Mark [sighs] john see you around, jim. In our lineup tonight, a whole bunch of secrets. Starting with joe biden. What is he doing . I never know what he is doing. His lips are sealed about what he may do and what he may not do. But meanwhile in our brandnew Bloomberg PoliticsNew Hampshire poll, biden is lagging it at 10 in the democratic field. Bernie sanders leads Hillary Clinton 41 to 36 . The news is not really how much mr. B is getting lost in the shuffle. Mark, big poll, new poll, what stands out . Mark we have our partners in New Hampshire on bloombergpolitics. Com. Looking at the biden fees, there was polling earlier that was looking at the biden piece, there was polling earlier not looking good for him. This poll did not have a lot of good news for him. They look at two traits that if Vice President said he ran he should be kicking butt. Who cares about people like you . When you had biden in the mix, only 10 said biting cares about people like you more than clinton. Sanders, ready to be president , another place where biden feels like he would do well. 21 said that he is ready to be president. Clinton more than doubling him. Once he is in the race it is a different dynamic. But it cannot be encouraging from the people in New Hampshire. John the last time we did this poll was back in june. You look at these numbers. Sanders up 17 since june, clinton down 20 since june. At least in New Hampshire, the big mo is with Bernie Sanders. Mark she can still catch up. People are missing the dynamic here. She is not that far behind in any poll, but she is behind the New Hampshire. All right, joe biden may not have said anything about his president ial ambitions, but he did talk up a storm where he did have a jab against Hillary Clinton, or at least seem to, in a conversation with walter mondale. Here is biden for the second where at last weeks debate, she listed republicans among the enemies she is most proud to have. Vice President Biden that is when i get sent to the hill. Which, by the way, is a really useful use of my time. I respect my republican friends. I do not think my chief enemy is the republican party. This is a matter of making things work. Mark it is true that joe biden says stuff about republicans like that all of the time. But two days in a row after the debate . Then later he threw some shade in her way when he talked on international diplomacy. Vice President Biden i will be sent to go speak to putin or go speak to erdogan. When i go, they know i am speaking for the president. There is nothing missed between the lip and the cup. Whatever i say, the president is saying. Mark a third thing that biden says that is getting attention, when he talked about killing osama bin laden. This is contrary to previous statements he has made about advice he gave president obama. Today, he says he privately encouraged his boss to go for it, and when he was listing people in the cabinet who supported it, he left Hillary Clinton off the list. John, is the Vice President being careless, playful, or purposeful with remarks today that contrasted himself with Hillary Clinton . John joe biden is sometimes careless. Not in this instance. Joe biden is often playful. Not in this instance. Purposeful, purposeful, purposeful. Im not saying any of those things indicates he will or will not run. These are very calculated. The bin laden thing most of all. It is a thorn in his side that he has been perceived as not being fully in favor of the raid. We know from reporting we did contemporaneously that people around the Vice President at that time said to us that biden was kind of like playing a little game in this argument, trying to give obama cover. Mark he may have socratic we said, maybe this is not a good idea, but privately told be president. Whether joe biden is planning to run or not, and we dont know, some people look at what he said today and said, he is chafing at the notion he is not doing well. That people are saying, you missed your chance, you can run, you cant run, Hillary Clinton is too strong. John let me do this row quick. Clinton has been throwing shade at biden. Today she has 50 black mayors endorsing her. Wednesday you have the benghazi hearing. Shes going on rachel maddow. Saturday she will be with bill clinton and katy perry. That is Hillary Clinton saying, joe biden, step back. Mark a lot of show of force. Bill clinton wondering whether joe biden is getting in. They are trying to make it as hard for him as possible. John no doubt about it. Publishing a rare, lengthy, on the record conversation with mark murphy. In the conversation, murphy makes the case for a jeb come back. One, he says donald trump cannot win the general election and come march, jeb bush will be the only one with enough resources to go the distance. This is a threeway question, multiplechoice. You think that that argument is convincing, compelling, or simply ridiculous . John mark its the best argument they can make. The notion you can be shut out in february and come back with super pac money most people i know do not believe in that. He needs a surge to put himself in the game. John such a ouster about what happens if he does not want to win one of those first four states and he says i do not want to engage in hypotheticals. But as you pointed out, the whole interview is engaging in hypotheticals. He is spending millions of dollars to get people to focus on jeb bushs florida record. You know what they are focusing on . Jeb bush defending george w. Bush. Not what mike murphy wanted. Mark his big bills to florida may not be working. John maybe. [laughter] mark coming up, it is early evening with seth meyers. We will ask him our Desert Island questions after this word from our sponsors. Seth you have been critical of the trump campaign. Are you surprised he is doing so well and getting the traction . Senator graham i had a notion that insulting a whole class of people was a bad move, but apparently not. Seth people from New Hampshire, people from iowa take the responsibility very, very seriously. Governor omalley i will tell you, you were a major celebrity there. Senator cruz its a very small state. John we have no idea what city you are from seth meyers you are from, seth meyers. Seth a proud regiment of west high in manchester. John thank you for coming. I would you start with New Hampshire trivia. Seth great. I wont do well, yeah. John state insect . Seth black fly . John ladybug. Seth state sport . Ok, two for three. New hampshire has an outsize importance of president ial politics . Do you think that is right, fair, and proper . Seth i dont. I would be a lot happier if they rotated the setting the tone around. With that said, i do think people from New Hampshire take it very, very seriously. One of the benefits of a small state, obviously, i think most of the voters get a chance to meet the candidates in a way you do not get in a larger state. I would not be of set, although a lot of people in my home state would be, i would not be upset if they changed it. John you will not be welcome back in the state. Seth thats fine. Mark were you at a lot of the primaries . Seth i graduated high school in 1992. Every single candidate came through. I actually introducted jerry brown i got to wear a plaid shirt instead of a coat and tie because it was jerry brown. I saw clinton. John did you work on campaigns . Seth i was too cool. I never worked on any campaigns. But that was the nice thing about growing up there. John what do you get ready what do you do to get ready for an interview like that . Seth its nice because you bone of more than you would for someone who is a movie or television show. Also, it is very important to be intelligent and you want to project information to the audience, because that is the only reason to have candidates on. If you ask a candidate a question, they will talk the whole time unless you interrupt them. They kind of mark you do the leanin thing. Seth you noticed in that clinton package i was leaning farther and farther forward. Mark give us your ones in his thumbnail. Seth john kasich seems like a very nice man, but i dont know if the Electoral College right now is looking for a reasonable man. Mark ted cruz. Seth ted cruz, i found him a very aggressive debater. He was more interesting than most of my guest because he was very willing to go back and forth. You can tell he likes conflict and that made him an interesting guest. Mark Carly Fiorina . Seth Carly Fiorina was sharp, but less charismatic than i was expecting. Mark really . Seth as a talkshow guest i did not find her to be mark wowed. Seth i think when people run for president they need a little more spark may be. Mark last, mr. Sparkle, Lindsey Graham . Seth he was all sparkle. He had loaded up jokes. You can always tell when they preplan their off because jokes. John Bernie Sanders . Seth great sense of humor, laidback, fun to talk to. John we were told that your dream interview is with vladimir putin. Seth i would love to get him on the show. Great impressionist. John ok, im going to be vladimir putin. [russian accent] seth meyers, between you. Before we send you to the labor camp, what would you like to know about me . Seth i should let you know, vladimir, i ask you questions. I feel like you right away stole that away from me. Im not a guest on your show. This is not crimea. This is late night with said myers. You cant just take this. John at this point if i were vladimir putin, i would take my shirt off and you would be done. Seth right. Mark clinton, obama, and bush all had moments of latenight triumph. Seth yeah. Mark jeb bush, what is the funniest thing about him . Seth its different now. There are so many talk shows. We enjoy having these people on as guests. In a weird way the market is a little saturated. I feel like for all their best efforts, i dont know if anyone is going to have a latenight moment that will elevate them. Mark hillary on snl. Seth certainly i remember the snl, one of my biggest memories is when sarah palin came on and that was one of the most highly rated episodes. John your pataki episode. Seth pataki was huge. John stick around. We are going to continue this conversation. We are here with seth meyers. Mark welcome back. We are still here talking to seth meyers. John i want to ask you about weekend update. This is probably the first time you have ever talked about politics on tv, right . Seth to a certain extent, right. John did this whet your appetite . Seth certainly when you are writing jokes about it, it so helpful when audiences are paying attention to what is going on. Audiences are interested in debates. Its the time when elections are most like television. Its always easier in an election cycle. Mark probably your greatest connection to American History is the 2011 white house correspondents dinner. A lot going on. You and the president hanging out while he is ordering the killing of an international terrorist. And you and the president took on trump. Seth probably took him down. Mark you only made him angry. Seth it was like a kung fu movie where he went and trained for three years. Mark remember what he said about you . Seth he called me a thirdrate comedian and said i sounded like i had marbles in my mouth. Have you been in that room . Mark yeah, i was there. Seth it is so widespread and it is impossible to have any sense of where any when the audience is sitting. John and the pressure is so intense. Is that the toughest room you have ever played . Seth toughest room i have ever played. Not just bdcause of the being on a dais with the president just one seat away. Let me point something out i think it is unfair that the president goes first. Hes funny. He should not be opening. He should be closing. There is nothing harder than following the president. Mark if pataki is president , will you do it . Seth when you do Something Like that, sometimes you just get lucky because that was very fresh, the trump talking about birth certificates, and i think it made for a better nights, because you are not pulling back to a story from seven months ago. Mark that was electric. Do you remember any of your chum jokes from that night . Ive got them here. Seth donald trump says if he runs for president , he will run as a republican. Which is funny because i thought it would be as a joke. Mark thats almost like rain man. Donald trump said he would be running on fox seth which is ironic because a fox is usually on his head . Mark how do think trump is doing this time . Seth i have been proven seven proven wrong seven times in the trunk campaign about whether he will last and whether this is real. I have to tip my cap and say i am impressed at his staying power and is a comedy writer in someone who does what i do, the longer the better. John i will tell you something you may not know that may seem it even more unfair that the president went ahead of you. Writing the jokes for the president was judd apatow. Seth yeah. John he is very good on delivering comedy in very good writers on his team. Seth the year before, it was myself in the weekend update writers. We chipped in jokes. Americas best show up for the president. Mark the a former New Hampshire citizen. Im going to ask you poll questions we have been asking voters. Who would you trust more to take on putin . Bush or trump . Seth bush. Mark who would you trust more to handle the economy, bush or trump . Seth bush. Mark who seems more president ial, bush or trump . Seth i dont trust trump. Mark youre out of step. John i think its possible youre not republican. Seth thats possible. What about these guys not pulling it all well on the public inside. And the democratic side. A guy like Lincoln Chafee. Do you see that guy is fair game, or do you elevate him, do you help them if you make a joke . Have you think about those marginal candidates as a source of comedy . Seth let me just say, i dont think Lincoln Chafee can be helped. Jokes or no jokes. Theres a certain amount of hubris that anyone, even a qualified candidate as when he says, you know who would be perfect to run america . Me. Anytime they show up for debate, they are fair game. There is no need to have sympathy for someone who wants to be in the public eye and wants to represent the american people. Mark last question and take this one seriously, but comedy twist it after you give a serious answer. 21 candidates. I know you have them memorized. If you are on a Desert Island for three years and you have enough coconuts and theres no food issue, if you could take one what would you take and who would you take and why . Seth three . Mark just one. John you are not there for life. Just a long time. Mark you can factor in other needs you might have. Seth omalley on guitar. I guess, politics aside i want a doctor. Dr. Ben carson. I think its important to have medical care and i think that would give me at least one anecdote. John there is almost no way he would go on the island with you unless you were armed. Mark you are mr. Practical. You take the physician. Seth no matter who i am around with, it will be a terrible three years. John and if you give birth to conjoined twins, he can sort that out for you on the spot. Seth i dont know how thats going to happen. John seth meyers, thank you very much. Your fantastic and awesome in every way. Thanks for staying with with all due respect. John we are live 24 7 on Bloomberg Politics. And tomorrow, part two of our interview with bush impresario mike murphy. John and we will be Digging Deeper on the democratic race. Thanks for watching. Sayonara. Im cory johnson in for emily chang and this is bloomberg west. Next thirdquarter earnings with the looming sale of their Parent Company emc, and tesla shares tank. And why the multibilliondollar delve megamerger will succeed