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Military. Its going to be political. I recognize palestine to exist. But i want the state to have one authority, one rule of law. And thats what palestine will be all about. So we have to link this to the political horizon, to the end game, to the process of achieving the end of occupation and having a palestinian independent state whose rule will be authority, one gun, and the rule of law. Lets hope when we speak tomorrow at this exact same time, 24 hours from now, that ceasefire thats supposed to begin 8 00 a. M. Local time will have held, there will be no rockets, there be no more deaths. It will be quiet and the process that you want to begin in cairo, an israeli delegation coming over, the palestinian delegation, the u. S. , all others get involved and see the end of this once and for all. Hopefully leading to that kind of Peace Process that youve worked on for so many years together with so many others. Well continue this conversation tomorrow. Thanks, as usual, for joining us. Chief palestinian negotiator joining us live from jericho on the west bank. More breaking news when we come back. Well check in with our own jake tapper. Hes in jerusalem, a special report for us. Also, tough questions for the hamas political leader. Nick robert sson has an exclusi interview with him. At university of phoenix, we we know going back to school is a big decision. Thats why we offer many first year students with limited to no College Experience a riskfree period. So you can commit to your education with confidence. Get started at phoenix. Edu save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance. D Everybody Knows that. Well, did you know pinocchio was a bad motivational speaker . I look around this room and i see nothing but untapped potential. You have potential. You have. Oh boy. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance. Were following a major breaking news, a new truce between with israel and hamas, both sides agreeing to a threeday humanitarian ceasefire to begin a few hours from now. Lets go to jake tapper in jerusalem watching whats going on. What are you hearing in jerusalem right now . Whats the sense . Reporter well, obviously both sides have agreed to the ceasefire, which begins tomorrow morning, and so there are still military operations ongoing. Weve heard about rockets being fired from gaza into israel. Weve heard about the idf, the Israel Defense forces, continuing with operations in gaza. But as of now, as you got from your show and i got from my show, both sides, including hamas, which was the sticking group in the original negotiation a week or so ago and three weeks ago ewith egypt, agreeing with peace. Im not hearing a lot of optimism in terms of israelis whether this will be abided by. But for now, people are making plans and preparations for the ceasefire to begin tomorrow morning. Lets hope it works this time. I know you were down there along the israel gaza border today. I saw your report on the lead earlier. Tell our viewers what its like down there. You see tanks, armored personnel carriers, leaving gaza coming back into israel, right . Reporter its really quite remarkable because on one hand youre living your life and israelis are living their lives and you stop and you have food and you get gas and youre just driving down the road. But on the other hand there is a war going on, for want of a better term. There were those armored personnel carriers and tanks being driven away from the border. There were then other moments youd be driving and youd see off in the distance maybe 20 tanks sitting there, doing who knows what, waiting for orders perhaps. So the sense by which its difficult to convey to people who havent ever been to a war zone, especially in an urban environment, as i know you were when you visited baghdad and i was there as well, but it really is quite remarkable seeing theres a real disconnect. Quickly, in jerusalem, two incidents as you well know, it scared a lot of folks listening to what was going on. You got back to jerusalem after those incidents, is that right . Reporter thats right. We were out shooting, and then when we came on our way back we heard about the incident, the one with a palestinian from East Jerusalem with a large machine, a tractor trailer, tractor of some sort, moving a bus, killing an israeli and then being killed by Israeli Police himself. And then the other incident involving a gunman on a motor bike shooting at israeli shoulders at the camp s univers getting away. Hes still at large, that shooter. Alarming. I think one of the tasks in the coming days as the ceasefire begins and theres a real testing of it will be when there are individual instances like that from individual extremists, whether israeli or palestinian, how much does the other side consider that to be a violation . If one random palestinian fire as mortar and doesnt hurt anybody but it wasnt sanctioned by Islamic Jihad or hamas just to give an example of what could happen, does that count as a violation . I suspect everyone is going to be really on edge. I know at the border, you visited there, when you were here i was there earlier today, all those individuals who live in the key butzs close to gaza, they moved there 25, 30 years ago, when you could go to the beach in gaza, when people could walk back and forth, when people worked together. Obviously now a very different situation. But how much is that going to strain the ceasefire or even break it . Jakes going to be back in about three hours from now, 10 00 p. M. 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You could even get a discount when you add a car. Call Liberty Mutual for a free quote today at see Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. Following breaking news, israel an the palestinians agreeing to a ceasefire proposed by egypt. Sara sidner was at the border today. What did you say where you were, sara . Reporter we saw quite 0 a bit of troop movement, plenty of tanks, actually troops moving a little bit back from the gaza border. We also talked to quite a few people that live there on the border, as rockets actually went over our heads during the initial ceasefire that israel called for today but that hamas rejected. There was plenty of action going on, although for a couple of hours it was quiet. I dont know if you know horace hill, wolf, but when youre there looking over gaza, there was quiet for two hours and sirens sounding in places along the southern israel border. We also talked to quite a few people who were concerned about their children but had gotten so tired of having them sort of holed up in the house they decided to take a chance and take them out to the play groupeds today. But still just overhead while we were at one of those playgrounds, the sound of rocket fire and the iron dome firing off and intercepting that. Weve also heard in the last hour and a half or so another sound of the iron dome going off, two rounds coming from the iron dome knocking out two rockets that had come over from gaza. Very close to here. Youre down in the south, sara, youve been there for days now. Whats it like . Are those sirens going off all the time, middle of the night, early mornings . Reporter yeah, i woke up to one at 6 45 this morning, which isnt all that unusual. They arent all concentrated in one area, of course. Its in different spots. If you happen to be there, then you try to take cover. You go to many houses on the border that are very close to the border have rooms they can go into that are fortified. When they shut the door, they can take a rocket attack. We were at a kibbutz today that all the rooms had rooms that are shelters. They close the door and they have been struck by rockets in the past and there has been no damage on the inside, bit of damage on the outside. You hear from people that they become used to it. One of these kibbutzes, you could walk up to the border, a few hundred yards. If you were able to cross it, you could do it by foot. And a lot of people have left. The fear of the tunnels has really created some of that, but there have been theres been more fighting i think when you talk to the people on the border than theyve seen ever, really. So quite disturbing to people. But certainly there is he a sense that this could be the time. Wolf, we know we keep going through this. The longest ceasefire that was called for was 12 hours that both sides agreed to. That didnt last very long. Really minutes. The firing never really ceased during that one. Then you had hamas asking for one, israel refusing that. Then. Mickey rosenfeld is joining us from jerusalem. Two incidents, mickey, today in jerusalem. What with do we know about the two incidents . Specifically, were they tied to Islamic Jihad, hamas, lone wolves, as they say . What can you tell us . Well, what took place just after noon in jerusalem, in fact, in one of the more or less builtup neighborhoods where a lot of religious people are living, there was an israeli local israeli arab who took his tractor and in fact made his way on an area which was very crowded at the time. Luckily the members of the public managed to flee the area, but ub fortunately one israeli man was killed when the palestinian took his tractor and in fact overturned a bus on idz side. Police units that were in the area in fact responded very, very quickly, and the suspect was shot and killed at close range. Obviously the police units in the area heightened security immediately and then just about three hours afterwards at 4 00 in the afternoon israeli time, there was another shooting which occurred almost a mile from where the first terrorist attack occurred. And unfortunately a soldier was shot in his stumage and upper part of his body and injured seriously and taken to nearby hospital for medical treatment. So those two incidents, there is no specific intelligence that we had about a terrorist attack that was going to take place inside jerusalem today. But what i can confirm is that over the last few weeks theres been tension in and around jerusalem. And our police units have dealt with local incidents, disturbances, stonethrowing and in israeli neighborhoods which we deal with almost every evening. That second incident, is the shooter still at large . Thats correct. Police units are continuing to search around neighborhoods as well as the possibility of the west bank area as well. Units are being deployed and working as we are talking right now. During the evening, during the night in jerusalem. At the same time, we have heightened security in general over the next 24 hours in jerusalem as we have the jewish fast taking place the night of until tomorrow o evening. There are thousands of people visiting the old city and western wall. We will check back with you tomorrow, mickey. Thanks very much for that report. Just ahead, tough questions for the hamas political leader. Our own nic robertson. Stand by. Now a cnn exclusive. The leader mahamass political wing. Nick roberts is joining us from abu dhabi. They are going to continue until their demand are met. This is in the face of questions while all of this fighting is dwog on in gaza. He is so far away, is he really in control in. As gaza is targeted by missiles, its top politician is out of touch. He is roaming around fivestar hotel suites in the gulf states having the time of his life. Critics good further accusing him of losing control of hamass military. Not so says the leader in an exclusive cnn interview. In the gulf state qatar saturday. This is not true. Hamas is a movement of institutions. It has respected leadership. Hamas would have a political or armed wing as fridays short lived troops collapse in bitter incriticism nations, the question is again, are they really in control. They broke commitments they made. Reporter the answer, hamas wasnt it blame. He says he never signed up to a tunnel targeting condition israel attached to the truce. Translator we told that to mr. Kerry. Reporter so when israel introduces a unilateral ceasefire monday, it leaves troops as it did friday and hamas fails to sign on, they appear not to want to risk blame for truce breaking again. Seven mostly quiet hours later, hamas appears to have observed it. He said two days earlier he supports such short pauses. Translator people of gaza need humanitarian aid from all of the International Community met by the United States. Reporter in a similar confrontation in gaza in 20082009, known in israel as operation kasled, he as accused of being marginalized. In 2010 after that conflict, he denied any rift. A game now he insist he and hamas are united with be that u. S. Officials know this. Translator they know hamas is very credible in that if the leadership promised something, it will followi its promise and fighters on the ground will follow that. Reporter you know what is important here is that he said that hamas is united because if he gives any indication there are any breaks in leadership, anywhere down the line, thats a sign of weakness and that means hamass demand are less likely to be met, wolf. Good work as usual. Thank you. One of the United States most prominent gun control advocates has died. He survived a shot to the head when a gunman tried to assassinate president reagan in 1981. He and his wife sarah went on to start the Brady Campaign to prevent gun violence. James brady, terrific, terrific guy. Excellent press secretary. Wonderful human being. Unfortunately, he passed away today at age 73. Thats it for me. Thank for watching. Im wolf blitzer in the situation room. The news continues next on cnn. Next breaking news. Ebola in america. Tonight, an infected american man treated in atlanta. Another with ebolalike symptoms being tested in new york. Surviving ebola, one of the deadliest diseases in the world, is out front for an interview. Hamas with a temporary truce. Is there any reason to believe this one will last more than five minutes . Lets go outfront