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and the tills are cleaned after every transaction. in a small way, it's back to business as normal today. the safety of customers and staff remains paramount, even for the garden centre cat, pudding. phil mackie, bbc news, worcester. time for a look at the weather. here's darren bett. a word of caution. it will be cold again tonight but gradually, over the next few days and nights temperatures should rise higher and again it looks dry for much of the country like today. cloud tending to increase today and many have skies looking like this. the satellite shows how the cloud has bubbled up, producing showers mainly in the north—east of england and north—east scotla nd north—east of england and north—east scotland where it will be colder through the afternoon. elsewhere temperature is 11—14. sunshine at times. a cool breeze in southern parts of england. the cloud will melt away this evening. it will get cold overnight. northern scotland seeing cloud and showers. elsewhere the risk of a frost, particularly in rural parts of the uk. tomorrow sta rts rural parts of the uk. tomorrow starts cold but bright. cloud tending to increase through the day and it will push south across scotla nd and it will push south across scotland into northern ireland, bringing showers and elsewhere staying dry. sunshine at times. temperatures higher than today probably. up to 16 where we get the best of the sunshine, but still a breeze in southern england. high pressure still dominates the weather, even into friday. around it weather, even into friday. around it we are drawing down more cloud thursday night into friday morning so thursday night into friday morning so maybe not as cold but the cloud ten us across southern parts so a cold start here. this is where we are likely to see the best of the sunshine on friday. cloud filling in on friday with showers towards scotland. temperatures rising where the wind is light on friday. on the weekend, the wind direction changes with warmer air drawing up from the south—west. always the colder air in the far north of scotland and where those collide, you see weather fronts threatening rain in northern areas. even though we have more cloud across the north, it should be warmer. most of the rain i think will be across northern scotland although more places will see some rain on sunday. further south, pressure will be higher and it should be dry with sunshine at times, continuing to get warmer. that's all from the bbc news at one. on bbc one we nowjoin the bbc‘s news teams where you are. good afternoon, it's 1.30pm and here's your latest sports news. hello i'm sarah mulkerrins at the bbc sport centre. as you've seen in the news this hour — some recreational sports like golf and tennis have been re—opened to the public — and we'll have more throughout the afternoon on that. away from that — agustin pichot has resigned from his role on the world rugby council. the argentine was beaten by bill beaumont in the recent election for the post of the global body's chairman. pichot, who won 71 caps for argentina, served as a world rugby vice—chairman under former england skipper beaumont for the past four years before deciding to run for the top job. his statement said: "the only reason i have been a part of world rugby to this day, and which in turn is the same one that has moved me to run for president, is the conviction that world rugby needs change. i cannot conceive of occupying a place just for the sake of occupying it." middlesbrough midfielder adam clayton has been talking about his dad beating covid—19. he was moved to a regular ward after 51 days in intensive care. clapping and cheering and his son is also delighted. we gotan we got an idea that he was leaving about an hour before and then the face timed my mum as it was happening and then we got the videos in the next ten minutes. after the long journey we had beenjust in the next ten minutes. after the long journey we had been just to see him moving and talking and on the road to recovery was... it brought a tear to the eye. that's all the sport for now. you can find more on all those stories on the bbc sport website. that's bbc.co.uk/sport. hello and good afternoon. this is bbc news. we will take you through all the day's development to coronavirus and the many aspects of the stories today, politics and otherwise. we will start with hospitality. the hospitality industry has been hit hard by the coronavirus lockdown. the prime minister said in his address on sunday that some parts of the sector may partially re—open in july, depending on the rate of coronavirus infection. let's discuss the future of the restaurant's cafes and hotels. angela hartnett is chef—owner of murano and cafe murano in london, among other ventures. she is well known to viewers ofjust about every cookie —— degree programme on the bbc. thank you for joining us. how are you doing and what are you and your team able to do over the last seven weeks? after the chancellor announced the furlough scheme, everyone went on to furlough scheme, everyone went on to furlough and it was just myself and the managing director working. we have started a take away the last few weeks because we thought that was a way we could keep our name out there and start to get a bit of money to the business, but because it is early stages we do not want to on furlough anyone because then you would have to pay them properly and we need to see that we have got the money to do that. we are just sitting and waiting right now. the chancellor announced that they are extending the scheme —— furlough scheme i will have to wait to see what they are doing. we have to wait untiljuly the 1st to see if we can actually open some of our restau ra nts actually open some of our restaurants again. i do absolutely ta ke restaurants again. i do absolutely take me onto my next thought, because it is the thing that we discussed. baby steps in some sectors of the economy but how on earth does a restaurant reopen with social distancing? is that even possible? i think we might be luckier than some because one or two of my restaurants are reasonably big so we of my restaurants are reasonably big so we could split our customers up, halfway across the restaurant. i don't think it makes for a really great atmosphere as people don't come out forjust great atmosphere as people don't come out for just the food and drink, we come out to be part of something, and i think if you are having to stagger people distances apart it will not make for a big —— great night out. apart from the hospitality side of it, the question is if we are opening up and they are saying that we are only allowed two metres apart, that means 50% of your business back, you are still happy to be 100% of your bills and rates and rents. even though you are only going to get 50% of your revenue. that is a bigger worry for a lot of restau ra nts, that is a bigger worry for a lot of restaurants, will they survive was to open up? and that is it. is it down to just the individual set up of various restaurants? i heard one restau ra nt, of various restaurants? i heard one restaurant, a man made a point that his restaurants had to be at a 70% capacity simply to break even and you are not going to be allowed to be 70% capacity in the early stages. place will fold, sadly, what they? there certainly will be some casualties after covid—19. i think there will also be some redundancies across the industry, because you cannot just re—employ every across the industry, because you cannotjust re—employ every member of staff if you are only running at 70% capacity. i also think that eve ryo ne 70% capacity. i also think that everyone has that in various meetings, i had one with the board today, one of the points that was made was that it is notjust one shoe fits all, our industry goes from the hospitality, values of the 3000 to a small pub in soho that has ten people, there is hotels and hospitality in hospitals. we are a —— we are a huge industry as you can't suddenly say that this is what you have to do across every sector because it just you have to do across every sector because itjust will not you have to do across every sector because it just will not work. people have to have their own individual freedom people have to have their own individualfreedom to people have to have their own individual freedom to feel confident that the the right thing for the staff at the right thing for their customers. you make a really interesting point about the different areas, we all think of cafe and different areas, we all think of cafe a nd restau ra nts, different areas, we all think of cafe and restaurants, but it is so much more than that. in terms of staff, we can think of dosh does not like we have probably all seen in a pub question, the chefs cannot socially distance. that is just not how it question is laid out. what do you do about that? what can you do? i think you do about that? what can you do? ithinka you do about that? what can you do? i think a lot of operators are looking at our menus about how we do that with less staff. i am looking ata that with less staff. i am looking at a 24—hour kitchen, because i think you will have to do prep in stages. you will have to have groups of chefs all kick at the same time and have the same rotor indefinitely, because god forbid someone indefinitely, because god forbid someone gets it and then you have a group of set of the whole team —— low tar. you will have to have ppe equipment and there is a shortage of that i knew what the nhs to have our first, but you need to protect your staff as well. there are many factors to consider. once you have the confidence of your staff, you can then look at the confidence you give your customers, but you will not be taking a walk in bookings because they will have to be a traceability booking. you need to be able to contact every single guest and say that someone had an issue. there are so many ifs and buts to theirs. you think you solve one problem began another five come up, so it is an ongoing process that we have to react to immediately every time something changes. fascinating to talk to you. wishing you and the tea m to talk to you. wishing you and the team all the best and we hope to see you and others back in action as soon as you and others back in action as soon as possible. thank you. talking about the very many challenges facing the hospitality industry. let us facing the hospitality industry. let us turn to the nhs and the situation inside of it. a couple of months ago, any parent of a sick or injured child wouldn't have thought twice about taking them to hospital, if it was necessary. now, fear of coronavirus is causing them to stay away, with addenbrooke's hospital in cambridge seeing less than a third of their usual number of young patients. our science correspondent richard westcott reports. there are plenty of staff on shift and all the safety measures are in place but at this hospital, like many others, staff say fear of the virus is stopping parents bringing their children in. it's a lot quieter. we've got empty beds for the first time in paediatrics. we've not had empty beds for a long time. i mean, you're a nurse but you're also a parent. can you understand why people would be worried, reluctant? totally, totally understand it and we've discussed it with our colleagues and said, "what would we do if our children were sick?" and we've all gone, "oh, no," but we all know the right answer is to seek medical help when medical help is needed and we would bring our children in. keep your eyes still, keep your head still right now, look at my fingers wiggling, that's brilliant, fantastic. they would normally see 80—90 children a day at this time of year. they‘ re currently seeing around 20—30. i didn't want it! including abigail, whos mum was nervous about bringing her in. watching the news, very scared about the number of people dying and all that but then we had to come in. and you're glad you did it? i am very pleased i did, i brought my daughter in and she is getting much better. if you had seen her nine weeks ago, you would understand she is much better now. because i know she is in good hands and in a better place. initially we were expecting a tsunami of coronavirus cases and what we've seen is a different problem. we've seen children presenting later and sicker, some to our intensive care unit because we think parents are worried about presenting to hospital in the middle of the pandemic. there's another problem too. covid—19 doesn't tend to make children very sick but sepsis, appendicitis and pneumonia do, and the symptoms can look the same as the virus. if a child is seriously ill with a cough or a fever or other non—specific symptoms such as abdominal pain, it probably isn't coronavirus and the key is that we want those children to come to hospital as soon as possible. that's what caught natasha out. her sonjack has a rare genetic condition so they are used to hospitals. he's recovered now, but a few weeks ago, he became very ill with what even the doctors initially thought was coronavirus. we went the whole week, you know, thinking, "tthis is covid—19, "we will ride out another day, we will ride out another day," and that kind of suppressed any of my usual gut instincts. but hospital tests showed he didn't have the virus, he had severe pneumonia. i know the covid is in the news, it's what everyone is focusing on but if you feel something isn't right, then act on it because i ignored it, i thought i was doing the right thing and it wasn't the right thing. addenbrooke's, like all hospitals, is zoned off — covid patients and the staff treating them are kept well away from these wards. parents like peter, who was in with son”, said they felt well protected. he needs his treatment, he'll get it and he gets brilliant treatment here. how has the experience been, actually being in hospital, have you felt safe? yeah, we've been in three different hospitals and every time, as houses. so it's business as usual on these wards. their advice is, if your child is obviously very ill and you're not sure what to do, seek medical help. richard wescott, bbc news, addenbrooke's hospital in cambridge. in the last hour we saw the second prime ministers' questions with borisjohnson and labour leader sir keir starmer. there was a lot of talk about care homes and other topics. let's get all the political reaction from westminster from jo coburn. thank you, jane. it was not a co mforta ble thank you, jane. it was not a comfortable session for boris johnson, the second boat at the dispatch box with keir starmer. this on the day that some restrictions have been used in england. keir starmer interrogated the prime minister on the situation in care homes and the sobering death toll there. he did into task —— she took him to task on the government is not advice in mid—march, asking why it was back to him it looked as if the government was saying that any outbreak in care homes would be unlikely. we now know there has been an epidemic in care homes at the number of deaths there are no beginning to fall. he said there was the government that was slow to act that it was clear —— when it was clear that there were large numbers of deaths in care homes. how could the prime minister explain 10,000 excess deaths in care homes compared to the same period of time last year? to the same period of time last yea r? let to the same period of time last year? let us talk to three mps. let's get some reaction now from the conservative mp, saqib bhatti, labour's shadow treasury minister, pat mcfadden, and the snp's deputy leader at westminster, kirsty blackman. welcome. borisjohnson welcome. boris johnson didn't welcome. borisjohnson didn't have detailed answers to the questions i just outlined that were set by keir starmer. should you have a dp will have a right to know exactly what has been going on in care homes? what i think it's really interesting is that obviously keir starmer is very forensic in the way he approaches premise of questions. i did a brief look at some of the quotes he was quoting, it does look likely you took them out of context, regarding the spread of the transmission and the guidance at the time. what the guidance said at the time. what the guidance said at the time was that, while there was no infection in the community, it is unlikely to spread at that time because the infection was not present at that point. it was also a caveat it and saying that they would be updating the guidance shortly. you plod a point i would like to make is that currently the opposition seems to be playing a form of politics and i have to stress that we are still in the middle of a crisis. it is not over and we have just set out a pathway to come out of the lock and trying to come out of the lock and trying to play that sort of politics, i have to question whether that is the right thing to do? will have a time to review what was done, the opposition should do that, but i do not think today is that time. is that what labour are doing? these are questions for the enquiry that will come later on? not at all. what keirstarmer will come later on? not at all. what keir starmer was trying to do today was get an accurate picture of how many people had died. on the official figures, this has killed over 30,000 people. what he pointed out was that there are 18,000 extra deaths, more than we would normally take, from care homes in april, yet the government figure for care home deaths from the virus is much more, and he simply asked borisjohnson to explain the disparity between those two figures. this is what irresponsible opposition should do. the least the public have a right to is how many people this virus is going, particularly at a time with the government is trying to ease the work done and get people back to work. we can only do that if we are properly on top of the death rate from this virus, which in this country has sadly been very high. from this virus, which in this country has sadly been very highlj would put it to the fact that we are on top of the figures coming out, we are monitoring rate of infection, and to go back to our earliest point, going back and try do say that this guidance on march 12 was not correct and why did i say this, it did not achieve anything. it did not save lives. what does save lives isa not save lives. what does save lives is a £600 million that has been put into infection control in care homes and making sure that we are getting testing done to the care quality commission i making sure that we are shooting the most vulnerable and helping to manage the strain on the nhs. we are still in the middle of a crisis and this is not the right way to port—au—prince. crisis and this is not the right way to port-au-prince. although we are socially distancing and there aren't any mp5 here, some of the familiar noises in the house of parliament due to go off, hence the bells by may. just all that, the prime minister did say that we had to wait for a true and clear picture on excess mortality rates once and i threw this pandemic. are you prepared to wait for that? the government have been publishing figures all the way through and we had a daily grass of how the death rate compared to other countries, which has been published every day for the last seven weeks. it has now been withdrawn under suspicion as it has been withdrawn because it shows the uk as having the worst death toll in europe. we have got to keep giving the public the maximum information, but on social care, it isa information, but on social care, it is a longer term issue. we have to do get on top of the death rate that is currently happening in care homes and care settings and the truth is that for far too long the sector has been treated like a poor relation. people who work in it are not paid well enough and it has not had as higha well enough and it has not had as high a priority as it should. we have got to sort this out for the long term after this crisis, as well as dealing with the immediate issue of the death rate in care homes. personally, i will come to you in one minute. just to get a final response. “— one minute. just to get a final response. —— kirsty. should the government reinstate that graph we can see comparisons with other european countries? this is precisely this kind of thing that i am talking about. i am not going to focus on the grass, i think the information that has been given to the public is excellent, the eye getting daily briefings, and we are getting daily briefings, and we are getting our —— it is not achieve anything focusing on one graph or another. although it is interesting that the government use that graph for the first six weeks or so. kirsty, has been something of a new row over the net —— messages this week. nicola sturgeon says she wants to focus on stay—at—home. is this the beginning of a further divergence between scotland and england? nicola sturgeon has said the error message remains to be stay—at—home, and boris johnson could have said today that his message is for england are not releva nt message is for england are not relevant to scotland. we have got different —— relevant to scotland. we have got different — — different relevant to scotland. we have got different —— different designs happening. we are at a different point will be doing our number is probably slightly higher in scotland than in england. he was given that opportunity by ian black wrote to make clear you were speaking for the people of england add to the people of england, i did not take that opportunity, so i think boris johnson has failed to ensure that the message is clear and the problem with that is that it is genuinely people's lives that are at risk,... and i understand that that is your complaint, but are you saying that you would like they are to be convergence? that you should be all singing from the same hymn sheet has not or could it be different m essa g es not or could it be different messages in the uk? there absolutely could be different messages and if the science is different in different parts of the uk, it is absolutely understandable that there may be different approaches to releasing the lockdown at different points. we have all been very clear that he would like to continue before nation approach but the reality is that england wants to move more click —— quickly on this and that is their choice. boris johnson is to make clear that he is not speaking to people in scotland, wales or northern ireland when he has changed his message. our message continues to be stay—at—home. has changed his message. our message continues to be stay-at-home. keir starmer has written to borisjohnson on the issue we were talking about earlier, to clarify the advice. perhaps an outbreak wasn't inevitable or likely in care homes. city clarify? i think my view this is clearly set out that the paragraph was taken out of context by keir starmer, and i'm sure the tea m by keir starmer, and i'm sure the team will be looking at this and trying to understand exactly what the correct approach should be. i should stress that what the guidance at the time was is that it should be open to being updated and rather than being any outbreak or incidence of coronavirus, there is no likelihood at that time i watch the 12 for that to spread, which makes sense. thank you to the three mps for joining sense. thank you to the three mps forjoining me. back to you, jane. now it's time for a look at the weather with darren bett. typically only 11 to 1a degrees today and the cloud that has bubbled up today and the cloud that has bubbled up while right away. winds are dropping, northern scotland will seek more cloud and showing outbreaks of rain, but elsewhere there is the risk of a touch of frost. tomorrow will have a bright and sunny cloud increasing to the day, we will see this increasing site with over scotland and northern ireland, bringing with it showers, some ireland, bringing with it showers, some sunshine still in the afternoon, dressed in the south—west. tablature afternoon, dressed in the south—west. tablatu re is afternoon, dressed in the south—west. tablature is a shade higher than today but still a cool wind blowing across southern england and the english channel. that should clear out by the time we get into friday. lots of cloud coming down in the breeze, the best of the sun sign in southern parts of england, where temperatures are continuing to rise up temperatures are continuing to rise up to 80 degrees. most places will be dry but we will get shows a part of scotland. —— showers. this is bbc news. i'm jane hill. the headlines... the chancellor says it's very likely the uk is in a significant recession, as a result of the coronavirus lockdown. it is now, yes, very likely that the uk economy will face a significant recession this year and we are in the middle of that as we speak. at prime minister's questions, boris johnson promises another £600 million for infection control in care homes — but is challenged on thousands of excess deaths amongst residents. can the prime minister give us the government's views on these unexplained deaths? he is right to draw attention, as i have said, to the tragedy that has been taking place in care homes. the easing of lockdown begins in england — people are encouraged to return to work, though avoid public

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