot of fun when I perform solo. I think that's the most famous performance by me of hope doing the. We're not alive are we right no no we're not alive time OK So doing the best year and fixing to Die Rag that was a lot of fun because it was a really nice day and it was like a large picnic people were having a lot of fun but by the time that evening when I went country John to fish the rock and roll band performed I meet with them of course we had been standing in the rain essentially for about 2 hours so we were. Not quite as happy as you would be performing in a sunshiny day but it was an adventure this way I describe it was an incredible adventure human the work you buffoon on the day which won 2 times yet you performed Yes Was it will you. Pulled twice once as a sound one for the band that's correct the solo was not planned that was a impromptu. Do you remember any of the songs you perform to build with the performance. Well. I wasn't quite sure what I would do because they just asked me to fill in some time before Santana got there and I hadn't been performing solo for a long time but I did I think I did some country western songs I just recorded a country western album and I did I believe ring of fire I sang Janice the song I wrote for Janis Joplin and of course Dixie did I read and then a few other. A few other songs set lists are available if you Google him or. As my dad you remember and your emotions on the days well it sounds that it was very impromptu. Well you know when they asked me to fill in some time and I went up there to start performing. Nobody paid any attention to me at all so it really didn't matter everybody was talking and having a good time it was a sunshiny day and so. I was just singing and 1st thing that comes up to my mind but then I walk up stage and I asked my business partner our tour manager who is their production staff if I should i was saving the talk chair and fixing to direct for the evening performance with the band and I asked him if it would be OK if I did it. Then my face and he said nobody's paying any attention to you so it really doesn't make any difference what you do and I thought well OK then I went out there and I did go for the chair and you know what they all stopped talking and looked at me and responded. And I was surprised and also delighted it's nice to be have the audience pay attention to you when you're performing. As well goodness but you stayed for the full 3 days yeah I was there I was there when I was there along with about 20 or 30000 people at the end when Hendrix played the Star-Spangled Banner I was there watching him from the front standing in a kind of muddy ground that was a mind blowing experience of never forget my life I knew he had changed. The what you could do with the electric guitar forever and I certainly did that and I was there when Santana played of course because I opened. For them essentially that day B. And they perform right after me that was wonderful they were maybe the best band there but everybody was good Sly and The Family Stone were great. Let me see what else story member. I had you know I had all access pass so I could. I could be on stage and nobody bothered me that's really a wonderful place to beach watch shows and then I also walked through the I walked through the crowd over to where the hog farm was and talked to some people and saw was going on it was this really fantastic actually you know. Having a great time the acts were great of course and I getting confused from the film sometimes because the film is so great. And. Oh there you are I had no idea would become a historic event that's an absolute and I had no idea they were filming us either so all those things surprise to me that you're talking to me 50 years yeah satirizing and. You know one called the 50 years on it be you was there but if as a performer and a spectator That's correct I went there early deliberately to see bands. Which was the best your experience you fucking put it that way as being a spectator it would still cool being the performer. Well I know they're both different categories and they were both exceptional never to be repeated from me. And also you know who were great I was there when the Who performed and when. When Pete Townsend hit Abbey often with a guitar that was there that was fun to watch. You know it was a huge adventure it was like a 3 day it's hard to describe but you know it's it's really interesting indescribable betted you know you have to. Really need to listen to people like me talk about it if you're interested and then see the movie the movie is incredible the 1st one Director's Cut I don't enjoy so much but it actually and just in the past week because of television I was I was watching a couple things which were about Woodstock like the thing that you're doing now and only it was visual too and I and I'm to this day I can't I cannot believe that that many people came there and that everything worked out so well that the music was perform so well the recordings were recorded really well the camera caught everything it was supposed to catch and the audience behaved in a really nice friendly helpful way and that paramedics and doctors and national guard showed up to help everybody and it was really incredible testament to the youth of America and it's what happened at Woodstock spread all over the whole globe even today Woodstock is against the law in some countries on the planet Earth here where we have you're not going to be saying Woodstock and North Korea are Iran and it changed every way every single way we think about life it's all. Again for granted now colors moral attitudes gender definitions the way we eat or no law. Because of the gee it was a. Mind blowing I'll tell you that. And it was Sidney a political I was paid to do it as well it was an antiwar festival is it fair to say Send me your performances in and see will perform and so on. Well my performance is certainly was about the Vietnam War but the concert itself was not an anti-war. Concert but the reality is that at that particular time we were fighting we in America were fighting the Vietnam War every credibly unpopular war and even if you go in and you can google from the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington D.C. Go to the Web site and you can type in August 15th 617 and you'll come up with about 250 people who were killed in those 3 days in the Vietnam War So we were all . We were all afraid because they hated us they hated hippies they hated homosexuals there were racial riots. As a generation we were really despise and hated but for those 3 days we felt happy and with each other and safe it was incredible. For that for that for itself was just unbelievable and what a relief to have that happen and restore open to America and music you know that gift that America gave to the world with them and a lot of bad things to the world but American music is a circle the planet and affected everything you know the way people think about music it was it really was a rebellion when you think. No one ever really turned the amplifiers up that allowed and done the outrageous things that. We did on the stage in those 3 days that was before and now everybody does it you know it's considered. Commonplace when you save a hazy those who say. They're not hippies the conservatives the government the government aided us. You know. There was segregation in the south the people who didn't want to fight the war were hated. Hippies with long hair were beaten when when we 1st came to England we was really shocked to see you know just common working class people men with long hair and anyone and we interpret it as being a political statement of course it wasn't it was just something that people didn't England at that particular time but for us you know just walking around with long hair and looking like a pea could get you beaten up and it did get you beaten up a lot of times it was a it was almost a civil war in America really really and very similar today I think the times very similar. If we describe then. Woodstock has been very the pinnacle of the you know it was after the Summer of Love I get that but nevertheless. And she stabs materialism if you can put it in that way it did seem to sour before the end of the year. Well bad things happen but the but you know you gotta understand that it didn't really sour some bad things happen people like to say el to mom was the end but it wasn't the end of anything like I said all that music all the ways we dressed and we acted right now ingrained in society all over the planet really you know we came 16917971 when we would travel to Europe everybody in our audience looked like hippies and felt the same way that we did it was it was a success and enormous success in my humble opinion you know the Rolling Stones wanted to monopolize on that and make a movie and they picked a stupid location and and their production was stupid because they didn't understand it would be like like me you know trying to put on the show. Like the bath festival and just not knowing when and then on anything about England just showing up so I don't I don't consider that the end at all and it's obvious that it wasn't the end because all the stuff that we did continued on it was like I think of it really you know somebody it was a great invention everything that was it was really attractive Nobody forced people to to be like we were at Woodstock people wanted to be that way you know they wanted to enjoy themselves to have fun to listen to music. And have and have fun you know and back of a strength to to change the world we changed the world you know and still to happening today like I said. People still put down Woodstock and hippies and walk and rolling you know but it can't be stopped it really cannot be stopped pretty was just a moment was is something that you can capture in the way that you described it the road is to him I want to do you on your song see. Involves itself it's an organic thing if you like isn't. That happened once in them moment but will never happen again I agree with you that's absolutely correct and that's my opinion and Michael Lang's attempts to have a 50th anniversary concert this year completely fell apart I believe for those same reasons you know you can't. Now you're right it happened and we're blessed because it was recorded and it was still know we can enjoy it today you know even you know a lot of things only look at them in their data and. But you know who is he watched that movie and you listen to that music and you go on my God you know. It's so amazingly wonderful still today 50 years later when you think about it that's unbelievable 50 years later but it but it is and and here you are you know and you know and B.B.C. Crowing and talking to me. Lord Country Joe in Berkeley California that's pretty phenomenal I think Little Old Country Joe McDonald. 40 remembering Woodstock 50 years old in 1993 Shane Warne Bowl doggedly the most famous delivery in the history of the ashes the so-called ball of the century on the 1st ball of these Ashes debut worn unleashed a leg break that spun so viciously it Bambi's old England batsman my guessing the B.B.C. Commentary team and even the wicket to keep our heads Cybill what with sporting witness to mark the start of the Ashes series I'm using the B.B.C. Archives to take you back to 993 on the story of arguably the most famous delivery in cricket Shane Warne's ball of the century. It's June $993.00 the 1st test of the ashes between England and Australia at Old Trafford Manchester young Australian spinner Shane Warne is bowling his 1st ball to England's Mike Gatting Shane Warne $102.00 or 3 places he bowls and getting is taken on the pace bowled I while getting still standing there you can't believe it but that must have turned. A very long way we haven't got a view of this but it took it off stump getting Can't believe it that is Shane Warne's 1st delivery in a Test match in England he's comprehensively bowled Mike Gatting. To the astonishment of the batsman the commentators and even his own wicket keeper Warne had made the ball spin several feet from outside gassings leg All right hand stump all the way across to clip the other side of the wicket the Englishman was out to the perfect leg break which just is good if he could actually add a ball like break it drifted just as much just fine enough it just but the file getting has absolutely no idea what has happened to it still doesn't know it's in the replay now it's tossed up and pitches around about outside the leg stump and chaps they call the turned beet will go down for that one spectacular bull made Warne an overnight superstar I was 23 years of age walk out of the hotel that beat the whole team would walk out there were 20 photographers taking pitches a may rise to fame was helped by the fact he couldn't of looked less like a gentleman cricketer his hair was bleached blonde he had a beer belly and he plastered his face in seeing sun cream in Australian terms he was a bit of a bogan as he explained in a B.B.C. Interview as basically someone who has got much culture uncultured unsophisticated laid back Aussie that it takes a call to 3 on the floor and cry. There's warnings on earth and the stereo costs more than the cost that's a bargain think the day that you bought a car but the stereo was worth more than the car and you turned out really loud at the stop sign. The teenage same or new preferred rugby league to cricket but he also discovered a knack for spinning a ball a spinner uses to trick the batsman by moving the ball in different directions varying the bounce and speed warned developed a huge repertoire of deliveries and is credited with reviving the dying tradition. As spinning as you need to create a bit of magic basically has 3 deliveries a legspinner the guys right to left the wrong and the guys are left to rot and strike one and there's different versions of that so my box of tricks I need to have those tools and I need to know what I'm going to ball when I'm going to ball and why my bowling and it's all about patience the problem with spin bowling is that if it's dumb finally the batsman can walk it all over the pitch that's what happened to warn when he was 1st called up for a straight year in 1992 Luckily for him he had the support of Captain Allan Border I remember I got smashed around in my 1st couple Test against India when I got super fit dropped 30 kilos ball for 23 hours a day I got to Sri Lanka and I thought I'm going to do this one IRA for 11 and I members I think it's a bright cause sitting up they gang up trying my bought off I'm still getting special I'm just not good enough and put his arm around me and he said My you do in the hot jobs it'll pay off and I bowled a maiden and the guy was not either and I got 3 wickets in the next either and it was like Michael I just contributed to an Aussie Wayne and I base that with me the whole not drinking with me and sign might This is the start of something special it just back these playas warmest pick to travel to England for the Ashes tour the next year. On the way over move Hughes another hard drinking or C. Veteran told him why the series was so important sitting on the plane with us and why is it so special and he said it's the best I said why he said latte while one is now a travel you sit around in a bus a can get a drink on the boss you can have fun on the bus I said. He said they still rest days in Test cricket I.E. Said 3 was sponsored by big company and he said for a lot of crap I took the crease to great applause and. I knew that I had little cause to fear their young legs. Although England weren't particularly strong they did have the experienced if portly Mike Gatting he had a reputation as a good judge of spin it played in a couple of Test matches overseas and he said he turned the ball a bit with seeing a few videos but nothing of a detail and of course when he turned up and and took the cap off you know you just thinking OK well not seen this guy before you know what do you do want to leverage I might as well be holding the controversy. With his Nobody. Could have been a half Ali I'm sure would have tried to hit it but I mean it actually sort of came out of his hand so well on a reasonable length that it did have some revs on it you could even see and you just saw you know what was it going to do and are still to this day will say that he couldn't have pitched in a better place because he didn't actually hit the off stump it just clipped the biologist took it off up in the air and so you didn't hear the death rattle was only one bell came off and he didn't hear anything more or he was at the other and he just looked and just couldn't believe it this ball in Test cricket in England for Shane Warne. These does Warne himself as always been more to step out what became known as the ball of the century. He says he probably only spun the ball that viciously a few dozen times and that one delivery just happened to move exactly the right way it was the perfect like Brock 1st goal in an Ashes series to do it I look back and say yes it was a fluke but I think it was meant to be and that did change my life we've got a ground as every kid had zinc cream on trying to buy electronics and I would go for a beer off the dice pie to a pub and I'd walk out to be the thing photographers take my picture and I stuff my face with some hot chips always just myself I don't pretend to be something I'm not just straight up sometimes Now we know monologue that I felt I just blurted it out how I felt but yeah it's just everywhere I went and whoever I was hanging with ended up in the paper. For 15 years boom bamboozled batsman from around the world in the way he'd Flomax Mike Gatting but the O.C. Was also really out of trouble he was suspended among other things for using a banned diuretic and insulting and of a player a man the word the boozy night south with Move Hughes the cheating on his wife the explicit text messages to mortals if I didn't love sex that much I probably would have got myself into HOF the trouble I have these are regrets. Of hurting my children yeah I very embarrassed and and hurt that I let them down and as a husband a smile was a very good war had an uncanny ability to concentrate would have the was going on in his private life he became the 1st bowler to reach the milestone of 700 Test wickets and when he did hang up his whites in 2007 there was a sense of the end of an era we were he's holding. Back to the edge of a 1000000000 how many of these morons is Japanese and is the world his son that is and he's waving to what a moment for him what a moment. I'm a it was all about going out there too and it's I like to think that when all of all the people enjoyed watching the ball I was always something was going to happen whether I smack me at the park or are get a wicket and I enjoyed it and I think that was the difference in MOM ON SET cricket was never a job for me it was always a sport a hobby I like to think that I might people smile the former Australian cricketer Shane Warne and the Nats edition of sporting witness from me summer was. OK. I've just watched their board of the century probably about 10 times more and I still can't figure out who did that you know has got the latest 5 Live headlines done his job. On digital B.B.C. Sense it's not strange at the moment Venus is B.B.C. 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Hello this is game on and I'm Adam rasa later in the program you'll hear a report from news beats Stefan Powell who's been to the Richard proudly school for special educational needs which is introduced a gaming class into its official curriculum and there be a little bit of extra content for music lovers out there but 1st the attack on an El Paso Wal-Mart Supercenter by a man who referenced call of duty in some of his comments online has triggered another wave of comments about violence in video games at the time of recording Wal-Mart has ordered the removal of any marketing material which uses violent imagery the unplugging of X. Box and Playstation console's the show violent video games and turning off of any violence depicted on screens in its electronics departments employees were also asked to shut off hunting season videos in the sporting goods department where guns are sold Wal-Mart will still sell the violent video games and hasn't made any changes to its guns I was policy the spokesman Tara House said in a statement we've taken this action out of respect for the incidents of the past week she declined to answer any questions beyond a statement Koch McKinney is the deputy editor at V.G. 247 Hello KIRK Well and now when this sort of story comes up and it is extremely regrettable that people have lost their lives in any circumstance but particularly in an unwarranted attack on a location like a supermarket and then there are comments about video games the start to come out and we've gone so far and as high as the president the United States making comments about the role of possible role of games as he's seen in this and perhaps even the role of games in causing of society what kind of discussion do you have there at V G 247 about an editorial line on that all of the serious Be careful how we cover it I think as an industry we need to be careful about being too defensive of video games because we often cite the positive things about video games and if they can. Impacts and you posit then the saying is probably to reverse their games of the answer blame people because murder has access to guns is to blame people shouldn't people. Were you surprised I mean I was very surprised when I saw an American congressman I think he was saying well they don't get these kinds of attacks in Japan because people don't play violent video games in Japan and it was kind of one as moms we sit there and you go all is anyone and you can have a word with this guy because Japan plays an enormous amount of video games what they don't have is people with guns but there doesn't seem to be a willingness to engage with that idea or is there an ignorance about exactly how widespread video games are a finger is an ignorance I don't know whether it's cruise from because video games don't stop talking about how they're the biggest most financially successful medium out there and that the movies all the time I mean lots of things so I don't know how anyone could not see that while you're the father of young children Kirchen they're going to grow up in a world where they're going to play games I think you know my daughter is growing up in a world where she plays games because I've got the console's she wants to pry them she's upstairs now I think doing something on Sims or perhaps city skylines Are you concerned and will you be looking at age ratings on kinds and talking about what you children will be playing or are playing with them when that moment comes Yeah definitely I mean it's a parent's responsibility anyway to check out what media your children are enjoy and you wouldn't let a child watch Friday the 13th just as you wouldn't shouldn't that child play Grand Theft Auto because it's a teammate game and has cancer that's not suitable for children parents need to be more educated with what video games are OK in the finale if the games nowadays isn't like it was back in the day when Sonic was a tutti sprite went across the screen Well this is one of those questions because would you alluded to we know there immersive we know the storylines can have an impact on people. So you keep referencing Spec Ops the line when I talk about a storyline that made me sit and think about why I've been doing inside a video game it's a it's a very dynamic it's very fluid situation to have you heard from experts anything that has convinced you one way or the other or would do you just want to hear more coming out from psychologists and educationists about the role of videogames and the impact that they can have all might be having or may not be having Well this is the thing is psychology experts that's why when what light say one way or the other . Where only just finding out now like what impacts games can have an on an addictive level you know we've got the gaming disorder stuff in the news and then there's the gamble inside of it so I think because games are in their infancy I mean they've been around for decades we're still learning like how the because it's still a relatively young medium. I'm not quite sure of parallels to T.V. And film helpful because the interactive nature of games and possibly that's why people are more concerned about it rightly or wrongly we will of course continue to watch and white Well let's move on to a game which unfortunately fortunately McConnell run the world is exploits violence on quite an industrial scale Stein Youngblood is yet another outing from machine guns and the reboot of the classic unlooked on my console can in my library I've got New Colossus old plant and now young blood so monstrous and it will fans find it never stops it's it's kind of a machine they've gone different this time we're not steering B.J. Blasket it's around we're now controlling his children it's a kind of a Coke I'm built in from the ground up was co-op what we 1st thought of I was a get sick have a go because I really enjoyed the previous games and this one's a collaboration between Michigan's arcade games games and the developers of Dishonored and sims like prey and they're like. Favorite song of experiences but I don't think the collaboration works quite as intended here what's gone wrong in your opinion well OK design levels that can be approached from different directions so it's a cult game show the levels encourage you and your friend like surf one that is from the front door and one comes through the roof that's what it feels like you should be doing but then the actual shoo in of the game encourages you to both attack targets at the same time if you come in from different angles you can't really do that because the health of the enemies is quite high we struggle Satan down so low so it feels like the kind of to design a force Unser the shooter so nobody's got the upper hand or maybe Machine Games have got the upper hand a bit too much and it's keeping to its classic roots while trying to impose elements of what are kind of doing is that is that we're saying Yeah I think so and like when you do attack from 2 directions as soon as you start taking down it is there the way the game spawns enemies it is well is it spawns a game where you can see so that's usually behind you which means any tactics that you have going to just go straight out the window since you're in a building I didn't notice that actually I was trying to silo hits because I'm deeply antisocial and play these things that foolish o'clock in the morning when nobody is up and about and it's let me rephrase this if I was designing a game and a live go to heaven help us survive it get to and I said Alright I need co-op but I'm going to allow people to swallow it and then I only had to drive around the of a player character I think I would find myself a retuning the critical encounters with the bosses so that you could solo them I'm not getting the sense here that you they've done that the why I've played is completely the wrong way to play and that's trying to play on my own I mean did you try any of the levels solo in what was your experience Yeah I played most of it in cart with Alex Danson one of us and it was much better co-op when other players on my own were. I know is that sometimes they are even if you call them see they just refuse. And then they die constantly as well and your insulin revive them when you have a party to say let's that shoot this big thank you but. Whereas when you were there was no like commandment your innocence tell them what to do so we told the gangs the social and here I continue to pry them in every anti social why I don't really do rights and why conscious of my life seems to mitigate against it I'm not are kind of hard core game does this and you are able of course to tell me you have to turn up and play your is that it's what's happening here is is this people trying something new because that's what I've done is know they did it with with the old blood they're doing it now with young blood they're trying something new should that be encouraged Yeah I think it's always good develops try something new and this is like rather than a full sequel it's more of a spin off so it's a cheaper way to experiment you know as they're working on the grounds that they're Colossus made that allows them to develop in the show for less money and they're charging less for as well which is I think this is the chance to experiment really in between the big games this is the we seen a beast of division it with a far cry series who seem primal with scene was the most recent one not blood dragon that was the other one was no new doll New Dawn year with the changing of the color palette changing the way the air has behaved and trying out the setting in different kinds of ways you count just 2 I suspect as a games developer you can't just simply build something once and then throw it out there the long tile really is is very important now isn't it yeah it is and it's quite demoralizing to see the community rail against developers when they reuse assets not something because why can't you. If they're making a different game and you've made a bit why do you need to make a NEW been you know they've just been frugal I didn't join what they did in prominent chicas they turned their map and. Took in so flipped it around and gave it a new kind of feeling and it's really interesting what with the language systems in the do you get the feeling it's OK The big studios out there people like with this is from Bethesda isn't it people are Bethesda be softer are willing to take more chances but they realize they can't stick to simply to one or 2 I pace that they have to take it on in new directions and try out new things yeah I think so and with what we're seeing recently with the says is that an experiment a lot with more play because traditionally the 1st games are all single player they were one of the last ones hanging on to like big single player experiences I think they'll continue those seeing fallout player Trager player mode looks like Arcanes next Dame's going to play a machine games just put more play a game you know so it feels like they're trying to tap into those service games that the games people play play with their friends so Kirk Nomen sky with a new mascot to see has been with us for years now they're about to release yet another huge patch with a patch really is where you want to call it that game has strange wildly since the thing we saw along and they have continued to explore and they peer to the people there hello games won back people who were critical of the initial game. That is a rare case though isn't it because that was an independent studio working on the beaches of simony and and then so widening out from there but is that is that a model that could be sustainable do you think you know establish something admit that you have problems keep working and to keep your Hitty for a very long time it was sustainable for other games because the initial buzz around them and sky and show that sold millions of copies but a lot of developers don't have that luxury so I don't know if it's sustainable for everyone is certainly what's in that case and the game has improved massively since it launched its kind of a all modes is more play coming to soon this is crazy. From a lack of P.R. Perspective all they did was just stop token so long time and just get on with making the game and again another know if that's the type that could work for everyone because every game is different and every audience is different. You know as I should tend to shown out and once again I'm not quite sure what you have to use in the trap Splash will keep trying I think you've got to say it's name in the very light sense and if you call him he will come I'll bear that in mind thank you very much for that tip well I did do an interview the very recent quite calm with and dress all your force from Machine Games his history to type tells me he makes video games neat strawberry jam he's one of those things right thing obviously so I sat down with him and we had a chat about being a games Michael in Sweden and about working on young blood. That's so much worse than I thought thank you notes for half the Nazis out of Paris just like Daddy defat calm. No phone calls letters he just touched. The agency a formal but he left the country under a false identity about rates of. What hell is the. Whole thing last heard Paris catacombs that's your lead he's in that studio if we say something they're going to do yes well I guess it's just tough to understand. Let me tell you some. It's do or die just like Dad told us I. Have been to the Sweden going to a company going out there again this year that saw the end of the stuff happening in around Mt you go up stuff around still comforts me in trees going on in the Swedish knowledge economy is enough Yeah I don't know why I talk to spoken to a lot of people about why this is happening I would guess that I don't have a date at the back this up but I would guess that we actually have that we produced like the most games per capita as a nation than of the other nation in the world some people. Think it might be because we in the early 1000 is we had a good deal through the state where you could get a computer really cheap through your door maybe it was through your job something that I don't really remember I was a kid but I got one of those computers very cheaply so there was a way for a lot of the Swedish population to early have this sort of technology and a lot of people started playing around with programming or art or whatever so maybe that's one reason another reason might be that we as a nation I think you have always tried to be modern whatever that means in any decade you know we try to be modern We try to be progress when we we are early adopters when it comes to technology so maybe that has also played into it so when you come to a family with a story history as we've we need to use that word how do you refresh it how do you bear in mind its heritage how do you do all of those things and not lose the players because players for the franchise like that think they know what they want . When it comes to the heritage of wolf and Stein we are big fans of wolf Stein I still remember when I was a little kid playing Wolf's a 3 D. Back in 1902 I don't even know what how big the effect that game is had on me and my career but I think it's it's meant a lot you know so when it comes to the heritage we want to make will from a style we love wolf style We're not trying to get away from doing all the stuff we are HUGE will 1st and fans that's why we initially peach to do and you will feel stuck in game so we're not too worried about losing the heritage because it will sign as well who want to make but with young blood we felt like it was time for us to play a little bit about with the format of the genre and try some new things as opposed to new things for us to do like co-op we haven't done co-op before we wanted to play around with opening up the virus a bit more me having a more open and level structure and that's certainly something that when it came to the open and the nature of young blood that was only possible because of our partnership with our sister studio or Kane but you kept with the baskets so long in not necessarily the menu so you went with with children so there's that kind of passing the torch on because that he's been through an enormous amount I mean beheaded to one point I think you name one of the games if you kept on upping the ante so I made sense to step aside from him well in a way like Star Wars is this saga off the Skywalker family I think this is the saw go off the blast which family people love B.J. And we still love B.J. But going into the 8 is he's kind of old and doing a co-op game it fit perfectly to use between daughters for this game so what it all came bring to the party and if you guys wanted to explore different kind of set spices and different kind of storytelling they are famous for elaborated level design they are famous for dishonored for the way you can work around a problem or approach problem in different ways I'm not really familiar with movements. Fine approaching problem in why is that don't involve enormous amounts of firepower it's still about firepower killing artists with way too powerful guns is still the beating heart of what will fill a sinus but the partnership will arcane is a full partnership they worked on a number of different areas like they've done a hospital it on a new way but the most important contribution they made I think is to the level to sign because I don't think we knew really how to pull that sort of open and level the sign off day or experts at it so they kind of brought that dishonored style open ended level design into into young blood and I think that you know young blood isn't a game that we at Machine Games could have built is not a game or king could have built it's only possible because of us kind of mixing our D.N.A. Into young blood so our hope was studied would be like. The best of or Keynes level to sign with the best of our gum play in combat but some people have looked at INSEAD one of the problems is the fact that you have to be of a certain level to get around certain bosses which forces you into side missions and racking up the points that why so there has to have been a tradeoff between the 2 approaches there has been an accommodation as well as it being synergistic There is also degree of accommodation in that we have a couple places in the game where you have enemies that are initially too powerful to attack now but the alternative to that would just have a gate that opens once you've reached a later stage in the game so that's that's basically what that is that's just a locked gate you know so that's that's like Hoffa percent of the game the rest of the game is played in your order play the way you want that's what we try to achieve is a problem is an open world so very well bunt if you try and send an underpowered character up against an overpowered boss you have to be able to sight see if you've got stroke mode you can beat this whatever level you are but then that's kind of maybe doesn't encourage people to go through the full gameplay experience so you gain there's a balance isn't a between wanting people to see everything you've made and allowing them to do it their own way yeah I mean we certainly have. Some levels in the game that we think it is probably better if you do a bit later you can try it and it's probably going to be a bit too difficult but we're also going to communicate that to you before you go that maybe should wait a few levels before you try this piece of content so I don't think that's a sort of conflict between different ideas I think I think it's it's a good way of handling the open ended type of level design that we have in junk blood for almost all of the content we have in the game the enemy is adapt to your level so if you go to a sort of block of Paris early on in the game you're going to meet different animus if you go there later you're going to get more dangerous. Versions of the same enemy types but also new enemy types because now you are more powerful so the Narcisse will push harder enemies that you're basically So it's not it's not a it's not a static world away it kind of changes with the you as you of all unless you beget more and more dangerous the world will also get more and more dangerous it's flexible it's adaptive and is reactive Exactly yeah. You probably have signs but I've been playing a lot of the division type and that kind as. It is yes they're just down the road on their you know their mountain where they got they are in my mind so yeah and I do some pretty much massive business in the town that I since time and I own 2 is really shifting things with them I do like the sense of Washington. And then when you are coming to you are going to think let's go with some white people now is that all the reason why it's in Paris when we start out a new product it's always kind of location driven it's it's it's hard for chemists or driven but also look Asian driven so the locations which use can also define the type of story we tell so when we start a new product in the mail goes out to everyone working at machine gives us the OK come up with the suggestions for really cool places for B.J. To go this time around and one of the places that we talked about before is Paris and we even talked about the catacombs in Paris which is now the headquarters for the resistance there in John blood and now that we want to try this more open ended nature where we have these blocks off the book these blocks of city blocks that you can explore we realize that OK instead of getting the player to all these different places in the world we're going to try to focus on one city and try to make something really cool there. News on while the web.