I don't welcome to News Hour from the B.B.C. World Service coming to you live from London I'm James Kamar Sami in a moment we'll be going to Delhi and Islam about as tension in the disputed territory of Kashmir grows also the lunatic line that was the name that was given to the original railway built across Kenya by the British and not everyone thinks that a new railway line will be much better it's a white elephant We don't need it is the most expensive single predictor of Dan and it's not economically viable now in the future and. This is the kinks and dedicated follower of fashion eagerly pursuing all the latest fads and trends there but who should be leading the agenda is a glossy magazines or fashion bloggers. We begin though with the sound of sabers being rattled in the disputed and highly volatile region of Kashmir India and Pakistan have argued over its sovereignty for decades today they're arguing over the military action that was taken overnight by India along the line of control which separates the 2 parts of Kashmir which are administered by the regional deeply arrivals 2 weeks after militants attacked an Indian military base in the Kashmiri town of Gori killing 18 soldiers the Indian army says it has carried out surgical strikes on militant positions across the Line of Control left in a general Ranveer Singh is India's director general of military operations P S 2 on very specific and credible information which we received yesterday that some of this teams had positioned themselves in fact launch pads along the line of control. With an aim to carry out in preparation and did this strikes in Jim went bush meat and video of the metro's in our country. The Indian Army conducted 30 strikes last night at these launch pads. The hope regions but busy could be focused to ensure that these terrorists do not succeed in their design of infiltration and getting out destruction and endangered the lives of citizens of our country. Well Pakistan has condemned what it called an unprovoked attack in which it says that 2 of its soldiers were killed the Pakistani defense minister who watch a safe had this response. Bad may Durata you know. This episode occurred in the early morning and they have done this in a very deliberate and pre-planned manner yet they were saying these things for the last few days to satisfy their people and the media and that's why they have made this attempt with God's grace we have given an appropriate response and God willing if they violate the line of control again the Pakistan army will give an appropriate response when we asked for a response from both the Pakistani and the Indian governments but neither of them were able to give someone for interview this is all happening of course at a time when Indian administered Kashmir has been experiencing several weeks of violence and seen dozens of deaths and demonstrations which followed the killing there of a popular militant by Indian forces where we're going to hear from Islamabad later in the program but we can cross now to Delhi and speak to the B.B.C.'s Zubair mate who's in the Indian capital what is actually known about the strikes Well the officials have not given many details in India they have been claimed by India but they have been come to claims by Pakistan what we know is that some kind of action took place after midnight. This morning early this morning by Indian soldiers across the Line of Control that divides the disputed territory of Kashmir India calls it surgical strikes but we don't know how many people were killed soldiers were killed and civilians were killed how deep inside the Pakistani territory Indian soldiers went in who they engaged with we don't really know but Pakistan has reacted by saying it was a routine exchange of fire between the 2 armies which. Often happens on the line of control since 948 when the 2 armies came face to face the Pakistani Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif has condemned what he called the attack and called it unilateral aggressive act his statement suggested that 2 Pakistani army soldiers were killed we had there from the Pakistani defense minister talking about an appropriate response is there a sense that the the rhetoric and attention is being ratcheted up I think so. I also spoke to couple of officials in Pakistan and they say there have been maintaining maximum restraint but when the time is right they will also respond to Indian action but so far. There has been euphoria in India there was a pressure a lot of pressure. Mr Morsi was facing after the recent tax in which 18 Indian soldiers were killed that India should take retaliatory action and now that the Indian government has announced surgical strikes people are happy but of course the Indian Army officials have also said that they're ready for any action from the side of Pakistan and they stand quite a lot of Pakistanis talking about this is just routine cross border skirmishes What do people in India think is happening at the moment it comes in the context of the unrest in Indian administered Kashmir are these 2 lines if you like of violence being linked in India. Well if you look at social media in India you will find people are congratulating each other they are congratulating the Indian army and the Indian prime minister. Even the opposition leaders are busy trying to you know . Talking nicely about the Indian army but of course there are some people who are suggesting that this is good or only be an act by the Indian government to. Pander to the media and also to the people who wanted some kind of action against Mike is that this may not necessarily be a surgical strike that this could also be just a kind of exchange of fire across on the L.L.C. But the way the media is receiving the information everybody seems to be very happy Zubair thanks very much the B.B.C.'s about Ahmed there in the Indian capital Delhi we will be hearing from our correspondent in Islamabad a bit later on in the program and if you want to get more insight into the complexities of the disputed Kashmir I'd strongly recommend you download the podcast of last week's edition of NEWS HOUR extra with my colleague I mean Bennett joins. There are only 6 countries in the world where abortion is completely illegal where a woman can be prosecuted for having a terminations in whatever the circumstances one of those countries is Chile and the country's 1st ever woman president is trying to change that now by introducing a bill that would allow abortion under certain circumstances but in a conservative and religious country Michelle Bachelet is facing tough opposition from Santiago research Acrobat he reports to the president of Chile at an event in downtown Santiago to confound gender stereotypes. Michelle Bachelet in both eyes what she's promoting she leads a country that remains dominated by men and she's made to criminalizing abortion commission I believe that. Women should have legally they will civility of making their own choices in this country until now this is criminal act if you interrupt your pregnancy. It will you will go to jail and I believe this is not fair I think women should have the possibility of making their own choices. Among Chile appears sophisticated and liberal here in the capital you see gay couples holding hands and a strong alternative street culture but some old attitudes enjoy abortion here is completely banned forcing women sometimes into terrible dilemma. By how and Andre are in their early forty's and both have palmed pregnancies but they were carrying fetuses which had no chance of survival neither was allowed an abortion even though Andrea's life was under threat doctors told power to pray both had to carry their babies for months and give birth to them without any hope they'd live and. I felt just like a song like The Walking Dead who just had to get up every day without wanting to live it was torture less. Than a bit of the For my part I feel powerless having to live this process after having my torture to tear. I suffer unnecessarily not just me and my family as well until this day previous governments have tried to liberalize the law but President Bachelet bill has already gone much further down the legislative process than any before I told her what happened to power and Andrea well liked I think it's awful it's awful because I have her friends to have gone through that process and usually it really sort of emotionally destroys the person there are some people who might be able to live with it and that's OK but there's a lot of people who really. The story emotionally afterwards and their lives are changed forever so that's why we do believe they should have the possibility to buy them on what is what they prefer. Yes. I'm here in a very busy market in Chile 2nd largest city Valparaiso there are lots of people out shopping buying fruit vegetables buying flowers is very colorful very lively that a lot of the polls here suggest that the majority of Chilean society is in favor of President Bachelet spill her bill is quite restrictive it only allows abortion cases where the pregnancy is the result of a break but the mother's life is in danger over the fetus is completely and viable . The whole is didn't lose the proposal remains very controversial and the opposition is spearheaded by the church services this is an Anglican church where typical service is much rock'n'roll is religion Catholicism remains dominant in Chile but all the churches have united against the abortion bill this is no exception with congregation members enthusiastically spilling out into the courtyard to sign a big petition against it. But. The glory of the church is a haven she had an abortion at the age of only 12 after being raped by a cousin and she's never got over it idea. Abortion sold nothing she says. Your in my case if I had a choice I would have had my daughter I mean but it wasn't by choice abortion scars you for life before and after it's cost you less negatively for life and nothing good comes out of that for sure nothing other than I want that Malar now on our now some say women's rights was sidelined in Chile as it struggled to get over its violent past on the military dictatorship of General Pinochet President Bachelet is trying to change that crucially she does have the majority of the public behind her supporting her bid to give Chile's women the choice the mothers were denied I'm the 1st female president elected them to live and I'm the 2nd president elected twice since 1920 or something like that. And for me that's why it's so important because I I really believe we need to go faster to expand women's rights Chile's president Michelle Bachelet and during that report from Santiago by Rita Chakrabarti You're listening to NEWS HOUR from the B.B.C. World Service. Coming up later on in the program the Italian prime minister who's facing a referendum of his own tells us that Britain must stick with its vote to leave the E.U. When the seizure of British people is bad the seizure in my mind and there is sad for that but if we don't accept their result of referral their escape is give them a soldier democracy is not an asset for me is a cult it and this is impossible might have the headlines at this hour the Indian army says it has launched strikes against militants along the defacto border with Pakistan in Tash Mir Pakistan says that 2 of its soldiers were killed in what it's called unprovoked aggression and Russia has accused the United States of resorting to threats and blackmail in their dispute over how to stop the war in Syria. You're listening to the B.B.C. World Service this is NEWS HOUR coming to life my studio is in London with me James Kim are some of Kenya's 1st colonial era cross country railway it was known as the lunatic line because of its high cost and the tough conditions of the workers who built it man eating lions were just $1.00 of the threats Well more than a 100 years later China is providing the money and the technology for a new multi-billion dollar line but with some of the same challenges as its predecessor is this project an entirely sane undertaking Alistair Leith and reports from Nairobi. The men who build Kenya's 1st railway more than a century ago would be amazed by the speed and the efficiency of today's mechanized trucks playing train. That piled high with preassembled sections of line picked up the mower just in front of the engine by crane and then secured the embankment the train laid the track as it rolls along back in 1906 it was a lot harder it was a feat of engineering that cost a fortune and many lives climbing up from the coast to Nairobi cutting through swamps and Savannah all the time risking malaria and lions it was dubbed the lunatic line this was their last of the Lions killed in a suburb where. The killing people didn't they local structural. And curator at Nairobi Railway Museum the money to really cause havoc in the historial a construction the lightest money to kill I don't want to get 100 people 100 by the line but total number of people died maybe because of diseases and other natural causes was 4000 people but for each of my 4 people to eat. So truly was a lunatic left in that sense and logic like you but yes. Today the cost is still astronomical Kenya's new standard gauge railway is being built by a Chinese company with billions of borrowed Chinese money which will have to be paid back critics like Economist David I think it's lunacy it's a white elephant We don't need it. It is the most expensive project in the project we've done and it's not economically viable now in the future he thinks Kenya is taking on too much debt for big projects that won't make enough to pay back the loans you're already beginning to see the impact of these borrowings on government finances debt service is going to consume almost half of it and these projects are not yet leaving any in return we are working ourselves into some kind of fiscal crisis in a couple of years. And now construction is encroaching on to Nairobi National Park where lions stalking prey with a backdrop of the city's skyscrapers they've cut across the corner here through the park and and they've put lots of pillows up in the air basically and they're going to build a railway track across the top and to the child as a tourist lodge on the edge of the park this bit of incursion into the park we were not consulted at all it was done without asking us I think it'll change the park forever it's not going to be a wild any anymore you can have a bridge across it. I think the message is to try and avoid cutting into the park any more and to go around the park on something here up on a hill overlooking this way the Nairobi National Park the sun is just setting behind the hills in the far distance and this is the route that the railway is expected to take 6 kilometers right across the middle of a park raised up on concrete pillars and although it will take 18 months to be built in 3 sections one will disrupt the wildlife in the park can you Wildlife Service say that the animals are much more resilient than you might think K.W.'s will be working with a contract to make sure that the construction will be as least disruptive as possible and as an environmentally friendly as possible Italy in Bath is director general of Kenya Wildlife Service He says other more expensive plans would permanently destroyed Parkland So we were between a rock and a hard place either give up 50 hectors increase the cost by 50 percent or have the least obtrusive bridge across the park cotillion bath either the director of Kenya's Wildlife Service sending that report by Alistair Lee thread. Scientists that Oxford University trying to find out why around 10 percent of children with HIV don't develop AIDS people without treatment have discovered that their immune systems share the same characteristics as those of monkeys which had a similar response to the virus let me hear more about the discovery and its implications from Philip gold a professor of immunology at Oxford who led the research study it was read designed to try and find out why it is that children don't regress to disease from ancient infection when in fact children generally regress much more rapidly than adults and what we found was that although they have very high levels of virus which in adults is normally associated with rapid progression to disease in these children they. They had no disease because their mean system essentially ignores the virus and doesn't make a big response to it why did that happen we don't know the fundamental reason why this 5 to 10 percent are different one of the findings that we made here was that the levels of C Z R 5 which is a receptor that lets the virus into the city for target cells the levels of C survival very low in critical cells that normally live a long time and so as a result these cells were still living a long time in these children whereas in children who progress a disease they tend to get killed by the virus so the observation is very similar in fact what is seen in the natural hosts of the monkey version of HIV in more than 40 species of monkey in Africa who have hundreds of thousands of years and lived quite happily with as I've interaction without any disease and they seem to use a similar sort of mechanism so one we are now seeing in these children and as the fact that they don't progress to full blown AIDS as children necessarily mean that they might actually progress to AIDS when they're adults Well I think that they do at least I think a proportion of them certainly 2 of the children we followed as they progress towards adolescence and adolescence starts much end of the month thinks in particular in African females and this is starting so in 789 years of age so the hormones that are associated with the development of puberty have a big impact on an insistent and I think as immune system transitions from a child immune system to an adult's mean response in some cases you see progression to AIDS in these children so in terms of. The application of your findings could this lead to new immune based therapies Well that would be the hope I mean the mainstay of treatment for people with HIV infections clearly and threat from therapy not stopping people who would have developed age from developing AIDS as a result of a child the only problem with that is that although people are being successfully treated with Answer Trump therapy they're not helping AIDS their immune system is still running in overdrive relative to people who have been at H.M.P. And the results of that is that more likely to be at risk of diseases typically said to set it aging like cardiovascular disease cancers and so on and so there is a need for additional sense right from therapy to try and tweak the immune system a little bit further so it's it doesn't result in these non-agency as you noted diseases that people with H.L.V. Have even when they're on interact from therapy and that was Professor Philip gold out of Oxford University on his research into the temper central site of children with HIV who don't go on to develop AIDS you're listening to the B.B.C. World Service this is NEWS HOUR coming to you live from London. This is the B.B.C. World Service where our roots trip looking back at Barack Obama's presidency is coming to an end. Up over from Afghanistan some great photos don't change the world . It's scary to find a job to pay a decent wage for my experience to still blame for that even though the economic downturn churn away before you came in office. Or your exit a mask. Drop the basket in your head when Barack Obama was running for president the B.B.C. 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News with Kathy clubs in India says it's conducted what it calls surgical strikes against militants planning attacks from the Pakistani controlled side of the disputed territory of Kashmir no further operational details were given but Indian media reports say army commandos may have briefly crossed the line of control Pakistan has dismissed the account of surgical strikes as a fabrication saying 2 Pakistani soldiers were killed in cross border fire initiated by India. Russia has struck back at the U.S. Over its warning that it will cut all contacts on Syria if Moscow doesn't stop the government assault on rebel held eastern Aleppo the Russian deputy foreign minister denounced this as a policy of threats and blackmail in Tokyo a panel of officials has said total costs to host the 2020 Summer Olympics could surge 4 times higher than the original estimates to $29000000000.00 It has advocated scrapping the building of 3 new venues and moving some sports are tied Tokyo to save money the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas is planning to attend the funeral in Jerusalem of the veteran Israeli statesman Shimon Peres on Friday Mr Abbas is office has contacted the Israeli authorities to coordinate his attendance at the head of a Palestinian delegation the body of Shimon Peres is lying in state outside parliament Britain's international trade secretary lame Fox says he wants a post Breck's a trade environment with European countries which is at least as free as it is no Dr Fox said anything else would harm the people of Europe he was speaking in Manchester to an audience of business leaders Germany's 2nd biggest bank Comet's Bank has said it will cut about 20 percent of its workforce and withhold dividends to pay for a large restructuring correspondence a comet's bank like other German banks has been struggling because of low interest rates in the Euro Zone and tough regulation B.B.C. News. You're listening to news hour coming up next we'll have the view from Pakistan on that Indian military action in Kashmir 1st though it's our regular look at the world of business and where examining the reasons for and the possible effects of the tightening of a tap it's the top of the belongs to the oil producing countries of OPEC they've agreed to reduce their output when the price for Brant Crude the international bent benchmark for oil rose by almost 6 percent to nearly $49.00 a barrel at the knees Jeffrey Halley is market strategist with the financial markets trading company a wonder which is based in Singapore so did this move come as a surprise yes my city did. The direct opposite of the your comments that night on not Tuesday with a seat no deal was I simply going to happen by Saudi Arabia and Iran by see the same thing and now the market was completely blindsided overnight when they see that it reached a production or can't agreement which was a massive shift on the Saudi Arabia So what are the implications of this for the price of oil I just the devil will be in the days. I think it does not have a great track record of it here is a production capsule or capsule certainly some of the members don't but what makes this one different is that Saudi Arabia which normally has a feeling intractable only suspicions to Iran everything is if the picture lighted and made only concessions here they're allowing Iran Nigeria and Libya to ramp up our production so the little say feel that are appropriate and then Dale take the slack on the inside as far as the supply goes sorry that's my point one interesting but such a bold face and it was listening over the last 2 years that I can't help but feel that maybe they've actually had some soothing words from Russia imagine on our producer that they're prepared to come on board and see that if you can put a deal to get IP in you can come and talk to us and we have to pay to join a nice production cuts. So what will it mean for a country like Russia which is so dependent on oil for Russia or if it hasn't had the same fate because they have a free floating car and saints are as it really has gone down in dollars they've gone up and rules because the rules to appreciate it rushers and I must be such an economically to manage these ups and downs and the price of oil but they acknowledge that there is too much oil floating around on a yacht world markets and I think it is actually better for everybody that would like to see much higher price of oil as well because they need to fund the budget deficit and stars are most likely What about US shale gas producers they're being pretty squeezed by the Saudis continuation to produce large amounts of oil good news for them isn't it it is very much not only in part of the Saudi sherry she was actually put tell us shale out of business and to a certain extent they succeeded initially but as it were the Americans are they teens are too and of a way out of these problems and actually quite a lot of our shale oil now are unsound profitable as are the $40.00 to $50.00 range always to move up to $55.00 to $60.00 that would bring at least an eagle amount more of shale oil production back into the market at an economically viable level and that will actually act as a self-sustaining can on the oil market going forward and that was Jeffrey. You're listening to the B.B.C. World Service this is NEWS HOUR coming to you live from our studios in London with James Tamara Sammi Britain's international trade secretary Liam Fox one of the leading proponents of BRACKS It has given his 1st major speech in his new role not surprisingly he talked up Britain's global trading perspective outside the European Union well those optimism did come with a warning we were much less restricted in having to find partners who are physically close to us it's an exhilarating empowering and liberating time yet this bright future is being darkened by the shadows of protectionism and retrenchment. And history teaches us that such trends do not bode well for the future are still not clear what shape Britain's post E.U. Relationship with the rest of Europe will take but other E.U. Leaders will certainly have a say in it among the most significant of them is Italy's prime minister but to Renzi unlike the leaders of France and Germany he's not up for reelection next year so on the face of it he'll have fewer domestic distractions when formal talks begin That's not true for the next few weeks because he's called his own referendum on how Italy is governed the B.B.C.'s Europe editor Cata Adler has been speaking to Mr Renzi in Rome about that vote and the consequences of the one in Britain so what does he have to say I think before we look specifically what San Mateo N.Z. Said I think we should look at the context which is that while we're in this holding pattern where the British people have voted to leave the E.U. But Britain has not formally triggered negotiations yet we're seeing key European figures lining up and sending warning signals to the U.K. Saying you know you're not going to get a special deal with us when you leave the E.U. But a lot of this you can view it in the context of political jousting before real talks begin and there are very few people privy to those behind closed doors talks and thoughts on brick set that we really get access to and one of them now is Italy's Prime Minister Matteo Renzi So when I sat with him in the chandelier palettes all Keady which is a sleaze equivalent of Number 10 Downing Street I asked him 1st what his initial response was back on the 23rd of June when he heard that the majority of British voters wanted to leave the E.U. These was the 1st reaction shock shock to be clear in our mind that every seeing is totally collective with U.K. The people of U.K. . This side of the new way for the future. Now the situation is that we can. And then we have to build the best alliance between you key and the new for the future because we will be the best friends for the next years either the same time I think this is the seizure could push European leaders to invest in a new way for Europe to think that mall should have been done to try to keep the U.K. On board because you said you couldn't imagine an interview with that U.K. Now you are going to have an event at U.K. Shouldn't more have been done I tried we did there are articles with the E.U. . With the political process but they with the care of the side to use referendum to solve a problem of the Conservative Party this was the problem. We cannot use. They're foreign affairs to saw the problems with the seizure of British people is a BAD The seizure in my mind and they sad for that but if we don't accept the result of referral there is care is give them a soldier vote is not a good thing democracy is not possible for Mrs Condit and this is impossible so I think it's definitely going to happen for me yes but one thing that is definitely going to happen is a referendum in Italy tell us more about that here in Rome you can't avoid the subject actually you know I was passing cafes that got radiation televisions blaring and it's all referendum referendum referendum and materials he launches his campaigning for this referendum which is going to be held in December tonight so Thursday night and the reason why it's causing such a stir is less the subject matter which is constitutional reform but more the fact that it's so closely associated with him it's seen as ren sees referendum and materials he was never elected into government he came in a sort of a palace coup within his own party so this is the 1st time that Italian voters have had a chance to vote on him about him and if he doesn't win this referendum he will very likely have to stand down even though he says he wants to streamline and reform the political system that's what this referendum is about he could end up shortening and his political career so I asked him you know holding a referendum looking at what happened back in the U.K. For him personally isn't it too politically risky I know in 2016 expression referendum we're in it's a risk but Jokes apart I believe this is a great challenge here for Italian people because these constitutional reform reduce the return of bureaucracy give stability to your Italian institution side only. Solve the problem our really should be tween central government the local authorities saw for a lot of reasons this is a great challenge for Italian people as I'm not Ward we went back a few months and David Cameron wasn't worried he must have told you if you Summit I'm not worried about the referendum in the U.K. And look what happened to him he lost and his political career was finished. Thank you so much for his. Work and I your book I hope of the result there will be different but I think this is a very different era friend and I think this is a very great opportunity for us citizens to reduce the big costs of the politicians to reduce the level of bureaucracy entirely saw. Also populists will vote for our position isn't there a risk though that the Italian people won't vote on the referendum question you know we've seen in so many European countries we look over the Atlantic to the United States there are more and more angry people people who feel they've been left behind and who are angry at the establishment and even though your name is that a lot of them I thought a the demolition man you want to change Italy but you sitting here you were part of that establishment the risk is Italians may just vote against you as part of what they see as an elite This is a risk it's clear he's cool but at the same time there is a question. The question of the is do you wards reduce the establishment I flee the real decision for the establishment or will be vote yes or quite counter-intuitive in many ways a sitting prime minister saying that a vote in a referendum the way he wants it is a vote against the establishment How's it looking for him at this stage Well I mean when you hear matter in descending so confident and I couldn't help think. You know Haven't you been looking at the polls because at the moment it's really too close to call and you know the danger from Ontario N.Z. Is that like we've seen in other European countries as we're seeing across the Atlantic in the United States there is an ever growing section of the public who are just angry they feel left behind and they feel ignored by the establishment and if they associate that with Matteo Renzi and they may vote against him. That was our Europe editor Kathy Adler in Rome. Let's return to our top story now the Indian army says its launch strikes against militants along the defacto border with Pakistan in Kashmir Pakistan has said that 2 of its soldiers were killed in what it is calling on provoked aggression was a while ago Pakistan Foreign Office spokesman Nafisa Korea told a news conference in Islamabad that India was stoking tensions in their activities this morning to. Try to do. All sorts of receptivity. To peace in the region the prime minister condemning the. Unprovoked. Breach of the enemy which exist which existed between the exist between the 2 countries. To whether it's control or Joining us now from Islamabad is our correspondent there Sharma how little and just put into context what those comments were about well these particular come home to comments were about the SAARC so much that was meant to happen in Pakistan in November that's the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation and what happened was that India pulled out and as a result the number of other nations pulled out and we heard an announcement that this was postponed and the 4 ministry spokesman was just was describing this as an active sabotaging the environment of peace but also responding to. A journalist questions about the latest active escalation on the line of control as well and we heard a Pakistani army defense minister he was really sorry the Pakistani army could give an appropriate response any idea what that. Well look I mean we been hearing both the military and the civilian leadership search their preparedness the readiness to respond to any act of Indian aggression and mind you there's been a kind of like a war of words and definitions and descriptions about exactly what happened on the line of control India describes it as a surgical strike Pakistan says that's not that wasn't a strike it was unprovoked aggression it was cross border fire but the fact of the matter is that this is escalation on the line of control in a very very sensitive area that India has been quite open about saying that it has done and we've heard from the foreign ministry further statement saying you know we can assure India that any such aggression will not go on and search or unpunished They also went on to say Pakistan is ready to defend its people and terror treat from any Indian aggression or Indian state sponsored terrorism as they put it's really really strong words but we pushed the Foreign Ministry spokesman and we tried to get any details about the kind of military build up at the Pakistan. Is putting into the line of control and we still haven't heard what the details of that are helps that comes the Sharma It's not that long ago that the Indian promised in or under Modi made a surprise visit to Lahore to visit no i Sharif Happy Birthday lots of goodwill around I mean that was last year one of things deteriorated so much it's so interesting and it was described at the time as a Christmas miracle I remember reporting on that for Afghanistan actually because he passed by Afghanistan and then made a surprise visit to India to Pakistan on his way back to India we look things have deteriorated because to be honest things are quite cyclical in the way that India and Pakistan relations go we've heard so many times that there is going to be a warming of relations that there is a and Memorandum of Understanding between the 2 countries and then you you know you get these attacks and then the ratcheting up of of rhetoric Mind you this. Particularly tension happens at a very very tense time in Indian administered Kashmir we've had violence that has lasted for weeks this has been used by Pakistan to say Look India is escalating things on the line of control India is doing all of this to divert international attention of what is happening so you have claims and counter-claims between the 2 countries what is also interesting is just comparing those to the stupes States or the state you know the stews status of Indian and Pakistani relations it was interesting that right after this a visit by Narendra Modi a surprise visit this there was an attack in petang court and at that time Pakistan said we're willing to cooperate we'll send an investigation team this time however you get a very very different rhetoric SHAIMA thanks so much I'm a how little there our correspondent in is. To Stay with us here on the B.B.C. World Service You're listening to news. Now here's a look at what's coming up here on the B.B.C. World Service. 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Seems that the rhetorical knives are being sharpened in one corner of the world of fashion certainly if this quote is anything to go by it's like going to a strip club looking for romance sure it's all in the same kind of ballpark but it's not even close to the real thing one that was a verdict of the fashion editor of Vogue dot com on some of the bloggers who it seems were stealing the show at the Milan Fashion Week by sharing pictures of the clothes that they were wearing and which were provided free by certain brands in many cases they're accused of diverting attention away from the catwalk or another vote colleague described the bloggers actions as quote heralding the death of style but bloggers one of whom appeared on the cover of the Spanish edition of Vogue last year have been hitting back calling those attitudes typical of an industry that despite its name isn't really keeping up with the times or Joining us to discuss this is Sasha Wilkins a former fashion editor of The Wall Street Journal she began blogging 10 years ago and founded the fashion and lifestyle blog liberty London girl dot com And we're joined on the line by Lisa Armstrong who is a fashion editor for The Daily Telegraph Sasha 1st of all what do you make of all this I think the comments were exceptionally ill judged there are parts of it which I think I could agree with the fashion shows have turned from an insider's. Almost like a trade conferences have his folks not widgets into this huge carnival of photography and attendees dressing up to the show and I think it can get extremely aggravating and some people who get a 3rd class taken actually aren't very stylish but the level of vitriol that these edits has decided to unleash upon bloggers I thought was quite extraordinary and exceptionally illinformed they kept the same woman who talked about strip clubs also said that it was particularly gross the whole pair whole practice of paid appearances and borrowed outfits well. Last time I checked out it was a boring place left right and center they were giving discounts they were given gifts to be one north of Vogue and one for everybody else Lisa I'm so what do you think double standards yes a bit but I think what this really I mean it's a very inside a story and it's interesting how it sort of gang traction I think it shows that the sort of nor an insecurity that's eating through the whole fashion industry because you know we know collections are down appetising is under attack and then you get these bloggers which is quite a generic term Now that doesn't necessarily mean that much and not all of them are all read some of them don't actually have blogs and by the way Sasha is in a totally different league from from the ones we're talking about I love her I love course she does and she doesn't go to the shows and sort of Popinjay outside the scene outside is it is quite it lays all of human frailty bare and a bit disturbing to say is disturbing because you know it is not a system gone silly people because I maybe I can just set the scene a little bit such as right used to be very closed like a trade sort of conference and you know it was a bit stultifying to be honest and I always thought even when I was younger keep doing it God I wish more people could see this because it's amazing but what's happened now is you get hundreds of people outside who may not even have been invited they're just chances Yes Fine OK you know equal opportunities and all that but they operating up and down in ludicrous outfits that make you feel sort of embarrassed for womankind this because they're just waiting to be photographed and also there is no discernment in what gets veteran know this because occasionally by accident aka photograph I mean say you know I might be wearing a mask backwards as far as and one photographer route will rush up and take a picture and then suddenly all surrounded by fish. Because they have this terrible fear of missing out on some picture and what is happening is that the telegraph when we're looking at pictures of style you know genuinely heat eloquent women who are readers which relate to we can't find those pictures anymore because it's filled with crazy peacocks and transparent dresses with nickel tassels that sort of 11 o'clock in the morning so Sasha is there an element of snobbery in this no I mean I would agree with Lisa to do agree when I don't think Nice try either going to have a catfight about this is people think fasciitis is like today because I think we roughly do agree on this one of the problems with the rise of street style was that photographers don't like people wearing black which is pretty much been your change a habit a lifetime for most editors maybe Navy for feeling a bit frisky and the photographs that do well are brightly colored they're strong silhouette and the girls who wear those clothes often have nothing to do with national style the not really wearing current right about you I mean obviously this is a visual issue we're talking about but it's also about the writing isn't it it's also about how young people are finding out about fashion and whether there's a little bit of snobbery not least not it's 2 separate things when I conflated it in the story they conflated the pop in Jay's shows which I think everyone's fed up with and then they got down and dirty and nasty about the way in which we run our businesses and you feel that such because I don't I didn't feel that I may be a raging out mystic but I think there's room for all of us I mean I work at The Telegraph which is 161 years old but we're also tweeting Instagram ing blocking Facebook Live think Good grief you know we can do or there is and Sasha writes long pieces on her website and she Instagram some tweets as well I think I think the problem is that when people when when Sally Singer folk were talking about block in a vast commas what they're really talking about is this whole fast sea of people some of whom do do you know blocking They do nothing they just. The show's in the hope that they're going to get you know straight and I don't care and there are and there are others who are on the front cover of Vogue for example because Kara Ferrante has has politics into it into an enviable business she's an entrepreneur she did you know she does cope rantin sure she's a good thing is she that's that sort of blogger I think it's fine I always say to young people who write to me you know it right into me for advice on jobs you know you're at a brewery you're coming in at a brilliant time because there's so many more routes available to you than there were then there were in the old days just the way down not so much time but Sasha just want to spend with you you've been on both sides of the fence if you like working for an establishment established news paper and setting up on your own pros and cons I mean is it a presume that you've done this for 10 years this is the way you see the future I'm a great fan of autonomy and you know I am the boss of me and that's not a lot not to like about but I like having the freedom to write dress up not dress up as I choose but I think it isn't weird an extraordinary time where people he didn't have the entree into what was essentially a closed world as Lisa said Canal set up on their own become essentially entrepreneurs in this crazy digital world and I think it's incredibly democratic in Long live it final word to you and this is come from one of our listeners that never thought this is a question I'd ask live or NEWS HOUR what is the proper time of day for nipple tassels. Oh well I mean it's a fact well it's a very pastoral But actually what I want to say is that everyone needs to get over themselves because the biggest fashion influence of all report is the Duchess of Cambridge you know whatever we write whatever we tweet when she's on she just swamps us all OK Lisa or Armstrong fashion editor from The Daily Telegraph and Sasha Wilkins founder of Liberty London girl dot com Thank you both very much indeed that brings us to an end of this edition of News are from a James Kim are Sammy and the team by. This is the B.B.C. World Service where we celebrate the historic opening of a national museum in America relieving the slavery and freedom exhibition it's a story told by prominent black Americans and 3 families treasured belongings It's a community that has dealt with the position but also a community that has found your revisit the new museum dedicated to African-American History and Culture homes for black history at B.B.C. World Service dot com. 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