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Black boxes of Malaysia Airlines flight 370. He is very specific in that, and he joins australian Prime Minister tony abbott in his certainty. We have very much narrowed down the search area, and we are very confident that the signals that we are detecting are from the black box on mh 370. Were going to get to my interview with commander William Marks in just a minute. First, i want to go to Michael Holmes in perth, australia. Michael, this is a growing sense that theyre getting close to finding this black box. What is the scene there this morning as theyre starting the search there again . Yeah, just after dawn here, erin, on a beautiful perth day and off the coast, the ships have been trawling all night, and continue to now, looking for more pings from the flight data recorders. The aircraft are heading out to join them. Theyll be looking for wreckage on the surface. It is day 36 of this search. Five weeks, hard to believe, but nothing has been found so far. But you heard there the confidence is there that something will be found on or below the surface. Now, the plan at the moment is to continue that search, hope to hear even more pings and narrow the search area down to even further that of course becoming less and less likely with the pinger batteries fading, even by the hour. Of course, important to remember, even if say the wreckage or the data recorders were located even today, the recovery phase has a whole new set of challenges, getting the right vehicles in place and underwater, and dealing with an ocean floor covered in perhaps meters of silt, which can bury debris or very easily hide a data recorder that is no longer pinging. Erin . Thank you very much. And joining me now on the phone is Navy Commander William Marks of the u. S. 7th neat. He is on board the uss blueridge which is leading the american search effort for flight 370. Commander, good to talk to you this saturday morning. How are you focussing the search today . Were doing well out here in the pacific. And as each day goes on, as the search area is smaller and smaller, especially since even a week ago, were pretty optimistic here. So i do want to stress we are still searching with our tpl, the towed pinger locator. We do want to maximize the use of that. So as long as we can use the tpl to listen in, see if we can get a better picture on that black box, were going to use it. And well go as long as we can until we think the batteries are dead on those things. The important point to remember is before we get the bluefin and side scan sowner, we want to maximize the use of the tpl. So thats what were doing today. And the man who made the pinger on this plane told me that, you know, its only got another couple of days until the battery is dead for sure, maybe three or four at the out. The last ping that i know searchers really think came from a black box is tuesday. Youre now coming into saturday. How long are you going to keep looking if you dont hear a ping before you decide to go to the next step, to put that bluefin the water . Yeah, thats a great question. And thats certainly a decision point. But i really want to stress how critical it is to not put the bluefin 21 in sooner than we need to. Just using the tpl is a slow and deliberate process. So it drags through the water. And it listens in for those pings from a black box. And thats a pretty slow process. We can tow it about as quickly as a person walks. Well, once you get the bluefin in there, its actually taking a picture of the bottom of the ocean floor using sonar and cameras. So imagine walking but then every feet stopping to take a picture of the ground. So that is a much slower, more deliberate, methodical process. Once that starts, were in it for a good chunk of time. So we really dont want to start that until we have to. Right. And anything we can do to even narrow this sector down even a little bit will be hugely beneficial for using the bluefin. Now, commander, australias Prime Minister tony abbott came out and said directly, look, he is confident that what you have heard so far is a black box from this plane. Do you share that view . Yeah, i do. For a couple of reasons. One is it was a we are detecting very continuous pings coming through in a manner consistent with exactly what you would expect from a black box. Weve ruled out there was anything unnatural or anything from commercial shipping or anything like that. And then the fact that weve had four verifiable hits on these is optimistic. Now, they were all quite in the same frequency range. And there is a good deal of distance between those 10 or 15 kilometers. But still, you know, sound is a unique property here in water. And it could easily travel that far. So i agree with the Prime Minister. We are optimistic. All right, commander, thank you. Good luck. Well talk to you again soon. Certainly. And i want to bring in our own Richard Quest. All right. So we have the breaking news here. The command versaillesing yes, im confident this is it. We have checked any other sources, not just natural source, but whether it was a box from a commercial ship . No. This is it. Yeah. Yeah. Well we had this from Angus Houston and the australians. Everyone was saying did he get ahead of himself. Did he get too far . The americans are now agreeing. The australian string of experts said credible, stable, 1. 106, the right frequency. Their exact word, it is consistent with a flight data recorder. So are they going to be able to get it out . That is the bottom line. Let us not confuse what tony abbott said with what hes now got to do. He said he is very confident that its a black box. Right. We now know that. He didnt say how, you know, we know where it is. He did say its within a certain so many kilometers or within some kilometers. Right. Thats optimistic. That might have been a stretch further than others are prepared to go. But weve always known the difficult bit is now going to be getting down this and taking that search area that houston has got smaller and smaller in looking for it. And of course figuring out exactly what happened here which is what were going to be talking about next. We have continuing coverage of the breaking news tonight. Authorities now focusing on the pilots and the crew. Youve known that a bit. But theyve changed the tone a bit. And a man who knows the pilots and the crew are going to join our conversation next. Plus, official giving contradicting information and misestimates out of malaysia on this. Who is to blame . And an exclusive look at the cutting edge tech being used to find mh 370. S karen and jeremia. 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Joe, now police say theyre questioning more people who may be linked to the case. So what have you learned about that . Well, erin, statements have been taken from over 205 people. And we know from speaking with the home minister earlier this week a little more who they have been talking to, including families of the pilots, families of the crew, the staff of Malaysia Airlines, crowd handlers. We also know theyre talking to caterers, almost anybody who came into contact with that plane, the work is continuing. Last week the number of people interviewed was about 170. So since then, we can extrapolate from that they have interviewed an additional 35 people, erin. Joe, its also confusing here. Last week Malaysian Police said look, all 227 passengers have been cleared from suspicion, but they were still looking at the captain and the crew. Today the act transportation minister, a colorful character told sky news, quote, everyone on board remains under suspicion. So theyre saying two totally different things. Right. True. There have been several examples of mixed messages. The transportation minister suggested they havent ruled anybody out. However, the home minister just said the other day that they are not focusing on family members of the passengers. I think its all a reflection of the sort of sprawling investigation we have. And frankly, more facts are really needed to refine where this investigation goes from here. Theyre hoping finding the black boxes will actually do that, erin. All right. Thank you very much, joe, reporting live from kuala lumpur. Were going to be joined in just a moment by a man who knew the pilot as well as members of the flight crew on this plane. Obviously crucial perspective there. Richard quest is also with me along with our aviation analyst geoff weiss. At least what we know about how this plane was taken off course we have known one thing that then becomes another thing. So what we know may not be what happened. Caveat for everybody watching. But what we know right now, who could be responsible for this at this point besides one of the pilots . Well, the way that that plane was taken off course and the way that it was subsequently flown way point to way point, apparently deviating in such a way that it would avoid radar seems to have been very clever, very purposely flown with a lot of savvy and sophistication with the way planes are flown and the way Airline Operations are conducted. Perhaps there was someone else on board who was able to fly a plane in that kind of way. We dont know. Apparently all these passengers have been cleared. So suspicion, again, falls on the pilot. Two completely opposing things from the malaysian government. I want to bring in the president of malaysias National Union of flight attendants. He worked with captain Zaharie Ahmad shah and the crew. Good to have you with us. I appreciate you take 00 the time. What can you tell us in terms of anyone you knew and the pilots on this plane, and what they were like as the investigation still seems to focus on those individual. Yeah, hi, erin. Basically, i think we are currently right now looking at some family members and also the crew who we have spoken to. And the last time that i spoke to them was about a couple of days ago. And basically, ive worked with some of the crewmembers before. So i know captain zaharie also, because we were flying colleagues before. And we did a couple of flights. And basically, also some of the flight attendants who naturally work with us together on several flights. Do you think, ismail, that any of these people could have been responsible . Obviously people are talking about the captain simply because he was the captain. And a lot of focus has gone there. There has been no evidence at this point indicating he was involved. You know him. What would you say . Captain zaharie as i know and the rest of our crewmembers, we used to work together. And i believe that captain zaharie is a very simple guy. He is very professional during his work. And being a commander, he always takes charge of his flight. I dont see any problems working with him, neither any one of our crewmembers. Weve never had any problems working with anybody so far. And last couple of years that i flew with him and, you know, weve spoken a few things. But its kind of that we see each other and we talk about normal things. And thats about it, you know. Nothing strange about anything. Interesting you say he is a simple guy. What do you think about the new rules that have been imposed . Because there was a report that there are new rules after that incident that would not allow anybody to be alone in the cockpit. And that was a change in rules. Some people said well, is that because there is speculation that somebody in the cockpit was responsible for what happened to this plane. What is your response to that . Yeah, i think its a natural thing. Every airline has got security measures that is undertaken. And basically, what i see is that when the airline impose security measures where crewmembers are supposedly to become barriers to the cockpit. So, you know, anybody who wants to come in, they have got to go through the flight attendants. And the flight attendants will get the response from the pilots. And the pilots will give the go ahead. So thats about it. You know, basically, thats about what we see. And its kind of natural right now that they heighten up the security. And what we are just saying is i think its good for everybody to discuss more measures than just to come out with a simple policy, which we look at it in that way. And richard, what do you make about what ismail is just saying here, that captain zaharie shah is a simple man. Its what weve heard all along that he was good man, he was a well liked man, he was a man who was respected enormously. Yes. May i ask a quick question . Yes. Ismail, this is richard. Hi, its Richard Quest in new york. Quick question. The morale now for your colleagues Malaysia Airlines, bearing in mind the enormous weight of this investigation and the stress of it all . Yeah, i think everybody is, you know, a little bit edgy and also a little bit curious about what is going on. But people are talking about it. But thats kind of normal to me right now because we know that things not as what its supposed to be. But we are just waiting and just hoping that things can come by and more answers will come in the next coming weeks. Ismail, before you go, i know you said captain zaharie was a good man. Youre saying he was a simple man. Do you know anything about anyone else on the crew that you could say anything about or about his copilot . Are you asking me about the copilot . Yes. The copilot is a pretty young guy. I never flew with him before. But i flew with a lot of the other crewmembers. Not really with the copilot. All right. Well, ismail, thank you very much for taking the time this morning. We really appreciate it. Thanks again. And still to come, the next step in the search for missing flight 370. We have an exclusive demonstration of how thats going to work. And the mistakes and missteps so far in this investigation. Why are there so many mixed messages . Ups is a global company, but most of our employees live in the same communities that we serve. People here know that our operations have an impact locally. Were using more natural gas vehicles than ever before. The trucks are reliable, thats good for business. But they also reduce emissions, and thats good for everyone. 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Using side scan sonar, it searches for things that dont belong beneath the sea. What is side scan sonar . Well, side scan sonar is an Acoustic Technology that is based on reflections of sound rather than reflections of light. Reporter the autonomous underwater vehicle, an auv, is gathering information to create a map of the sea floor. This time, its the bottom of a massachusetts reservoir. But it could be the depths of the indian ocean. The side scan consists of an Electronics Package which is inside the vehicle. It is basically a computer that processes the data to make the pulse and to bring back the pulse and configure it into an image. Reporter it moves back and forth along the surface. But some auvs can dive deep into the ocean. Sonar helps identify and find debris like this submerged car. Once we identify the target, we did this cross pattern. And then if we zoom in here. So we pull in that sonar file, went to that location and got a better high def image of that car. Reporter in the case of flight 370, an auv would face a number of obstacles that could stretch this entire process out for months or years. To get a realtime closeup image, this remotely operated vehicle, or rov uses the map to visit the location. All right. Its pretty choppy out here today. So the visibility is quite reduced. Reporter in the depth of the indian ocean, you would probably use sonar at first, i would imagine, if the water is very deep and very dark. Yes. And then perhaps the camera . Exactly. Reporter once its there, it uses a camera and claws to pick up debris. Bringing Critical Evidence and hopefully answers to the surface. Rosa flores, cnn, fall river, massachusetts. And still to come, our breaking News Coverage continues. An american official telling outfront he is confident the pings are from flight 370s black boxes. The first time an american has weighed in on this. How can he be so sure . 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Anger and frustration, its hard to describe how horrible it must be for the families, but also for everyone trying to get answers given the mixed messages cominging from officials investigating this story. David mattingly is out front. Reporter with the world hanging on every word, leaders in charge of finding the missing 239 people aboard flight 370 continue to have problems staying on the same page. In china, australian Prime Minister tony abbott makes the most encouraging statement yet. We have very much narrowed down the search area, and we are very confident that the signals that we are detecting are from the black box. Reporter but just a few hours later, the australian chiefs search coordinator rolls back expectations, saying there has been no major breakthrough in the search for mh 370. The seemingly mixed messages an ongoing problem in the new 35day mystery that produces clues without conclusions and raises hopes without results. Like this statement from the malaysian government on monday. We continue to hope and pray for survivors. Reporter that was a full two weeks after all hope was officially lost. Families were bluntly informed bay text message no survivors. If you think the malaysians are being as open and honest no, of course not. They hide so many things. They cannot explain even the most implausible things, they cannot explain it. So i think there must be something that was hiding. Reporter blatant contradicts damage credibility. A week ago, malaysian officials said the criminal investigation cleared the passengers. As we have said earlier, only the passengers has been cleared. Reporter but just yesterday, another aboutface, this time on britains sky news. The malaysian acting transportation manager says everyone on board remains under suspicion. There are cultural differences. There are times when we are lost in translation. And we are learning through this process. And basically, im not saying that we were we must handled it perfectly. Reporter and yet the simplest facts are subject to change. The last contact with flight 370 once believed to be the copilot suspiciously saying all right, good night is now reported to be the pilot issuing a standard good night malaysian 370. As the physical search presses on, the only certainty is this is still no way to determine how or why the flight disappeared. David mattingly, anyone, atlanta. And i want to bring in Richard Quest, our aviation analyst miles obrien and mary schiavo also joining me. These mixed messages you have heard. Incompetence . Inexperience . What is it . A lot of it is just simply the moment. Comments element of being overwhelmed, this is unprecedented. Weve never seen anything like this before. Maybe some people should be saying i dont know when theyre giving an answer. But then we would be criticizing them for saying i dont know. The size, the scale and the scope of this that is absolutely breathtaking. So far, though, so far most of what people are saying is wrong or inexact is not that important. The really important bit is what happened on the night when it did the turn. So mary, let me ask you. Here is another one. This is really, really crucial, right . The Malaysian Police say, look, we have cleared all the passengers. Were look at the pilots. Were looking at the crewmembers. Thats a dramatic thing to do, right . Clear all these people. And now we the man we saw in David Mattingly piece says vrn on board remains under suspicion. Is that a misspeak or is that incompetence . What do you see as someone who has been in this situation . And somebody who has been in a very long time. I think what theyre doing is covering up government incompetence, not covering up the facts of the case. I think they truly dont know the fax of the case. Things like that that they really dont know and somebody went out and the copilot and the pilot, theyre trying to cover up that they just dont know and theyre incompetent. The same things on the radar. Except in that case it delayed the proper search, finding the proper search areas for about a week. So now theyre pointing fingers at each other. But, again, theyre trying to cover up government incompetence, not the fax surrounding this case, i think. And miles, i mean, what about the thing about the pilots and who spoke what . This is pretty important that they havent been able to first they said it was the copilot who spoke the final words. Then they said well, he did a lot of the speak, but the final words were spoken by the pilot. If true, that could end up being a very, very important clue. But at this point you never know what is true, right . Might or might not. But why not release that tape . Just that one little tape so we can all listen to it. Right. How about if many millions of ears listened to it, maybe we would all be able to come to a conclusion. Why havent we heard or seen the transcripts from the Ho Chi Minh City side of this transaction, which is a very important piece of the puzzle. Why havent we heard, you know, in the west and im sure in malaysia there are recorded conversations on the land lines between the controllers to indicate what conversations occurred during this handoff from one controller to another. You know, we have a 40minute gap before the malaysian controllers even notified the military there there was some sort of missing aircraft. 40 minutes. Even with the handoff included in all this, where there would be some confusion as to who was talking to whom, 40 minutes is kind of crazy. I mean, are they just afraid of International Embarrassment . No, no, no. Its the detail. They havent got their hands around some of the fax. I do need to correct one point. This idea of when they started looking in the west. And as a result of looking west you mean when they started looking for the plane after the turn. They knew it made a turn. Correct. The myth is getting out there, and im sorry, mary, but you sort of bought into it, forgive me, that it was a week. Its not. Ive got the document here on the 9th of march, they say there is the pocket of a turn back, and they are now looking to the straits of malacca. So we have to be very careful. There is the evidence there that there has been mistakes made. But by the same token, this idea that somehow they didnt tell who or what or how for a week, its simply not true. Mary, you have been a proponent of this having been a mechanical malfunction. Given all of this, given what we know and what we dont know and what has changed, but given this that we dont have an answer at this point and where that plane again, an american commander telling me look, that is the black box from this plane. We dont actually see the plane yet, though, which is crucial, do you still think this is mechanical . Well, i still think it could be because we dont have any evidence of a crime. And i was a criminal prosecutor for a very long time. And if you dont have evidence, you shouldnt be ruling out other explanations. Right. And other explanations in some cases are simpler than going through all the back bends to get a crime. So unless and until they have evidence of a crime, we must keep all things on the table, including the mechanical. And there are many scenarios where that would work. I just dont think we should discard them and say its a crime when we have no evidence of a crime yet. Thats a fair point. Richard, you have made that point often too. But are there many scenarios in which mechanical could explain a turn and then another turn and all of this, given your reporting at that point . , no of course there are not. This sort of mechanical situation we are talking about would be extremely unusual, extremely rare, and could actually have happened. And thats why mary is absolutely right, because every time, mary, you know this better than anybody. Every time you do get a mechanical, you suddenly discover something happened that nobody ever thought was likely. Well, this could happen. This is something that would change peoples willingness to fly. If this kind of a thing could happen on a mechanical, i mean, what do you think, miles . I think the backbones actually, to slightly disagree with mary, im just looking at it from a different perspective. The backbends are on the mechanical side. Frankly, the simplest explanation involves a deliberate act. The back bends are trying to come up with a scenario where all the things failed in that way and the plane kept flying for all that distance. Thats a hard one to conjure up, but ive been working on it. Its hard. Were going to hit pause there. 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Devices that viewers maybe dont know about. Secret military assets that were used on other underwater searches but was never reported because the government doesnt want you to know about them. If they do pull the black boxes, what can they tell investigators. Randi kaye looks at other crashes to see what has been learned in the past. Thats all at the top of the hour. All right, anderson, well see you in just a few minutes. Our coverage of the search continues. Here is the breaking news we have at this hour. The u. S. Navy commander William Marks is telling me he is confident the pings detected earlier this week are from the black boxes of flight 370. I want to play for you exactly what he said. This is the first time an american official has said this. Commander, australias Prime Minister, tony abbott came out and said directly look, he is confident that what youve heard so from is from a black box that is from this plane. Do you share that view . Yeah, i do. For a couple of reasons. One is it was a we are detecting very continuous pings. And are coming through in a manner consistent with exactly what you would expect from a black box. Weve ruled out that it was anything unnatural or anything from commercial shipping or anything like that. Im joined now by our Richard Quest and miles obrien and jeff wei weise. What do you think . They say there has been no acoustic detection in the past 24 hours. Do you agree with commander marks . Look, we have ruled out shipping, ruled out Everything Else it could possibly be, yes, this is it. I think its nice to be optimistic. I always think about how the families would interpret Something Like this. And your impressions, your opinions are less important than the facts. Weve got four good pings. Were homing in on it. Were getting close to what everything points us to this. But to make it sound like its a slamdunk i think is somewhat dangerous. I just imagine if for some reason this all falls apart, how would the families feel about that . So, you know, officials, they want to express their enthusiasm over this. And i get that. And theyre work hard out there, and all that is important. But its so important that the language be very precise when youre thinking about these families. I want to play again the sound here from the pingers that theyve picked up so far. Let me just play this again. [ clicking sound ] its like a raindrop, jeff, but its clearly at least to a layperson it sounds like a man made noise. Do you share the optimism . I do not share the optimism. All right. Explain why. Well, there is a bunch of problems. One is that the sheer unlikelihood that they would find something on the first try. Normally the way you would do it is you find the floating debris and you track it backwards to find the point of entry and then you search on the bottom of the ocean. Here we just we were running out of time. We thought, well, the pinger is about to die. Lets just throw in the tow fish and see what we can find. And which they did along the inmarsat arc. Which is a huge arc. Its a thousand miles long. But it is on that arc. So its not totally random. Close to random, not totally random. Here is a bigger problem. Frequency is wrong. That an unsolvable problem . Maybe not. But the fact remains its the wrong frequency. Here is another problem. When they found these pings. Frequency is coming in around 33 instead of 37 1 2. Okay. Now, they found we hear about these four pings. The first one was longer. The second one was shorter and the last two were pretty short. Theyre far from each other. Theyre too far from each other. The tow fish only has a range of two and a half miles. These things are more like 12 miles apart. At least half of them by logic have to be false positives. I sense richards disagreement with me here. But thing is a number of reasons why there is holes on this. I would love to hear his reasons for that, rather than just the confidence that he is sharing youre talking about commander marks, all right, richard, what did this point of distance . Youre not listening to what theyre saying, with respect to in that News Conference when he announced the pings, he laid it out chapter and verse why he believes i dont know. I will be quite open, i do not know if they are the pings. I believe they are probably are because he has said they are, he has given the evidence. The frequency, he has explained away what they are the experts the experts, they have said stable, concise, the right 1. 1 second chblt th they have they believe it is enough. But more importantly, this position is at the end of the six and a half ping satellite it is where it is supposed to be. So it is at one point along that arc. It is a thousand miles long, it could be anywhere. No, the last hand shake, the hand shake where they talked about was that the moment of the plane going down, it is where it is. Miles, let me ask you though, if it is not. And im not trying to say youre taking this point of view. But if this is not the black boxes from the plane, given the fact they are man made, but the person on this show believes it is the pinger, what else could it be . Well, there are scientific reasons that there would be pingers there, but shame on the scientific who has a pinger there and is doing this and saying hey, this is mine. That probably would have happened. So i tend to believe theyre marching down the right road. But this is so extraordinary without a shred of debris, with all of a sudden out of the blue, seen seemingly out of the blue, the only explanation i have on this, the category not shared with the public is the horizon over the radar, when they scrub the data was able to come up with a good fix for that airplane. We havent gotten good reporting on that, we may never know this for sure. But i dont think it is any coincidence theyre on that spot. How did they get to that spot so quickly without a shred of debris without the answer . That is very interesting, thank you very much for all three. And next, Anthony Bourdain, well, we had a hard cider and a beer together. Next, out front. And gaping potholes. So with all that behind you, you might want to make sure youre safe and in control. Ford technicians are ready to find the right tires for your vehicle. Get up to 120 in mailin rebates on four select tires when you use the Ford Service Credit card at the big tire event. See what the ford experts think about your tires. At your ford dealer. Anybody have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating . One Phillips Colon Health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three types of good bacteria. I should probably take this. Live the regular life. Phillips. 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Anderson cooper begins next goo evening, everyone, it is 8 00 p. M. And on flight 370, they have to do with decisions that could be coming back to haunt the effort today. Australias Prime Minister explains why. We now are getting to the stage where the signal from what we are very confident is the black boxes starting to fade. And we are hoping to get as much information as we can before the signal finally expires. It is only a matter of time, only so much time at all to hear anything at all. And that is why this latest development