I 4 and under either and. This is b.b.c. 5 I am with the b.b.c. News on 5 live here Stuart Clarkson Thank you Rod Good morning the new common speaker says the House will change for the better with him in the chair then see how it was elated by his fellow M.P.'s last night after 9 years as a deputy who places John Bercow as the person responsible for keeping order during debates Alister Bradley is the council leader in Charlie So Lindsay's Labor constituency is a very straight talking like us tree and very cold war and lots of different people company details there it is it tries to deal with problems with a bit of humor and therefore can appeal to all people of different levels that's what we see a local here and surely you know you talk to everybody and engages everybody and hopefully do the same thing in the government's coming under pressure to publish a report on alleged Russian interference in u.k. Democracy before next month's election it was completed by Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee March but Downing Street has yet to approve its release the former senior diplomat Lord Ricketts says a claim that number 10 needs more time to prepare its response is a red herring the i.o.c. Is the only select committee of Parliament which requires the government's agreement to publish its report so when ministers make the point that they need time to respond that misses the point that what is being asked here is publication of the report the response can take its time and that there is a clear public interest in the national security implications of Russia's at the serial conduct ministers say the report will be published in due course in line with procedures for sensitive information social media advertising Labor would push up taxes if it wins the election has been removed by Facebook the company says the Fair Tax Campaign ad broke its rules on political advertising labor is yet to publish its tax plans to men in their twenty's or been seriously injured in a shooting in West Yorkshire It happened in Liversedge near Dewsbury last night police say they believe the suspects drove away. A former u.s. Ambassador to Ukraine has told the inquiry she felt threatened by doll Trump Congress is looking into claims the president tried to pressure Kiev into investigating a political rival which he denies Marie Evanovich says she was told to tweet praise of Mr Trump to save her job he'd been giving his reaction to her testimony I really don't know or but if you look at the transcript the president of Ukraine was not a fan of hers is there I mean he did not exactly say. I'm sure she's a very fine woman I just don't know much about her and the authorities in Berlin have banned performers from wearing u.s. Army uniforms at Checkpoint Charlie they say actors at the iconic cold war crossing between East and West Germany exploit tourists by demanding money for photos sport now almost all of the cricket is saying winning is the Zealand in the 3020 match and I'm out for this watching when the 1st open using an 8 without loss of memory I want to go to with Already he's on 8 and the score as I say is now going without loss of the 1st over 3 changes in the legs but in my pockets and an exciting atomic bombs are making their debuts rushing Jordan faster rested with Tom Curran also back from the scene and black takeaway is enough for doubt Mitchell said I want to see him bold he's in and knowing without loss we can get rid of the sport from Katie Smith West Bromwich Albion as he points clear at the top of the championship off to easing pass take city to nil away I mean Stoke stay bottom of the table in their 1st game since boss Nathan Jones was fired can take a manager Roy de Lapp says the loss has put a spotlight on how serious problems are at the club Meanwhile press mills then say they're dropping their formal complaint against Stoke it was for an alleged illegal approach for them manager Alex Neil Everton have revealed surgery to repair his fractured ankle has gone extremely well and he's expected to make a full recovery the midfielder suffered the injury during Sunday's game with Tottenham was confirmed Spurs have appealed against some humans red cards his tackle is that unsuccessful in the appeal some will miss Premier League matches against Sheffield United West Ham and born. Paul Hackett Watson has been sacked as he bent his head chips a currently 10th in the Scottish Premiership with just 9 points and his status Champion of Champions event it's a battle back to be sure the 65 and the place in the semi final this is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live on digital b.b.c. Ses. The weather. Least in Scotland through the night setting heavy at times much for the rest getting some showers but try and clear it insulates times as well choose to will see showers for much of the country there is seeing the heaviest of the downpours chillier in the north and temperatures generally across the country between 8 and 11 degrees. B.c. Sounds like. Some point you've got to give a young player . 2 contrasting views of government on Monday as a House of Commons came together a relatively rare show of unity to welcome John barrackers successor speaker. By contrast the House of Representatives. Remains at loggerheads with the White House which again refused to allow a witness to appear Jeffrey Eisenberg's America's top national security lawyer who was charged with clearing up after the president's now infamous call with President Selenski of you. Crain in July Meanwhile the committee started releasing details of his or 2 private testimony ahead of the impeachment inquiry his 1st public hearings which could start the soonest next to. The us former ambassador to Ukraine Marie you have an of it told the impeachment inquiry into a President chump that she felt threatened by comments the president made to his Ukrainian counterpart Vladimir Zelinsky according to published White House transcript of The Call it took place in July Mr Trump described as a bastard or as bad news and said that quote she's good to go through some things about so you have out of it she was summarily recalled in May as u.s. Ambassador to Ukraine spoke to the committee in a Tobar and her testimony has just been released in a further development the lawyer for the man responsible for ensuring the transcript of the call is triggered the investigation would be placed in a secret computer vault shown Eisenberg failed to appear before the House Judiciary subcommittee saying he had been directed to defy the subpoena on White House orders or Washington Correspondent Tom a Calvary is with us hello. Hello Well it Ambassador you know you have out of it so I think we're entitled to still refactor a such a it's quite quite outspoken then at least in private for this committee know her remarks of course are all over the place. That's right she spoke behind closed doors and now we have a testimony and we see what she was describing at that moment and it's quite dramatic as you as you describe she said at some point that she felt threatened by the president's words she was never sure what would happen and it's never been clarified but still the fact that she felt in this moment that she was being threatened that's quite different from what the normal life of a u.s. Diplomat is and it shows how controversy all this issues become and it also shows in part why this has been the why the entire impeachment inquiry has been speeded up in the way that it has and meanwhile President Trump has been out in public he's been talking about the strong stock market and he's storming ahead and also some of the early polls in these battleground states where this is where the election will be decided in 2020 places like Pennsylvania and Michigan President Trump is either ahead or only slightly behind his Democratic rivals So despite all the controversy and the revelations from the former u.s. Ambassador present time could still win another term Here's his approval rating is showing some signs of terms should it has definitely gone down it hasn't reached the lowest point in his administration but it's dipped in recent weeks and there's no doubt that the impeachment choir has had an effect on the way people see him but the election is kind of a strange thing in the United States it's about there's about 6 different states where you know action will be determined because of the number of electoral votes in those states and those states these are areas where President Trump won last time he still got a lot of support there the people in these areas are not as concerned about these diplomatic rouse that people have been focusing on in Washington. He's going to have to Turkey tonight what's he doing there. He's gone off to another rally he's surrounded by his supporters thousands of people are cheering for him and he's also campaigning for the Republican governor there's going to be an election and President Trump is there speaking on his behalf and you've seen on some of the images that are shown from the rally people are wearing these t. Shirts that say you know telling people to look at the transcript this is the position that President Trump has said regarding his conversation with the Ukrainian leader Mr Trump has said that the conversation that he had to Ukrainian leader was perfect and that everything was in order and he's defended his conversation saying that there's no reason people should have any doubt about what he's done as president and his supporters are certainly echoing his views of this of course of the the transcript that the White House released of those cold but with some more q. In a minute with with some gobs which is now being questioned as to its total veracity but but they're saying read the transcript by by which they mean read what's already in public view. That's right the supporters of President Trump say that the president was saying the things that a president needs to say and they don't have any issues with it but the transcript itself it's become also controversy over what was in the transcript or what were these like you say these ellipse his or these dot dot dot there are parts that didn't appear and are never have never been put before the public so there's some questions about what the president what President Thomas referring to and his critics say that he had been abusing his power and that he was speaking to the Ukrainian president the Ukrainian leader in a way that would further president terms own political goals and that this was an abuse of his position. No surprise as opposed to people have been watching the that Mr Eisenberg failed to show up before the subcommittee on Monday because he's under obviously tight control of the White House where he works. Exactly this is been a pattern that many of the officials who have been called to testify have refused to testify and there's some questions about what the replications are going to be theoretically the members of Congress could trigger a Justice Department investigation of these individuals for not coming to testify and and theoretically these people who have not testified could be put in jail but Congress hasn't moved in that direction they are plenty busy with people who are testifying and they're getting ready for their open sessions that will happen very soon. Washington Nationals baseball team made a visit to the right. As a reward for winning the World Series. That's right there was a big party on the South Lawn and the team members were there and the present was celebrating along with the team the president did say at one point that it was the biggest crowd ever on the South Lawn and if you run the numbers it wasn't quite that there was about 5000 people at the party but in that half hour I guess in 2000 people when it was people were having fun but there was a party there on the South Lawn about in 2008 when there was about 13000 so fitting that aside the people seemed to enjoy themselves the usual business with sports teams where where not everybody felt that they could come to the White House some some people stayed away or at least one person sitting with exactly one of the star players said that he couldn't in good conscience go to the event he said that he has found the president's rhetoric to be so divisive that he just simply couldn't come to the party so he you know was taking a principled stance against the president by not showing up. And then in a past event like this the president surprised everybody by by showing the players with mountains of fast food to do that this time they were all wondering is he going to serve hamburgers that was definitely the the star attraction of the of the sports event party before and there was no there were no reports of hamburgers today and the focus was very much on the championship and also just the sort of festive air with the music and the present celebrating and he certainly love sports and the people who were there certainly enjoyed being with him and those who didn't want to be there they made their principled stance and stayed away and will hurry for Washington celebrating his 1st World Series championship thank you very much thank you very much. The United Nations had been Farmall in farm that the United States is withdrawing from the Paris climate agreement no great surprise president made it clear he was going to do this but he had to wait it's not going to take one year to complete the withdrawal process with us is under light form a climate official in the State Department who worked on the Paris agreement from the us sad that is no the Stengel a senior fellow at the World Resources Institute Hello Mr Light clue Hello Well you must be very disappointed today well yes I am but I didn't negotiate d. Person Greenman just for the United States a negotiator for the world so I'm very happy that the world still is on target to meet its pledges and to the burrs agreement. But what Empacher does it make that the United States says has pulled this it will far Malee withdraw from the process Well it's certainly not good. And the United States pulling out because the United States is quite a big emitter of greenhouse gases it's not good that the United States is pulling out but at the same time we've got lots of states and cities and others who are cooling forward to try to achieve some kind of the targets under the earth agreement there was a regionally would forego their. They Environmental Protection Agency under Mr Trump recently moved to to loosen restrictions on coal fired power plants putting broke bad stuff light heavy metals. Into the water from the cooling system. Is becoming a case of the federal government versus the rest. It is actually the federal government is trying to reduce all of its commitments to try to do something. To reduce its emissions and the what we're seeing now is states and cities are trying to step up treasuries are missing. How does for example California I mean those are the kind of open warfare now between Governor Newsome of California on the president who is California actually performing and is it going to be frustrated in some way by the stance that the White House and they had ministration have been taking sure so California and other states are trying to move forward and. In the trip administrations trying to block them I don't actually understand why these why why why why the u.s. Is trying to do this actually it you don't understand it I'm not going to attempt to understand it either but. If and I suppose this is a bit of a bit of a stretch at the moment but if the government changed times in 2021. How much what would be involved in getting the United States back to where it is at the moment under terms of the Paris agreement. So on one hand it's very easy so getting back in the person is just takes a call from the new president in let's say January 2021 saying they want to get back in but they also have to put forward a new target for 2030 under the agreement and that would be the harder her report. And there have been reports that it was a report earlier this year wasn't there about emissions in the United States generally how is the United States doing on emissions. So our emissions have been going down. But not enough and I think every country needs to put forward some kind of new target to the person Grima to achieve the overall temperature targets that are if you raise it in the agreement do you have a different target in mind I mean where if you were advising someone coming back into this process you know in a position of power what would you be in suggesting you know so if I were to do that then I would sort of say that by 2030 we should get a 40 percent reduction permissions Blewitt 2005 level by 2040 and then we should aim for net 0 emissions by 21st which is the target of the British government set itself so net 0 by 2050 Yeah well. That would be the base actually one years from now thank you very much Mr Light for talking to us Ok bye thanks a lot. Well let's take our 1st visit of the night to the beautiful Saxton Orval in Nelson New Zealand where we meet test specials had a month for Hello Adam hello wrote a very good even as you say it's beautiful it really is this is one of the most picturesque around something very few have the fortune to watch anywhere in the world you've got the snow capped mountains on one side the Richmond ranges on the other a magnificent vista from where we are actually focusing for an operation center here where the far office behind us it says it's a slightly. Last minute put together sort of place not a regular venue necessary for all New Zealand games police have packed out wonderful atmosphere $25.00 degrees very fortune to be here and in the rush is taking a very very important and easy to make a very good start they reach to 40 without loss but the Martin cups with bringing the cold bites home car and running back getting a we could see the Pats Brown score now is a 42 for one in the 5th those 1st couple out of a 33 men roast of their own 6 he's been joined by cycle to someone about another week it goes another week it fail and Tom Curran having taken that great catch has now taken away kit so England really are fighting back ups for start Roger 4242 now in the 5th over the latest months ago. Adam thank you very much back with Adam very soon and let's turn to another environmental question no this one in Canada because a major investigation of Canada has found that the amount of lead in the water supply of many Canadian cities exceed safe levels and some areas even show lead levels higher than in Flint Michigan which is the poster child for lead in the water and of course became critically endangered and the water crisis of 2015 it was a year long investigation conducted by $120.00 journalists from 10 media outlets and 9 universities in partnership with Canada's Institute for Investigative Journalism Patty Sontag joins us know she's the director of that institute at Concordia University. Hello hi Rob how are you. This is this enormously worrying for Canadians you would think because they must have thought well you know Flint and all that is is well south of the border everything's fine here yeah it was it was a big change for all of us as we were going through the investigation all the students and reporters to check it changed the way we think about our drinking water and what kind of parts you know of lead concentration and water did you discover. Well we found very elevated levels of lead in older places in the back and in the municipal test results from all across the country. We don't really have open governance here when when a government worker checks a house and finds something they might the municipal or provincial government may tell the people in the house but they won't tell the people in the neighborhood and then the data isn't available so we found levels as high as $500.00 parts per 1000000000 and you know the safe level in Canada is 5 if you find this in the u.k. The assumption would be that it was in lead pipe old lead pipe leading to the house so we got lots of old housing stock in the u.k. And people are told about this they they have to take it up but it's usually at their expense to what them what happens in in the case of a Canadian household or. Well it's very much like the u.k. So it's left up to the oh house owners expense and you know study after study has shown that lower income people often can't dig up the pipe I mean it's 13000 dollars or something. And so this is often a contaminant that effects disadvantaged people. And is this coming to me more and more on the question of where it's from I mean is it coming from Flint It was it was coming from a water supply would never should have been coming from but it in in the Canadian case is a coming from all piping in the municipal water supply in other words not leading from the water me into the house but actually the water main itself Ok so that's that's kind of a misconception So there is a problem in Canada the problem is that you know all water makes metal rust right and something metal eventually developed dissolves into the water and in Canada we don't have general regulation that tells you his apologies Ok so you must address the corrosion into the water and in the United States they do they have a very strong e.p.a. Regulation and saw in consequence in Flint the very big problem was a lack of you know after they switch the water supply they didn't put the substances into the water it's called orzo phosphate to stop the pipes from shutting the metal into the water and so if you had a pipe in old lead pipe in your house you know after that switch of water then it just started flaking off lead like crazy now. In Canada it turned out that we have in some cities a similar problem. My costs are people have been putting or not putting out the tabs into the water Yes So it's it's a substance or so phosphate So it's found in food it's the same kind of phosphate like in jams and jellies. Say So how did you start this what was the spark for this investigation. Well my colleague at The Toronto Star Rob crip had proposed that we look at drinking water you know we had the 9 universities and so we thought Ok Well we'll look at the drinking pipes part 1st and I thought it would be a very quick project maybe a month or 2 and it just it's not bald I have to say how many samples did the experimenters and the and all the students and people from the universities end up taking all the students went door to door across the country and we we flew them to places sometimes and they ended up taking $358.00 samples and our data set that we're looking at is 260 samples over those 358. So from when you present this information as you have what's the response been from Unit municipalities are you getting a uniform response across the board. No not at all. So here in Montreal there's been a massive change where the Montreal the the mare has promised to invest hundreds of millions more into replacing the pipes and committed to open data to helping people to place their pipes you know really a series of steps that are internationally recognized as good leverage duction programs in other municipalities where nobody thinks Ok this is an old city that would have old pipes. There's been a less enthusiastic response. What's the public response been you'd think the public would be mildly panicked by something like this especially if you've got young children them. Well I've been watching quite closely and I don't think there is I haven't seen evidence of panic I have seen that people are concerned and they've been asking what is the best thing to do and the experts have been telling us that if you get a lead to removing filter for your water that's the best solution and it's far better than bottled water a bucket of water of course and that led removing filter you can just put that in in the big water system as it comes into the WHO's Oh you can do all kinds of things you can put it in you know under the sink over the sink in your pitch or however you like it. But just do it goodness did it change your behavior. Yeah I ended up buying one of them and it's really made me sink about water the same way I think about food like you would never why food that you you were pretty sure that that it was safe and now I tend to look at water in the same way which is a very big change as a Canadian. And have you had any any response from federal government not that I know of as yet but it's day one today what well to get everything at the very beginning of the. Good do you plan to go on testing. In the coming months older looking at smaller communities we are now partnered with University of Connecticut Montreal which is a very famous. French language journalism school and also the 1st Nations University of Canada and so our consortium grows and were reaching out to residents again. Well Patty sounds like thanks for talking to us it would seem here that you've you've opened some real doors and and created a lot of possibilities for future action on the part of government and you know us apart so thank you very much for taking the time to talk to us thanks so much thank you bye bye. That is the director of the Institute for Investigative Journalism Cardia university it's just up to half past 1 on digital b.b.c. Sounds our speaker. Is b.b.c. Radio 5 Live and here with the b.b.c. News Stuart Clarkson M.P.'s have chosen said Lindsay Hoyle as the new speaker of the House of Commons who replaces John Bercow who stepped down after a decade Lindsay told colleagues he'll change the house for the better and be a transparent speaker Downing Street is coming under pressure to publish a report into Russian interference in u.k. Politics before the election next month the document was completed by Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee in March the since been redacted ready for publication but number 10 has yet to approve its release Turkey says it's captured the sister of the former Islamic state group leader Abu Bakar our Baghdadi who died joining us operation last month as Mia as while it was detained during a raid in northern Syria attributes compared to the Irish broke yesterday Byrne has died aged $85.00 after a long illness he hosted a t.v. Chat show in a long running radio show for r.c.a. Islands president Michael d. Higgins has described him as a man of great charisma sport now let's take it to Nelson New Zealand to England playing in their 3020 match and a male. 61 for 2 were in the 7th over the dangerous clincher Grant Holmes has crossed a couple of boundaries but England have been fighting back up his even made an excellent start bringing catch by Tom Curran running backs or the end of Martin got forgot to offer a powerful 33 Pat Brown the ball or 2 it was benign so far good effort from the oars to ship and then Current how to Monroe called for 6 we're still waiting for languages legspinner Parkins not his 1st ball in international cricket he's making his debut today along with the Somerset opener Tom Banse And so we're in the 7th because even with a group of prime time on 12 Seifert on 6 are 61 for 2 we've now got the rest of the sport with Katie Smith and West Bromwich Albion. 2 points clear at the top of the championship. 2 nil goals from Philips and how Robson can a make them the full steam to go top in this round of fixes Meanwhile it was grim viewing to start fans in their 1st game since boss Nathan Jones was sacked as they were 11th loss of the season can take a manager Roy de Laps as they can underestimate the warring position they are in there's been a serious situation for Not a while now but I'm not sure the players and everybody realize how serious the situation is you know that tonight tonight Ty Law is impossible and it will put a team out there that we thought was the strongest 11. You know we've got to take a large portion of the blame where it wrong turn Meanwhile press north then say they're dropping their formal complaint against Stoke it was for an alleged illegal approach for them manager Alex nail pull hacking bottom has been sacked as have been head coach following their 52 loss to Celtic in the Scottish League Cup semifinal Hibs are currently 10th in the Scottish Premiership ever since a Andre Gomez's surgery to repair his fractured ankle has gone extremely well and he's expected to make full recovery Coventry defended David Bruce broke his leg against Manchester United in 1996 he still 5 lives that you need mental strength as you go through rehab it's the short term ones it's going well albeit walking when I did in. 2 months old they let me look at joint training straight what style it's I was achievable goals which will really help his mindset as opposed to going well you'll be about pint you know if I've been extra Well Graham has suffered the horror injury following his Hakko from Tottenham song humen has been confirmed Spurs have appealed against his red card which was initially yellow before v.a.r. Upgraded it elsewhere Frank Lampard says he's been pleasantly surprised by May's amount this season and has been proven right by showing faith in the youngster The 20 year old he came through Chelsea's academy has been a key player already this campaign I believe in him he has to keep working to improve all the time he shunned physically in the game against. The 3 midfielders who were outstanding because it. What right had to put into the game to stop have in control of it and he did it so you think of my son as an attack in midfield. They will get even better Chelsea Welcome back to that Champions League match against i.x. This evening with commentary for you here on 5 live in Liverpool take on in sneak in a row but some battled back to be sure $65.00 place in the semifinals of the Champion of Champions event is now from p.c. Sport. Well this is new. Every. Week. From. Everything. This is b.b.c. Radio 5. The b.b.c. Sounds. Right. To be the new speaker of the House of Commons succeeding John Barracora already deputy speaker he was elected by 325 nearest rival Chris Bryant 213 in the 4th and final round of voting. For Charlie pledged to be a neutral and transparent speaker paid tribute to his daughter Natalie who died and 2017 and he told M.P.'s of his plans for the house by what Doc said. I hope this will be a great respect not just in New York but across the world. We've got to make sure the. Respect to expect everyone who works in here will be sure. In order. According to tradition so Lindsey was dragged to the Speaker's chair by 2 supporters why I asked the historian Professor Sarah Richardson who teaches British electoral politics at the University of Warwick So basically it's not all rolled in theory is one that that sort of so it's this idea that they have the servant of the Parliament being dragged to the to the Speaker's chair to take up the role because they'd really rather like to be sitting on their benches and making substantial speeches. Well I mean the fear is that basically they have to give up their role as a constituency m.p. Almost in the modern house of commons so the tradition is that it tends to alternate between Conservatives and Labor M.P.'s because there's been 2 main parties for most of the 20th century at least so as soon as they become speaker they effectively cannot represent their constituents you know if there's a road being built and they want to protest against it they've got to share the debate they can then into being so kind and to be desired they have disadvantages their constituents doesn't have to be a byelection do they stop being a constituency m.p. No they're still a constituency m.p. But the capacity for action is considerably diminished because they've got to be impartial and they've got to chair debates so. I mean obviously there are deputy speakers narrow you know there are ways that they can influence and in some ways you could say that their constituents get you know heightened publice the tea invisibility but in other ways I mean a lot of constituents of being very frustrated that their m.p. Cannot act on their behalf but it's now sort of chairing the Commons when did this role begin what was its origin and history. So the 1st speaker is comes from the 14th century which is the reign of Edward the 3rd and again basically as has been the sort of theme throughout history the speaker was. The person who was supposed to sort of liaise between the Commons and the monarchy so at that stage the court was seen to be corrupt and the speaker was put in place in order to sort of represent parliament represent the people or well at that stage it was the barons and knights and the sort of nobility of the kingdom against the Crown so if it came into being RINGBACK during a constitutional crisis and in a way whenever the spotlight shone on the speaker it's because there's a constitutional crisis and he could sort of say that that's where we are today but if you look back into history with the English Civil War for example the speaker played a pivotal role in that period when Charles 1st tried to go into the Commons arrest some M.P.'s and speaker stood up and said you know no I represent the house you know you can't come in and arrest them pays. Were speakers ever in physical danger did the monarch ever try to have the speaker led away in chains and I like that well yeah I mean I think the obvious one is this speaker lentil his cool during the Civil War crisis in the 16th forties Charles the 1st and officials to you arrest 5 rebel M.P.'s and he stands up and refuses to allow that that point he gets away with it and instead it's so his his stand is significant however he remains speaker through the whole of the Civil War period and all of the crime while Streep sends the chamber. Later on when Cromwell's them the protector of the kingdom and at that stage he tries to stop them but eventually gives way so there is so certainly he was in physical danger and since that period no Monica's been able to set foot in the Commons which is why they have this huge ritual of that rolled back banging on the door and the speaker leading the common sense the Lords for the I'm in a parliament. Who goes down as a great speaker I mean obviously the book has yet to be written on on John. But how do people judge what makes a great speaker. Where it's difficult because I think the speaker plays a very. Well well certainly since the 19th century the speakers played a sort of pivotal role in deciding which missions get to be discussed which missions get to be photo on their feet Farias precarious moments in the 19th century for example it was the Irish Home Rule issue I mean perhaps the person who defined the role of the speaker is a speaker in the 18th century. Called Arthur on slavery was actually speak of the 33 years and he was the one he established this idea that the speaker needs to be impartial and above party prize that the speakers could be quite partisan so you get speakers intervening in debates you even get a speaker in the early 18th century Robert Wholey who's a minister as well as a speaker says this idea that you know speaker is from being in the government was all the call is quite a recent invention in a way and there were several procedural innovations were brought on by Speaker barrack or can they then be rolled back if if the new speaker. Chooses to do so. Yes Basically the speaker as well is sort of been the chair of the commons he's also controls the estate so I mean one of the interesting things that the speaker has done over the years has decided he is allowed to come and listen to debates his last report on debates it's quite recent that there's been parliamentary reporters allowed in and it was certainly controlled to see in the 18th or 19th century about whether to base could be reported so to speak or in a way is the person who is in charge of parliamentary procedures but also the parliamentary est So there is nothing to stop they don't see Hoyle deciding a different you know different precedents different different rules and different ways of proceeding than John Burke. Professor Sarah Richardson. Well we've heard a lot of our measles this year and one of things we know about it is it can hang around on the surface and in the air for more than an hour every infected person on average process this highly infectious disease to 12 or 18 other people is much more contagious than the flu or even a bowl or so why I have 58000 people in Ukraine a country 42000000 suffered from measles this year alone the fact is that in 2016 or less have babies and children in Ukraine who should have been him you know is to get bugs like measles polio and tetanus and whooping cough in fact received those injections Ukraine has big problem with what's been called vaccine hazard and say Kate Callen from writers has been to Ukraine to investigate. Well Ukraine has a vaccine confidence problem that is a problem that is evident in many countries but in Ukraine it's been building this mistrust and doubt in vaccines has been building for a long time and as is often the case in the same situations they often start with something like a false scary mean we know about the problems with m.m.r. The false scares about m.m.r. Vaccine in in Britain and in Ukraine it was a case of a teenage boy of the 2008 time when who he died after getting at a vaccine but then they found that there was no link between the 2 incidents but by then the mistrust and the doubt and that the damage has been done Ukraine also has a history of mistrust of authours say they also had supply problems with vaccines in the post Soviet era the health system is weak and all of this leads to sort of growing insecurity and doubt and and that in turn leads to fewer fewer people having their children vaccinated and more importantly actually delaying right so how does that compare to Britain for example you know in terms of infant vaccinations. The infant ballasts nations are not too bad in Ukraine currently the the problem is this cohort of people who haven't been vaccinated over the years say back in 2016 only Harf of the babies who should have had their child he lacks childhood vaccines had them at that time and those children are now obviously growing up and so what you're saying is you've got large cohorts of younger children older children teenagers even young adults who haven't had large numbers of them haven't. The vaccines that they need to protect them from Aids diseases throughout their lives and that means that when a disease like measles is terribly contagious it finds these pockets of vaccinated people and it can spread very quickly and is that is that the thing as a as the international community viewing your craziness as a potential source of infection Well Ukraine has 58000 cases of measles at the moment so vast outbreak they've had 41 deaths $25.00 of them in kids and we've also seen with viruses like measles that they there were only a plane ride away and there are pockets of unvaccinated people in communities across the world included in clothing in the United States and Britain Germany Italy Netherlands all over the place there are these pockets they may be small but there will be people who aren't vaccinated and viruses like measles and indeed polio which is also a risk a very good finding those weak spots in immunity and spreading so we have seen a crossover already from the Ukraine via Jewish communities with the measles virus being spread into Israel and even into into the New York City and New York State outbreaks that we saw really so so Ukraine as connected as it to the way it was outbreaks in Brooklyn and places like that that's right yes. Is there or is there a rule here that social media can play well social media of course has a role in the misinformation as well as the potential solution I mean Lumas and misinformation about vaccines can be spread very quickly on social media in what's grapes and Facebook pages but of course the helpful stories he's in Ukraine along with N.G.O.s and international organizations like Unicef and rotary are trying their best to counter the misinformation and part of their campaign will be using social media platforms to try and inform parents and adults who haven't been vaccinated of the risks of these diseases and to give them accurate and reliable information. It was all happening. Yeah it's sort of all still happening to be honest with you it's been exciting game of cricket so far $93.00. In the 4th 23. Has taken a look at these 1st international cricket. 337 . Also taken a very could catch as well this is a very inexperienced England side actually they've got 6 players who made. This tour so that you can pretty well reach a pick back up very strongly. He's on 33. And he's on 4 from me. For my. Special I would have made it so far I think it's been. So I think there have been. Very well but also. New Zealand have been able to really get ahead of the game so at the moment New Zealand scoring runs but losing weight with a little bit of regularity which is. Slightly but it's too dangerous at the crease at the moment which if you remove them it could get a bit busy later on you had 20 campaign Middlesex last year with these new players playing for. No surprise he's done well you know these guys who've been picked on this tour to make their debuts in these games have been picked for a reason the outstanding performance in the t 20. In the United Kingdom and you know the guys deserve the opportunity and I think all of them of come in at some stage have made an impact so far which I think is a very healthy. English game Thank you that's the fair I don't want to tempt people away from your excellent program but you can hear. From 5 lives. With a New Zealand score $96.00 for 3. By the way and a look at his 1st over he's he's showing and trying to make an impact set to get a place on the plane to take over when it comes to. That you want to win this series 5 games of course it's $11.00 this is the 3rd game but in the wood or heads here in this beautiful. The record books by the way to get away. We have had a few actually. It was interesting he took a wicket in his 1st over in the woman playing for England I was over in Lincoln last week so he's obviously someone who's got a knack for doing that sort of thing and if I lose Gregory who's in the polling here at the moment the Somerset all rounder he took a look at these very 1st ball bowling and slash quick in the last sort of thing that's carrying on a rather unusual. Trying to make an impact in the series. Thanks very much out of. No problem. But China Lynn Sweet Chicago Sun Times Lynn. How hello and we begin with it's good to hear you too and we evened up the score here we took a little a little grief just a small amount of grief last week for following the World Series of baseball So we're balancing things not we're bouncing. So tell us about the Chicago policeman who was attacked by wealth Corp's that. The superintendent of police in Chicago who took a real uniform from present when he was visiting Reiser wanted to go President Trump this in Chicago making his 1st visit us president and Chicago leaders are all at odds with his policies and he has been criticizing the last 8 slamming Chicago problems with crime. 2016 so the police superintendent Eddie Johnson put out a statement a status Trump said he wasn't he was coming to speak to a police chief's conference in Chicago Eddie Johnson says well I'll come to the convention but a boycott the speech so I was in Chicago covering Trump's speech but then a few minutes just barely as he got started he started slamming Superintendent Johnson like he shouldn't be doing this you shouldn't want and he's bad for a city and then just a few days ago he sent a tweet saying that he should be fired at least now against this backdrop if it was just trump this cops the police superintendent only problem he probably wouldn't even talk about retirement after 31 years on the force but he's also very unpopular with the police you again there are. Totally had they came under no confidence because Chicago has gone through a lot of problems with police you know to a lot of great thanks but there is a federal consent decree that got going under President Obama which of course Trump deplored and then this might be the final thing in talking about his retirement because it sounds like right Trump is bullied this police superintendent out of work here he also has some health issues and just was found to fall asleep in front of her house. This car recently and I don't know if it's all been sorted out you know was just a medical problem that he had to drink if he just needed to fall asleep in your car so it's just a lot of things happening but it's a very compelling story because it's we have a new mayor in town and for her to look for a new police chief soon it's going to be a big deal if indeed he does decide to retire seems to me the handwriting is on the wall that one way or the other is on its way out and now this creates another complexity for the new heir who just finished this tour strike is to go find a police superintendent who's going to make everybody happy and you know but everybody's not going to be happy oh what a rotten job oh dear and now there's some very strange So if you have a conviction for accountable as you've got a better chance of landing a job in the legalize pot and the say this is this now this is something I thought I listeners would appreciate since legalizing pot recreational pot is becoming so big in the United States and it's coming to Illinois now in a lot of places in the United States at least if you have a conviction for possession are selling of marijuana it could back out of contention for getting the job people here still get drug tested they have police records because of this but now in this one industry it's really been born in Illinois and has the potential of giving people jobs and when you take who might be interested in working at the pot industry it's people who like pot. About it and appreciate it and probably use it so these people are people who are seen to have a value and you know possession of marijuana is a crime it isn't one of the 10 Commandments that you're broke it's just whatever your local authority. These have said this is illegal. Liquor was once illegal in the United States during prohibition so this isn't seen as a Borel crime that would make you unfit to serve especially cannabis shop so it's interesting as this industry is being born and spawns in Illinois. And how long is it before Illinois starts and so in part shop so they are they they are not it's not there's medical marijuana now in Illinois but we don't have the street level retail out there or fits there I've seen it you know the medical marijuana dispensary surround but you have to look up the address of Los Angeles and some other American cities if we walked around Los Angeles you would see stories that look like Apple stores you know a big shiny Yeah this one change in particular that is very great interior since link and you could go in and buy. A variety of cannabis related products but it's right there at street level I think the way the law is run in Illinois is that it will never be that flamboyant quite that retail oriented. Well as let's go to politics in Cook County always an interesting thing because that was the home of the dailies Mayor Daley and while his father Mayor Daley before him anyway some Chicago polls that is to say political leaders still can't seem to stick to the straight not oh well I do years the wrinkle we're in the midst of. Multiple this a poll corruption and state legislative scandals going on right now that are unfolding and so 2 figures who have gotten in trouble indicted one is Alderman the other sustain rep they also wear the head out of a local political boss for the local organizations that again Chicago is organized where you have elected officials who represent you know government and then the political parties have their own officials and often you know elected official also plays a role in the party well up until just a few days ago the political party the Democrats tolerated as have. People under indictment still doing political duty says official So the party the story we have now is that 5 he fell but he's taking a blow and taking these guys out there political jobs it's about time well well you can say that I'm sure the sad times says that to those who are patently appropriate sentimental and sank you very much indeed thank you. I. Said Stuart Hogg I'm here with the b.b.c. News this may transfer my short Good morning the main news on 5 Live for Commons has a new speaker in sport Parkinson takes a week in his 1st over the Black Caps are building a challenging total. Is b.b.c. . Jeremy Cobain's told the new common speaker he'll need eyes in the back of his head M.P.'s have chosen Sarah Lindsay Hoyle who's been a deputy since 2010 to replace John Bercow it will now be his job to keep order churning debates haven't cads our political correspondent It's widely expected that he is going to be much more muted in his approach that while he will continue to do things that people liked about to have did things like championing backbenchers that he's likely to be shall we say less flamboyant lighted him less of the sort of you know chuntering from a sedentary position or telling people to take something medicaments that's unlikely to be seen in say Hoyle style Boris Johnson's challenge Jeremy Corbyn to come clean to voters about his Bracks it plan in a letter to the Labor leader the prime minister accuses him of failing to explain his proposal Labor says its policy is clear and straightforward and that it will allow people a final say the Liberal Democrats will launch their election campaign later this morning. Parties promising to put 50000000000 pounds into public services if it comes to power and what it calls a remain bonus it says the economy would grow faster if we stay in the e.u. 4 White House officials have failed to appear before an inquiry into Donald Trump a congressional committee says the testimonies would have been important in establishing whether the president put pressure on Ukraine to investigate a political rival he denies the claims are North America correspondent is Peter bowed.