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Now let's get the latest on the Ashes was Jonathan a friend 317 for 3 Australia now it's been cold water has brought out is his 150 with successive boundaries of Moeen one to the 3rd one to the midwicket boundary he's been terrific form his 155 not out shore March with him on 19 Australian not far away now from reaching England's 1st innings total of 346 there 317 for 3 commentry continue on 5 Live Sports Extra with the Test Match Special to Nick Hatton has the rest of the sport Virgil van Dyke began life at Liverpool in the best possible fashion as he started to pay back his $75000000.00 pound transfer fee with the winning goal in these deputy in the Merseyside derby at Anfield the Dutchman 2nd half header and of to give Liverpool a $21.00 victory over Everton secure their place in the 4th round of the f.a. 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To sign up where you'll also find the Terms of Use this is where for fun you know 5 of them gotten added by which talk about football to Europe or South America grows from of them playing at Leeds as well have regular updates from Sydney in facts I men are men relegated him to now John is there with Brant in the studio here with me before you answer that question about whether there's any equivalent to the wearing of pink in Sydney this morning in football in South America let me introduce you to a young journalist of the day of the night. He can sing. Did you know that famous singers got McKenzie. Tim. Scott Walker Yeah that's one of the talking about guess he's in the studio with us. He's in the studio with us you've got another Scott Walker with me today it doesn't sound like the same Scott Walker does it's him. Thinking maybe he's been taking it too easy on himself not really Scott Walker so. Full pardon and he's got a program that goes out nationally nationally at least locally Leicester and a place where lesser won the league that year you were big Lester your program your grime and football programs my radio show start the year off to because I mean world Shankar spoke of Shadows love and say you're not the Scott Walker we're looking for you but that's because that's the door over the next here. And I'm not like that you know feel free to join in and then was asking you about the Were there any sort of similar tributes I suppose in the South American football. There are a lot of players who make donations and Neymar recently made a donation to a cancer charity but the formal appeal type things and the best one I can think of that comes to mind is is from England perhaps this is just because I happened to be there on the day when I think the thing was being launched but it's the Bobby Moore Fund. I'm going to be in it was a pre-season friendly when they retired West Ham retired the old Upton Park they retired the number 6 shirts. It was a fantastic occasion it was a pre-season friendly with money going to the Bobby Moore Fund and since that fund as been has been running that. Eradicating bowel cancer cancer and since that fund has been running that they proudly point to the statistic that mortality rates have decreased 30 percent obviously that's not all down to the fund you know it's down to medical advances as well but the fund is clearly playing playing a key role in that wonderful statistic clear. Clear. It's got I have. Questions about Carlos Tevez you know you play the lender's West. He's gone bad 1st time and next now he's 34th a major by. 34 and you still training. Where is he going back to for the 3rd time. But June is how my childhood told of my dream team and I sold my companies because they played in the pre season Emirates caught my bucket team I wanted to and I did see them and they were fantastic and the end of Andy proselyte said he wanted one of the balloons because as see them wouldn't play in blue and yellow cycle as there was really an opportunity for it because what does Tim think of them going back and it's a child to think and then the other containing the causes of their present a retard international football. No it is international record is very very poor and it's appalling something like 10 goals in 70 games. I'd love to get mean is opinion on this because think about this today when I was think about 7 is. Managed to get out of you went to China a year ago and he just said really he said you know I never really left never really left Baka that mentally probably didn't eat took an entourage of like 50 people to China with him including his golf coach so you just try to recreate recreate these in Shanghai I mean as it is after in China. And they said he was fat they said when he does have a tendency to put on white. Eastland right down now there was talk and this was part of the negotiating process but there was talk about maybe retiring. But he's always like to have a moan he has a moan more every gallows he's such a difficult fella to put up with I think and I always think about him because. I'll see what I mean obviously has a entirely subjective love for him because of the great season the one truly great season he had in Europe was that you Ventus the other clubs the one stuff but he would be when he was he was never the main man and as soon as he that is one great season event is what do you do he ran back it was almost like a declaration that you know I don't do this again but this is where aware of what I mean is opinion is I was thinking about imagine in a competition to find the world's strongest man so you get tain all together you know what someone wins but someone has to look at some of those to come last as well you know so someone of all of the candidates for the World's Strongest Man someone is the weakest he's still a strong man but in the company of the world's strongest men he's the weakest and I think about this because of those players who are seen as world class. I think have is the worst easy is the weakest world's strongest man in a world Strongest Man competition as. Well you very lazy lying the great season the lazy made the gods Yeah well what's that that's a golfing metaphor which I think he would appreciate but I want to see if meaner agrees with me or who you can thing as and honestly speaking of margin team and I have to pick a forwards between. Him and the battery Cathey I do. You're going to think I'm right now would you would you mount somebody filed in China. Somebody I'm beginning to break a national record drift. You know what I think. Country I think the one season that he has incidentally a lot of people often ask me why agent of the things that come to come and when me into being the coach that I think it is is because one of the reasons is again to have it you know a legacy is we managed to bring something out of him to make him live up to the potential that we all knew but it's like you said right he just doesn't mind to exhaust himself and having to play with that kind of composure and having to constantly think and sacrificing himself you know rather than relying on him doing things and he's kind of selfish right but at times he was also too just just holding himself I mean I just remember this because it was against birth and he was just so desperate to get a goal but it was a great chance to bring in a lot on what I thought was young getting out Michel because you know possible issues going on it was there when comes to didn't say it like you know once he should leave the school of this and just holding himself back in going and giving it a little nonchalance if you don't come when you can score this and then you go you should be able to school is and then about over to change market right he just came out in the process them and he became one of those the Stop days that you've been to that watching Tebow do that it was almost painful for him but at the very same time it's why we were so indebted to him at the time because it's like he finally. How to Be a good leader how to be to develop to his potential to show intellect sincere to show compassion almost you know but and this is something that he was taught by a coach that I think is one of the finest never recognized for it but. I don't know yes because when he is I mean his very best this is the thing right you know so much that I mean the best about his ability is available right so it's about a player who's always consistent who always gives you something you know the last 20 years you know it's like but then if you if you think about it right now team you know for example wasn't someone who was consistent in the sense that he didn't play football at the highest level and win the 1000 trophies every 20 year period but at its very best we cannot be grounding at the most. Well just just just on that note let me bring in Jonathan a friend in Sydney and the reason why I'm bringing you in Jonathan is that in a full life of course people will know you as 5 lives tennis correspondent yes I remember a conversation that you and I had you might remember I'm not going to give away the name of the person concerned the player he concerned unless he wished to divulge it but remember this conversation has been about whether Tim victory is suggesting that Carlos have is was the we kids of the people who plays it could be considered to be. You know world's great his players. Or what was it was a phrase used him remind me again. It was something about me it might sense. Strength. Call us names I wanted strongest when you become not. Well the strongest players the job losses this week is of the world's strongest if you can't you remember you telling me about a play that you felt was the most. The How did you put it you said it was the. Basically you saying he was the player punched above his weight the most of the players all right Ok. Well I yeah I'm the name that comes immediately to mind as to Mammon that's the guard that was the Hammond is a guy he reached for in the world reach 6 grand slam semifinals came very close to getting to a grand slam final potentially winning one particular the French Open 2004 many people remember Wimbledon 2001 of course and even ease of each semifinal but here was a guy you know with not a huge amount of world class ability but just had the whole package and for me to to do what he did in the game was testament to the amount of hard work behind the scenes his professionalism and how he managed to get get the wins on the tour absolutely he was a he was a top 10 player for a long long time and you know he had he had a great career and so many people had a go at him and justifiably that's the cardless Tevis of tennis really in the way that it's him because when describing him and not really because he's been in dolls I don't think that the comparison stands up at all and one of the things I think that probably held back was all of the adulation that he's got in in Argentina the plier of the people because of his is very poor background and so on I know that the story of Argentina in the 2010 World Cup is a team that matter Donna had qualified he just got them over the line and they will look you know right and make Mina would would probably approve of them because they were reasonably sound defensively and then he had to find room for 10 days in his team he had to do it and he ended up unbalancing his entire team got an absolute show wrapping from from German. In the quarter finals and and the reason was they. Don't you just couldn't leave Tevez out the team he had the dubious the psychological. Thing that Tevez had to play which was shared by huge I mean when I went out to Germany Messi was playing fetch and carry for 10 days which is a mad inversion of what their role should have been but Sammy's indulged indulged in Doze he's always always been indulged so I think he's the same human in that one Ok Fair enough of the draw into this was happening where you are yet 320 for 3 in Australia is still there 155 not out Shaun Marsh with him 22 knots out Joe Root his ball in the captain right now is given Mason crane a a good go the young leg spinner on the as well as taking the one wicket to full today that of Steve Smith but Australia heading now towards that 346 which was England's 1st innings title and then obviously they'll be into the lead and can add as many runs as they feel like the softening things are a little bit on the big appeal for out and he's gone that show mush out caught behind unless he wants to review it he's going to stride up to the other end to talk to his mum to watch but it looks like Joe Root has the breakthrough here Marsh's Nick one behind well taken by best but it they are going to review it so they going to head to the 3rd umpire to the d.r.s. Review system and 1st of all they'll look to see if it was a no ball because Tom Curran had one disallowed if you like for a no ball before lunch which is most unfortunate but no that's Ok So has he nicked it has to avoid so well with the reaction of the crowd what do you think they're saying are they saying no he hasn't They did seem to be a noise hot spot will play next now this is the sort of x. Ray system which shows the mark of the ball on the back if indeed. The bowl has touched the batter tell you what it's very close Dawson snickometer will come next is there a sound as the ball passes the bat tell you what it looks like there isn't it looks like Australia are going to get away with this one yeah not out what a shame the Empire gave it out to rigidly behind but on the review today are us and you've been talking haven't you about v.a.r. Virtual assistant referee is the system that's going to come in in football what there is evidence of how it works in cricket the umpire gave that out the technology shows it was not out and what a minute later on we go with the game that was really exciting even more exciting than who car in tennis. Fabulous to see. If we want to get into football you know it doesn't you know it is a 101 why we had to wait so long as you say tennis it happened there wasn't a cricket it happened as fast as they possibly did the football if you want to know the mood with me no you just go ahead Carol and so can the way you want to go there . Go there you go thanks very much for the grades we Jews rub Ok we go Harmeet with us in London I mean. And I have it oh hello sorry after you on me while I was having my anchor So Shari down why are you . Leaving turns out of its I don't you know by the way I should I should say thanks to Gary for leading us into that commas to have his question was actually before you introduce your question let me let me go back to question that or a conversation that we had with Mina and joining the program about sliding tackles I know there are young journalists in this huge body Jonas you might have these on this is well I mean it has got views on sliding tackles Scott 1st of all of the Scott Walker citing taxes you want to talk about a great team Yeah yes I saw if I simply I grew up in a or a way it was players that I was watching and I was a young sense back and I was watching players like. Tony had even even 5 or felt like in the sense of boxing and they were masters of sliding tackle I just it looked like into the very last 2nd they were going to catch the player and not the people and their foot would just move that shows something and you just in or and you're just thinking how how can and so for me I see the beauty of the Senate they were rubbish defend is essentially what you're saying so yeah I mean you know according to me you know I would run for any. Adams in who has. Been so convoluted but I've got a big family coming to direct in something and what we're talking about is how you tackle sometimes where I do think it's necessary or when you do when you can be a great player but you have to indulge in these kind of sort of like emergency talk well the right you know imagine the situation it depends also on what kind of support your playing so a lot of people don't rate. So you're around also the center back is a reason. In England. Ok so for me is outstanding and that's why he's on standing is because he is a guy who's very right who does do these things a lot of this emergency play him and I think back in the you know. These international what that play of football is that Madrid are so it turned they're still going for with that one on so many occasions your left with these 2 center banks their own one on one situation it's much harder to have organization and have a unit in place so they are relying entirely on their own ability to overcome and to do that and so when you want able to consistently manage just lining tackle and hold the opponent despite the way that your team is playing well then you can be an exception in that way but I'm talking about more players who are within the system you know I I'm a fan of sides have a different system because the system always kind and less pressure and before I go back to Hammett on this very question would you like to add a caveat to your did. You have anybody he deigns to slide in a tackle know remember we're not dealing with normal people here as Scott was talking or was remembering the 1991 f.a. Cup semifinal I like to remember the 1991 f.a. Cup semi final and the Arsenal fans only white at a stadium the singing about their full backs no no. No if you want to you can what kind of team go to the stadium thinking about your fullback Lee. Kind of people and leaders he's trying to bring you to. Thinking about if it was that knowledge would have been one to. Not do. That I mean I mean what do you think about these sliding sacks in favor of I mean. I mean I think you have Scott Shane aeration I grew up watching the great Arsenal. And I mean I mean. I claimed. It was. Mine you know Richard able to. I grew up and still today my my favorite thing on the football pitch is the last sliding tackle and we are not you know the right place. But you know I want to know if you don't want to hear and I know you love. The essence of the fact that you know it could be a bad go or it could frighten someone's like and you also wonder. Why you like. One of them because it's like an accident when you see sort of. Suited The you'll see in slow motion because as as as this comes in left of the camera you think you. Want to see I mean one of the one of the reasons I love what you play is because every time you get. In a bar of course it's about time for you to sit there and go wrong something everybody. Should be better. Then. Going to die. Or how do you think well I want to kind of you know what kind of looks in the heart of Scott Walker do you. Think you might have made I think the appeal of what being a sliding tackle is probably you know and I think sort of. That glory away from that from the attack in the last 2nd you know if it's really exhilarating I think actually when you're playing for a defender and reading the game and everything but the adrenaline rush of making. Tackle you think the bulls you know that going to go one on one on my keeper I was going to cross it in for an easy task and I mean I mean you should ride and curve and then you just take over Chile away from it to me that is growing up watching that that. Close and that's what causes so the fall of Assad to our school so I can measure some was ability to school it will be fine and I think I think I think this has been one of my questions but it's a good point it's got raises I think yes she is much nowadays I mean I think benefits rose tinted glasses but maybe a part of that. Is that children a little kids and even people my age are growing up playing on pressure test victories and father side where the rules say you know outside tackle and play on those teachers and it really annoys me because it takes you know the most enjoyable part of my game away where the attack is good everything and I wonder whether that's why you know people keep on growing up you know able to I need take you take some of these skillful players and they just don't know how to really do not know how to. Perform a fight which you know when I grew up now it's just the pomposity of of again if one could do it I mean it's just glorious and then maybe it's just being enough and talking about going to grabbing in the arsenal for you do actually have a question as well go to. The voice go. To a friend of Hyderabad and. Say my my original question was I mean I go to Lisa to my guess is well you can you can check in on but I was wondering what rugby they've got so big screens and you know they broadcast the highlights and life for the referee on the pitch to see is what is the audience at same time they all see that guy in the booth thing up and watching the lights more closely on a small screen possibly wondering what why can they do that in Italy why do they have the little screen where the ref can only see and I still run across what can they just. Put on a big screen and everyone can see and the rest of the Nets will scramble to the sideline to. Because I have to explain to everyone because I don't want the crowd to see it or they really don't know how they want it to go and they want to. Get the latest form of lot of headlines with Dina Campbell in my from the early. Morning hours this is b.b.c. 5 Live the chairman of the parole board in England and Wales is to be summoned by M.P.'s to explain the decision to release the serial sex offender John Worboys the former black cab driver was jailed in 2009 for attacking women in his taxi the author of a controversial book about the trumpet ministration says he stands by everything he wrote dismissing the president's claims that it's all lies Michael Wolff fire and fury has become an instant bestseller despite being condemned by the White House high energy proton beam cancer therapy will be available on the n.h.s. 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System right decision but did not hit the ball but every right for Brett along side me again Joe Root in to be a tie he has actually worked well for it but they charge as we sort of get that break through Warne it wasn't all it's a game in Melbourne just one up and well when I went for sometimes he's that bowler that just come in and get a bit of magic. As well you're skipper leading from the front at times but it just wasn't to be this one fortunate for him again not a whole heap of luck for England in this Test match Australia going well 329 for 3 so there's 17 runs behind England with those 7 wickets still stand. Bunch of underlings had a night to remember on his Liverpool Debbie corner she was she was she was funded beginning at life a little hole in the best possible fashion as he started to pay back a 75000000 pound transfer with a winning goal in his Debbie win the most he sighed Davina and failed the Dutchman 2nd half header and of to give Liverpool 8 c. One victory of evidence and secured their place in the 4th round of the f.a. Cup. While life fully deserved obviously and. Short amazing to be that they're going with this this goes and the. First question for me and obviously full of them is Will for Everton I got back into the game at 11 I'm a pushing for a winner out before Vandyke's like had their manager Sam Allardyce thought his side did enough to force a reply we gave everything we could today and I think that. In the end we were disappointed that we didn't take him back to our place and when they get there we're in there and on fortune for all she props Jordan if instead of the line much more to say I'm ready for she lost a few minutes to go through to the 4th round of Manchester United to no one is at home to Darby county United they're made to work hard for that win goals from Jesse Lingard a normal car king coming in the 84th 90th minutes United boss Josie Marina was impressed with the Championship side their defense very very well Carson played well at the Post played well for them they were close to replay it doesn't surprise me for me the championship is coming into their actual. Their Premier League level just they play in another competition but they are probably elsewhere Ross Barkley says he's overwhelmed to be given a fresh start at a club like Chelsea he's joined from Everton $15000000.00 pounds on a 5 and a half year deal while Everton have completed the $27000000.00 pounds signing of to strike a tosser. Botham ended that 3 match losing Premiership road with a comfortable 4625 victory and next to Boston was still in the pro 14 Scarlett's open a 7 point lead at the top of conference Bay They scored 7 tries as I beat dragons 47th that same ole Adam or schooled 5 tries as they be somethin Kings 377. Days often in addition Sarah and I will be joined by rap song writer and television personality Stephen Manderson aka Crow physically. Speaking to the guests that show and also working class white men in Britain feel abandoned in the school how we changed. Them In addition to Professor Green from b.b.c. . Trust for news and the best law school this is b.b.c. 5 Live Ok it's not a buy out. So for the world. To see. Little. Scott you know this is singing could he tell you he's in school. Never listen. To me. You know recognize our voice I'm not recognizing it you've never heard that voice before I probably have but I haven't heard that so. Your old man is never pray do this Roy's riffle my thoughts know my thoughts and radiance that this will use it so it was your dad the gave you the name Scott Walker the noise my mom is your mom say your mom has a brain just go it will go she's going to show music anyway it was a complete accident that there was somebody whose coats go for a walk it was an accident that it was probably not for a. School's goal which is. The famous school yes interesting today and this is called welcome your namesake yet. Is it good to you into it you get into to get it yeah but I wouldn't listen to the soul music. On my own Normally you can appreciate a good singer because your grime and I'm a fan of crime. If ever I've ever seen him he's gone to the grind that's his music isn't paid to do growing up. Anyway I. Think I think by now you will know you will recognize his voice from fight again next time I'll be I'll be shy on it Ok this is the next time have a listen to this it's got. You know this is. To go. Around so that they're in there in there and took a while we got there in the end I said Wolf Wolf and this question that we heard just before the news media and Tim is well about video refereeing Why does the ref after run up and down as he can get fit a won't mean it. I don't know where you are you have a glass of coffee now you are. Not. Anywhere. Did you answer why should you spend on a social life with Andres Villas Boas you know something about I mean something else that she gets out. Are going to. Be the case of the women of that they would know the kind of don't you to know right referees Ok Jeez did you going for the come one come that will not go that well. When you want the highlights where no one really understood what was going on in the in amounts which were around Madrid and Al-Jazeera. Because basically everything went quiet and when you look out for involved in it is that the referee basically does a box like using a mountain you know he mimics you know like a box with his hand to say that he's going to go and check the screens to check that we need to see whether he's going to stand by his decision or not so how wide is that you have people who review that they did and if they think a major or they think something wrong has happened and they allow the referee he then goes in the about fine to say I'm going to review the footage and then everyone has to go and wait and see but you know there is like on like you know everything. Is really low. Because there isn't something right on like a monkey on my groggy as I've been you know we just and it's where you have all cry and everyone can see the question you know what's going on that doesn't exist for the fans so when you're sitting in the stadium it takes a while to realize that actually bar is taking place at the moment unless you understand that the referee is just pointed to say I'm going to go and watch the play. So when you common theme what he's seeing you don't see the replay yourself and this is the whole thing right because it is subjective I mean vile works great when it's a kick up decision but you know it's something that's you know sort of black and white but the problem with football is that there's a lot of you know shades of gray so what you can determine to be a foul that you know that should be you know. Given or won that actually he won the gold so it's fine Killian in that subjective to some of them so a referee can still stand by what he can have an equal if you want if he's decided on something he's been called to review the footage he can go quietly watching the footage and then signal to say well you know what I'm to buy my presentation so what you need is a greater level of transparency and that's what is for me that was one of quite a lot off to the. Just because you know as fans you want to see what the referee seeing you want to be able to give your opinion as well that's what the problem comes in and I'm not just trying this it but if you don't mind just coming in could hear because that's where the problem comes into because I'm like Who car that mean is mentioned unlike the video refereeing that we just saw only heard about in Sydney tonight a few minutes ago it's not as definitive when football is not as definitive as did the the bat you know did it cross the line or did it on the line of football's not as so football is down since appreciation of the transgressions down to interpretation and position when he's in what we have in many cases what is the point of having a video referee looking at if they were to show it to the fans offend still wouldn't agree they'd be a riot in the stadiums wouldn't it. Well. Then and they clearly are going to be teething problems with this clearly I mean it's clearly going to be difficult for for people to get used to it there are many cases of facts where. Where the thing is welcome but there also is so many cases of interpretation when the controversy doesn't go away and it's not going to keep going to I think that there's a kind of nerd out techno generation who think that just because it's technology is going to solve everything but I mean aside football is is full of the many gray areas and some. Much is interpretation and even one thing which is facts which is offside that depends so much and I think as anyone who's ever worked in t.v. Will tell you at the precise moment when the director of images stops the frame. Because you know what is the actual precise moment when the ball is being kicked and you're talking about micro seconds there now clearly the fact that this information isn't being shared with the fans it shows a little bit that the authorities in the game may still mistrust they still don't have total trust in our system for fairly obvious reasons I think I think it's here to stay what I really hope doesn't happen is that I think a lot of people are pushing for is that you give the coaches the chance to review as happens in cricket. Because my big fear then there are there's already I think perhaps more in South American football going in Europe in absolute chronic time wasting some of the time wasting that goes on he's really happening big time with the goalkeeper because if you're sides when he won in the last 1520 minutes you can do away with 5 minutes just with the goalkeeper going down you know going down to being injured because the game can't go on while the goalkeeper is down injured and that is being abuse so much I saw a goalkeeper going down fighting crime you know a guy who could get incredible how on earth what absolute rubbish but. If you give the coaches the the chance is what process has to a chart that let it go because he's got a lot of work to do. And so most of the. So my fear is once you give these coaches the chance to review situations they're going to do it if they haven't done it you know it's 5 minutes to go and then we know they are going to review decisions just to break up the rhythm of the guy because football is all about rhythm and anything that breaks out that rhythm is a potential enemy of football I think we should trial this in one particular game in the Premier League just to see if this is right on and it's one between Chelsea I think and united with me and can't. Insult would be the foreigner and I feel you get the very worst managers for that if you. James good morning James our morning everyone morning. Just quickly. The question I just I want to push a misstep. Last week we missed. This is what it was all about. Trashing the girlfriend of the owner c.j. . Ok we know we have. Yes a few weeks ago but before Christmas. Carol I'm probably frightened I didn't interfere when they were talking about the generation and how they failed at all Alex thought they shelled. I think. They were basically very competitive comparable and they let that sort of get away so they did it different tables and they got together and they didn't really bonded a group and I just wondered if. You could think of any international manager. Who had brought together successfully very disparate groups of crime players to go 1st then we say. So I disagree that disproves different. Diverse I think it's it's one for 4 main I think on how Spain have in during their golden period managed to do it. There there have been problems I can think of to Brazil squads where that's been a huge problem that was kind of rifts one with 74 when there was a real rift between the players from Rio in a place from San Paolo but perhaps the most interesting one is 90 the 91 World 9090 World Cup It's a landmark in the game because it's the 1st one where you get the the global market is in footballers is beginning to open up in that global market really then was not entirely restricted but centered on Syria in each city so the 99 World Cup squad was split half and half between players who were based in Brazil and players based abroad that in. Never happened before and they didn't used to pick. Didn't play inside Brazil in 86 they brought a couple back but in 1970 you got a split down the middle and that's one of the reasons for Brazil was absolutely disastrous showing that World Cup only scored 4 goals in 4 games and in general here you know there's an aspect of football that I think gets overlooked so much and that's the human aspect you know you can do your feet for games whatever and treat the players as if they're robots but there's that human aspect you're dealing with human beings. And the man management skills needed which surely that's a big part in the story of. How could someone fail as much as he filed into my lane and was failing for Brazil and then suddenly in different environments with different coaches different player is clearly a man management aspect to it and that man management includes the management of groups individually on man management I wonder what Mina thought listening to Sam Allardyce blaming his keeper for for the Goal that is. Good you know it's quite strange. You know to single out one of your players in that form that's a risky form of of man management but I mean it's a you know how Spain because Spain had that real rift between Real Madrid and Barcelona but that didn't seem to be a problem in the national team when they were winning everything. Well this is the thing it really it really depends on I think the philosophy of a country of what you deem is more important than anything else and I think that the success of the premium is and in making it you know. And the most watched of if not always necessarily their best football but everyone it's almost like club football which is what pays you money has become more important than England and I think that's also one of the reasons where you felt like when there were problems between Boston and around Madrid you had. And Eco Casy is coming together and you know March to the Shankar of Jersey Marine you and uniting and trying to stay friends for the sake of the Spanish national team you'll see you know peeking around or so trading insults at every turn when they are playing for the Spanish national team they put that aside because that Them country mant is more than around Madrid and Barcelona and that's just something that was based on how they started training their players it's about putting your country 1st above everything above what your team what your you know what Catalunya represents or what you know you know what Madrid represents It's about its type of loss a few one thing but I think also want me to what makes it so much more difficult for England over you know countries like Spain or is he or Germany is that you know with Spain it was combining say 2 or 3 clubs and the best players from them so yeah there was a key a spine and a clear identity that you can then you know give to this side you know this is the way we're going to based on the dominating team at the time so if you see Germany it's usually based around what Byron are doing if you see Spain is usually based around what. What Barcelona and Real Madrid are doing if it's really is based around eventis you know or perhaps Midlands well and to. You know you use the spine and the backbone but with England the Premier League is just become so successful that you've got 5 or 6 teams that all play very good football and possess different in this players and a lot of foreigners where it's not clear after a while you know where you do that I guess where you know where you pick from and so it was you know having you know a lamb part having 3rd in hand and if there was a little bit scouted and so there was no necessarily clear philosophy I guess you could say amounts to night is there any club really that was perhaps the most consistent and trying to put that all together when you cared so much more about winning the Champions League with United where you mattered so much more about trying to win the league if you were Liverpool and it just seems like the English mentality is always club above country on that and that's the way that I've seen it going and that is it east what it seemed to be a fabulous campaigner when he explains it it was like they just gave up and he didn't understand he it was like he had trainmen so well in these qualifiers in who he described them as this team that would just fantastic and they were and they really always are in the qualifiers in the end and yet when it comes to the final hurdle when there's all this precious surrounding Now it's like everyone just says Ok You know what while we've given up if they give up they can just go bag and it's the Premier League that. James I'm not sure what what everything from what you're saying and from what those players were saying. Someone sent to you the Gerard Lampard and Ferdinand thing but everything from me points to a failure of the coach be Erikson or be Capello for not being misused Yeah explain why based on what you just said the team were fantastic qualifications said. That's jewellery that's juror in the league season they were fantastic jury in the time when they were opposing each other on a weekly basis representing different clubs. But jury in the qualification campaign which is played in a club says that Floyd they get to the tournament when those club hostilities are suspended and I can produce. This is something missing there and may be a coup because. English players into ornaments are hoping it will be different now with a generation of come up winning the World under seventeen's and winning the World under twenty's and having tournament experience but English players in general is not used to spending their time away from their homes and going very good at it. Now it's like a Russian working really hard up Capello that shut up Capello in 2010 it was what he couldn't do he couldn't seem to be able to keep them motivated. When they're away from their families in a different environment for a prolonged period of time. To get me and Sally on. It is that I find that strange that you're having to teach our Jerrold man hard and Virgin and how to be motivated to do in the wild card it's like if these are professional players who are playing Champions League and winning titles surely when he gets to the stage this is something that Capello no longer needs to do any more this is about you doing it under the pressure and the media that English you know English football let's be honest all the media is in English write everything that we read nowadays as an English every country will that look at England because it's the country where you can read everything about it if you know any language you know and there's oh great a spotlight and a greater amount of criticism and that's one thing that perhaps Eriksson and Capello didn't deal with very well the spotlight was very you know what big when it came to the English national team and and always the players crumbled under the pressure I do think that you should take these players on board when we're talking about a golden generation and try to keep them motivated in the tournament. You know this is motor that motivation it's not an abstract motivation comes from your confidence in your ability to win and maybe that was lacking but for me what you mean well winning mentality Yes Yeah well not just the winning mentality but a team that they believe that will click together and win because that back that carries you through through the difficult times. 2010 is such a such an important moment in it because everyone thought they've got everything going for them now they've got a golden generation they've got a $5.00 coach in a World Cup in cold weather that's what they've always wanted and they were apps terrible and I don't know where else to lay the line on if if these are the underlying issues that part of Ferdinand are talking about why wasn't the coach getting getting to grips with these issues. Golden Generation Jonathan over and is the Sydney was his from there we go in generation in terms of Australia rather than oh I thought they were talking about the commentary box there must. Have a. Funny hat funny how it's always the coaches who get the blame in these situations isn't it you know reflective of 2010 and you know as well you know I never looked at the players too much but anyway cricket Well indeed they always did or is always our fault isn't photos my fault the other day that someone got here in Australia even they put a rubbish shot but anyway 348 for 3 Australia sure Marsh has 41. Has 162 and the significance of that score Ebony is that Australia now leads by 2 runs with 7 1st innings wicket still standing and you've got 2 men who are both now schoolteachers in this Ashes series it just feels pretty bleak at the motoring because you just sense that they're going to set them back the week is not we were hoping it might degrade all through. The date still turning but not quite 10 is no sort of popping so they settled in for the day you come in on this discussion quickly before I'm back to Dawson you've won the Wellcome with but you've had days when you were rubbish as well it was that your fault as players always at the coach always the useful nothing to do. Actual dating create the culture and environment nothing to do that. Is the right. Jonathan thank you very much for that was made up on the. Fly around for you guys please and you can join in on this is was caught please could you ask me where she things should go once he leaves the King Power stadium lest. Well I know that right nobody talks to her then they have a nice right alongside him so why not try and there should the larger clubs in the Premier League could set should be made to feel to some of the multimillions down to lower leagues to help those survive Matthew Birmingham. But I did anyway which would transfer fees and the like he. Does in point yeah yeah they did be very good point actually that's a good point though to talk about you know because James was Jamie Vardy Lester's going back to Fleetwood where he was signed for 1750000 a few years back he had no quite free and there are no rumors in this what he really was he's an albatross out of the mail but I wonder do they owe him or dizzier them would you think. It was both ways but who the most because he's gone on to great things obviously we're in the Premier League becoming a multimillionaire cetera et cetera they've got 1750000 for their leader who is a huge amount of money well obviously probably helped develop their squad for several years ahead. To the most you think Scott I'd say. He won all that with less the size that try feats and I was accolades and scoring 11 goals and 11 games consecutively. At Leicester so he I was less than he I was less This coaches he was a he became the player that's right once you. Be who you think is go to school. You know where does he run eats. Everything he said out there those who do the most that do the most meaning but I think he has and everything to me on it so well and then but arguably Fleetwood made him the player that Lester wanted to sign but they also made a 1000 on the play is but he's the one that went. To that point not every brilliant player Premier League team sometimes like you you look at him you look at me I know that's why he's going who knows who the most because it's that's like saying you know I don't know if someone became the president you know America. Him for getting there or or for the school board that is a kid to him or to his parents for raising him or the school that told him it's Ok I've got all this this question Tim who is you the most quickly. Oh I hope I would hope that the pair of them can look each other and you know I like like lovers just that if you know what I was great for you know this in my younger brother is named for Larry and there is somebody who's flaring in Georgia the United States he says have been listening for about 2 years now Jelani a frivolous new recommended this point because to me he said something about how my night job brother. And I was going to get a good laugh from Doughton and laugh out loud Tim is the best he's well it's not out of the cave he's amazing we would enjoy being so please don't try not cutting him off when he rambles last. Point my question for him is he's you very mean a good enough for both. He's very good whether he's good enough on the point I'm going to think you're going to have to cut you're not sure he's good enough passing that will think of me like yeah for a lot is a great. Young bright guy.