Of a show he had done from a couple of good friends and we went up in 2002 to see his senior thesis. He walked around the corner. Not my finest hour. It was pretty good. Senior thesis, not so much. Walked around the corner and i promptly dropped something showing my swap this immediately. He dropped his soda. He saw me dropping a soda and rubbing into the carpet and a, im going to change her life. I might have just said hello. The first time we sat down to talk was to talk about that. Charactersis a great but should be in more of the show. Washington heights should be the first song. This guy is going to make my show a lot better. He is after the same thing i am. Demo versiond this and i had two years to wait to meet him. Charlie what was the buzz about this one . Bold. In doing things the way they should be done. Charlie sort of like Alexander Hamilton . If only i had known. He was the freshman that was in the played the senior debt. He was the guy writing the show and producing it his freshman year and freshman did not do that. My initial hearings of him, which were the whispers of this slightly agora via the slightly aggravating, overanxious freshman, his refusal to play by the rules. I heard about the show he wrote the next year when i graduated. Once i heard that, i realized he was after something that was full of depth and that ambition was not without reason or merit. Charlie did you feel like that at your time, you could add value . Yes. But i felt like i was in the process. I just turned 25. I was in the process of trying to surround myself with things i could not do. I was looking for fellowship. I was looking for other people who seemed to be on the same frequency. From heights, i thought we might have a similar pool of things to draw from. Charlie fluent in the same language. English,hich is for me and for him, something else. Lin showed was he wanted to not beays music focused on. When people talk about, what do i want to write about, well what if i wrote about the neighborhood where i was . What if i wrote about the neighborhood i wanted to belong to or try to find your way and establish an identity . That was somewhere unarticulated with me. Charlie with todays music. When did you first hear the idea of hamlet . Rehearsing the show with the music director who went on to play at the white house. It was somewhere when the ask came through. Lin had talked about it. I have an early email where lin took a vacation where he grabs the book. The same as vacation where he went to mexico that i keep reading about. He grabbed this big book by ron chrnow and we were instant hatsaging, and there is a gc i sent that was august 1, 2008. Not yesterday. Charlie what did it say . Hey, i am drinking a lot of this kind of our call. [laughter] alcohol. [laughter] mencatching up on mad and reading this hamilton book. Charlie did any part of you, when you realize this was much more than this book he is reading, did you think, man, that is crazy. No. I have been down crazy road. [laughter] this was not crazy. I stopped doubting him in 2002. When i first met him and realized in that initial conversation what he was after and the passion of his pursuit. I would be foolish to not listen. Youlie when did you know are better if he is working with you . Lin 2002. I know he was the right fit because he was saying all the right things. Charlie saying all the right things . Grew up inommy virginia. Tommy grew up in the part of the country i dont know. He is also well represented in the show. His mother is a historical architect. He comes by all that as honestly as he came by all the things in the heights. That is also with him. He heard the second song i wrote for the show and said you could be writing this a lot faster. It is great that you are taking your time, but a song a year is not a great output. Charlie we will be here a while. Lin we just started plotting. That day, started plotting. What are we going to work towards . Credit, andins when the thing happened at the white house, it did not exist. There was no video of it. Saying a film that. It went really well. I wonder ifit will see the light of day. Then they decided to put out this youtube on whitehouse. Gov. Monthsere were six between me performing it and it appearing online. He said it went really well. Great. Where do you want to have lunch . Charlie so did you know what everything was talking about . Tommy i had heard the song. He played a song for me. The other thing i think about this, all of the sliding doors that needed to slide into place for us to be sitting and talking to you is that if lin had choked on that white house stage, i mean it happens to be something known matter how many times i watch it. No, you should do it like that. He knocked it out of the park. That happens. It comes out six months later. We were doing a benefit for a show we had and lin decided to perform a song. We are looking back through emails, which is Opening Night is, a chance to go back through correspondence and say with how foolish we are then. After looking at emails from 2011 and lin is going to perform a song he wrote. It was a standalone song and it was in the run down for the night. In the next email, my shot is in that run down. That wasconversation that nudged you to do that, he does my shot by himself. 98 people are watching. We are now in the summer of 2011. A song every 60 months or so. We are standing at this party afterwards. Everyone is coming up and passing his back and wiping his brow and im sort of staring at him. You know, we should get going because it would be great if you were younger than hamilton at the time this thing was finished. [laughter] something kicked in because the next day we had talked the night. Lets find anywhere to do this. Pick a date six months from now. [applause] [no audio] lets try to get a dozen songs. The next day, i think we have a plan. The needle dropped between that performance and the next morning. Charlie there is a bit of Alexander Hamilton in him. Pushing, urging, lets get it going. 16 months is not enough. One song is not enough for 60 months. Tommy a lot of the moments between snobby and sunny in heights, which is what we did coming out of our early adulthood. I look at scenes between washington and hamilton and i think lin is writing about us. [laughter] whos. T sure who is it is a familiar theme. It depends on the moment. I think the two of us have recognized in each other this ability to use the other standard for our own procedure. I hear lin conversations when he is on stage and i am talking to one of my designers were looking at the picture in trying to figure something out without the benefit of having him right next to me. I hear him. That certainly allows some sort of expedited process because there was a moment what we were working on something and someone wasd hearing the song for the first time and i looked at him and he looked at me and he said, i got it. You dont know what im going to say. He said, i got it. I said, write it down. He wrote it down. We finished the moment and i asked, what was i going to say . Verbatim,id he say it in an annoying kid voice, but he said it. Now we are at a telekinesis level where he knew. It was an early thing with a few of us in a room. Charlie you are just hearing about this . Tommy it happens unconsciously and it is a testament to our other collaborators, alex and andy. The hive mind we talk about. The reality is charlie make sure we are telling the same story. it is not only finishing the other sentence, is having the paragraph in their head before you say it. Charlie do you have to hold it in as well or is it simply giving him the surroundings that make what he does better . Tommy it depends. It is song to song. Some of these things cannot fully formed. s [laughter] some of the smartest comments good, keepad our going. Lin absolutely. But there is a moment where moment and it unlocks the song. One of the songs we will for broadway, washington. Washington is stepping down from office and i have written versions of it and it all feels labored and it does not feel like something someone says. Tommy says, offhandedly, because he is a son of virginia, you know, there is also washingtons lying and the figtree fine and figtree tree. I dont know what you are talking about. Washingtons favorite bible quote. Vineone gets their own and fig tree. I looked up the passage and it was exactly what we needed to capture. It was washingtons favorite bible quote underscoring how his main concern was the safety of the future of this nation. It was so bored beautifully it was so beautifully put by the bible. I cant improve on the bible. I just need to quote it. Tommy knew that. It totally unlocked the moment. Tommy it was the washingtonhamilton moment. I felt the need to investigate. [laughter] the other thing in that situation, which is a credit to the speed at which all of our experience let us do, we were rehearsing in the other room. And he was running a sequence and i popped into the place where lin was. This was like a six minute conversation and he is banging his head against the wall. We are trying to figure this thing out. I am always very struck when will lin says he does not know something. That will happens once every seven and a half months. We have the conversation and he comes in 45 minutes later and says, i got it. Once the penny drops were the faucet is on or whatever image you want to use, it is unlocked and it just happens. That song was then done. He took that seed and he grew it and you walk in the next time and that is a redwood. It does not become a sapling. Charlie the other feeling for that . Lin when the right idea hits . Absolutely. Charlie seeing it become a redwood. Lin yeah. And it is song to song. There are songs like the room where it happened that take weeks because it is a crossword puzzle. You are trying to find the best way to impart that information. Thatis a song called would be enough, and her husband has been fired and she is pregnant with her first child and basically says i need you to come home at the end of the day. I wrote that song 45 minutes, cried the whole time i was writing it. It is about as pure of expression as i think what we hope for in our relationships as i can get. Require history. It does not require knowing all of these historical facts. At herust a wifes anger husband. I dont care about what you make and what you do. Those moments you are grateful comes at your piece. That song was written at 45 minutes. A lot of time, you are picking at it to unearth it. Reading aboutber writers and how they work and i think it was hemingway who talked about the fact that you are always writing. If something gets unlocked in an hour or a day or two. Something we did not know we needed. We knew we would have this wait for it idea that we talked about, just as we talked about the idea for a washingtonhamilton moment. That song felt right for a moment in acta two to see our two heroes come together and have this one last chance to express their affection, to speak to the country, to do all of these things. That is the one i kept saying, yeah. Then there is the song with those guys. He would say, yeah, but look what i wrote. There was so much room to expand and to cover. When they come out, there is not a lot of shutdown in the writer part of him. Then it is about unlocking. Unlocked, it has a place to go. Charlie how important is it to have someone that can do that . Lin it is the whole ballgame. It is the whole ballgame. Requires tommy has to know how to unlock when he is creating the costume. He has to know the right thing to say to paul when they are having their meeting, just like he has to come to me and say i am not quite there yet, what if you did this. It is what i do in a thousand different directions. I am in all of that. Actor andds to every when a word of praise is exactly what is needed or whether it is a deep philosophical discussion or whether it is good, keep going. He coaches every person he interacts with. That is super. Charlie choosing actors. Tommy the fun part. Charlie why . Tommy putting the team together, that is the thing we talk about a lot. When you do a show, the show starts at 8 00. Between 8 00 and when the show ends, i know they will be standing, how quickly they will move through the moment. The show is to an half hours a day. It is the 10 hours in the dark that matter. One of the things we talk about constantly is try to find the people who can do the job between the lines but lets try to find human beings we want to be around. That takes time. But when you have material that gives the actors so much bloodation and so much and fuel, im not always able to say i know who it is, but im getting pretty good at identifying when they walk in the room. Got this particular company, which is as fine a company that has ever been assembled. We were all trying to put something out there that was unlike what we have done. Charlie let me take you through the characters. George washington. Needs sometimes tempering. [laughter] always Chris Jackson. And ans a dignity inherent understanding of what it is to lead that you can coach and you cant teach. You cant coach hype. Chris jackson has it. He was given that and we have understood in our dozen years understandg him to that if you want someone to play the greatest american superhero, you know, who can also play george, who can also play a guy named george was scared sometimes and did not know what he wanted to do and wanted to go home and have that humanity know, lin keeps holding onto the idea of who these people could be as characters and Chris Jackson was someone who was never far from any conversation about washington was able to do in our show. Charlie aaron burr. s bestdespite lin efforts to play aaron burr [laughter] charlie what does that mean . I know what it means. Into lin wrote himself snobby and out of burr. Lin this guy is getting pretty singy. [laughter] tommy you know your skill set. Lynn has said this many times. There is a little of every character in lin and there is a lot of lin in all these characters. The hamilton part of lin understands going after something with focus and determination and blinders. The part of lin that also wants to make sure it is the right moment is the burr part of lin. He writes them both with equal compassion. What leslie provides in this show is the other temperature of lins hamilton and hamilton, the character. Part of the conversation we were having in the show is the show has to be about hamilton, not lin playing hamilton. Lins generosity of spirit is like a good host. He makes sure everyone has eaten before he is. I will eat in a minute. Here is something for you, George Washington. Everyone else gets theirs and the last thing that gets written is the dual. There is a reason for that and it is that spirit of generosity. Lin im a good host. [laughter] Charlie Thomas jefferson. I were working on the show early on, when it was just the two of us kicking the tires and we were sure we wanted lafayette to come back as Thomas Jefferson. Doubling characters. His friend would become his flow. His closest friend would become his son. This was a secret that we knew about that we also happen to know about you who can do this . They also have to do this, but they have to be a better rapper than hamilton. Oh, it is w. Remember him and i saying, i amateur what you are doing a couple of weeks, but if you could cancel it, it would be great. We are trying some stuff out and working on a new show with lin. We had known him. Our friend anthony introduced us years before. Lin had been on stage with him. He has a relationship with the audience which is chemical. Anything looking at other than him. Thomas jefferson and lafayette needed to be that powerful to be on hamiltons level. Daveed has proven day in and day out that he has those qualities. Charlie i said to him earlier, if you come back for a third term, you cant wait for his inference. Which is exactly the qualities you talk about. These are success stories. Did you ever get it wrong . Did you say, lets go here and it turned out either you thought about it, you got close to it, the casting. Tommy the casting extends to everyone on stage. The fullness of this ensemble is the fact the storytelling supported by everyone on stage, that is something that made our rigger extend all the way down the line. Everyone down the stage needed to be able to interview and dimensional eyes every moment. There is nowhere to hide up here. Charlie what is interesting is it is not just, here is the music man. It is like a real gimmick he has. [laughter] charlie here is the music man. But you know exactly if that music is missing something. Orneeds to be underlined needs to be expanded. I have an instinct to it and im smart enough to surround myself with people that if i cant discern that, i can turn to our music director alex, or andy, and identify collectively what that is. It is something we talk about all the time. This is a shift for me. When you are young director, you have to feel like you have all the answers and you get to a certain place in your career and you realize identifying the best ideas more important than having the best idea. When you are working with people at this level charlie it is called judgment. Tommy that was the new level for me. Charlie you are confident in your judgment . Tommy yes. Getting older is about silencing the noise and listening to your instinct. That little man inside of you in double indemnity that is saying, hey, him or her, or yes, you need something else. You know how to listen to that more effectively. Lin said something early on that is also true. You get a lot of ideas flying around. When you wake up the next morning with a stomach ache, one or two of them, that is probably the thing you should work on. Tommy the opportunity to get back in after offbroadway was not cutting time. It was making sure we were staying along the branch that we wanted to stay along and not breaking off and taking away the energy from the audience so the end of the show was not be fully absorbed. Lin is judicious and as ruthless as anyone i have worked with. His ego works in different ways. [laughter] charlie how does his ego work . Tommy the number one question that i get after, what does the director do, is how is lin handling this . Feud,as to do my family that would be the one that comes up. Himself and his perception of himself, it is not informed by that. It is about trying to make something he can be proud of. I think that standard is the thing that can drive him. Do i think he likes reading about himself . Yes. [laughter] lin will read the article and find the one thing that says he is not quite, or almost, and that is what he takes. Or just laugh at it. I might be on the cover of magazines. It does not mean i am a supermodel. [laughter] charlie he has talked about the 11 things. Such a collaboration. How do you take a set is this considered in the annals of musical theater a simple set were a complex . Tommy it is a simple set that is, of course, a goldberg machine. Charlie interesting. The question i have is is the set designed to fit this music . Tommy yes, because the set designer and i have worked on a few things. We knew the actors would be populating a world that would be ,rick and rope and wood and he encouraged us to be conscious of the fact that the people that were building houses back then were also building ships. I did not want it to look like a boat. I had this reaction to it. That unlocked and i thought, that is what they had. Oscar is right. Lean into that. We wanted to create a pallet. Nothing would be an obstruction. We could have a song like the end of act one that is seven or eight years, like a song like satisfied which goes over one five minutes. Because of the telescopic nature of lins writing, we wanted to make sure this environment is something that embraces the ability to move quickly and the public miss of the time. The way we try to make the second level is the operating theaters of the day. Looking at parliament. These fights were happening in front of people and privately, but if we wanted our storytellers to be witness to history as we are talking about fundamentally to tell stories and how we absorb that, then we needed to be able to be in the shadows and watch. We need to embrace the fact that the people who work in this country were doing so for all to see. Charlie and the turntable . Tommy the turntable was a late addition that are set designer mentioned in our first meeting and lets say we can do without it. We did a workshop without it in the show played and then we started thinking more. Our choreographer andy had not worked with a turntable in a play. It is like learning how to ride a bike on the moon. If you dont know how to use this thing, there is a mathematics to it that you have to understand. He understood it and taught himself how to get on top of this thing. David said, think about what we can do if it is a double turntable and we can have different directions. Someone has a better idea. Learn how to say yes. We never looked back. Charlie and then when you did the cast album . This was an elaborate studio. Notgrew up seeing seeing broadway shows, but loving cast albums. When you have are cast album, you have the aural experience of our show. We try to represent that and you imagine your own version of hamilton. It is tough to get a ticket to our show right now. It is the way it lives in the world for most of the world. It really is our ambassador, our representation of what we have created on stage to the world at large. Charlie can you do things here that you could not do it a Public Theater . Tommy you can share the show with more people. Performances grew and became deeper. The experience of doing the thing, of doing 100, 150 performances teaches something that makes it better than what i am pushing and pulling and poking. That is why a show is better to months after you open then when we are noting the show every day. Frankly, part of the job is knowing when to take my hands off. But something is saturated, when something is full and just needs there and whatever is get the nutrients out of that, you have to learn how to just watch the show and know that when you go backstage and see somebody, you are going to talk about the game, what their dog did that day, and say, see you tomorrow. That is not evil. I had two thoughts about that that is invaluable. I had two thoughts about that. Trust the people you have trusted all along. That is not hard to do with this group. Charlie what has the audience taught you . Lin the audience has taught us a lot. One, man, are they paying attention. I have learned we have nights when they are raucous. We have nights when they are silent. They both mean we are in and we are along for the ride and we are trying to catch every word they are throwing at us and every idea you are throwing at us. Moments. Tommy said it really well when he was telling us to be quiet backstage. He said, some of the loudest moments on broadway and some of the quietest on broadway, and all in one show. I can feel that in the audience. I can feel them rise and fall with us as hamilton rises and falls. They are with us. We learn an enormous amount from them. Moments where the audience explodes. We added bars to give them room to explode. Charlie is that because it is a hot topic . Lin i think it is because it is such a simple idea that we always forget. Tommy yeah. Lin of course they created the Financial System and one of the greatest countries in the world were both immigrants. Most of the people in the audience, if they are not immigrants, there parents were, their grandparents were. A ey remember and go, h [applause] charlie thank you. Remarkable partnership. Charlie Jonathan Groff is here. He plays king george the third in hamilton. He previously starred in the hbo series looking. I am pleased to have Jonathan Groff to the table for the first time. Jonathan i love this table. Charlie the table was having you here. We turn to hamilton. Why . It has such a hold on all of us. Everyone i know who lives in new york is wanting to go and waiting to go. Of linmf the genius anuel miranda is all there. What is it for you . What makes it so magical . Jonathan it is unlike anything i have ever been a part of or ever seen before. I got to see the show before i joined the cast off broadway. I said yes to doing the show before i had seen or heard anything. The actor who is playing king george offbroadway had to leave. The week after they opened to the public, i stepped in. Im friends with. Friends with lin. He is the most energetic, positive, intoxicating human being. We had met years before. He asked me to step in for this actor who was playing king george offbroadway and i said yes without having seen or heard anything because of lin. Lin is a person you say yes to. Heights and i loved it. I sat in the audience in the Public Theater and you could feel the energy in the theater before the show began. And the show began and i just wept from start to finish. Is,s so moved, as everyone by the ingenuity of the writing and the freshness in the direction. Tommys direction. The choreography and the cast and the whole idea was so incredible, let alone the story itself. It is just such an emotional, moving, inspiring piece. Then i got to go into it offbroadway and then i got to join the cast for the moved to broadway. Charlie you never saw brian . Jonathan i totally saw him do it. I flew into new york on a friday. I saw the show over the weekend, five times in a row, and i went in on tuesday. Charlie five times in a row . Jonathan yes, five times in a row. I said to lin i feel like i need therapy. Because if i see the show again and weep for three hours, i will have a mental breakdown. Charlie was it written that way or did you shape it that way . Jonathan i have this theory. I did that for two years and we had a lot of actors come through and replace. I have that sometimes people would come into a show and try to make it their own right away, i find it really annoying. My take on it is you go in, you respect what has been there before, and you try not to mess anybody up. You are there to come in, stand in and do things. I came in, did the job that was there, did what brian did, and as time wore on and i became more familiar with the part and more familiar with the company and more familiar with the audience and peace and show, i started to shape it and make it my own and i got excited to do an accent, i decided to do a british accent, which started as an rp thing and morph into a character accent. The offbroadway run for me was two months of a rehearsal in front of an audience. It was amazing and exploratory and i learned a lot from it. Charlie how many appearances did you make . How many appearances did you make during the two in the half hours of the production . Jonathan i do like i have three numbers. It is nine minutes of stage time. When we were offbroadway, i watched the show every day. The way the Public Theater is set up, is a column where you can enter from the audience and i could stand there and so perfectly watch the stage. Every night when we are off broadway, i would leave it. Goould leave the stage and stand and watch. The show is still evolving and finding its power and the performers were still discovering some big things. The room where it happens, leslies big number, it is almost like i watched through the course of the two months, and that it ran for two months, i watched that number become a production number because it is suddenly, the performances get bigger by the end of the Public Theater run, the show wanted to explode out of the theater. Between the audiences anticipation growing and the actors on stage filling the space, it was like i could not watch it. I couldnt not leave the stage and watch because it had this explosive energy to the public. Charlie what happens when you come out, it is almost like king george says to america or to the colonies or to the revolution, we have a love affair. You have got to come back. You really will come back. If you dont come back, i will have to kill you and your family. That is what he says. But the way you say it, it is a showstopper. That is what it is. You know that. Jonathan it is such a brilliant piece of writing. In the show, it is the first song that really isnt rapped and it is the first character from history that we see walkout that is completely recognizable. Granted, im 30 years old so it is a little different than we are used to sing in history books, but the costume, and the wig. The moment king george walks out, everyone knows who this person is. Everyone knows for his perspective. They are projecting already the minute he walks out his feelings. It is a brilliant moment in the show that everything and tommy, who is the amazing director, and andy who choreographed it, the show was so full of movement. There is a revolving stage, and the show itself stops and king george walks out. The audience immediately knows who it is and tommy, our director, said to me this is a moment about stillness. That was his big thing of direction to me. It is a moment of stillness. It is the one moment the audience gets of stillness. Whatever that means to you, embrace it how you made. Being as still as possible is the most powerful thing. Charlie what are your first words . Jonathan you say the price of my love is a price you are not willing to pay. [laughter] you cry when you hurl your tea in the sea when you see me go by. Why so sad . [laughter] it is so brilliantly written. It is delicious writing. I love saying it every night. Before i joined the show, i knew it was nine minutes of showtime, and i thought, that will be fun. It is lin. I am there for him and i heard great things about the show, but i have not gotten sick. I have done it over 100 times and it is nine minutes, but it is so it is so naughty. [laughter] wonderful and the audience is always so receptive to it because of the reasons we described that it is like a drug coming out there every night. It is so amazing to be breathing in the air of the hamilton experience. That alone is incredible and something i will never forget. Charlie has broadway seen anything like this in a while . Jonathan this is 1 what was really interesting is after we opened, the album had not come out and the 60 minutes piece had not come out and they had not released clips from the show. For about two and a half months were sold out, no one knew anything about the show, and the lights would go down and people would start screaming. Like they knew what was going to happen. It was like rent in its 10th year when people have the words memorized and the lights go down and people are excited. This is the lights going down with people excited about an original piece of theater with no celebrities and it. Hispanics and blacks. Jonathan yeah. Charlie playing the founding fathers. Jonathan Chris Jackson place George Washington. Diggs is Thomas Jefferson. Charlie and lafayette. Jonathan it is brilliant. People are embracing it. When president obama came to see charlie the first or second time . Jonathan the first time he saw the sixth preview. He came backstage at intermission to meet everyone. He could not come back after because it closed down 40 63. 46th street. Everyone was locked in their theater until the president left. He came back at intermission and said, and it was really meaningful what he said. Things people make great and often times it never gets recognized or it takes a long time for it to get recognized. Should really take in and enjoy the fact that you have created something great and from the beginning, it has been embraced in the way that it should be. Charlie lucas auden said it is shakespeare. Beyonce saw it in goes backstage and says, im going to take that walk. Im going to put that walk in my act. [laughter] jonathan i loved it. You doing beyonce is making me blush. I am obsessed with beyonce, as so many of us are. Charlie around the globe. Jonathan the world is obsessed with beyonce. She came to the show with jayz. We were all freaking out. Afterwards, there were only two times. It is a big cast and a loud, rowdy, Energetic Group and famous people and politicians come on stage and it feels like a party. Everyone is talking. There were two times when the entire company has been on stage surrounding someone and you could hear a pin drop. It was president obama and beyonce and jayz. Those of the two times where everyone was like just waiting to hear what theyre going to say and listening to hear what they say to everyone. Generousyonce were so and kind. Charlie the guy who created the characters in terms of the lines and songs and lyrics looks out to the audience and he sees todays leaders. There is the vice president. There is the president. There is dick cheney. Songs about the conflict at the time of the founding of the republic. There is George Washington with Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Jefferson engage with a war of words with Alexander Hamilton. If you told someone this was going to happen, they would say show me. How will it change you . Personally and professionally . The great thing about theater, i think, is you do it eight times a week, so it is almost a religious experience when you are doing theater because you are repeating the same words every night. You are listening to the same words every night. Help but have an indelible print on your soul after you are done with a theater piece. As an actor, ive tried to pick my theater pieces carefully because of that very thing. You end up getting infected by whatever sort of message the show is. You sing it every night. It is like a prayer, almost, every night. Areront of an audience you sharing this thing every night and it becomes a part of you. Being surrounded by lins energy alone. Roomnd i share a dressing shared it the year his studio apartment in midtown. [laughter] he is such an inspirational human being. Being surrounded by him, you want to take in that air. Charlie he said to me, i will know its great when kids are learning it in high school. That will be the real test. Jonathan wont that be great . Imagining High School Kids performing hamilton, and i know that is a big dream for him, and i know it is a dream he is trying to expedite so it does not take as long to get to schools has shows normally do. They have to wait for the whole broadway run usually. Charlie the show has had a real sensitivity to young people coming in. The production has. Jonathan totally. Schools coming in, student matinees. Charlie i will never forget Opening Night when lin came out. It was unbelievable. He just to their just stood there. Jonathan this is the thing about lin. Lin is a genius. Literally a certified genius. And yet he is so celebratory of everybody. At that Opening Night, he came on stage, you were there, and it felt like a High School Pep rally. It did not feel like fancy, highbrow, new york, i am a genius and welcome to my amazing piece. There was nothing sophisticated about it. There is everything sophisticated about the writing. It speaks for itself. When he came out on stage, he called everyone out like a High School Pep rally and everyone was like table]on charlie i will fight the fight and win the war for your love, for your praise. Jonathan for your praise. Charlie i will love you till your dying day. Jonathan when you are gone, i will go mad, so dont throw away this thing we had, because when push comes to shove, i will kill your friends and family to remind you of my love. [laughter] charlie i wanted that for the close. [laughter] thank you so much. Jonathan thank you. So great to be here. Charlie go see hamilton if you can. Angie the asiapacific a set to track the wall street declines. Around 100 six. Election countdown. Australia gets a double dose of stimulus as it heads toward an expected july to vote. And trump takes indiana, dealing a devastating blow to ted cruz. 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