trump gave him a big thumbs up, the other person that's happy with it is vladimir putin, of course, who would love to see the blame for what happened here in 2016 shift to the ukrainians. >> do you think -- i mean, you know senator kennedy is a very smart person. it's hard to believe that having taken a look at the evidence out there, i mean, there's an entire report from the intelligence community. the entire intelligence community, the details how russia meddled in the election, and you know, you take a cursory glance at the lack of evidence. surely he knows that, do you think he does know that and he's putting out bunk knowingly? >> yeah, i think he picked up on republican talking points and picked up on the president's talking points. and he got out, you know, way over his skis. i think in a parlance, that senator kennedy would appreciate that dog just won't hunt when you look at the facts, and in