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Great leader and we need a truly great leader now. We need a leader that wrote the art of the deal. We need a leader that can brick back our jobs can bring back our manufacturing, can bring back our military can take care of our vets. Our vets have been abandoned. And we also need a cheerleader. Well lets bring in our political panel. We have senior washington correspondent joe johns, he is in new york where the trump where trump kicked off his campaign. And we have National Political reporter may haveeve rustin as well as s. E cupp. Joe, if irs to you, was this all adlibbed . It wasnt all adlibbed. I watched him, i was pretty close. It was clear he was going back and forth from notes to adlib. So it was donald trump. And if you can say anything about him, out in the country i think the take away will be at least at the outset that this speech was very authentic. He says what he thinks and he also made it clear that this is going to be a different kind of candidacy. You know how mitt romney in the last goround had a difficult time talking about his wealth. Well you know, this quote from donald trump essentially that i dont need anybodys money, im really really rich. So that just shows you that this candidate is going to be very different from anything i think weve seen out there. And the question is how it will be received in places like iowa where hes going next or New Hampshire where hes going after that. Very Big Questions there. Okay so s. E, he starts off his remarks, he takes aim at his republican rivals. Lets listen. And i can tell you, some of the candidates they went in they didnt know the air conditioner didnt work. They sweated like dogs. They didnt know the room was too big because they didnt have anybody there. How are they going to beat isis . I dont think its going to happen. Okay. That is i mean thats off the cup, sweating like dogs . Its colorful. I actually gotten a embargoed copy of the speech he was meant to give before he delivered it and it looks nothing like what we heard. Its clear as joe mentioned he was glancing at these notes. It was a suggestion. It was a suggestion he did not take. This is donald trump, right . This is the moment when perhaps the gop president ial race has finally turned into a reality show. We have as many as 20 candidates running and donald trump just will make it a lot more fun. Going after all of the republicans, one by one by their names . Thats a totally new realm were entering here. Well its colorful on the left as well. Youre talking about the metric system with Lincoln Chafee or Bernie Sanders at the ben jerrys event. Its a colorful election no doubt and Donald Trumps presence in it as we just saw today will make it all that more colorful. But Lincoln Chafee, to be clear, is at asterisk when it comes to polling. Donald trump isnt right there in the top tier but he does okay. Hes got a hugely successful reality show apprentice and Celebrity Apprentice. It gets a ton of viewers as he mentioned all of his products in this announcement speech. Hes very rich as he told us. So hell get he has fans. The big thing to remember is that no matter how he does in the national polls, and we may very well see a surge really quickly here he really is not his polling is not good in iowa. Lets look at his iowa polls and how do viewers see him there . It was interesting. I was there a couple of weeks ago. Theres a lot of voters out there who want to see him jump in for the entertainment factor but at the same time the Des Moines Register bloomberg poll showed that he actually had the highest unfavorable ratings of the republican candidates. And the highest number of likely caucus voters who said that they would not vote for him. So thats a huge hurdle for him Going Forward. You have some people who are questioning trumps ability to lead the country. He questions whether other candidates have what it takes. Lets listen. All of these politicians that im running against now, its so nice to say im running as opposed to if i run, if i run. Im running. But all of these politicians that im running against now, theyre trying to dissociate i mean you looked at bush it took him five days to answer the question on iraq. He couldnt answer the question. He didnt know. I said is he intelligent . Then i looked at rubio. He was unable to answer the question. Is iraq a good thing or a bad thing . He didnt know. He couldnt answer the question. How are these people going to lead us . How are we going to go back and make it great again . We cant. They dont have a clue. They cant lead us. Joe johns. Its very clear that donald trump will answer the question. I think the question is will the voters like the answer . So when you think of that whats the impact that trump may have on the rest of the field here. I think entertainment value, as i have sort of said before. But theres an unknowable here as well and that is the different kind of voice that he brings. The people surrounding trump think that he really connects with bluecollar workers, people who want Straight Talk out there, people who are concerned about their jobs people who want to see somebody whos already made it who they know will not be on the take to have a chance. So thats the question. Once you get past the reality show issues and, by the way, weve put in a question to nbc as to whether hell be able to even host the reality show while hes running for president and i did ask the campaign about that. They said look theres a possibility that one of his children might have to host Celebrity Apprentice until such time as hes not considered a president ial candidate. But a lot of questions out there. But the bottom line is its an unknowable as to whether hell really be able to connect. We do know he has an ability to shake hands and talk with people and how will that translate . The people around him say once he gets out there on the campaign trail its going to be a completely different story and youll start seeing him rise in the polls. He said that america is becoming a third world country and he said this about the American Dream. Sadly, the American Dream is dead. For but if i get elected president , i will bring it back bigger and better and stronger than ever before and we will make America Great again. Thats not exactly i mean in a way he shifts to a more optimistic view of the future but to Something Like the American Dream is dead. Sort of does that resonate . It captures peoples attention and i think the other thing you hear voters saying throughout is that someone like trump, hes fired people. He can make snap decisions, thats what they like about him. He said hed take negotiators, he knows the top negotiators, one for each country and hed just have them work it out. Can you imagine his cabinet meetings . Get me china on the phone. Voters love Straight Talk as joe was mentioning they love that. But they also look at a president ial candidate as a pilot and they want the pilot to fly the plane straight. And so they want discipline as well as Straight Talk and im just not sure that people are calmed having a calming sense of being on trumps airplane. Which im sure is beautiful. If he does it is beautiful. If he does push other candidates to answer the question in a clearer way, that could create a really interesting dynamic in this race. Well see sort of how he shapes it. Maeve, thank you, s. E, appreciate it joe johns in new york following this for us. And a programming note donald trump will be jake tappers guest on cnn state of the union at 9 00 a. M. Eastern this sunday. Sure to be very interesting. Coming up accused prison escape accomplice Joyce Mitchell got a visit from her husband today just hours after cnn learned the escaped inmates planned to murder him. Well have more on that and the latest on the search thats gone cold at this point. Up next, a u. S. Drone strike kills a key al qaeda leader and experts say its the biggest blow to the terror group since the death of osama bin laden. Well talk about that. You total your brand new car. Nobodys hurt,but there will still be pain. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay threequarters of what it takes to replace it. What are you supposed to do, drive threequarters of a car . Now if you had a Liberty Mutual new car replacement, youd get your whole car back. I guess they dont want you driving around on three wheels. Smart. New car replacement is just one of the features that come standard with a base Liberty Mutual policy. And for drivers with accident forgivness,rates wont go up due to your first accident. 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Well unfortunately not, because you still have this master bomb maker ibrahim alasiri at large and it may be al qaeda in yemen decide to launch some kind of attack against u. S. Aviation to avenge the death of nasir alwuhayshi. Wuhayshi was beloved. He had a very impressive jihadi resume. He was a close confidante of bin laden in the years before 9 11. Then he moved back to yemen and built up this group into a real powerhouse in yemen and at his death al qaeda in yemen is as strong as its ever been with more resources than ever before to launch these kind of International Operations against the United States and the west. And the successor to nasir alwuhayshi is seen by some including saudi counterterrorism as more dangerous, even than nasir alwuhayshi. Hes seen as the brains behind the operation. So theres still going to be a big threat from this group in the months and years to come. But for the global al qaeda network, brianna, this is a very big blow indeed be uz he was tipped to be the longterm successor of osama bin laden, somebody who was a valuable assets to al qaeda in their global contest with isis because of his popularity inside yemen, inside the global jihadi movement. Its the second strike the second u. S. Strike against a prominent terror suspect that weve seen just here in the last few days. You have the one in libya, now this one in yemen. What does it tell you about u. S. Intelligence . Especially in these areas where we thought maybe it wasnt so good places where it was difficult to have assets on the ground. Well, it suggests that they may well have assets on the ground both in libya with their strike against Mokhtar Belmokhtar over the weekend which may or may not have killed him but also in yemen potentially with strikes not just against wuhayshi but other leaders in the group. But in yemen i think its possible theres been a sudden ament of bravado from some of these aqap leaders. They saw all the reports about the United States pulling out back in the early spring away from yemen and perhaps felt a bit more comfortable about venturing out in the open. Well i dont think theyre going to feel that anymore. Do you think because of whats happened in yemen with the u. S. Pulling out you have this Saudi Air Campaign against the houthis there who are in power. Do you see this group becoming more powerful because there is this vacuum that the government used to fill in yemen . Brianna, thats exactly right. There is this political vacuum this complete chaos and al qaeda are able to exploit all of that. But theyre also able to exploit heart felt anger amongst sunni tribal factions in yemen because of this houthi shia takeover of territory in sanaa and other parts of the country. So theyve had a real recruiting winfall from that so they have more fighters really than ever before and theyve been able to take control of quite a lot of territory, including the southern port city where it would appear thats in aer alwuhayshi was killed in this drone strike. Paul cruickshank, always a pleasure. Thanks for being with us. And still to come the search for the escaped inmates in new york and the woman who allegedly helped them. Now we are learning more details about the nature of her relationship with the men. Also ahead, the white woman who stepped down from her position within the naacp breaks her silence, explaining why she let people think she was africanamerican. [ man ] look how beautiful it is. Honey, we need to talk. We do . I took the trash out. I know. And thank you so much for that. I think we should get a Medicare Supplement insurance plan. Right now . 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And this all comes after sources tell cnn that the fugitives, richard matt and david sweat, had planned to kill Lyle Mitchell but later abandoned the plan. The source also told cnn Joyce Mitchell was having a sexual relationship with escapee richard matt. Alexandra field is in west plattsburgh, new york. Alexandra, tell us what investigators have told you, certain will i as it seems like the trail has gone cold here. Sure, thats right, brianna. At this point the confidence that we saw last week that they were closing in on the fugitives, that they were in this area near the prison seems to have deflated yet they are still keeping a heavy presence here. You can see the security checkpoint behind me. Theyre looking at every car that passes through here. So nobody is ready to pull out yet. Theyre pursuing every lead they have hundreds of Law Enforcement officers but they havent had a clear sign indicating the suspects are still in this area since late last week brianna. So now a lot of the attention turning toward the investigation. Do we know how Joyce Mitchell is doing behind bars alexandra . We are definitely getting a picture of that. She did have her first jailhouse visit today from her husband lyle. The couple appear to be sticking together at this point. The sheriff says the two had a onehour visit. Shes permitted two hours worth of visits over the course of the week. It was a noncontact visit so they were separated by glass, speaking to each other on the ento. But it was a private phone call it was not a monitored phone call. We also heard from Joyce Mitchells attorney today who says husband lyle is standing by her. The attorney describes Joyce Mitchell as being remorseful and tearful. But the Sheriffs Department is saying that in her cell where they are having her under constant surveillance closely monitoring her that she has kept her cool that she has kept her composure. I want you to listen though, to what her attorney had to say about his impressions. Listen to this. All i know is that he said that hes standing by her so thats what he told me when i spoke to him. I dont know anything more about their conversation than that. She will be transferred to another jail . Thats what i was told by the sheriff late morning today. It may be happening now. I dont know. You heard it there. Joyce mitchell could be transferred to another jail. The sheriff here has said she might create too much of a distraction here while this search goes on. As for Lyle Mitchell investigators have questioned whether or not he had any kind of role in the escape plan and the plotting or if he had any knowledge of the plan. We do know that investigators have spoken with him, he has not been charged with anything at this point, brianna, but we know he has now retained an attorney to represent him. He has an attorney. Very interesting. Alexandra field there for us in west plattsburgh, new york. Thank you. Rachel dolezal now almost a household name right . Apparently she has no regrets about letting people believe for decades she was africanamerican even though she is white. Dolezal, who resigned yesterday as head of the naacps spokane, washington chapter says shes identified as black since she was a little girl. Heres how she explained it this morning on nbcs today show. Are you an africanamerican woman . I identify as black. You identify as black. Let me put a picture up be you in your early 20s, though. When you see this picture, is this an africanamerican woman or is that a caucasian woman . Thats not in my early 20s, but a little younger, i guess . Yeah 16 in that picture. Is she a caucasian woman or an africanamerican woman . I would say that visibly she would be identified as white by people who see her. But at the time were you identifying yourself as africanamerican . In that picture, during that time no. When did it start . I would say about five years old. You began identifying yourself as africanamerican . I was drying selfportraits with the brown crayon instead of the peach crayon and that was how i was portraying myself. Dolezal is estranged from her parents. They told cnn they were disturbed by the interview because in their view she refuses to be truthful about her identity. Just ahead, a proposal to boost nato capabilities in Eastern Europe provokes a chilling response from russia. Are the u. S. And russia headed for a new cold war . Now . Can i at least put my shoes on . If your bladder is calling the shots. You may have a medical condition called overactive bladder. Or oab youve got to be kidding me. Ive had enough its time to talk to the doctor. Ask your doctor how myrbetriq may help treat. Oab symptoms of urgency frequency, and leakage. Which may mean fewer trips to the bathroom. Myrbetriq mirabegron may increase your blood pressure. Myrbetriq may increase your chances. 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Revealed it might send more than a thousand tanks, Bradley Fighting Vehicles armored howitzers and other equipment to Eastern Europe to deter russian aggression. Cnn contributor Michael Weiss joining me now from new york and michael, when you see whats going on here, people say, hey, this has echoes of the cold war. Do you see things moving really in that direction . Yeah i think, you know, with the invasion of ukraine, the annexation of crimea what weve mean . The last year or so has been a return to First Principles for nato. Nato has spent the last several years, decades, really intervening in places that it wasnt really meant to intervene. Namely the middle east. And the whole purpose of the alliance is to fortify europe and it was designed to help contain russia, we thought those days passed with the collapse of the soviet union. Recall being in estonia in 2013 a few weeks after the last American Tank but some 60 plus years since the end of world war ii and i remember the estonian official quipping it wont be long before theyre invited back. The baltic stakes are very nervous about russia which even before ukraine had been provoking them militarily rhetorically, diplomatically the estonians themselves would like to see not just abrams tanks but Bradley Fighting Vehicles but nato soldiers in those tanks and fighting vehicles so this measure falls just short of what our Eastern European and baltic and nato allies have asked for. But it is indeed a method of deterrence. The question is is it going to work . What putin does rather effectively is what i call the double bind. He create asset of circumstance wrbs he s where he says if the west does x, i will do y but if the west doesnt do x, ill do y and a little bit more. Meaning if the u. S. So if you think the u. S. Doesnt do something hes emboldened to do more . Yes. But if the u. S. Does something hes also emboldened to do more. It sounds paradoxical but welcome to Russian Foreign policy. So for instance the threat now is the placement of Nuclear Missiles in kalin grad. There have always been noises about the placement of them in crimea which would put them not only right against the ukrainian mainland but north of turkey our other nato ally. So this is how the game is played. And im not convinced that a couple hundred of pieces of even heavy americanmade equipment is really going to alter current state of play which includes by the way, russian fighter jets russian Long Range Nuclear Bombers coming perilously close to nato airspace and in the case of nonnato airspace such as that of sweden penetrating that. There have been several sin stances all documented of some of these russian aircrafts they turn off their transponders and nearly collide. So youre looking at the possibility of more mh370 disasters perpetrate bid russian aircraft looking to test the limits here. And its not just air its also by sea as well submarines. Theyre poking around theyre trying to see what europes defenses are. Whats the reaction of european nations in their waters . Whats his end game though . I think thats the question. What does he ultimately want . Well i was at a conference in sweden where a woman said for putin, tactics is the strategy. Its not the end game with respect to europe. Keep the european nations, particularly nato and the e. U. Countries divided amongst themselves against eacheer. Some of these parties are taking money from the kremlin. Stall ininists and neonazis are in support of what putin is doing. Keep ukraine destabilized whether or not theres going to be a push the to connect crimea to the russian mainland through mariupol remains to be seen but they dont need to do that. Just keep a roiling sort of conflict going in the don and with respect to these other countries, russia has sizable ethnic minority populations scattered not just throughout Eastern Europe and the Baltic States but also in central asia. And the goal with them is the propagation of propaganda and disinformation. Put ethnic minority russians on notice that their livelihood and lives are under threat by this european and americanbacked juggernaut which is all sorts of fascistic and antirussian groups. So now what powers are trying to do is push back against this information war. I would submit thats more of a threat than the possibility of russia invading lithuania tomorrow. All right, Michael Weiss, i could talk to you all day about this. Thank you for the great insight. Appreciate it. Up next already hard hit by flooding you remember this texas once again bracing for some bad weather. A tropical storm. Well take you there live and find out how bad it could get. We have some very dangerous weather hitting the coast of texas. Tropical storm bill is now along the coastline there and torrential rain is starting to slam the already floodweary state. Millions of people are in the path of this storm. Sara sidner is in webster, texas, just outside of houston and, sara weve already seen some of the evacuations in galveston to the south of you are taking place. What are conditions like in the houston area right now . You know theyre doing what typical tropical storms do where you have bands of rain and bands of wind coming in sometimes its quiet then suddenly you get this. Were obviously in one of those rain and wind bands. I want to give you an idea. The estuary is here. Just to the right of us is actually the bay, the Galveston Bay. But these places here are in very lowlying land and so what youre seeing are people just making sure how are you doing . Just making sure that they have some of their stuff picked up and folks theyre used to this. Weve talked to a lot of the resident here who have said look we know when there is a rain event that we are probably going to get flooded if its really heavy rains so they know to usually pick upmost of the stuff in their garages and not put too many things there. There are some folks in town who are laughing about this saying look after we went through ike which came through and devastated this area were pretty much used to this. And this is nothing compared to what we have been through in the past. People though, are taking it seriously. Most folks are at home. Theres not a lot of traffic on the roads but, look these rain bands are coming in and they are getting stronger and stronger throughout the day. Back to you guys. You can see them just coasting across the standing water behinded you while the scene of that man where hes chopped up chairs in the garage it does seem routine but i know theyre used to this sarah but youve seen rain in the past couple of months. Is flooding the biggest threat Going Forward here . Yeah. That is what the Harris County Emergency Management folks have been saying that you know, if you see a sign thats up that says high water or a blockage of a street which they have blocked off some streets, do not drive through it, youre putting yourself in danger. And we saw that happen this past memorial day where folks were you know driving along and suddenly flash flooding. So theyre worried about flash flooding and general flooding this. Place obviously floods more thannors because its low lying and surrounded on two sides by water, Galveston Bay to our right and this estuary here. But folks are taking it in stride. I have to tell you, i think theyre used to these weather events and this one doesnt seem as scary. However, Harris County Emergency Management mentioned they were concerned because some folks went out and cleaned the shelves in some areas, buying things like water and snacks and they said look this is not a hurricane. This is a tropical storm, it doesnt look like it will be as terrible dont panic. Just do be careful and try to stay inside if you can. Dont go out on the road. But certainly so upsetting to an area just economically and to all of those homes that are already dealing with cleanup there. Sara sidner thanks so much for giving us a view there. Coming up next jeb bush is taking his new Campaign Message to New Hampshire. Well have a live report from the town hall meeting hes at. Put your hand over your heart. Is it beating . Good then my nutrition heart health mix is for you. Its a wholesome blend of peanuts, pecans and other delicious nuts specially mixed for people with hearts. Planters. Nutrition starts with nut. 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One day after officially launching his president ial Campaign Former governor jeb bush headed to New Hampshire to field questions from voters in an informal town hall setting and he aimed to set a tone of inclusion and commonality saying americans all want the same things. The future can be extraordinary for this country. I know the one thing that ties us together in this diverse country is we want a Better Future for ourselves and, more importantly, for our children and for some of us our grandchildren. Thats what defines us. We can be liberal and conservative republican democrat were diverse in every way, thats the unique nature of our country, thats what makes us extraordinary in some ways. But we all want Something Better for our families. I want to bring in my colleague jeff zeleny now to talk about what weve been hearing from jeb bush. Jeff as you listen to jeb bush, do you see him setting himself apart from other republican candidates . Is he able to do that effectively . Brianne, that good afternoon. I think at this point jeb bush is in the introduction phase of his candidacy. And i detected so much humility from him. He knows that he has to make his case to these New Hampshire voters. Its a fickle set of voters no question about it. And his family has a bit of a mixed history here. His father won the New Hampshire primary in 1988. His brother got second place in the New Hampshire primary in 2000. So jeb bush enters this race here with all of that in mind. But as you sid, he takes question after question after question. I would say it was polite and enthusiastic applause but he knows this is just the very very beginning of this process. Hes working, hes really working to try to reintroduce himself and the polls show he needs to do that. You got outside of this event because, with jeb bush comes controversy with the family name. You spoke with some protesters. What did they tell you . There were a small group of protesters out here which is typical of campaigning in iowa and New Hampshire and they of course, are focused on are concerned about common core his education proposals. And several signs that says, you know bush and clinton, we need something new. I they is to be expected but brianna, one thing is clear from his first town meeting, he had no confrontations inside this town meeting. He answered all the questions. He had an Interesting Exchange about the pope actually. Hes somewhat of a new catholic in the second part of his life. He was baptized into the Catholic Church and someone asked him if he agreed with the popes upcoming message on Climate Change and he sort of in a comment that was reminiscent of john f. Kennedy said he does not take his orders from the vatican. He praised the pope as a strong leader but he said he would not take his orders from the vatican. But overall, i have to say, brianna, he was met with here enthusiastic applause and his meeting was not interrupted. He had no immigration confrontations or anything like that. So as he heads to iowa he certainly is happy about his New Hampshire visit here today. All right, well keep watching as he travels through these early states. Jeff sellny there in new up next we have more president ial politics for you with donald trump joining the crowded field of republican candidates. What does this mean for jeb bushs campaign and for the crowded gop primary . Stay with us. Kids are expensive. So im always looking to get more for my money. Thats why i switched from uverse to xfinity. They have the most free on demand tv shows and movies on all my devices. Its perfect for me because my kids are costing me a fortune. Im going to cabo dont settle for uverse. Xfinity is perfect for people who want more entertainment for their money. The field of republican president ial candidates all the way up to one dozen now, real estate mogul and reality tv star donald trump is the latest entry into the race. He announced his run for the white house two hours ago after years of playing the will he or wont he game. This announcement comes less than 24 hours after jeb bush announced his campaign. What does this mean in the race for the republican nomination . Shawn spicer is the Communications Director and Senior Adviser for the republican committee. This is the Campaign Kickoff for don nal trump. And he said in it america is in decline. Lets listen. This is going to be an election thats based on competence. Because people are tired of these nice people and they are tired of being ripped off by everybody in the world and they are tired of spending more money on education than any nation in the world per capita. Than any nation in the world. And were 26th in the world. 25 countries are better than us at education. And some of them are like thirdworld countries. But were backing a thirdworld country. Whats your reaction to that . That sort of thesis of his argument for getting in the race and just to his announcement in general . Well i think, number one, we have a historic crop of candidates seeking the republican nomination. The number of quality candidates is actually his store rectoric. Its going to give the voters an opportunity to decide which direction they want to go and which vision is best. Were definitely giving the voters throughout the country an opportunity to look at several different ways that we can go and its not going to be without choices when it comes to our nomination. Technically you are not supposed to play favorites here. Thats just part of the deal when you work for one of the party committees. I want to ask you about something that we heard donald trump say, especially in light of the fact that a lot of republicans say, hey, this party needs to broaden its tent appeal to hispanic and other minority voters. This is what he said. When mexico sends its people they are not sending its best. They are not sending you. They are not sending you. They are sending people that have lots of problems and they are bringing those problems with us. They are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime, they are rapists and some i assume are good people. But i speak to Border Guards and they tell us what were getting and it only makes commonsense it only makes commonsense. There are a lot of hispanic voter who is will not be happy, shawn, with donald trump saying Something Like that. Let me read from the postmortem autopsy. Republicans take in the Hispanic Community and beyond we must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform. How does that need square with the kind of rhetoric that you hear donald trump using . Well i mean as far as pinning mexican americans with that kind of a brush, i think thats not helpful to the cause. But i think to the issue of illegal immigration, mr. Trump and others have addressed that we need to be very firm on Border Security and look at ways to make sure america has fixed its immigration problem and allow for people whether its from wherever to enter the country in a more systematic way for our economy. I want to ask you about jeb bush now. He touted his experience as governor he seemed to really take a swipe at his rivals like senator marco rubio who doesnt have that experience. Lets listen. As our whole nation has learned since 2008 executive experience is another term for preparation and there is no substitute for that. Were not going to clean up the mess in washington by electing the people who have helped create it or are incapable of fixing it. He is taking aim at establishment washington. Many of the candidates on his side in addition to hillary clinton, do you think that helps him break out of the pack . A lot of people are surprised he hasnt yet. Look as you mentioned at the top of the show mr. Trump becomes the 12th candidate seeking election. I think other senators Business People i think at the end of the day each one is going to try to figure out a message that they think resonates in a vision that they want to articulate the country. They are going to talk about their strengths, their vision is the best. I think in the case of governor bush thats playing off his years as being a successful governor. I think senator rubio, senator paul, senator cruise andz are going to talk about their solutions that they have found here in washington. I dont think its a bad thing. I dont think theres anybody running for president or sitting at home thats pleased with the things going on in washington. One thing that all of the candidates are talking about is trying to find a pathway forward to some of the problems that people in this country face and make america a better country than it is today. All right. Real quick, in just like a couple words, are you worried there are so Many Republican candidates . No. Im glad. The more candidates the better. They are bringing more people into this party and they are out there campaigning in places that we dont go talking to additional voters. This is a very very healthy thing for this party. Im glad and i hope more people get into it. Sean spicer with the rnc, thank you for being with us. Thats it for me. Ill be back at 5 00 p. M. Eastern. Amanpour is next for our International Viewers and for our north american viewers, Brooke Baldwin with newsroom starts right now. All right. Top of the hour. Youre watching cnn. Im Brooke Baldwin. Today with begin with new details that has authorities on edge. Two killers who broke out of a new york prison are still on the run. Here we are nearly 11 days after they tunnelled their way out. We are now learning that david sweat and richard matt may have planned to murder the prison employee who helped them escape. The threat of violence to her husband and mitchell herself may have forced her to cooperate with them