C.z. Will further raise tensions in the region Tiran is still holding a British vessel the stand in para it detained in response to the U.K.'s involvement in the earlier of a tanker carrying a rainy an oil of the 2 Bruta Britain has refused any suggestion that the 2 ships could be released in an exchange representatives of the United States and Afghanistan's Taliban are meeting today in Qatar the Taliban's insistence the Afghan government is absent but the possible accord would see the militants committed to negotiations among Afghans and a cease fire there would be a phased withdrawal of u.s. Forces who have been in the country for 18 years World News from the b.b.c. . Police in Hong Kong have fired tear gas to disperse pro-democracy protesters on their 9th consecutive weekend of demonstrations protesters were seen throwing stones and eggs at a police station Steve McDonald reports at the police complex windows facing the street have been smashed in dozens of militant pro-democracy activists 3 bricks at the building which they had removed from an adjacent footpath hundreds more protesters cheered as projectiles hit the police station and the blast rains down from above overnight at least 20 demonstrators were arrested following more street classes with riot. Calls political crisis has moved into its 3rd month with no sign of slowing down protests will continue today at various locations and the strike is planned for tomorrow 40 migrants rescued in the Mediterranean by German charity have been taken to Malta on a naval vessel the charity c r I had picked up the migrants of Libya on Wednesday but Italy turned the ship away Malta will let the refugees land after getting assurances from Germany and all the e.u. Countries that they'll take all of them in. A French inventor has succeeded in crossing the channel between France and England on a jet powered Hove aboard Frank is a party to call from Sangatte new colony he stopped halfway in the boats to refill his fuel tank with kerosene a maneuver he had failed to complete on his 1st attempts 10 days ago these people gathered near Dover to watch the 40 year old arrive I really didn't think he would make it I was hoping and just to see him in the distance my little but not this was just amazing I didn't know what to expect I thought of a historical thing that really high tech magnificent That's the latest b.b.c. World news. Hello and welcome to News Hour from the b.b.c. World Service for coming to you live from London I'm James Tamara saw me Ohio in the American Midwest and Texas in the American south are very different states in their sizes swagger and subtle real choices but today 2 of their cities are united in the kind of grief that comes from a numbingly commonplace tragedy in the United States a pair of mass shootings which took place within hours of each other and which have taken at least $29.00 lives 20 of the victims were killed in El Paso Texas the most Mexican of American cities at a giant Wal-Mart department store according to eyewitness reports a gunman spent several minutes moving through the aisles shooting at people with a powerful rifle this man who was at a nearby shopping center when the shooting took place spoke to c.b.s. News employees they were coming in. And they would they would tell me that they heard some gunshots and people just started holding straight into the store in order to get to get to cover I mean meantime why to try to stay calm but I was freaking out internal Victoria bell around was also at the mall with her parents when the police evacuated them the best place I mean I've always felt so safe and it's hollow and so just the reactions any just now it's starting to hit me all that's happening to people is a large number and it's so sad to know that he's people are my people these people were targeted and ages it breaks my heart when his suggestion they have targeting followers reports of the 21 year old man who surrendered to police and he's been taken into custody had posted a white nationalist document online in which he referred to a Hispanic invasion of Texas the El Paso Police Chief Greg Allen spoke about that at a news conference. Right now we have a manifesto from this individual that indicates to some degree a has a nexus to potential hate crime. We have to validate for certain certainty that this was the manifesto from this individual that we've arrested so with that in play we still have to be aware of the fact that this person is still entitled to a fair process as far as the law or a should pocket is a journalist from El Paso He's been covering the day's events I went to the family reunification center not the scene of the crime which was a Wal-Mart near a shopping center by then everything was over and what I saw was an incredible amount of dignity among the people who had lined up there they were there to find out the fate of loved ones whether they were missing or dead or wounded and they. Stood calmly and there was a Catholic priest who came out to check with people and make sure they were in the right spot he kept reassuring them they were in the right place you're in the right place there are helicopters overhead cops of every kind fire and violence e.m.t. These are Red Cross workers but the scene was not chaotic it was an eerily calm thing either we as Americans have become used to it or people meet these instances with tremendous dignity amid dot com know people clearly desperate the looking full Yes family members that's correct and I want to striking up a conversation with a gentleman who touched me on the elbow is an older man about 70 and he showed me a picture on his cell phone and there were 2 small children one aged 5 girl and one aged 2 a little boy the little boy was in the hospital and. The little girl was missing and their mother aged only 25 years old had already been confirmed dead. So he and I spoke for a few minutes and he was incredibly kind and dignified when he got up he thanked me before I could thank him but that was the way the day unfolded and it was sweltering heat it was 100 degrees of Paso as a city in the middle of one of the largest deserts in the world and people in the city could driving in it dropping off cold water and ice which frankly is about the only thing you can do in a situation like this it was handled with tremendous grace despite the sort of outburst of hatred and violence and rage only moments earlier and then as the news began filtering through about this online manifesto which is believed to have been posted by the person who killed so many people will be your thoughts really and those of the people around you I have feared this moment for some 3 or 4 years since Donald Trump announced his candidacy by announcing that Mexicans were rapists El Paso is my hometown I grew up here I am of Mexican ancestry myself my mother is an immigrant from Mexico and I have always feared this moment would come I was shocked that it came in El Paso because Paso is almost 90 percent Hispanic on the u.s. Side as a border city I can practically throw a rock across into Mexico if I want to there are 2300000 people who live here every Wal-Mart is full of either Latino Americans or Mexican citizens every Saturday or almost any day shopping frankly that the killer reportedly has told police that he wanted to kill as many Mexicans as possible and quite tragically and sadly he came to the right place is then in many ways that the most shocking thing about this that you expected it yes I think that's exactly right unfortunately. You know whether it's Jews in America African-Americans Asians and now Hispanics it's pretty clear that not all of the president's supporters but a good many of them do support his racist politics and very few of them will go to deadly means to achieve what can be done it's a terrible the to the bold cliche sounding sentiment comes out off every mass shooting I guess what do you think can be done 2 things have to be disentangled The 1st is I'm a Texan and I'm a gun owner myself I respect firearms for the purpose of hunting and for some people for the purposes of shooting sports but the fact is that we are a nation awash in guns we have over 300000000 firearms in a country of just as many people most of those firearms are concentrated amongst 30 percent of the population Texas unfortunately for the Republican Party here is going to have this debate and they're going to have now a gun toting state is about to face up to the costs of wide open guns particularly these kinds of guns for everyone and then secondly to your question the reality is that the trumpet ministrations policies have steadily dish human eyes do not merely immigrants to this country they have stigmatized people of different faiths they have incarcerated children who happen to be Latino and so we cannot disentangle the gun problem now from the official acts of the hatred What do you think the the show it's a medium term impact will be on the city of El Paso of this shooting. Very good question I think in that sense El Paso will be like every other American city that has undergone this kind of tragedy in that it will be forgotten by the nation soon but I cannot help but think of that 70 year old man that I interviewed there are hundreds if not thousands of people in the city tonight who had a whole ripped in their lives because a loved one went shopping at Wal-Mart of all places and happened to be as panic. And that wound is not here we talk easily those of us in the in the press rebuilding in the strength of communities and that's all very nice but losses like that leave scars and they are very deep and I think that the city will have to live with all scars El Paso journalist there Richard Parker and we'll be hearing later on in the program about the shootings in Dayton Ohio. The sound there of a 9th weekend of protests in Hong Kong the demonstration in the main waterfront area of Kalu County loon one of the 2 much is planned for the territory today where the public anger that was brought on by plans for a bill allowing extraditions to Mainland China has failed to dissipate even after Hong Kong's chief executive Kerry Lampung the idea of sporadic clashes on Saturday between police and protesters there were 20 more arrests overnight for offenses including unlawful assembly and assault graffiti has appeared encouraging Hong Kong is to take part in a general strike there on Monday Emily Lau is a former member of Hong Kong's Legislative Council and Council and former chair person of the Democratic Party. Situation goes on if it's really going to hurt I think it will cut across the country towards this parents if it goes on you say but it shows no sign of stopping at the moment does it No sadly I think there is a consensus that a government should come out I carry lead to chief executive it should come out to rule what Scribner was a terrible extradition of Britain which the threat is that our people want her to say a proper legal proceeding with great completely I don't also to set up a commission of inquiry with me but if such a commission is set up in the not structure of the protest. Immediately I think probably well who done although there is a sense that this is gone beyond the extradition bill into something bigger Well that's true of course people are going universe or suffrage you have to write well as. Well members of the legislature and d.c. None have been better for more than 20 years meanwhile a general strike is planned for Monday is not likely to focus minds at the top I hope so now this strike is organized by people who are saying no we don't support violence we just want to contest the peace the way I am if it's widely supported it was also I can show you that there are many people who were in favor of the government responding to the demands what can be done from abroad to bring some kind of conclusion to all of this do you think I'm very grateful to the international community for speaking out on home call and communal ask the administration to withdraw the bill I mean when I knew that when the central government decided to suck every last says spending but what they said because there were 67 statements issued I think my government so why shouldn't you international public opinion that's met we haven't talked about Beijing mainland China and its reaction to all of this what's your sense are they getting nervous when I think banking is can set and I had and of course people ask them about the possibility of applying the People's Liberation Army but I think making well run to take such a classic step should that happen that would be the end of one country 2 systems you're calling for a commission of inquiry for everything to be come down. Own Is there a danger though that if nothing changes things might deteriorate Of course many people of Britain could say that some people will get seriously injured I mean. That should have some through escalate very quickly the Hong Kong politician Emily Lau that you're listening to the b.b.c. World Service this is News Hour coming to you live from London with James Kim our sun. Coming up later on in the program we'll hear from the French inventor who has become the 1st person to cross the English Channel on a jet powered hoverboard. I'm feeling lucky and it's just an amazing moment for me so proud for my and so happy for my knife and many remind of our headlines at this hour there have been 2 mass shootings in the United States 20 people were killed by a suspected white supremacist in El Paso in Texas several hours later 19 people were shot dead in Dayton Ohio a deal paving the way for civilian rule has been initialed in Sudan it's intended that a transitional government with a civilian majority will be named later this month and the Islamic Revolutionary Guards in Iran say they're holding a foreign oil tanker in the Gulf including its crew of 7 sailors. You're listening to the b.b.c. World Service this is News Hour coming to you live from London with James Kumaraswamy. There have been conflicting signals from and about Afghanistan in recent days a country of course in the grip of war for the best part of 4 decades last month with the deadliest for more than 2 years there with at least $1500.00 Afghan civilians being killed but on Saturday the u.s. Envoy for Afghan reconciliations are made that sound this rather hopeful sounding tweet the Taliban a signaling they would like to conclude an agreement we are ready for an agreement while he is in Doha where the United States and Taliban are engaged in a throne of negotiations as is news hours least he said in Doha that is not engaged in the negotiations although you have been to briefings today what can you tell us . Yes we've been talking both to the American side and the Taliban side and it is seems very clear that they are very very close they're within striking distance of a deal between the United States and the Taleban on what would be a phased withdrawal of u.s. Surge troops which would to be in exchange for Taliban guarantees that Afghanistan would not be used as a safe haven again for groups like Al Qaida and now in Islamic sate and that this would be this part of the deal with and lead to talks among Afghans and eventually a ceasefire but as always with mediation when these kind of very difficult deals when you get down to the law tend to put say last 10 percent there are some really really naughty issues Taliban are still asking for a quicker pullout of u.s. Troops they're still resisting spelling out which of the extremist groups you know they don't want they have had relations in the past with Al Qaida they don't want to spell out which group it is that they're going to be moving against if they signed this deal with the United States so they're not they're quite there yet but there have been about an hour and a half they're going to go back into full negotiations again and they're hoping that before the next festival which is in about a week's time they will be able to say that they've reached a deal remind us why this is all happening in and. Who was where the Taleban were able to establish many years ago their 1st face which was the For them the 1st step on the path to greater legitimacy acknowledgment of them that they're not just of you know a fighting group in the minds of some people they're militants others call them terrorists others call them nationalists but it was the 1st step toward they find themselves today the Taliban travel around the world you know they were just in Indonesia they're met by the deputy president they need foreign ministers around the world foreign ministers come here to Doha. To meet them and so it became the obvious place for them to hold talks with the United States once the United States decided that instead of meeting the Taliban once a year in secret talks they will meet them time and again to try and reach that elusive deal to get American troops out and to get Afghanistan back on the road to peace with all the cows yet so that final 10 percent that you've outlined what is it that has got these 2 sides so close to an agreement look at Afghanistan look at a country which has been this last phase of the war the last kind of war is in the last 18 years since the Taliban. Was ousted from Afghanistan a new u.s. Led invasion but Afghanistan has been at war for 40 years one generation after the next living with this death and destruction last year was it a year of record civilian casualties you know I heard from from one of the negotiators that both sides are anxious to have an agreement everyone understands that you can't have a war fight to the finish but getting to a negotiated finish is still going to be very hard Lisa thanks very much these are there in Doha. Mushroom lane may be one of Lebanon's best known rock bands for their growing international profile but they have not been able to perform at a major music festival in their home country this year the organizers of the big last festival say that they cancelled my concert to prevent bloodshed after church leaders accused the band of blasphemy and the band began to receive death threats later say they're the victims of a vicious smear campaign as our Beirut correspondent Martin patience reports. This is. The Lebanon's biggest wrong band with fans across the world mushroom Layla's lead singer is a Muslim and openly gay he sings about relate gin politics and sexuality all hugely sensitive topics in the Middle East where here outside the gates of the American University of Beirut and it was here a decade ago that the band was formed so what do people here make of the decision to cancel the concert but on is not gone through or freedom of speech is protected and everyone should respect. What others think about the issue still there. And a place that they don't accept this thing I think that being most of this country. I think they are just kids that want to say that often you know I think it's not more than that they are making it bigger than ballots it should be just for political reasons maybe Liben and has always prided itself on being freer than the Rashed of the Arab world but church leaders here said mushroom Layla's lyrics violates he'd religious values the band say as they were. Smear campaign run lying and fabrications that couldn't be farther from the truth for us we are the luckiest the barracks of Christians in the Middle East we cannot really allow such things to happen now gee Hi It is a political activist who was involved in the social media campaign against the band Christians 100 percent feel under assault in this country and see the popular reaction about look at what happened to us in all the neighboring countries Christians have been kicked out of Iraq they have been slaughtered in Syria people would be surprised to hear the Lebanese Christians around or see each It's not as if you're being attacked in the street well there are different kinds of attack if they have bliss fim does use and why don't you trust the courts when you go to the court and you say the blast from the country the regular court does not want to raise a big flack about this thing so they let them go and we do not want them to go to jail and we do not want to hurt them or to do anything like this but surely if they have bliss fim Jesus Christ then they should be punished well this is there is a different there is a different view in Christianity about this Jesus Christ allows you to blaspheme it doesn't mean anything but at the same time touching our political identity political Christian identity has to be defended and this is the way we defended it that's the heart of the matter yes exactly Lebanon may have been rebuilt after its devastating civil war ended 30 years ago but the country sectarian divisions are never far from the surface and they're often exploited if you tell people industry that means that you are no more estate and these are some of the year in lawyer and executive director of the legal action that is now everybody imposing He's own no and his own rules and that what is what's scary in this. People who are trying to impose what they believe as right it's more justice. This was always about far more than just that band it's about how Lebanon use itself as a country in many ways it's similar to what we're seeing elsewhere in the world but the danger here is they said Tait in asm can very quickly lead to violence. And that was Martin patients reporting from Beirut you are listening to the b.b.c. World Service this is News Hour coming to you live from London with James Kim our song. This is the b.b.c. 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Up on news out in the next 30 minutes battling the forest fires in Siberia more a day of double mass shootings in the United States a groundbreaking treatment to delay the men opposed them we'll hear about Poland's contribution to cracking the Enigma code during the 2nd World War All of that coming up after the news. B.b.c. News with new owners gunmen have killed 29 people in to mass shootings in the United States in one of the last incidents of its kind in recent times a suspected a white supremacist mounted 20 people in the city of El Paso Texas Police believe the man had just minutes earlier posted online a document attacking his panics and immigrants just hours later another gunman opened fire in Dayton killing 9 people before he was shot dead by the police a deal paving the way for civilian rule has been initialized in Sudan the agreement between the military and the main opposition coalition sets up a transitional government and elections in 3 years' time a prime minister is due to be appointed later this month state media say Iran is holding another foreign oil tanker it is seized in the Gulf the revolutionary guards took control of the vessel on Wednesday Iran captured a British tanker after the seizure of an Iranian vessel in Gibraltar. The u.s. And the Taliban are holding won't are being termed decisive talks on ending the conflict in Afghanistan the Afghan government isn't taking part but a deal would stipulate talks between it and the Taliban clashes have again broken down to during democracy protests in Hong Kong demonstrators have been seen throwing projectiles at the windows of a police station the police have used tear gas to disperse the crowds up to 30000000 people are being affected by a power blackout in and around the Indonesian capital Jakarta the outage has disrupted public transport and communications networks to people involved in the project to successfully fly a self build aircraft from Cape Town to Cairo have died in a plane crash in Tanzania because Vernon Vernon from mn had back to the project carried out by students b.b.c. News coming up next we'll hear more on the 2nd mass shooting has taken place in the United States this time in Dayton Ohio 1st so great swathes of Siberia a burning smoke from forest fires has drifted as far as Alaska and the West Coast of the continental United States the Russian authorities have been dumping water onto the fire as they say they've managed to put out 16 of them but as our Moscow correspondent Steve Rosenberg reports from Siberia those who know about these kinds of fires of old have their doubts. If you get in a car in your court and drive north 18 and a half hours as I did you'll reach the village of party market or a beautiful village it is too on the banks of the great Siberian river Leanna But if in party marketer you switch cars climb into a giant Russian off road truck and then drive into the tiger with local forestry workers well that tranquil picture postcard image of party market are quite literally goes up in smoke. It's. Armed with a simple pump a man called is walking around trying to extinguish flames so as I'm walking through this forest to my right what I can see is quite more smoke rising from the ground and there are flames too in places what the local forestry workers have tried to do here is to localize the fire to to keep it on one side to stop it spreading so to do that they sent in a bulldozer to create a path I'm working on that now and from this part they removed everything they could catch fire to create a barrier but if I look to my left the other side I can see smoke there too so this barrier isn't working. Good Noddy is head of the team we have to keep the situation under control he tells me we have to keep putting out fires checking every hour otherwise all of this work will be for nothing but get out he says sometimes fires burned here until the autumn rain or even the 1st snow. This summer forest fires have been raging across Siberia an area the size of Belgium. It's burning and looking around me I can see what fire has done to the tiger here the fire has caused a lot of damage and the fire is still smoldering and part of the problem is the dead wood the dry wood which is lying around because even if you would drop 40 tons of water from a military plane in fact I can hear a helicopter going over me right now believe if you were to drop water on this forest if the fires are still burning inside the deadwood that won't be extinguished good Noddy and his team are doing what they can but they have limited resources what they have a lot of though is determination to stop their Siberian forest from burning down and that was the B.B.C.'s Steve Rosenberg reporting from Siberia. You're listening to the b.b.c. World Service this is news our coming to you live from London with James Tamara Sammy a mass shooting is not an unusual phenomenon in the United States these days but 2 in such a short space of time that is unusual just hours after Saturday's killings in El Paso Texas a man wearing body armor opened fire in downtown Dayton Ohio in the early hours of this morning police say that the gunman and 9 other people have died at least 16 others have been wounded and admitted to hospital that carpet is Dayton's assistant police chief he said it still wasn't clear what was behind the shootings currently world war going on identifying the suspect to see what the possible motivation might have been we do not have that yet the suspect was firing are a long gun with with multiple aisles at the victim's Derrick Meyers is a reporter for News Net in Dayton he said local people were in shock. This is a low crime community and even though 1st responders who work this area the police officers who are on the street every single night you can see the emotion expressed on their faces they're absolutely horrified at what they're having to go through this is not something just to me that uses the singing as the day like the in the sun does rise it's going to help shine a better light on to this as police go out by inch grid by grid looking for more evidence Jay Williams was in the area when the shooting took place he told me what he had experienced or that it mean you call heinous located in downtown Bay in a few blocks away from the Oregon District where the shooting was also happened being at the same time I. Was running this so came in there as. We have the leaders the shooting going on in Oregon those 3 and 5 people there are already based are in that we need to evaluate so we evacuated the left and as I was leaving the home away from the scene are it's kind of how to drive past the scene I see a bus a car or whatever more police so many go to the scene and I see more that way amylase and leaving and going to be seen as I was on the make the model way home safely it must be a pretty chilling experience you know those very stark. Here's says new especially considering we don't I don't ever remember having a mass shooting here and this less than a day after the other mass shooting in El Paso so this is really happening right here and they're trying to curry it was even more creative that I'm with we each driver and I usually go down today or really quite a bit at night time these requests and not just locally didn't deny you could are decided to go them out for a show. So you could have just been driving driving us as it happened and yet is it is it a surprise yesterday that there has been anything like this in Dayton before us is he will surprise us or feels that knowing that people have many shot at for no reason I did is going out there with the timer hey we're difference of the d.n.a. Might in an open day or a severely hurt feeling in the when especially when we were so great in it has to because sure do tragedy. Jay Williams who is in downtown Dayton Ohio when the shooting that took place was going to provide broader perspective on all of these shooting incidents we're joined now by Justin Miller national editor of The Daily Beast Justin It is unusual to have 2 mass shootings like this within just hours of each other but the phenomenon itself is sadly pretty common isn't that yes it is thank you for having me and El Paso this appears to be a terrorist attack by a man who wrote a manifesto shortly before allegedly opening fire saying that he was doing so in response to what he called a Hispanic invasion of the country in Dayton we don't know why this person was motivated only that this person who opened fire killing 9 people were body armor and used a rifle similar to the one that was used in Dayton so he went to a public place to kill in both instances I would call these really spectacular attacks more than just a mass shooting you use the word terrorist is not always used in these type of attacks is that. No but it should be when the perpetrator says they are acting with a political motive we just saw another terrorist attack on Sunday in Gilroy California where the perpetrator there again a white man in his twenty's using a rifle said that he was doing it to go after Hispanic people and even posted online before the attack in other Similary a racist tract written by an author about a century ago how is this being one of this being reacted to in Washington the seat of power. Republicans are reacting as they always do offering thoughts and prayers trying to blame this on mental illness even though there's no evidence that these people were you know suffered any mental illness being homicidal who are racists is certainly not a mental illness something else Democrats meanwhile have. Talked about 2 things one. They say that America is under siege by white supremacists terrorists and they also have renewed their calls for action on guns at the federal level I mean actions which didn't take place under Democratic leadership either did I know but that was not because the fault of Democrats that was a few Republican senators led by Mitch McConnell filibustering gun safety legislation after Sandy Hook despite 8090 percent approval in the public at large so it's important not to mistake the actions of a few. A few for you know popular dissatisfaction with gun control controls popular and the public was lost in favor of it then since Sandy Hook and what we're looking at 7 years ago was nothing that you know the numbers have have just escalated to these kind of incidents where does a public stand now. I think the public stands you know as much or more in favor and wow action of the federal level has not occurred because Republicans don't want to pass this legislation it has occurred at the state level after the park when shooting in Florida in February 28th seen you saw a Republican governor in a Republican controlled state which was sort of the vanguard of the n.r.a. Sign into law gun control legislation now that was politically beneficial because the governor Rick Scott was trying to be calm and did become the senator from Florida that November. Just a national editor of The daily basis very much for that overview of the the state of. Control and indeed of the the numbers of mass shootings taking place in the United States. A procedure that promises to pulls the men a pools has been given the go ahead by medical regulators here in the u.k. It involves freezing overy tissue from a young woman and then reimplementing and it put it in her later in life that would allow body to continue making the whole moans that usually stop being produced at the time of men opposed acting as a sort of natural hormone replacement therapy or h r t is being pioneered by Dr Simon Fishel who is famous for another groundbreaking procedure i.v. If what we take is 'd what holds or once that of one ovary is from one has a remarkable function but it's only tiny and then we divide it up very very carefully into little strips and then we keep freeze them we keep them at a very low temperature about minus $150.00 degrees Centigrade nothing happens to them biologically and they can be kept frozen for many many decades and within that tissue. Is hundreds if not thousands of aches but as a part of that it's the hormones that are being preserved that keeps a woman in her pre-menopausal say so once that tissue is transplants it back then those home and stop producing it doesn't matter how long we keep them that delay will simply depend on the functionality of the actual tissue once it's thawed out which I think we all about the age of the woman so the younger you do it the greater benefit you're going to have what are the benefits then about 70 percent of women experience symptoms going into the Men of course and well into the Men of course and about 50 percent of continue to seek medical help for their symptoms including one of the very big ones osteoporosis cardiovascular disorders and even cognitive dysfunction and of course the more minor ones are things like flashes I mean I don't call them minor they just relatively are anxiety and an arrest of other conditions mood swings that. An awful lot of women. So by delaying the men appalls you're delaying all of that yes because you're keeping the woman in her preferred top it would have prevented causal period now we try to do that medically using pharmacological drugs called h.r.t. Now h.r.t. Isn't for everybody but one of the reasons why it charts he has it's problems is because literally it is a halakhah logical agent it's delivered in a manner to the woman that is crude it's not like our organs deliver our hormones with exquisite sensitivity in a rhythmical culture tile nature over a period of time so that is one reason why having not sure all hormonal replacement and I don't just mean the product being natural it's the way it's delivered to the body is likely to be of enormous benefit to women does this mean that women will essentially be able to have children much later in life yes and of course no if they are in the older age bracket where it would be unsafe the child I don't say for the pregnancy and the woman to have a baby later in life then we would put it somewhere where just the hormones will be active but absolutely impossible to get pregnant I mean for example you could still put it back in in the abdominal wall or parroting a cavity but you can also put it back into the op it anywhere there's a good blood supply to show you will be kickstarted if you like and to stop producing the hormones it will still produce a mix as it would do naturally but it's a bit like a man having the 2nd he still produces sperm but it goes nowhere. Will Yes possible to be fertilized so it will just like any other cell in the body just that's not fascinate so you is there any show potentially with with women who are older who feel younger who are still fertile have not gone through the menopause was who perhaps lose some of those sort of grandmotherly instincts that. People say a very important as part of the social fabric because we don't have the absence of that what we do know is we're in a very interesting place of human development maybe 150 years ago women were not living much beyond the childbearing years. Now we have wonderful medical health opportunities and yet the ovary unfortunately is still a biological instrument and it still doesn't matter whether women lives another 50 years when the every accident tax it when it always did basically they old 40 is it was a woman 68 so why not continue that along the process of making feat people feel younger healthier and you foresee a time when it will be available to all I think there's a real prospect of that the problem always with health case also has a political element How much does anybody want. To offer benefits to the nation 25 years time and that was Dr Simon official who was pioneering a new procedure that would allow women to delay the men opposed by perhaps several decades You're listening to the b.b.c. World Service this is News Hour coming to you live from London with James Kim are something. This is the b.b.c. World Service with a playlist that eyes of this world music is their flexion of times of social and cultural. 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World Service this is News Hour coming to you live from our studios in central London with James Kim our Sami It was 2nd time lucky for the daredevil French inventor Frankie's a potter today's become the 1st person to cross the English Channel on a jet powered hoverboard there was a watery end to his 1st attempt last week as the 40 year old former jet ski champion plunged into the sea 10 minutes into his journey today though it was plain hovering as he took off from song got on the French coast and landed 20 minutes later instant markets Bay near Dover feeling happy I'm feeling lucky and it's just an amazing moment for me so proud for my and so happy for my my family and my friends and and my chin you know everything was behind me pushing me every day since now 6 months so yes it's. It's an amazing moment in the life and it's quite a spectacle for the onlookers I really didn't think you would make it but I was hoping and just to see him in the distance with my little bit not this was just amazing and as he flew over. Just amazing and he's going to do very disappointing moved to tears even for the beard where then they have a brass band here. Is magnificent So no Kentish fanfare but there was a futurist looking moment of transport history according to the B.B.C.'s James Waterhouse it's proper superhero stuff and he comes in to a greetings of applause and lands in a very sort of comfortable fashion fans of back to the future will think about this as well if it makes the fairy and the Euro Star look frankly boring Frank he's a pretty he's a he's an inventor he's a next world jet ski champion he's previously develops sort of quite it flying machines are the ones you sometimes see in on beaches where they use the water itself to propel in the air will this is obscene extension of that it's too early to say whether the likes of you or I will be going for this instead of more conventional means but it's certainly a serious feat getting across in this way and that was the b.b.c. James Waterhouse on Franky is that pattern as successful attempt to cross English Channel on a jet powered of a board. It's great it's encouraging device and history and the Germans use it for all communications everybody thinks will make mo is unbreakable the prime will know for sure it was a cheering you know how many died because of it. 3 while we've been having this conversation. An extract there from the imitation game the Oscar nominated film about the U.K.'s top secret Bletchley Park estate starring Benedict Cumberbatch as Britain's best known wartime Codebreaker Alan Turing his face Of course Alan Turing not Benedict Cumberbatch is set to appear on the 50 pound note soon one aspect of the story that was ignored by the film though was the role of 3 Polish mathematicians who had cracked the Enigma code in the early 930 s. And passed their secrets on to the British and French one of the $300.00 settlers in England after. War of his life was recently celebrated the Polish embassy here in London family members from the u.k. And Poland with their as was the author of a book about the coalition Polish codebreakers his name said Dermot Turing and he is Alan Turing's nephew and after the ceremony he told me about the crucial Polish role in cracking the Nazi codes the Polish code breakers who had cracked the Enigma problem in the early 1930 s. Decided that they were going to share the know how and all the information about the Enigma machine and nor the techniques they had developed for breaking Enigma messages they were going to share that with the French and the British we think the British knew everything about enigma and that's actually at that stage they knew virtually nothing they didn't know what the internal wiring of the Enigma machine was and they certainly didn't know what the clever Polish mechanical techniques are actually finding the Enigma settings were so it's pretty hard for states to share secrets with each other even today and in the awful climate of the late 1930 s. It was really quite the most remarkable thing and what is the path being to get proper recognition for the Polish codebreakers. It's been a bit of a rocky road to be honest because the official history of British intelligence in World War 2 hands I don't know for what reasons but they had a very misinformed account of the poles a tackle of the enigma problem and it included some howlers like the fact that the Poles had stolen the German Enigma machine when actually they had reconstituted an Enigma machine by pure mathematical analysis so it kind of felt to many Polish people that they were being whitewashed as to the records that they sort of get caught up in the Cold War In a way I think that was partly to blame because of the time the official history came out it was before 989 so information flow between the u.k. And Poland was pretty feeble and I also think the story wasn't particularly well known in Poland of the time so I think what's then happened of course is a bunch of the Prague has become I think quite rightly very famous for what it did and the contribution made by the Allied codebreakers during World War 2 But again that has meant that the spotlight's been on but actually and that's meant that the contribution of the poles and particular punishment petitions may need to spend some more in the shadow almost to the point where people think Well Alan Turing somehow did it singlehandedly which is clearly nonsense 3 Polish mathematicians but he one of them is being celebrated here today and Rick where we happen to have with this is an exhibit his nephew Jeremy Russell your 1st memories of your uncle had nothing to do with the next with the day. You Hendrick has an uncle and more or less 1st became aware of him as a child and my 1st memory of him was building a snowman in the bitter winter of Nergal 47. And initially Oh Ok and rather horns. Bit like such neighbors a very gentle giant Really here's here's Levy and he became a cow math teacher here in England after the war yes I mean he had to reeducate himself according to the English. Reasoning there is a huge irony the man who taught and hearing about the Enigma code was deemed not qualified enough to teach him and anguish the universe to correct him I wanted to your your thoughts your feelings really when you realize that the man that built snowman with you that was a slightly imposing figure played this key role in. Winning the 2nd world war for it's in keeping with his character he's very humble as I said and he would not want to boast about it but I'm extremely proud of it and I wish I'd known more about it when he was the alert and that was Jeremy Russell We also heard from Saddam it to the nephews of a pair of World War 2 code breakers one of them polish one of them British And that brings us to an end of this edition of News After want to get in touch with us about anything you hear on the program our Twitter handle is on b.b.c. News our mine is at b.b.c. Jamie thanks very much for spending the last hour with us until the next time from all of us here on News Hour good bye. This is the b.b.c. World Service bringing you inspirational stories from around the world. Story I have never stopped listening from an Eritrean man who spent his life on the run to an f.b.i. Agent to look into the sounds a scene you can sleep bring you stories of extraordinary people from all over the world. 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Coming up after the news this month's World Book Club We're talking with the award winning Nigerian writer she goes about his compelling novel The fisherman shortlisted for the 2015 Man Booker Prize the fisherman tells the story of 4 young brothers who defy their all for a Terry and father to go fishing in a Forbidden River on the outskirts of the West Nigerian town where they live after a local market issues the shocking prophecy that the eldest brother will be killed by one of the others the strong family bonds begin to snap in a tragic tale of events of almost mythic proportion is set in train with his boat and powerful debut to go 0 has emerged as one of the most original New Voices of African literature so join me to go but writer she goes e.o.p. Omar and readers from around the world for this month's book club after the news. B.b.c. News I'm John Shea there have been 2 mass shootings in the United States within a few hours of each other in the 1st incident in El Paso Texas 20 people died when a suspected white supremacist opened fire at a shopping center police have arrested a 21 year old man they believe he posted a document online before the attack railing against immigrants and Hispanics hours later 9 people were shot dead and $26.00 injured in Dayton Ohio when a gunman opened fire as a bar the city's mayor and Wiley said police had saved many lives if David police had not gotten to the shooter in under a minute and think of that 3026 injured 9 dead. Hundreds of people in the Oregon District could be dead today and that work and that bravery by our 1st responders is something that moves me to get up every morning to continue to do this work the ruling military council in Sudan and the main opposition coalition have initialed an agreement on a new constitutional declaration which is to water in a 3 year transition to full civilian rule it will see a new council formed in mid August with a civilian majority by the end of the month the council will appoint a prime minister and a civilian transitional government. Iranian state media say Ron has seized a foreign oil tanker in the Gulf states televisions are the vessel was smuggling fuel to Arab states and was seized by Iran's Revolutionary Guards Sebastien has more details this is the 3rd tanker that Iran has seized in the past month it's not yet clear what flag this latest ship was flying under no what nationalities the 7 crew belong to the vessel doesn't appear to be noted as missing since last Wednesday its cargo is relatively small but inevitably it sees it will further raise tensions in the region to run is still holding a British vessel the Stana impera it detained in response to the U.K.'s involvement in the earlier season of attacks occurring a rainy and oil of 2 broader Britain has refused any suggestion that the 2 ships could be released in an exchange Hong Kong police have fired tear gas to disperse pro-democracy protesters on the 9th consecutive weekend of demonstrations earlier protestors were seen throwing stones and other robbed.