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I think theyre more focused on the deal and said, hey, we have to deal with that. If congress does not get the text of this deal which is largely complete there are still a lot of sticking points if they dont get this tomorrow really in the morning the deadline is july 9. Then congress will have 60 days. The focus is on getting an agreement. You even had some attentions shouting matches heard through closed doors between sharif and kerry. This could be posturing. Youre up against the wall. From the u. S. Side and kerry, youre going to want to hear a couple of things. He also doesnt want to give the impression and this has been a storyline out there, that the administration wants the deal so badly they will fold on everything. Listen clearly they still have some disagreements because they havent come to an agreement yet. Knick, youre hearing what jim is describing over the last few days. Critics of president obama, of secretary kerry saying they are too eager for a deal but then we heard president obama talked to congress and told senators he thinks there is less than a 50 50 chance of a deal. What is that trying to signal to people there in vienna who are negotiating . Reporter it certainly signals the iranian side that its rock solid. Theyre not going to move. The iranians knew this july 10th deadline was before congress and they were playing to that hoping the u. S. Would concede positions based on that time line. The iranians for days have been saying they dont care if it blows through the 9th the 10th the 11th. If it goes a few days longer so what . Its not the end of the world. I think what we saw, we saw the u. S. Side recognize perhaps they were being played by the iranians in that way, turn it around against the iranians saying we dont care about that deadline either. Where do you stand . We heard the issue of wanting this arms embargo lifted. The iranians today, their president was told by president putin of russia he supports the lifting of the arms embargo. If that isnt enough for the iranian president to see hes going to have support and a Security Council resolution that would frame the agreement here then you have to begin to ask what is going to be enough because certainly were hearing messages of support for the iranian side from the russians on key issues for the iranians. But it does seem certainly yesterday the talks seemed in free fall. Today they seem to have a better grasp on them. From that position of the United States secretary kerry being too ready to cave in, i think really weve moved beyond that. The recognition is that is not the case here. Brianna . Jim, i know you want to react to that. I want to get this headline in. We heard just a moment ago from josh earnest, the White House Press secretary in the White House Briefing he says there is no deal that has been reached with eyeiran. So no deal. So then what is this . Just a status report . Do we read the tea leaves on how optimistic secretary kerry is . I think for sure. Id be surprised if he walks up and says im finished. Im going home. Were not going to reach a deal. Just how much more distance they have to cover to get to an agreement or just to express that there is hope that they will and theyll give it two times. Thats the sort of statement i would expect here because that seems to be the status. And we would know if there was a deal coming. But the point that nic mentioned that i think is key here some signs of disagreement within the west and thats a problem at this stage of the negotiations if you have russia saying in public maybe iran we dont need the arms embargo, thats xwhawhat they want. That would be difficult to sell at home if he gave up in these negotiations. That would be a tough one. Its not just between the west but within the west on one of those key issues. In a way then you end up having iran china, and russia facing off against the u. S. And its allies. Whats very important, theres a lot of talk about what happens if theres not a deal. Lets look at the scenarios people bring up military action et cetera. Lets say the talks do fall apart. One real prospect is that this whole sanctions regime has been built up over several years, really hard work its fairly easy to get the u. S. And europe on the same page but china and russia this is 13 years of work right . Exactly. Enormous disagreements over ukraine. Russian bombers, that kind of thing. But that coalition, if you dont have an agreement here very unlikely to Stay Together if theres no agreement and then iran starts breaking the sanctions regime and theyre selling their oil that kind of thing. Neither side wants the talks to fall apart. Nic, one of the issues weve seen one of the sticking points has to do with irans past behaveior and whether it tried to seek Nuclear Weapons capability. Were learning from a u. N. Investigation that they believe that was the case and yet iran is maintaining, no thats not what we did. Our Nuclear Program has been just for energy. So how does that complicate matters here . Reporter hugely. And i dont think that issue has been probably resolved. Possible military dimensions how much of the Nuclear Technology did iran use to try to develop Nuclear Weapons . There are substantially 12 issues on the pmd account. Iran was beginning to answer those a few years back. They answered one of them. There are 11 really outstanding. The iaea chief went to tehran last week to talk about this but it was very clear from this statement when he came back that he might have made some progress on it but he said it would take to the end of the year and goodwill on the iranian side to begin to go further to answering all those questions. So i think that has been a key stumbling block, that may have been what we heard from the French Foreign minister. Certainly that is an issue that he was putting on the record as an outstanding issue the last couple of days. So unless that is resolved unless it is substantially answered that key question that iran has been holding out with International Nuclear watchdog the iaea for so long already, that if that is not addressed in a way that everyone can feel comfortable and that iran has really told everything on that then again, that lowers the chances of getting a deal. Brianna . And as we try to get a sense of exactly where this is were learning new reaction from irans foreign minister secretary kerrys counterpart, the man negotiating on behalf of iran in vienna. The chief iranian negotiator. He tweeted his comment just a few minutes ago. Were working hard but not rushed to get the job done. Mark my words, you cant change horses in the middle of a stream. That echoes to some degree when the french minister said that we are going to continue talks into the night, that theyre still working, in effect. They dont have an agreement but theyre not going to pick up their gloves and go home. Theyre going to keep working. Do you its funny because diplospeak is so subtle compared to what people normally say. When you hear that tweet, when you hear an iranian official saying god only knows if well have a de. You hear president obama saying less than 50 50 percent chance, you almost multiply it in real speak for what it means. Can we really read into what stage this is . Is this the final stage of jockeying . Is the Obama Administration covering themselves because of critics back here at home . How do you read this . You have to run it through a major filter here. Politics are involved but also negotiations. And both sides what they say in private may be very different from public. Both have very sensitive politics back home so speaking to a domestic audience both sides want to show theyre being tough. And theyre negotiators. Weve all been involved and people say a lot of stuff during negotiations to color how things are and to firm up their position. So i think we have to take this all with a grain of salt. The key messages here are, as the white house said there is no deal yet, havent reached an agreement, but theyre not giving up yet either. I think we can expect something similar from secretary kerry. Lets face facts here. Time is running out to some degree, at least to get a deal done by that congressional deadline. Ive been told by folks theres another possibility where, listen even if they go home in the next 2448 hours, they might let the interim agreement continue and say, listen when we have something to talk about we can come back to the table a little later. That would be a Huge Development and we are awaiting secretary john kerry to see what he will say there in vienna a morning of shuttle diplomacy over Irans Nuclear capabilities. All sides saying theres progress. Is there really progress . Well talk about that after a quick break. Shoot joining me here now a member of the Foreign Relations committee, so he knows a lot about whats going on here. Were waiting on secretary john kerry there in vienna. We are expecting him to come out and talk after a morning of diplomacy after all of the nations involved in the talks over Irans Nuclear capabilities. Senator, thanks so much for joining us. And you were in this meeting with president obama, what he has to say about where the progress of these talks are is so important and what he told you was less than a 50 50 percent chance . We had a great chance to talk about a wide range of issues. He made of point of saying dont be concerned and anxious about what the Supreme Leader is saying, about what iranians are saying. I wont sign i wont present to you a bad deal. Sanctions relief only after the iranians meet conditions. Ill insist we freeze or prevent pathways. And i found that reassuring. You took away from this meeting that he is willing to walk away . Yes. He said that. And the strongest position is to say thats not good enough for me, im out of here. A lot of republicans are saying thats not where hes had. We heard from the number two defensemen crass in the house this week, steny hoyer. He said hes worried the u. S. Will get ropeadoped here. I have confidence in secretary kerry. I have confidence that Wendy Sherman and the other folks on his team are negotiating hard and im hopeful the deal will a tough deal an enforcement deal and one i can support. If its not a good deal i wont support. We see what appears to be a state Department Aide putting remarks on the podium a sign john kerry may be very close to coming out. Talk to us about this deadline as we wait for him. A target wait i think is a good way to put it. East coast time were talking the text would need to come in the morning. We see john kerry. Youre saying the deadline isnt as hard and fast. Theres a 30day review period if they get us the text. Lets listen to john kerry in vienna, austria. Well good evening, everybody, and let me start by thanking all of you for your remarkable patience. I know in fact all of us involved in this know that this has been a very difficult couple of weeks for the many journalists who are here in vienna with us. But let me assure you we would not be here continuing to negotiate just for the sake of negotiating. Were here because we believe were making Real Progress toward a comprehensive deal. But as i have said many times, and as i discussed with president obama last night, we are not going to sit at the negotiating table forever. We also recognize that we shouldnt get up and leave simply because the clock strikes midnight and i emphasize given that the work here is incredibly technical and the stakes are very very high we will not rush and we will not be rushed and we wont let ourselves be rushed through any aspect of this. All that we are focused on is the quality of the agreement, and that is what will continue to define our work. If, in the end, we are able to reach a deal it has to be one that can withstand the test of time. Its not a test of a matter of days or weeks or months. Its a test for decades. Thats our goal here. And the simple fact is that despite all of the progress that we have made and its real some of the tough issues remain unresolved. We know that difficult decisions dont become easier over time. One way or the other those decisions must be taken very soon. That is precisely why all of our delegations remain hard at work here in vienna and its why a number of my counterparts returned last night and are here now so that we can continue to push through on the tough issues and ultimately see whether or not the good deal that we have been working for so hard is possible to achieve. Thats what were working on and thats what well continue to work on. Thank you very much. How long are you willing to stay mr. Secretary . I just said this is not openended. President obama made it very clear to me last night you cant wait forever for the decision to be made. We know that. If the tough decisions dont get made we are absolutely prepared to call an end to this process. Thank you all very very much. Thank you. The president said its less than 50 50 that you get a deal. Secretary kerry there, lets listen what is he saying . Thanks. Quick final words from him. He said this is not openended secretary coons, but its not specifically closed off at a date either. Doesnt that give some sort of wiggle room here . You heard him say decisions dont get over with in time they need to be made soon. There are a few critical unresolved issues. As you have reported in recent days the iranians tried this gamebit of introducing the u. N. Arms embargo should be lifted. This is about irans elicit Nuclear Weapons program, which should remain in place. That was an effort by the iranians to drive a wedge between us and the russians who are also participants in these negotiations. But it did. It did drive a wedge, right . They are not now changing their tune and leaving negotiations or siding with the iranians. I think it was a distraction and my hunch is what were hearing from secretary kerry is a determination to send a message to the iranian Supreme Leader the deal on the table is the best deal youre going to get. You need to accept it or were going to walk away. Is there another level of rhetoric here to communicate that . Hes saying were open to walking away but hes not saying when. Hes not this is not take it or leave it. Not yet. My hope is that if the iranians will not agree to some of the core issues that are unresolved about inspections so that there are sensitive or military sites where we have legitimate concerns there might be elicit weapons or Research Going on we have to have access full accounting for their possible military dimensions of their longstanding illicit Nuclear Weapons program, and real limits on future r d. If they arent willing to accept the position the United States and our key allies have put forward, then we should walk away from the deal. The president has long said and i agree with this and so do most of the members of congress that no deal is better than a bad deal and i appreciate that secretary kerry just said the test for this agreement, should there be one, isnt whether it survives a few months or years but decades. As someone who may well be serving in the senate for a number of years ahead and is very concerned about the flawed deals that we reached in north korea and pakistan where those countries ultimately did get the bomb, im very concerned that we not sign off on that president kerry not sign off on a deal that isnt enforceable over a long period of time. Im encouraged by what secretary kerry said and i do think there will come a point here soon where we should walk away if the iranians wont agree. When you talk to americans, when you talk to your constituents in delaware how do you explain to them why this matters so much to them personally . What i explained to them is iran is a country that is one of the foremost sponsors of terrorism in the world, that theyre doing horrible things around the middle east and that we have been really in tension and conflict and i dont trust them and neither should they. They have been trying to get a Nuclear Weapon now for many years. Weve pulled together an Impressive International coalition. Weve imposed sanctions on them and this is the moment when weve got a chance at resolving it diplomatically. If we dont it will pose a real threat to our troops in the region and to our allies in the region. Jim sciutto, you just listened to secretary kerrys remarks from vienna. What did you take from them . I think a couple key takeaways. One, theyre still talking about but, two, there are still disagreements on key issues and then john kerry repeating a point we heard from the president just last week and weve begun to hear more of this week and that is if those key issues arent resolved and the message is if iran does not make key concessions on some of these issues then theyre willing to walk away. Again a very public warning, hope that john kerry said if they didnt believe they had a chance of resolving the issues but at the same time major issues remain and putting out that warning in effect that if iran does not come to the table, does not move then we will walk away from the talks, says john kerry. How much that have is negotiation posturing at this point, impossible to tell because, as we were just talking earlier, both sides have a lot invested in this deal and after two years of did i mroepplomacy it would be very difficult to walk up away from the table. The translation there, were not quite to take it or leave it but were on our way. Jim sciutto, thank you. Senator jim coons, we appreciate you being with us as well. Did the rnc Ask Donald Trump to tone down his act . Our reporting says yes. Trump says no. Whats really going on here . Plus what the billionaire had to say about the controversy over his remarks on immigration. We have that next. When i started at the shelter, i noticed benny right away. I just had to adopt him. Hes older so he needs my help all day. When my back pain flared up we both felt it i took tylenol at first but i had to take 6 pills to get through the day. Then my friend said try aleve. Just two pills, all day. And now, im back for my best bud aleve. All day strong and try aleve pm now with an easy open cap. Youre driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pickup truck slams into your brand new car. One second it wasnt there and the next second. Boom youve had your first accident. 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His incendiary comments about undocumented mexican immigrants has the head of the rnc telling him to tone it down but trump disputes that characterization as well as that a protest is about to given outside the future site of his luxury hotel in downtown washington, d. C. We will go into depth on both angles in just a moment. Despite upsetting the party and the public in an interview with Anderson Cooper, trump doesnt back down. The Washington Post says some of the workers building this Beautiful Hotel urgyoure building in washington, d. C. , are illegal. Theyve talked to 15 workers. They came here through asylum. Theyre now legal. But a number did say theyre illegal. Isnt it hypocritical for you saying that illegal immigration is killing this country to be employing Illegal Immigrants . I read the story. That does not name many names. They said they spoke to one or two but they dont name them and dont even know if its true. What they say is several of the men mostly from el salvador have earned status through immigration programs targeting Central Americans fleeing civil wars or natural disasters. Others acknowledge they remain in the country illegally. They dont give us numbers. They have to give us names. If theyre illegal, theyre not going to give names. We believe so strongly i hired a very big contractor one of the most prestigious, the best in the world to build the building, its their responsibility to make sure they have done doesnt the buck stop with you, though . It does oh, absolutely. We have gone out of our way to make sure everybody in that building is legal and we do have some that were that became legal. We have some many i think, that became frankly, me, you, everybody, ultimately were all sort of in the group of immigrants right . But we have done that to the absolute letter of the law. Were very very careful. The Washington Post can go there and talk to 15 people and find some Illegal Immigrants they havent shown us anything. I wish they would give us names. We would get them out immediately. You must have a guy on the job site we have more than one and check it probably more carefully than any job ever built. Anderson, you have either 11 where from 11 million to 34 million Illegal Immigrants in this country. Theyre all over the place. Nobody knows even where they come from. They probably come some from the middle east. You dont know where theyre coming from. We check on that building probably more carefully than anybody thats ever built a building before and i think from what i heard, and i just checked it this morning because i asked a question because i read the article, also we are absolutely in beautiful, perfect shape. Now i wish theyd give us the names. We would get rid of them immediately. Daily beast the headline says theyre talking about the building were sitting in right now. Trump tower was built on undocumented immigrants backs. How many years ago was that . This was, what 35 years ago. This was a court case 200 Illegal Immigrants polish workers, guys working for 5 i hire a contractor. The contractor then hires a subcontractor. They have people. I dont know i dont remember that was so many years ago. 35 years ago they said this was a court case settled in 1999. You settled with them. Its all right. Its fine. I remember the case. Frankly i remember it very well. We hire contractors. The contractor highly prestigious, they go out, hire subcontractors. Sometimes the subcontractors will have people working but, you know its pretty far down the line. This was 200 polish workers working without hard hats, noticeable on a union job. When you have to go back 35 years to tell me something, thats pathetic to be honest with you. Can you guarantee you dont have illegal or undocumented workers working for you in hotel or various projects . I cant guarantee it. We have 34 million in the country. I used to hear 11 million. Now 34 million. I can say this we work very hard to make sure that everybody is legal as opposed to illegal. Theres, as you said 11 million who knows how many million. Nobody knows. The most scary of all, our government doesnt know. They dont have a clue. What would you do with the one already here . You talk about building a great wall on the border or parts of the border about being tough. What would you do with the ones already here . I wouldnt even think about anything until i built a wall impenetrable. Nobody coming into this country illegally. Thats number one. Number two, i would get the ones that are criminals, drug dealers, and the people that are forced in by mexico and you know exactly what im talking about because mexico is smarter and sharper and more cunning and, frankly, have much better negotiators than we have. And i would get the ones that are forced in by the country of mexico into our country, forced in those people would get out and theyd get out fast. The rest id be looking at seriously. Would there be a pathway to citizenship for youre talking 11 million at the very least. Too early for me to say, and when you say citizenship, the most wed be talking about was legal. Let me just tell you, before i even think about that we have to build we have to build a wall a real wall not a wall that people walk through. Still ahead, Fact Checking donald chump. Well talk to Anderson Cooper live about his sitdown interview, plus we just got off the phone with trump. Up next what he had to say about that phone call with the head of the Republican National committee. Stay with us. Im only in my 60s. Ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. So when i found out medicare doesnt pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. Then i got a Medicare Supplement insurance plan. 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Trump actually spoke to the head of the rnc Reince Priebus on the phone yesterday and since then theres been a controversy over what was actually discussed. Here to help us out we have joe johns. Take us through the back story on this and what youve learned here. Reporter right. Well a bunch of mixed messages coming out of this right now. Probably the best way to starp is with Donald Trumps tweet after having the conversation with Reince Priebus. He essentially said it was a congratulatory conversation more than anything else. Now the rnc is calling this a respectful conversation. They have to walk a line because the Republican Party especially since the president ial cycle of 2012 has been trying to make inroads to latino voters. The overarching concern is trumps comments are hurting as opposed to helping. Trump is saying chairman priebus did not chastise him, per se but trump is admitting the subject of his comments on immigration did come up during that brief conversation. So different characterizations about the same thing. The rnc trying to walk a line on this and trump saying it was more or less congratulatory brianna. And our own jeremy diamond, political reporter here with me now, you just got off the phone with donald trump, right . Yeah. It was an interesting conversation. We had all of this reporting saying that donald trump had told by the rnc chief to tone it down. I get on the phone with trump, its a congratulatory call. Lets be real. He was congratulating me. He said priebus has never seen anything like it talking about it his surge in the polls to number two right behind jeb bush. Lets listen to part of the call. Here we are. It was a very nice call and it was really more of a congratulatory call. He said how well were doing and saw we went to number one in various polls. He talk about how well were doing and how hes literally not seep seen anything like this. It was a nice call that lasted probably ten minutes, maybe a couple minutes more than that. That was the end of the call. Okay. Now the rnc not officially commenting on this right, jeremy . I called up shawn spicer. The spokesman. So theyre not commenting but isnt it possible that but were sort of hearing their side of things. This was us telling him to tone it down. Cant they both kind of be right here . Hey, congratulations, by the way, tone it down and its just about what one really called about and what one is sort of hearing in the conversation . Yeah. Its about how much of the conversation i guess, centered around there is what theyre differing on. Trump wasnt so clear the comments, the suggestion as he called it of toning it down was specifically about his immigration comments. He said priebus was suggesting he should tone it down generally but at the same time saying priebus understands thats trumps brand. So theyve got a lot of different people to try to make happy here and theyre walking a fine line. They sure are. Anderson cooper, who had the interview with donald trump, joining us now. Anderson youre hearing this discussion that happened. You interviewed donald trump. Do you get a sense that he might tone it down . I dont see him toning it down. I mean certainly he seems to be doubling down if anything you know he is unapologetic about really everything he has said, even a tweet that was retweeted by trump or by somebody in his campaign, but on his twitter page and then deleted by trump because it was viewed as offensive to jeb bush and his wife. Though it wasnt something trump said. It was something he retweeted. Trump said he didnt authorize the tweet to go out but doesnt regret it he doesnt apologize for it. Even though the tweet itself was deleted. Its rare that you will hear donald trump saying something negative, as you hear in that interview, most things with trump are superlative. Its a great conversation. Its the best hotel. Its the best subcontractor to hire. Thats who donald trump is. Thats his style. What did he say to one suggestion about the 35 years ago undocumented immigrants were used working on his hotel, he said thats pathetic. Thats how he ended that. He was saying its pathetic if you have to go back 35 years to bring up something, and this was all based on a daily beast article. The thing is will his opponents in the gop, when hes on the debate stage, will they be the ones bringing this up . We remember it in the debate cycle mitt romney was attacked for allegedly having Illegal Immigrants working on his yard at his house in massachusetts hired by whoever he had hired the company to do his yard. So its very possible that some of these other challengers, if things get contentious in these debates, will start to bring this up and, as you said there will be a demonstration, i guess, at this washington hotel, though as trump says, you know if they knew the names of the people they would fire them though they somehow the Washington Post was able to find these people. The person from the Trump Organization hasnt been able to find these people apparently. So well see if anything more develops on that. That just goes to the point, right, that you dont have to go back 35 years to perhaps find some evidence that the Washington Post was able to find some evidence here. The press is spending a lot of time covering analyzing trumps comment. We have the first debate only a month from now. What do you think . Does he have the potential to really hijack the debate . Well i dont know about hijack. He has the potential to dominate. He has dominated the conversation you know. I mean hes the first one to claim credit for bringing illegal immigration front and center into this campaign and, you know based on his comments he has forced all the other gop challengers to really address his remarks, to kind of take things based on what he is saying and pivot off them but he is really dominating the conversation and so i think thats the concern certainly for a lot of people in the gop that at these debates how did their candidates that they support look standing next to donald trump and reacting to donald trump, and do they take him on . Do they ignore him . I think thats got to be a debate thats being had among all these candidates. Its such a conundrum and i want to talk more with you about it anderson. If you can stick around if you dont mind well chat more after a quick break. Not everyone in the Republican Party even wants donald trump to back down. 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I was i was doing a radio interview in alabama this morning and i was told by the host that everybody down there is talking about donald trump and favorably so. So i think that theres a mistake here a problem for the republican establishment, if you will to go after him. Perhaps they should pay more attention to what hes saying and try and talk about the issues instead of him. You wrote in American Spectator that republicans in the ruling class are trying to shut down the base of the party over immigration. Tell us more about that. Well, theres a feeling i think this began to manifest itself when senator cruz tried to defund obamacare back in 2013. And since that time theres been a feeling of a disconnect between the base of the party and the folks in washington and the lobbyist complex, et cetera. And the illegal immigration issue has just not been on the radar at all and yet people are clearly, you know aware of the stories in their own area. And i think that when we had this terribly tragic situation in san francisco, this suddenly put a name and face and a National Focus on this and this is something that donald trump has been talking about for a long time. And now because of the confluence of circumstances, they are forced to talk about it and everybody else from jeb bush has got to get into the issue which i think is a good thing but there certainly is a feeling i would almost call it hostility towards the Republican Base the republican establishment in washington from people outside the beltway here who feel that they are not being listened to on anything and that donald trump is picking up on that. Jeffrey lord great insight. Thank you for your analysis there. Donald trump is a selfpromoter, really known for his swagger and certainly never seems afraid to speak about himself, as we saw last night on ac 360. Heres the good news. Im very rich. I built an unbelievable company. The money youre talking about is a lot but its peanuts for me but its still a lot. More expensive than a campaign would cost. Im very good at contracts. I do that very well unlike our country, i do contracts very well or i wouldnt be sitting here talking to you right now. Ive given millions to everybody. So do you give though, based on principles or do you give based on who is going to do things for you politically . They all love me. Lets put it that way. Do you know when you get on a stage during those debates and your republican challengers are going to say, look youre all over the place. Youre giving money to Hillary Clinton harry reid nancy pelosi. I get along with everybody. Anderson cooper is joining us now on the heels of the interview that he did with donald trump. Did you get the impression that donald trump is in a president ial race to win it or did it strike you more that this is a publicity stunt or maybe a combination of both . Well i dont look i dont know what is going on in his head. I can tell you, you know hes doing well in the polls and certainly says hes in it to win it. You know whether or not he actually believes that he can take the white house, i dont know. Theres no way to really tell that. I just dont think its some sort of publicity stunt. He has people on the ground and hes doing very well in the polls and devoting a lot of time to this and i think hes really serious about it and certainly serious about getting his opinions getting himself in front of cameras and his ideas across. As you well know you did the interview with Hillary Clinton, shes barely talked to the national media. Donald trump has done a number of interviews. He put in a call again he took a call again from cnn to talk about what the rnc call was. So hes very comfortable in front of the cameras. He likes the attention, no doubt about it. I think hes enjoying the process even though its costing him some money with some deals and i think hes certainly in it you know for the early part of the primary season and i think hell wait and see how he does. I think it all depends on how far he can really go and be successful. When you talked to him off camera compared to on camera is it what you see is what you get with him . It is. Look he can be a very charming guy and hes you know theres a lot of politicians who one talks to is not very pleasant to talk to them. They dont really answer questions, they dont really engage. Donald trump is very engaging. Hes very polished. Hes very comfortable in front of the camera hes very comfortable with people seems to enjoy talking to people hes used to the attention. He doesnt arrive with a huge entourage, he doesnt have a lot of people whispering in his ear telling him to wrap up the interview. This went on for some 45 minutes or so and nobody ever said wrap it. I just said okay i think weve ended the conversation. So hes a candidate unlike a lot of other candidates out there and i think thats clearly part of the appeal. Thats clearly you know you look at the people who are doing very well in the polls and jeb bush has high name recognition, you have trump, ben carson after trump in New Hampshire and elsewhere. Its people who are not well politician who is are out of the mainstream not viewed as politicians. And i think it makes it difficult for someone like Chris Christie who is selling himself as a straight talker somebody who tells it like it. Donald trump has really stolen that mantel has really grabbed that mantel and is running with it. Thats a reporters dream, when you get to say when the interview is over not the person that youre interviewing. Thats amazing. Its kind of refreshing ive got to say. And he is oddly accessible in this way for a guy as rich as he is as powerful as he is he is kind of accessible. And i think people like that. Yeah. Anderson cooper thank you so much. You can catch more of andersons extended interview with trump right here on cnn tonight at 8 00 eastern on ac 360. Thats it for me. Ill be back at 5 00 eastern. The news continues right after a quick break. I like your place. Oh, thank you, make yourself at home ill be right back. Hm. Shes got x1. Alright. Huh, hm, ohh. Monster . She seemed so nice at dinner. Im back ahh uhh. Whatcha doing . Ohh, just. Watchin law order. Awww, youre nervous. Thats so cute. Call and upgrade to get x1 today. Here you go. Youre watching newsroom. Im brooke baldwin. The Confederate Flag is coming down. Right now its still padlocked. Its still flying above the capital grounds there in Columbia South carolina. But a bill to remove it is now on the way to the governors desk. The