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News on 5 live yours Joe Horn be the government's house confirm that it's terminating the contract with stage cage to run the East Coast Main Line the transport secretary Chris Grayling says the company has run out of cash and won't be bailed out the railway will either be nationalized or be run by Stagecoach on a not for profit basis and he McDonald is the shop a transport secretary I think people have had enough of contracting out privatisation and all that goes with it they want their real services on the health services run for the benefit of passengers and patients it's about people it isn't about corporate entities extracting profits at every turn the White House is concerned about the biggest one day full of us share prices since the financial crisis in 2008 the Dow Jones plunged by more than 1100 points closing nearly 5 percent down. The Han is a stock price think a lot of it's driven by the fear of interest rates we had a great jobs report on Friday and so with that we also saw higher wage growth it means higher pressure on the Fed that they may have to raise rates so there's a fear that inflation will kick up its ugly head or in this case it's one it had by many people but it may do so in an exponential fashion. The former Conservative minister and remain campaigner and a subring is calling on Theresa May to in her words get a spine and get rid of the hard Breck city is from governments she's even threatened to leave the party and create a new political alliance they're not the Tory party that I joined 40 years ago and it's about time trees a stood up to them and slow the lot if it comes to it I'm going to stay in the policy which is being taken over by the likes of Jacob resoled Morris Johnson. Public Health England says it wants the cigarettes to be prescribed on the n.h.s. Within the next 2 All 3 years because they're an excellent way to help smokers quit the agency says they ping poses a much smaller risk than smoking tobacco after reviewing the latest evidence. Britain has the 10th most congested roads in the world according to a study the travel company in Rick says We spent an average of 30 hours in rush hour traffic last year Charlotte down again has that extra time behind the wheel is costing British drivers more than a 1000 pounds a year not just in wasted fuel but also because from household goods becoming more expensive as high a freighting fees a passed on to consumers the government says it's investing record amounts in the road network. Well math Barack Council says it will remove County homeless balls from its benches soft receiving extensive faith back almost 20000 people signed an online petition calling for the balls which stopped people dying down to be taken off and the British born actor John Mahoney has delight the 77 year old was best known for playing the fall that multimode crane in the sick home for Asia Shabnam you know what has your sport Chelsea ball Santonio comes I says it's ultimately the fault of the coach after their $41.00 defeat to walk but the pressure is building on the at Sally and as is the 2nd consecutive heavy loss in the Premier League following a 3 nil defeat to Bournemouth while what for boss have a classy a says his 1st home game in charge was an unforgettable night the Premier League is considering introducing a winter break when a new t.v. Deal is next to great talks have been ongoing for several months are understood to have been constructive the body which represents referees has defended Joe Moss' decision to award Tottenham's controversial 1st penalty against Liverpool on Sunday but the p g m a while says Moss was misguided to ask the 4th official for help using television while deciding it's understood Leeds will name Bond's new boss pull hacking Watson as the new manager within the next 24 hours he'll replace the sacked Thomas Christians them an England scrum half Ben Youngs will miss the rest of the 6 Nations with a knee injury Saracens Richard Wigglesworth is being called up to replace him ahead of Saturday's match with Wales at Twickenham this is b.b.c. 5 live on digital on was smartphone unsober that the weather that slates and snow will spread from the north west to nice reaching Opus Wales and Northern England Lay said full state everywhere loads of minus 3 to agree the 6 nations surrounding the run hard lesson for Scotland in the county at the ready for. 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After a campaign of more than 50 years that solve violence and death as well as protests in 1940 percent of British women were given the right to vote 100 years ago the representation of the People Act of 1900 extended the vote to women over 30 who owned property or who were married to a man who owned property will mark the center of the Centenary rather of the act throughout the program this morning plus Philadelphia is apparently the home of many to us 1st and 1st library the 1st hospital the 1st stock exchange the 1st zoo and now the Philadelphia Eagles have won their 1st Super Bowl title after beating the New England Patriots will be in Philly to hear how the Eagles fans flew late into the night. Good morning and welcome to the program and we start this morning by looking at share prices in the United States which have plunged by more than 1100 points in the biggest one day fall since the financial crisis a decade ago the Dow Jones index closed 4.6 percent lower it follows on from sharp losses at the end of last week so just how worried should we all be well let's speak to Tim Dewey an economist from the University of Oregon hello to him. Could not so thanks for your well let's start with that question is this. Not at this point I think a good question the should have been expected equity prices had one of very quickly in the last couple months and I was expecting some kind of correction in prices here in the near future you described as a correction how long the correction could this be how long will it go on for. One of the more difficult questions of the office a question of how long's are alley going to go on for I don't expect it will play out for much more than the next couple of weeks before stocks start to find firmer footing each the chili. Could very well be in. Hiding volatility when does a correction get to be something more serious. Well I would say. Much more extreme are talking about 15 percent 20 percent something like we saw. Some of the crash only to have a tied in with some economic data that was shown the u.s. Economy was really. Really at a tipping point into a very weak. Case of activity and the reality is actually quite the opposite we're really on a fairly solid 6 go off turn right now you described a minute ago that it could lead to a period no volatility what would that look like sort of everyday in the u.s. What impact it could have certainly. Compared to the current of fairly calm markets we've been having recently where we saw a day after. And stopped in equity prices now I think you have toward it carried much more. Ups and downs. As more of a normal market rather than a constantly rising one we were discussing or we will be discussing way through a bit more about the kind of political ramifications President Trump of course has been one to talk a lot about how the stock exchange has been performing record highs under his watch as a dangerous game is not for the president to be taking credit for the stock market I would say so if you take credit for the increases he basically only decreases as well so I would avoid taking too much credit for market. Because market is usually turned against you sooner or later when the White House sees its concerns about the fall on the u.s. Stock markets than what's that what will that mean will they just be watching closely what has that manifest itself I think. A launch in waiting to ation if we are watching how these. Continue or don't continue to one extent they actually propagate more deeply to the economy or the financial markets on long as they take their fairly well containing it is largely a correction then I think will be to move past this stage like a time a couple of weeks and generally then how is the us economy performing involves Lee had a year of President Trump and he's been talking up a lot of things that happened would you assess that. I would assess the economy is doing quite well I think that's largely separate from the political environment. Generally the economy is fairly resilient to shocks of leucine I think only enter 2017 and to change 2017 into 20 teams honest writing a fairly good cyclical wave that was also boosted by a global fickle and the uncertainty in the Us political situation has yet to. Derail how porous. Some additional tax cuts which I think will add a little fuel to the fire here going forward in the 20 team war the global implications of a correction like this of a potential period of volatility that you've described for happens around the world you know to be extent that. That this would signal some some slower pace of growth obviously you might feel that elsewhere in the world I don't think we're seeing at so I don't think the ramifications will be significant long lasting for for the global economy here I think we certainly need to see a deeper drop in stock prices or is it more implications or more indications that there's really a turn in the economic situation than we're seeing to see this as much more than you know a temporary financial implications was likely to happen in the sort of immediate short term over the next few days I mean will the correction continue. I think sometime next couple of days it will see if you if not tomorrow will see that the correction is starting to slow here it's not being started to well 1st I want to extract the rapid snapback in equity prices but I would expect to see some stabilization start to occur by the end of this we do corrections like this have an impact on an ever normal person or is it simply a kind of Wall Street thing or do people kind of notice something happening you know I do think that people notice something happening. But I also think that. I think financial professionals have been increasingly good about training their clients to be wary of taking too much information from a day to day minute and so I think you'll see this is years I think people incorporated I think that people will recognize it on the back of a string of strong gains rather than a fundamental change in their financial well being or the economy welding and this this drop or Monday's drop. Sort of a week of changing situation on the stock market to talk to us about what's been going on over the last few days. Yes So only will last week is any number of factors one of which I think it's only the market had become too floppy over the last couple months trust us to come up very heavily I think that had a couple of catalysts that could have gotten people to sort of value a deposition one of which is I think a realization that the economy was improving and was most likely the case of the Federal Reserve was going to continue to hike with interest rates and there was going to be some uncertainty about how fast and how far the Federal Reserve would hike rates and I think vaccinated some additional certainly an extra slim valuations are high then I'm sure. Helped to. Change the mood on on Wall Street I think you also have the interim the of us political situation that certainly. The difficulties the president is facing. And the concerns of this blows up into a political crisis. For caution as well so you want to get a couple things like that come into play last week that helps precipitate a change in Australia Tim thanks very much for that great Tim Dewey from the University of Oregon we'll keep an eye on that over the next few days weeks possibly months as well as quarter past 1 on the Philadelphia Eagles pulled off an historic victory yesterday beating the New England Patriots in the 52nd Super Bowl it was the 1st time that they'd won the competition in their 85 year history of course after the game thousands and thousands of fans took to the streets but there's online chill scenes of chaos and destruction in the aftermath including cars and shop fronts being damaged and looted a police officer was reportedly among those injured but despite the unruly crowds after the game Police officials say the celebrations were mostly peaceful earlier acoss up with Julie approved perusal from the Philadelphia Inquirer she was about. On the streets of the city last night it was a close game came down to the final minutes of the 4th quarter and the city that has never won a Super Bowl so you know there are people who have been waiting 57 years for this that's the last time the Eagles want to championship. And as soon as the clock ran down I was on the Broad Street which is sort of the center of Philadelphia and fans just started. Running towards City Hall cheering green flags raves hugging strangers talking Goldie it was a for the most part joyous peaceful celebration all the other there was some ruckus behavior as well how many people do you think roam the streets. It's hard to say I mean. 1000. There was probably a one mile stretch that was just filled with people and some of the aerial views are really cool I mean I think this is the most excited Philadelphia has been in a very long time but this is a city that hosted the Pope recently hosted the Democratic National Convention but I'm. Saying something Louis and I mean how long did the celebrations go on if you've been told night yeah so they the clock ran out at 10 17 pm and there were people partying and celebrating at about 2 am the crowd started to fan about to. Police kind of stand things out but even a 330 when I was finally able to turn you know I was still passing people who just didn't want a night. And then the morning after the night before he was beaten unfairly today. Well so obviously you know there are always some people that get a little too riled up and so there was some destruction of property last night there were some. Traffic lights that came down some overturned planters. A few store windows were shattered I know of 2 and so this morning the city did a very good job cleaning everything up you know I I almost everything put back today so that's good too yeah absolutely absolutely and it is on to the official celebration I guess way through the week yes so the parade is going to be Thursday we're expecting a really bad kind of know a rainy day on Wednesday so parade will be Thursday and the last time the Philadelphia had a parade it was when our baseball team the Phillies won and it's estimated that more than a 1000000 people went to that parade and Philadelphia is a football city we're expecting north of that I mean it's going to school that cancels the city government close but it's going to be something that also schools or schools are all for the parade schools are off for the parade Yeah a little different time the time announced today a private you thought school's a priority but this is a historic moment you want kids but he wanted to be able to enjoy it as Giulia perusal from the Philadelphia Inquirer Aborigine us the latest on the aftermath of the Super Bowl win at their yesterday now the U.K.'s rules are the 10th most congested on the planet and the 3rd worst in Europe behind Russia and Turkey that's according to a new study British drivers spent an average of 31 hours stuck in traffic last year according to the traffic information supplier in Rick's Colin Bamford is America's professor of transport and well just sticks and the Business School of the University of Hunter's field and either. Asking him whether the results of the study were a surprise quite frankly it isn't no. I suspect one reason of course is that we've got an increasing population we've got more people in employment we've got the highest level of the 'd ickle usage 'd that we have and and and quite frankly the demand to use the road net 'd doesn't seem to keep 'd up with the initiatives that out to increase supply so. An obvious outcome of the thirty's is more and more congestion for all the reasons you just listed it seems difficult to actually see a solution to the problem of congestion and it is. Some of these problems which quite frankly there isn't a universally acceptable solution now by universally acceptable I mean one that's also politically expedient. The. Other approach is perhaps more radical on the sly road challenges for instance to charge people for the use the make of the road network but from a political point of view that's really going to be virtually impossible to introduce when it comes to toll roads what sort of evidence is there that they reduce congestion Well there's some evidence as far as the 'd I'm sick still road disk and and this evidence when you look in some other parts of the world. If you look at Singapore for example but more recently. Cities in Australia have introduced. Congestion charges and a bit like the London congestion charge and you know I might find that surprising because some perception is Australia is a huge country and a lot of space but they too have got problems in the major cities like Adelaide and Sydney and. Introduce charges and the have some impact on reducing. Ultimately peak traffic flow is the introduction of tools the only solution as far as you're concerned well no it isn't we could if with a bottomless pit we could 'd build more and more roads and we could improve the. The supply of roads in that way it's quite interesting that the in Rick's report is from a business which specializes in data around the electrics and out visual intelligence for transport and clearly. He can improve the efficiency of the transport network in a limited sort of way. I can't for the life in Missy how he can make major improvements but he can make some improvements but I am providing better encounter information and. Enable in. Military speak to those isat knobs of course to be able to READY avoid. Roads and places where there is the most serious congestion or there's been an incident in a pile up of traffic and so on yeah so actually my son if I have does that is remarkably helpful sometimes you can see the sort of estimated time of arrival increased by now where I sort of swings you off the road and suddenly goes back down again to you to get there in 20 minutes the other Saturday for example I was. On the m $62.00 and. Suddenly the ride cymbal. Which made me grow on. I'm fortunate I can get off the motorway but you know we do have the technology but that's only part of the solution. One thing that's been floated for a long time is. You know through Internet and through flexible working and so on that would be one way of trying to. At least iron out the peace and allow more a multi pl to travel I'll speak if they have to go to the place or indeed to be working at home for a day a couple of days a week that would reduce traffic flow Yeah what about things like smart motorways and things read a lot of them are in big cities where they kind of when it gets busy that or something or there's an incident are going to reduce the speed to try and keep the flow of traffic at will or to keep the traffic flowing I should say they help us resident they actually have they do help just now in other parts of the world the small motorway on the m 62 certainly increases the efficiency with which the road than that for reduces 'd journey times. Philippa so funny when I'm driving on and on a smart Mart I always feel a bit scared if something's on Tower to make out all that because it's no way to pull over. You know it can be quite dangerous and. You know to be honest not everybody keeps to the speed shown on the gantry and on the next thing is in the case I live in in the realms of the safest. Ways of improving their own brought their relatively cost efficient solution to the peak period traffic as was the kind of elephant in the room in all of this perhaps might be that some people just really rubbish at driving on busy roads Well yes he gets the people how the middle and you know them out. It. It is difficult to be critical generally of driving but of course there are always people who 'd. Sort of think they know better and you know don't be it the basic rules that apply and super following on from that and our conversation earlier about technology what would you make of the idea of driverless cars and lorries to think they could play a part in solving the problem question I'm. I'm going highly skeptical of driverless cars to be honest I just can't see it with the sheer volume of the Eccles we have a president with and you know if you look outside the u.k. If you go to. Somewhere like India or China with the sheer volume of cows and congestion they've got I just can't see it I think with a small potential when this could be and I know there are trials in this respect for 'd the 'd freight vehicles that have a good Sickles that could well be layin on the motorways and motorway type roads where the route trains of goods vehicles. Are always the Devil Driver in the front but I think the small potential lead to be only I just don't see it with the. Sounded family car if you like the nature of the interaction that we have when we drive it is you know it's very complex process we're just not sticking to main routes all the time with crisscrossing we're going on minor roads with you know a few visiting friends and relatives who live in the countryside it's just the same possibly naive you 2 to think in those so although clearly the 'd people who 'd are of the view that this could well be the future means you know when I guess when we call it. The idea of kind of driverless lorries kind of it's just a bit easy it's kind of makes me proud to be a bit you know on edge the idea that yes it 'd is it doesn't it. But if it's a way of moving goods more efficiently then not fair enough. I mean the ripple from the in rake still. About the city across of congestion and thickly businesses that rim freight co. The additional time that it spends on the road the additional to the fact that in many cases. Transporting goods to perishable. The. All the goods made. In. Trouble for. 'd 'd distribution center where they're required that's called Bamford from the University of Huddersfield talking us through just how congested the U.K.'s rules are and the research suggest woodpeckers suffer from brain damage scientists at Boston University looked at symptoms in the birds brains and found they were similar to those observed in American football players Paul Stan cliff is an ornithologist and works with the British Trust for Ornithology he spoke to 5 Live drives Tony were busy great sport of woodpecker is the most widespread woodpecker here in the u.k. And we operate a ring in Scheme. To the ring scheme for Britain an island in which wild birds are cool to ring and the oldest record we have a great spot of woodpeckers a bird that lifts 11 and a half years now that bird would have hammered into wood you know could have hammered into wood over 40000000 times during its last lifetime sighing you know if it's getting damaged you think it might not live 11 and a half years yet so do you don't buy into this and you know. It's not that I don't buy into I think it's very interesting research you know they're looking at the scientists of look to the build up of the Tao protein in the brain and a build up of Tao protein in the human brain is a sign of brain damage. From not sure it's absolutely safe to assume that a buildup of the tail protein in woodpecker brain you know is the same. It could serve a different purpose we had a text here that I don't know if this is true you might know woodpeckers don't get concussion because their skulls are made of bone in a honeycomb structure that actually absorbs the shock they have lots of adaptations that's one of them so they got the shock absorbing bio absolutely right they also have a specially adapted Hoyer we buy in that wraps around the skull to stop it moving around and the tongue is a really long tongue in a woodpecker And that wraps in a sheath around the brain as well so there's a number of out at Washington's. Told me so that really really long and it wraps around the brain in a sheath internally internally while while packing while packing Yeah you know the last fight up patients to Qana stop the brain rattling around that's incredible how long's the tone how it varies with species but it can be $34.00 times the length of the school and the beak so you know. 56 inches long in some species credible and so they 12000 times a day they pick the water they can do and it's 50 miles an hour as well that some creature just remind me this one of the one of the bottom of my garden banging away at the moment Paul is that it's a mating call is it yeah I mean woodpeckers don't have a song like you know you my hair robin sing in the garden or song through right now they begin to tune up for the spring woodpeckers drum that's how they advertise for their you know for a mate and and to maintain their territory to turn all the woodpeckers to back off you know prevent them from stealing the territory and they they find a really resonant piece of wood Yes the same piece of wood every year. It's clearly a really good piece of what this this you know the drumming sound the Carnot critter sound that they're making echoes a long way and the further echoes the better because you know the more woodpeckers you hear it yeah so essentially when we hear a wood package we should be sad because it's not going to make it not necessarily It might have a mate but it's also telling other woodpeckers that want. Come in harder still that might all steal the territory that this is their package so it serves 2 purposes it attracts a mate and it maintains the territory post time Cliff an ornithologist they're trying to toil of super earlier on 5 life it's 132 form digital online smartphones and tablets this is b.b.c. 5 live with b.b.c. News here's Joe Hornby. Prices in the u.s. Have plunged by more than $1100.00 points in the biggest one day fall in financial history the Dow Jones index closed 4.6 percent lower stagecoaches contractor on the East Coast Main Line rail franchise will end earlier than expected as the government says it got its numbers wrong but that will be no impact on services Public Health England says it wants a cigarettes to be prescribed on the n.h.s. Within the next 2 to 3 years it says they're an excellent way to help smokers quit and the research suggests drivers in the u.k. Wasted on average 31 hours in rush hour traffic last year the government says it's investing record amounts improving rates shot down Eunice Joel has the support under pressure Chelsea boss son Tony accounts a says he takes responsibility for the 2nd heavy Premier League defeat in a row going down for want of what food straight after a 3 nil loss to Bournemouth I don't know why but it happened. For sure it would happen he said his type situation or the forty's is the coach because maybe I made a bad decision today was that the limit for a simple Chelsea went down to 10 men after back Yoko was sent off after 30 minutes and conceded a penalty before being punished by 3 late goals by want food but on days opposite number though the complete opposite failing have a cross the a couldn't have enjoyed his 1st home game in charge of what food more forgettable. A great victory great might. Of my players. I'm very happy for our fans enjoy these this victory the Premier League is considering introducing a winter break when a new t.v. Deal is next agreed talks have been ongoing for several months and are understood to have been constructive the body which represents referees has defended John Moss' decision to award Tottenham's controversial 1st penalty against Liverpool on Sunday but the p g m o l says the ref was misguided to ask the 4th official for help using television while deciding how he came miss the 1st spot kick but went on to score a 2nd penalty to level the game to 2 it's understood Bondy boss pull hacking bottom will be appointed as the new Leeds manager within the next 24 hours it follows the sacking of Thomas Christiansen to rugby union and England scrum half Ben Youngs has been ruled out of the 6 Nations with a knee injury picked up in the opening win over Italy Chris Jones has more the ruptured ligaments in Young's is left need not only rule him out of the rest of the championship but probably the season as well a cruel blow for the scrum half he's been involved in the last $76.00 Nations but it presents a significant opportunity to Richard Wigglesworth who will make his 1st appearance since 2015 against Wales on Saturday Eddie Jones has shown total faith in Youngs and Danny Kaye in his time in charge but now the 34 year old brother is worth can prove there still legs left in his Test career with the World Cup 20 months away and us Latics Well Cup will be held in London this summer the touring 8 nations including Britain and the United States for the same weekend in July as the World Cup final in Russia and the Wimbledon finals but the British Athletics chief executive nails Deval says the events won't clash well of this is a global event it's happening in London but of course ours in the evenings although it is the Wimbledon the World Cup final but the finish before our event starts if you're in America the times are better for you if in China the times but if you if you're in the u.k. Let's. We can all sit around watching them win the World Cup and then stay tuned in what Great Britain when the athletics will come to just be brilliant and Formula One is to replace grid girls with a new program called great kids this season young drivers will be used instead of female models. Governor Sonny Birmingham and today I'm standing here in Belfast standing in the shadow of Edinburgh Carson City former university say come 1st Mrs Fidler we are not sure the sex is on we don't know what difference it just seems like economics to strike trade deals across the world just. To think this is. Exactly what the case thinks unseals. Is a recipe for disaster. Life cross the u.k. This is b.b.c. 5. Good morning is Khalil McDonald with you this morning is 137100 years ago this week most women in the u.k. Were given the right to vote the representation of the People Act of 1800 allowed women over the age of 30 who owned property or remarried to a man who owned property to take part in elections for the 1st time the anniversary is being commemorated throughout the country as well as here on 5 life Helen I'm traverses the museum curator at the People's History Museum in Manchester and Earlier I asked her how important this anniversary is well it's incredibly important because it's the anniversary as all men and some women being able to sew and after years of campaigning and I see is demanding reform still stay in many different way from militancy and through kind of peaceful petition so we finally won for women everywhere and it was quite a big movement obviously as you say the West many many years we talk about the Pankhurst a lot being kind of crucial to the way the women won the vote and as you say men as well but particular women won the vote but put into contact. The sort of scale of this movement it was a massive movement and it went from Shetland right down to call the I Will branches of the w.s.p. Which that was the the suffragette movement but also the suffragist movement which bit which was law abidin and not actually had the biggest number of branches that were over 600 branches of this all to my face and which was massive here women everywhere where can cost middle class about the class milk factory girls were all involved in this movement to begin. So the Maison actually began in $867.00 the set of a suffrage society was set up in Manchester. Where incidentally also the 1st women woman as a voted and she was called Lily Maxwell and she voted after 10 Amos accidentally pull on the electoral roll 867 say Manchester was a real hope and high if suffrage movement riot on its stars every stand and then it was in $190.00 c. When it kind of got a 2nd wave with the women social and political union which was formed by the punk tests in Manchester but it was really in response to the you know. We've seen to reform acts by this point more more men were able to vote but women who would tax playlists and you know property own as real contributes to society still when given not right so along comes all these women he starts fight against than really push for the freedoms that everyone had the basic right to and when you see fights against some of that was literal for me well yeah I love a little it were the tactics a little questionable do you think they were questionable boys just look in and put into context really of what they were doing and it was out of desperation I wanted to share kind of sacrifices that they thought needed to be made for them to be head you know Emily and frank as Frank famously said deeds not words and that was taken very very literally by so many as suffrage as he did go and carry out the often attacks and acts of terror and it's you know we shouldn't shy away from that they did do bad things and we can kind of and he's it. Because they were fighting for something that was right they carried out a love such as devastating attacks waylaid but what else could they do they would be injured nights so you know they were asking for so little so it's no wonder really I think the love the women thought that that would be the way to win the voice like allow that voice to be had I think it's interesting as well of course that 118 vote for women came with conditions was until 120 I think it was cool cool to use that right yeah absolutely so only some women could get the vote if you were overset say and if you had a property qualification you were able to vote now at this is very very difficult because a lot of Western Cross women who really made up some of the foot soldiers of the campaign as it were the ones he went out on the marches he would go out protest and he would carry out a lot of the militant attacks as well had false all the time and still when able to vote so it really did exclude some of the most some of the people he needed to vote the most I think the most been so infuriating for them for stressing it must've been massively infuriating but what's great is that women don't stop that and it's a lesson I think we've carried by old over the last 100 years that you don't stop once you think you've won a little bit you carry on and you carry on and a lot of those women did a lot of women who then went on to become M.P.'s such as Elmo consent he was and the m.p. From Middlesbrough at the time and it started out as a sophist a month just to women like carried on fighting for wishing cause women to win the vote for full in front tribesmen for all. We were hearing as well in the program tonight from Holly Lynch deliberate n.p. For how effective she was telling us earlier those around a 3rd night of M.P.'s in Parliament are women so there's still progress to be made and the representation of women absolutely that's massive progress that still needs to happen and we need full representation and full equality in pollen for all and you know we we need to think about that in the Thames with the rest of Parliament you know we still not got any try. And he's We still don't have a representative for Sion as b m e m p So we need to really look and who is he's acting as all valise and just because we all have a vote doesn't necessarily mean we have all voices heard in Paula men and it's a fight that really needs to carry on and I hope that we look at the sound of a survey and use it as inspiration to carry on fight in spot full representation what form does not fully take what you do quite well I think we've seen an incredible examples of it over the past he has I mean for me the women's motto is one of the most inspiring and empower and kind acts of protest and campaign knocks we've seen in a long time and I think that sells message as strength in unity which you know this disaffected campaign is new and we know today is an incredible way of demonstrating you know protest and fighting against self social injustice what you're doing then the People's History Museum will support the chemical commemorations. Well we've got an incredible not only to celebrate and a festival an incredible year of celebrations Pons 2018. This week will be celebrated by having people if I and members of the public come to the museum tomorrow and I had a line into our new representation of the people like so we want people to say what they would want to see now if the representation of the p. Flats have to and again a 100 years on we have an incredibly Funtastic exhibition opening in June called represent myself and to get on which again with telling the story of the suffrage meeting with telling the story of what's happened over the last 100 years and we were doing a massive call out any member of the public who has a story about inequality all representation we ask and send their stories to will send that objects to us so we can put those in the exhibition as well and to really say pull out the I did it we haven't worn everything this still decide to go on and still inequality. Taishan and we've got our incredible suffrage bonnets on display as well and really encourage everyone to come down to see them that truly inspire and really show the power of the campaign a 100 years ago it's interesting the idea of what people would like to see if the representation of the people that were being written today will sort of things are people coming up with what it when they're writing their lines to that and while it's happening tomorrow so as not to see that I really think that all the things I challenge in this idea of female M.P.'s in Parliament and challenge in you know the full representation in parliament but also that the things that were seen in the last chamber of of of women freedom and I was seeing the times of amazement and so forth and I really feel like things like that will be very very present and in fact I think it will really evoke decided that we haven't won yet and what can we do next and that the things I'd like to set like see women coming out and empowering themselves and being inspired to go and use not only that value so that voice to champion all these different things but saws in Polman into their M.P.'s but also in society as well as Helen Andrew bus from the People's History Museum in Manchester later on the program we'll hear from Holly Lynch labor m.p. Who was elected at the age of 28 at the suffragist and suffragette movement for them and the representation of the people x. Coming in 100 years ago this week so more on that later on and right now I'd always get the latest stories from Turkey Laura Wells joins us a lot oh hello and we're starting north Syria actually after the does battles in the in the region there are heating up and it's after Turkey started so operation against the Kurds and also months instantly after ISIS of the declared ISIS have been defeated what's going on. A lot is going on the entire northwest region in the past 2 weeks it's really heated up and particularly in the past week what we saw 16 days ago was Turkey's operation olive branch where it includes 10000 Turkish back Syrian rebel fighters and the army it has been targeting African which is occupied by Syrian Kurds there which the Turkish government says are terrorists linked to the k.k.k. The group that they're fighting in Turkey. So we've seen a lot of casualties that the Turkish government on Monday declared that $950.00 terrorists have been neutralized and dozens of areas and $21.00 villages had been in their words freed the Cern Observatory for Human Rights is saying that over 100 Syrian rebel fighters have been killed. And about $100.00. Fighters as well and the observatory also says 21 Turkish soldiers have died as well as 68 civilians including 21 children there have been protest over the weekend in African continuing to Monday and they're asking for the e.u. The u.n. And the United States to intervene and stop what they call Turkey's aggression. For the past few days there been videos also of Syrian Kurdish fighters blowing up Turkish tanks and much of the Turkish press was saying that these were u.s. Supplied although they are not any u.s. Troops in the area there were Russian troops there until the operation started at which point Russia removed them at least Turkish press is saying that in one instance the anti-tank missile system that was used to blow up a tank was actually made by the Soviet Union there's also been a lot of videos shared online of what they are saying is. Needle ation of corpses including a Kurdish female fighter square Turkey maintains that she was a suicide bomber and those on the ground including her family say that she did lower self up but only not to be captured when she realized there was no way out there's on Monday there's been another video posted of Turkish soldiers allegedly abusing a credit card ish prisoner of war and Monday Iran who did agree to Operation olive branch urged Turkey to stop its operation saying it breached Syrian sovereignty and could bring back in security and stability or instability and terrorism in Syria this will lead to Turkey to begin the offensive against the Kurds. Well they've maintained from the very beginning that this group is a terrorist group and the p.k. K. Which they've been fighting for about for decades on Turkish soil is a Syrian Kurdish separatist military group and it's claimed the lives of over 40000 people it is still ongoing in Turkey and really not even a week passes without some episodes and news of casualties when the Kurds started taking over parts of the North Syrian Turkish border they they actually have set up a government on about 2 thirds of the string a Turkish border Turkey is specially president who once said that they would never allow a Kurdish state on their border so this is something they've said that they will be doing continuing until the ones where it's each and every terrorist that has been pushed back. Elsewhere than the Netherlands has officially withdrawn its ambassador from Turkey why they don't that. Well this is been ongoing since March of 2017 and you might remember that Turkish officials tried to campaign for the the referendum in which just change the form of government and the Constitution from a parliamentary one to an executive presidential one and both the president other Turkish officials were very active in trying to campaign around the e.u. Where many are still Czech us citizens and it ended very poorly and March of 2017 the Netherlands did not allow the foreign minister who insisted on holding campaign rallies there and they even did not allow his plane to land at which point the family minister had been holding campaign rallies in Germany and she sneaked over the border into Rotterdam and she would not turn back she said that she was going to hold a rally there were Turkish Dutch there that had gathered because the foreign minister had called every Turkish citizen in the Netherlands to gather and she ended up having her car compounded and she was deported and this was really a diplomatic crisis the Turkish government sense has not allowed the ambassador Kornel us band reach to return to Turkey at the time he was on vacation and on Monday the Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Netherlands said there was a positive negotiations because we have not agreed on how to Norm ties so this is something that. Is very disappointing between 2 countries have who have had ties friendly ties for reported years when Turkey used to be the Ottoman Empire the result do you think. Well certainly the e.u. Is disappointed that this is happened. One source for b.b.c. Turkish said that the sticking point was each side believed they were owed a public apology and neither would agree at the time in March of 2017 this was something that was demanded by both sides. And it's really hard to tell perhaps economics one thing which is interesting since the Netherlands has a relative tax haven for companies. Much of foreign direct investment comes from the Netherlands even the Prime Minister's sons have a company that is registered there. That that's something that present one usually responds to but an absence of that seems only time at this point or perhaps an apology at some point Meanwhile everyone was this and Pope Francis in the Vatican on Monday and he said that he would not kept its promises and said it was blocking Turkey accession process and she asked the e.u. To keep its promises but you know frankly with many of the e.u. Countries the relationship between Turkey and many of them like the Netherlands other this is the most dire case diplomatically at this point have been deteriorating for the past few years we've been discussing women's suffrage in the program and will be again later tell us about a pretty extraordinary demonstration in Iran. Certainly it's been something that has been going on in a very small way in a rather quiet way since the spring of 2017. When the protests all over the country started and late December of 2017 we saw an iconic image of a woman taking off her headscarf in Tehran amidst the crowds. Now she. Moba head she was detained and does remain in prison she has a 19 month old. That is residing with a family they've been continuing despite what are some serious penalties for these women although Tehran just about a month ago said that they would no longer be arresting women that took off their headscarf but instead they would be sending them to government sponsored education . The the Iranian government said late last week that they had arrested 29 women who had removed their headscarf and with the hash tag white Wednesdays we have seen this all over social media women who have have taken off their headscarf usually individual way in public places and then they wave their headscarf oftentimes white. And even iconic image of a very very old woman who was hunched over taking her headscarf off and waving it with her cane. But those that are supporting this movement say they're not going to stop despite these arrests because they do not want to be told what to wear by the government Laura thank you so much Laura Wells reporting with news from Turkey and surrounding region as well from there let's go to Carol in serving from USA Today to find I was making headlines in the states Hello Carolyn. Callum Hines to be with you and thank you thanks very much for joining us as we start the program this morning chatting about the stock market in the u.s. And the message from our guest was very much don't panic are you kind of running with the same message. Oh are we are we have quite a going to get really bad because everybody is sitting here. I have states around the kitchen table going well well now what do we do that's up you know we're trying to answer that question for everybody and the experts that we've talked to you are telling our reporters you know don't panic exactly what you said and consider buying the dip so you know as prices if they stay low you know everybody wishes they could go back to March to 2009 when everything which is why rock bottom and go back and put every everything they own into that day you know so then we've also got wait and watch and then realize that the sell off may be a blip so we're trying to reassure our our readers tomorrow it was difficult because it was quite a dramatic and everywhere I've been reading is describing it as a plum you know dramatic drop everybody's talking up a big dip is it's difficult to not panic I guess yeah he really is I mean you have to just trust in the fundamentals of the economy which are still strong and then you know we haven't even seen. The impact of the tax bill and what's going to happen with a tax cut that should help a lot of companies with great earnings that you know through you know for the rest of the year and so one of the funniest descriptions I heard today was a waterfall crash yet. To do with that whatever that leaves. You know what we call it for the rest of the program that's great thank you very much. Away from that the Winter Olympics are nearly upon us and I think you've got a profile of a skier with USA Today. Yeah are you a fan of the Olympics I do love the Olympics I remember Salt Lake City a few years ago staying up very late to watch the Carling because we were doing pretty well curling I think the u.k. . And that was my that's probably my 1st memory really of watching the Winter Olympics to be honest but I'm looking forward to it although I'm not sure the Times will allow us to enjoy much of it here. You know where we've got 50 people in or out if they're not already there so we were having wall to wall coverage of the Olympics but this is the story they were running tomorrow is about Lindsey Vonn and how she is maybe one of the best downhill skiers of all time and how she's going into Chang just really at the peak she's won 5 of her last a races including. Downhills over the weekend and now she just needs 5 more wins to matching them are staying large all time World Cup record so she is really hitting it at just the right time so it's a really good look at her and how she's just she's addicted to the speed when she gets down the bottom of the hill crash she's got a big smile on her face. One more that we can just squeeze and evil must planning to drive a Tesla to Mars to which my immediate response as well as the r.c. Is what else would you expect. I know that they're really this is a really cute story but in the very thing if I got launch tomorrow this Falcon Heavy rocket is going to go off at the Kennedy Space Center tomorrow and it is going to be a really great launch to watch and be there or it's going to be a real rumble in people's chest and he has strapped one of his Tesla Roadster is to the top of this rocket and he you know is shooting into space and it's got a it has a a dummy writing in a spacesuit I mean the whole thing you got a story it's crazy that's incredible it's going to be able to recharge in space the electric Tesla will be able to plug in somewhere that's just going to plug in like Florida are Jupiter's on the eyes and you. Must go oh my goodness well thank you very much Carolyn that's great that's Carolyn Serban bringing us the headlines from USA Today and after 2 o'clock actually we'll be discussing the week in u.s. Politics and yet again what a week it's been some of the topics the f.b.i. Versus Donald Trump just a small battle going on there on the chance of the country facing a government shutdown again remember this one last month plus after 230 you can hear the latest edition of game is coming up at 2 o'clock. This.