Powers to take action against individuals is what they are doing is effectively trying to destroy Peoples Pensions for the future. Anthonyjoshua produces the performance of his career to win the world heavyweight title with a knockout at wembley stadium. 100 days into his presidency Donald Trump Tells a Rally Media Criticism is fake news. Now on bbc news, in a change to the schedule, fiona bruce has been speaking to kate and gerry mccann about the disappearance of their daughter madeleine in portugal ten years ago. This is a very difficult time of year and it is the 10 year anniversary. Obviously an anniversary. Obviously an anniversary you hoped he would never see. Yes. I mean, i never thought we would still be in this situation, so far along the line. It is a huge amount of time. In some ways it feels like it was only a few weeks ago and in other ways it has felt really long. But it is a hard marker of time. You refer to it on your website as stolen time. Yes, it is time we should have had with madeleine. We should have been a family of five all that time. Yes, it does feel stolen. And you could never have imagined ten years ago that you would still be in this situation. I think the situation is that we tried everything in our power to not have a long, protracted Missing Persons case like this. It is devastating. Early on i threw myself into trying to do everything we could to help find her. Obviously that hasnt worked yet but we are still looking for her. That is the most important thing. There is still hope. And how are you doing as a family . The pair of you . hope. And how are you doing as a family . The pair of you . I think we have a new normality really, particularly probably over the last five years, since the metropolitan Police Actually started the investigation. It has taken huge pressure off us individually and as a family. Because before that you are trying to fight the case yourselves, trying to encourage the police to look for madeleine and get the Portuguese Police involved. Yes. I think the key thing was the injustice of it and after the initial portuguese investigation closed, essentially nobody other than us was actually doing anything proactively to try and find madeleine, and i think every parent can understand that what you want and what we have aspired to is to have all the reasonable lines of inquiry followed to their logical conclusion as far as you can do that. And that is incredibly frustrating. You talked at the time about what a blow that was. Frustrating. You talked at the time about what a blow that wasm frustrating. You talked at the time about what a blow that was. It was terrible, it was horrible, and as much as we tried and we were fortunate to have so much donations into madeleines fund and to use that to try and investigate, your hands are tied. You dont have the powers that Law Enforcement have got. How much of a difference has it made . For the last five years the police have been actively investigating. Absolutely huge and i cant emphasise enough just what a massive burden that has lifted from us massive burden that has lifted from us and those around us and also knowing that the lines of investigation are being pursued. The inspector commissioner spoke during the week, i know. A lot of those lines have been taken to a conclusion. That is almost as important as finding who is actually responsible. But knowing those lines have been shut down. The police have talked about one significantly that they are still pursuing. Can you tell me anything about that . The investigation is very much in the hands of the metropolitan police. There are clearly ongoing inquiries and from our perspective that is the important thing. They have managed to pull so much together and sift through so much information. Now we seem through so much information. Now we seem to be on several lines of inquiry rather than tens or hundreds. There four Police Working on it full time. You know there have been criticisms that the police should not be spending so much money still so many years on this case. Should not be spending so much money still so many years on this caselj think that criticism is quite unfair actually. I know it is one single missing child, but there are millions of british tourists that go to the algarve year on year and essentially you have got the british subject, the subject of a crime, and other crimes came to light following madeleines abduction that involved british tourists, so i think prosecuting to a reasonable end is what you would expect. But of course it doesnt happen. Sadly there are many children that go missing and the resources are not deployed. |j think others within Law Enforcement have made it very clear that this type of strange abduction is exceptionally rare actually and we need to put it into perspective. It is partly why madeleines case has attracted so much attention, thrown in with many other ingredients. This type of abduction is exceptionally rare. One of the Police Officers in portugal has been a thorn in your side for many years. He was thrown off investigation but then he wrote the book and he presented a documentary presenting a view of what happened to madeleine which implicate you and you thought it through the courts. At the moment, you have lost and he has won. Is this the end for you now . Are you going to continue to fight him . |j going to continue to fight him . think the short answer is we have got to because the lastjudgment i think is terrible. So we will be appealing. We havent launched that yet but it will be going to the european courts. I think it is important to say that when we launched the action it was eight years ago and the circumstances were very different. We felt there was real damage being done to the search for madeleine at that time, particularly in portugal. He was effectively suggesting that you had disposed of madeleine. People need to realise this, and the Assistant Commissioner has said it again this week at the portuguese have said it and the final report has said it, there is no evidence that madeleine is dead. And the prosecutor said there is no evidence that we were involved in any crime. And really saying anything opposite is not justice. It is notjustice for madeleine. I have found it tall incomprehensible, to be honest. It has been very upsetting and it has caused a lot of frustration and angen caused a lot of frustration and anger, which is a really negative emotion. I think we just need to channel that. I just have emotion. I think we just need to channel that. Ijust have to hope that in the long run justice will prevail and all will be well. think for us personally but for the Re St Of Think for us personally but for the rest of the family as well. The children . Yes, and ourwiderfamily, our own parents, brothers and sisters etc. We have got to challenge it and we will do. The other thing that struck me when i was looking through various internet Search Engines before i did this interview was quite how much cruel, distressing, horribly tasteless commentary there is out there about you, about madeleine, people giving their opinions about what they think happened, even though they dont know you and they were nowhere near and they cant possibly know. How do you deal with that . I think social media has huge pros and huge ponds. On the downside, with all that has been written, i guess we protect ourselves really. We dont go there, to be honest. We are aware of things that get said, because people alert us that get said, because people alert us to it. I guess our worry is for our children. Of course. Because they are now 12. They are at an age where social media becomes increasingly important. We dont wa nt increasingly important. We dont want to dwell on the negative aspects too long but i think in this era of fake news, it is extremely topical, and i think people need to think twice before they write, and effects it has on it. Certainly i know ourselves with our own experience both in the Mainstream Media and also on the internet, we are just not going to believe that until i see evidence of it, convincing. I am sure there is a very small minority of people who spend their time doing it but it has totally inhibited what we do. Personally we dont use social media although we have used it in madeleines campaign. But for our twins who are growing up in an era when Mobile Technology is used all the time, we dont want them not to be able to use it, the same way that their peers do. How do you protect them . The most important thing, and we had some excellent advice earlier on, is that we have been as open with them as we can. We have told them about things and also that people are writing things that are simply not true. They need to be aware of that. They are not really at the age where they are, you know, on the internet and other websites. But they soon will be. They are coming to that stage and they are with their friends etc. We have tried to educate them as well because it is notjust ask that have fallen victim to the downside of social media. Does that shock you . It shocked me a Little Things that people say. I think it has been shocking, that aspect of human nature that i hadnt really encountered before. Ithink nature that i hadnt really encountered before. I think it is so farfrom encountered before. I think it is so far from how you would behave or people that you know would behave. It is striking. And quite hard really to get your head round. Why would somebody write that . Why would somebody add to somebodys upset . Why would somebody in a position of ignorance to Something Like that . We have seen the worst and the best of human nature. It has been a personal experience, rather than on the internet, and that has been overwhelmingly to see the Positive Side of human nature and we need to remember that. We have had excellent support over the last ten years and now we are getting Media Attention on the tenth anniversary, we are starting to see that again. on the tenth anniversary, we are starting to see that again. I think it is true. Social media, whatever, because it is so awful and upsetting, it does kind of stand out and become more of a Talking Point really. Actually the main thing that we really. Actually the main thing that we have experienced is the goodness of people and the support that we have had over ten years which has not wavered over all that time. How different is your life now to the life that when you have a child you consciously or subconsciously imagine . How different is your life now to what you must have imagined all those years ago . That is a hard one because it is such a long time. Before madeleine was taken we felt we had achieved the perfect Nuclear Family of five. We had that for a short period. I suppose it is almost the same way as if your child becomes ill or dies, like many other families have suffered, then your world vision is altered and you have got to adapt. I think that is a theme that speaking to other people who have gone through terribly traumatic processors with children and other loved ones, that is something that gradually happens, and you adapt, and you have a new normality. Unfortunately for us, the new normality at the minute is a family of four. But we have adapted and that is important. As we have said about the investigation, the la st said about the investigation, the last five years in particular have allowed us to really properly devote time to looking after the twins and ourselves and of course carry on with our work. At some point you have got to realise that time is not frozen. I think both of us realised that we have owed it to the twins to make sure that their life is as fulfilling as they deserve. We have certainly tried our best to achieve that. Certainly on the face of it you appear to have stayed so strong asafamily you appear to have stayed so strong as a family unit. I wonder how you have managed to do that. It is so easy to blame each other when a cata clysm befalls a easy to blame each other when a cataclysm befalls a family. That is such an easy trap to fall into. dont think there has ever been any blame, fortunately. I think what people do say is you dont realise how strong you are until you have no option and i think that is very true. Obviously massive events like this cause a lot of reaction, a lot of trauma and upset, but ultimately, you have got to keep going, especially when you have got other children involved. Some of that is subconscious. I think your mind and your body take over to a certain extent. But if you cant change something immediately, you have got to go with it and do the best that you can, and that is all we have tried to do. As gerry said, one of our goals, ultimately finding madeleine, but to ensure that sean and amelie have a happy and fulfilling life and we will do everything we can to ensure that. Life for you has changed in different ways, kate. You were a gp and he stopped working and you havent gone back to full time work. I assume the idea of someone else looking after your children seemed unthinkable after what happened. You just needed to be with the children and just be there. Certainly initially, absolutely. The kids werent even in school. I wanted to be there. I didnt want to let them out of my sight. There was obviously a lot going on, a lot of campaign work, a lot of emotion. I am actually back at work now. I am doing Something Different to what i was doing. What are you doing now . I have back into medicine but a different area, not general practice. That obviously takes up some time. That was a big step as well, to re establishing as normal a life as possible. Life is busy. I think in some ways. I dont know if this is personality or coping strategy, but sometimes it is a little bit too frenetic but it keeps us little bit too frenetic but it keeps us going. We dont dwell too much on things unnecessarily. I think there isa things unnecessarily. I think there is a self protection thing there as well. We do have a very full life and as normal as we can make it. How much do you make madeleine are part of that . Do you talk about madeleine . Is she a name that crops up madeleine . Is she a name that crops up every day . Yes. She is always pa rt of up every day . Yes. She is always part of our life. There are photographs around the house. Obviously at this time of year, then we cant even have conversations that dont involve her. The kids know we are doing an interview today and the anniversary is coming up. She is still part of it, but obviously. I think every kind of event that we do, whether it be a Birthday Orfamily Event that we do, whether it be a birthday or family occasion or even an achievement or something, that is kind of when you really feel her absence. It is slightly different to how it was in the early days when everything we were doing was to find madeleine. Now we are having to get on and live our lives as well. It is not that any date she is not there, if you know what i mean. Last time we if you know what i mean. Last time we talk, you are still buying birthday and christmas presents for madeleine. Are you still doing that . We still do that. I couldnt not. You go to the shops and you think madeleine would be this age now and you think what would she want . madeleine would be this age now and you think what would she want . I do. I have got to think about what age she is and something that whenever we she is and something that whenever we find her will still be appropriate. A lot of thought goes into it. I couldnt not. She is still our daughter and she will a lwa ys still our daughter and she will always be our daughter. Kate always does the present buying. always be our daughter. Kate always does the present buying. I always do the present buying and there will be another one coming up in the next few weeks. Madeleine would be how old . 14. And this anniversary, how will you get through that day . Like i put will you get through that day . Like iput in will you get through that day . Like i put in my message on a website, every day is another day without madeleine. It isjust every day is another day without madeleine. It is just that number, that 10 year mark, that makes it more significant, i think, because it isa more significant, i think, because it is a reminder of how much time has gone by and obviously ten is a big number. Ithink has gone by and obviously ten is a big number. I think we will get by as we big number. I think we will get by as we have any other year, really, surrounded by family and friends. Obviously we will be there remembering madeleine as we always have. I think the day and the poignancy of it, we dont tend to go back because it is so draining. But inevitably on anniversaries and on her birthday, they are by far the hardest days, by far. I think it is important though, because despite how difficult these days are, just keeping in mind actually how much progress we have keeping in mind actually how much progress we have made. Nothing is ever progress we have made. Nothing is ever going to be quick enough from our point of view. But the last five yea rs, our point of view. But the last five yea rs , we our point of view. But the last five yea rs, we have our point of view. But the last five years, we have come a our point of view. But the last five years, we have come a long way. And there is progress. There are some very credible lines of inquiry that the police are working on. And while there is no evidence to give us any negative news, that hope is still there. It really is there in your hearts . The hope that one day you will be reunited with your daughter. No parent is going to give up on their child unless they know for certain the child is dead. We just dont have any evidence. My hope of madeleine being out there is no less Thanit Madeleine being out there is no less than it was almost ten years ago. Apart from those first 48 hours, nothing actually has changed since then. The difficult thing has always been how would we find her . You are relying on the police doing everything they can and you are relying on somebody with information coming forward. I think that is so important. Everyone thinks what could have happened but some of the scenarios with other people who have been abducted and kept, they are just so unbelievable that you think how could that have happened . That is probably what is going to happen with madeleines case as well. People will say it is incredible. We just know. The metropolitan police underlined that last week. You cant apply normal logic to someone who commits a crime like this. You try and think surely if they have done that, they would have done that, but you cant. But you must also look at cases like the case of ben needham who went missing in recent decades past. It is interesting that the people who have got the most experience, the National Centre for exploited children, in the us, one of the earlier things that stuck with me ever since, the younger at the time a child is taken, the more likely they have been taken to be kept, and that could equally apply to ben needham, who was younger than madeleine, and that is something that we have got to factor in actually. It could be a relief but in another way it is an unconscionable thought for you. In another way it is an unconscionable thought for youm course. It is ten years. How much she has changed, what age she would be now. Ithink she has changed, what age she would be now. I think the she has changed, what age she would be now. Ithink the key she has changed, what age she would be now. I think the key thing she has changed, what age she would be now. Ithink the key thing is she has changed, what age she would be now. I think the key thing is to find madeleine. If she is still alive, recognise who she is or we need to find the person or people responsible for taking her. You must have imagined over the years if you saw her what he would say to her. Yes, i think i try not to go there too often, to be honest. It is one of those real bittersweet kind of thoughts. Ten years is a long time. But ultimately we are her mum and dad and she is our daughter and he has got a brother and sister, grandparents, lots of family and friends, so it would be absolutely fine. It would be. It is beyond words, really. We will cope with anything. I know that doing this interview was something you thought long and hard about. It is not something you particularly want to do and certainly not something you we re do and certainly not something you were looking forward to. What do you hope by doing an interview like this . What do you hope that people will hear . What is the message you wa nt to will hear . What is the message you want to get out . That there is still hope, really. There isnt any appeal. Most of the media we have donein appeal. Most of the media we have done in recent years has been around that and this is unusual. We are marking the anniversary. I think it has been good for the general public to hear the police say there is no evidence that she is dead and that there is an active investigation and there is an active investigation and there is an active investigation and there is still hope. Certainly from my point of view, somebody knows what has happened. And we have had so what has happened. And we have had so many supporters who are still with us, people that we dont know are still there, and i guess ijust wa nt are still there, and i guess ijust want them to be reassured that there is progress being made. You know, it might not be as quick as we want, but there is Real Progress being made. We need to take heart from that and we have just got to go with the process and follow it through, whatever it takes, as long as it takes. There is still hope that we can find madeleine. If you do find madeleine you will be able to show her everything you did to try and find her and you never gave up. Absolutely. I guess for herjust knowing there have been so many people willing her home. It is so important. Good morning. The Bank Holiday Weather continues on a mixed team across the country. We have got some rain pouring into the south west of england. This is the scene in dorset a few minutes ago. The Grey Rain Clouds and the winds picking up. Further north east across the country, different story and this is northumberland. Some blue sky and sunshine around. But it is going to turn wet and windy increasingly from the south west. We have this area of low pressure pushing this Weather Front in. We have seen rain working in across the channel islands, the Isles Of Scilly and devon and cornwall, pushing into pembrokeshire now. Further east, the cloud is well broken so there is sunshine to be enjoyed for many of us. Wherever you are, breezy feel. This South Easterly Wind is developing and particularly breezy weather is heavy rain in the south west of england. This afternoon it will not be raining all the time. Some dry intervals but also heavy bursts and a rumble of thunder across devon and dorset and the Odd Splash In Sussex in the afternoon. East anglia, Northern Parts of england, looking fine and dry and some sunshine towards the north wales as well. Northern ireland is on fine and dry to the afternoon and fine and dry into the evening. A fine day for scotla nd into the evening. A fine day for scotland with temperatures up to 17 in the north west. Into the evening as low pressure drifts eastwards across england and wales, we continue to see cloud and outbreaks of rain with heavy bursts in the south west of england. Further north across scotland and Northern Ireland it is clear and dry up with just a slight touch of frost in rural parts of northern scotland. On bike holiday monday it should be showery across Southern Parts of england and wales. The odd spot of rain the Northern Ireland. Brighter weather in between the showers and further north across the country, scotland and Northern Ireland having a decent day with ten pitches in the mid teens. Cooler around the east coast as we teens. Cooler around the east coast as we bring in the cooler breeze. The warmest and driest weather to be found further west with some showers across the east. That theme continues as we head through the week. With High Pressure in charge it is looking largely dry once again with decent sunshine especially towards the west but we will have cooler, cloudier and showery conditions at times in the east. You will find more details on the weather for the week ahead on the website. This is bbc news. The headlines at 11am both labour and the conservatives claim theyd improve workers conditions theresa may rules out a vat rise and promises to protect pensioners. We will also be introducing greater powers to take action against individuals if what they were doing was effectively about trying to destroy Peoples Pensions for the future. Madeleine mccann has been missing for ten years but in an interview to mark the anniversary her parents say they still hope shell be found. No parents going to give up on their child unless they know for certain their childs died we just dont have any evidence. 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