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Have been reunited since this court order was made law . We dont, jim. There was a Conference Call yesterday with the hhs secretary, and simply either dont know or are not telling us how many kids have been reunified. This that call, they specifically said they know of zero new reunifications that have happened since the last time we had this metric nine days ago. So certainly incomplete numbers at best and certainly at worst, signs of not a lot of progress as they work towards this goal to reunify kids with their parents. Today were talking a lot about these deadlines that are looming for the administration today. They do believe theyre in compliance with that first deadline, the deadline today being they will have had to make contact between parents and kids by the telephone. But for the next two deadlines you just referenced, by tuesday, the deadline for kids under 5 to be reunified, and we know thats a hundred kids, and the next deadline that, larger deadline, july 26th, all parents and children need to be reunified. It does not look like theyre going to hit that deadline at all. We know that theres a hearing in san diego to update the progress. Going into that, we know that they are going to seek an extension likely for those last two deadlines. They will likely lay out the challenges theyve had in reunifying kids with their parents, the fact they say this dna testing, as they are indeed using, is taking a lot of time. Notable, though, of course those are challenges of their own making, given that this is all coming from the zero tolerance policy. But its certainly interesting, jim. As this scramble to make these reunifications and the scrutiny on them over their immigration policy was an interesting moment just a short time ago we saw Vice President mike pence travel to the i. C. E. Headquarters here in washington, d. C. , with secretary nielsen at his side. It certainly comes at a time when that agency is facing a lot of scrutiny from many members of congress, Many Democrats, some calling for the abolishment of the agency. We saw a political message coming from the Vice President. Heres what he had to say. The hashtag abolish i. C. E. Has now taken its place on the internet. The sad fact is, though, it isnt just the expression of the radical left thats been speaking out against i. C. E. Lately. The truth is that opposition of i. C. E. Has moved to the center of the Democratic Party itself. Just when you thought the democrats couldnt move farther to the left, leading members of the Democratic Party, including candidates for higher office, are actually openly advocating the abolition of i. C. E. , an agency that protects the American People and our communities every single day. Senator elizabeth warren, senator kirsten gillebrand. So certainly interesting there, jim, that hes calling out a few of these democrats and very few who have actually called for i. C. E. To be abolished, trying to move that to more the commonplace in the Democratic Party. There have been Many Democrats who have called for changes for i. C. E. But only a few who have called for the abolishment of the agency. You might read into that a desire to turn the page from the family separation issue to the i. C. E. Issue. Sunlen, thanks very much. Well, President Trump is sharpening his attacks on a number of fronts. Just listen to his barrage on several democrats but also republicans. Lets say im debating pocahontas, right. I promise you ill do this. You know those little kits they sell on television . Learn your heritage. Well take that little kit, but we have to do it gently because were in the metoo generation. We have to be very gentle. And we will very gently take that kit and we will slowly toss it, hoping it doesnt hit her and injure her arm. And even though we got a little surprise vote that evening you all remember that evening. Somebody came in with a thumbs down after campaigning for years that he was going to repeal and replace. Thousand points of light. Ive never figured that out. It was put out by a republican, wasnt it . Democrats want anarchy. They really do. And they dont know who theyre playing with, folks. I said it the other day. Yes, she is a low iq individual, maxine waters. I said it the other day. Honestly, shes somewhere in the mid60s. Well, listen, what a long list. Joining me now, dana bash. Also, senior White House Correspondent for bloomberg, margaret. Dana, certainly a lot to unpack there. I got to tell you, watching those comments again, the way the president dismissed the metoo movement, even some of the physical motions he was making there, what do you make of those offthecuff comments . Does that work politically for this president . Sure, it works politically for this president , until it doesnt. But i think what i make of those comments is those were vintage donald trump, jim. The way that he has dealt with allegations in his own life, 34r5r particularly since he began running for president and since hes become president , is to do just that, deflect and defend and ignore and almost project on others. It is classic, classic trump. He kind of disparages a movement, which i think its kind of the modern day or the 2018 version of the 2016 line that were so politically correct. Its the same kind of thing. It doesnt make it right. It doesnt make it, you know, palatable for a lot of the independent voters, swing voters. Female voters who are going to really make or break some of the elections this november, particularly in the suburbs. But this is trump. Isnt it more than unpalatable . Isnt it outright offensive to dismiss a movement with substance to it . Weve seen a number of member accused of this, and the president himself accused of this, in the midst of ongoing litigation related to this kind of treatment of women if you think of the case with storm y daniels and other women who have accused him. No question. You can come up with as many adjectives as you want. You certainly would and should run the spectrum and the gamut. But i guess my point is that it is important to call him out on it. It is important to say what were saying. But it is not a surprise he would do this. No, fair point. Margaret, of course there were a lot of targets last night. Two of them were republicans. Run wi one of them a favorite republican punching bag, john mccain, calling out his vote on the obamacare reveal. But also going after george h. W. Bush on the thousand points of life. A man in his mid90s now, a former president , facing his own health issues, Serious Health issues. I wonder, whats the constituency for attacks on members of his own party . This seems like sore of core base messaging. The trump base, which is not the same as establishment republicans, not the same as george h. W. Bushs party, or literally anyone in the bush family or like a 50mile radius around the bush family is who the messaging is for. The president seems to be signaling that he believes that this base messaging will enthuse. Turnout will perhaps keep moderate or bubble republicans at bay. Its sort of a veiled warning for folks like murkowski or collins who have big votes coming up. If george h. W. Bush and john mccain are not off limits, nobody is off limits. The test is going to come down to november. Right now the president feels like this kind of message, number one, hes shifted from governing to campaigning. He loves to campaign. Hes back in it with both feet. Number two, he thinks this will be effective. Its quite a gamble. The h. W. Comments made a lot of republicans in congress uncomfortable. Im sure uncomfortable, but dana, not a lot of public expression of that discomfort. Republicans particularly with the midterms just four months away now, they made a calculation, have they not, that going after this president can be politically dangerous for them. Sure, it can be politically dangerous and has been politically dangerous. Look at mark sanford in south carolina. It was fatal for him, politically fatal for him. Having said that, youre right that i think in part its because this is july 4th week. Congress isnt around. If you look at twitter, there have been a lot of comments expressing outrage from former bush staffers, from people who have you negotiatiknow, peop worked as ambassadors to elsewhere in bush white houses and beyond the bush white houses. Heck of a lot easier when you dont have your lek troelectora fortunes in danger. This is happening after the white house announced yesterday the hiring of the former fox executive bill shine, now deputy chief of staff for communications. He of course resigned from fox last year after being accused of covering up several Sexual Harassment scandals there. Margaret, you cover the white house very closely. Did you in last nights speech by the president see some influence from bill shines messaging now that hes got a Communications Role . Its a great question. I think were all really homing in on this because the question is was the president completely acting on his own, letting bill shine know hes going to keep doing things his way, or was bill shine encouraging these things . On some level, we watched this play out with john kelly about a year ago when he came in as chief of staff. Everyone was looking to read the tea leaves on every action of trumps, whether that was authorized by john kelly or a reaction against john kelly. I think well certainly begin to see bill shines influence. Also remember the trump white house, trump himself, and what you see on fox are so symbiotic. Who knows which came first, the chicken or the egg. But i do think that this was vintage trump again. If you met somebody from mars and that person said, whats donald trump like . You would put them in the audience at that rally last night because that was across the board donald trump. Shockingly so. No question. Hes his own dmcommunications director, right . Bingo. Thank you very much. Well, the president s trade war against china has officially begun with china now retaliating. Now prices of more than 1300 products will rise here in the u. S. Plus, a tragic development in the urgent rescue attempt of those trapped boys in a cave in thailand. A diver helping out with the rescue, hes died. Now the commander says that time for those young soccer players is running out. And also, even though russia has attacked the u. S. Many times and continues to, the president once again praised russias president Vladimir Putin. And theres growing concern about what the president might promise russia at their oneonone meeting. Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens brown paper packages tied up with strings these are a few of my favorite things these are a few of my favorite things i wok harmonica interrupts ld. 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Employers need workers, and theyre hiring when they can find them. The Unemployment Rate ticked up to 4 t went up a little bit, but the reason why is pretty interesting. About 600,000 people came off the sidelines and started looking for work. These are people who were not officially counted in unemployment statistics. Now theyre coming back into the labor market. Thats why the jobs number rose. Where are the jobs . Business and information services, jim. Manufacturing, almost 300,000 jobs created in the past year. Thats a bit of a renaissance there. And health care. Consistently we see health care as a job creator in this country. You know, jim, when you look at these numbers, there are more Jobs Available than there are people looking for them. I suspect youll see more people coming off the sidelines to try to get those jobs, and youll see companies hungry for workers, but theyre not paying more. You saw wages rise just 2. 7 . Thats been a real riddle, jim. Christine romans, thanks very much. Well, the biggest trade war in economic history, thats what china says the u. S. Is launching now with the imposition of some 34 billion in new tariffs on chinese goods. China quickly fired back with an equal amount of new tariffs on american goods. They include suvs, meat, agricultural products. But this may be just the beginning. President trump says another 500 billion in tariffs could be on the horizon, half a trillion dollars. Joining me now is the former commerce secretary in the obama administration. He was also u. S. Ambassador to china. From washington is cnns senior economics analyst, steven moore, former economic adviser to trump. Ambassador, if i could begin with you. You have a lot of experience directly with china. Chinas unfairness on trade, right . Making it difficult for American Companies. Do you think its fair for the Trump Administration to go after china with these tariffs . Well, obviously we have legitimate concerns about the trade and economic policies of china, longstanding complaints by businesses and the United States government. Not just the United States government but many other businesses and governments from around the world. I dont think that tariffs are an effective way to get at these underlying issues. It also sends a very mixed message. The president at times is talking about the trade deficit. Well, is it the trade deficit or is it the forced transfer of American Technology . Trade secrets that were really concerned about. Ultimately in having tariffs, were going to have a titfortat and its going to be the consumers of both countries that suffer. Steve, i know that your position has been its justified to go after china because of their misbehavior, unfairness, et cetera. Not a smart idea to go after close u. S. Allies europe, canada. I wonder, do you think trump is missing an opportunity here to build a coalition, as it were, between u. S. Allies and others against chinas trade practices here . Well, he may be missing that opportunity. You know, history teaches us you dont want to fight a three or fourfront war at the same time. If china is the adversary here, and i think china is the adversary, although id have to admit im a little intimidated because the ambassador knows a lot more about china than i do. But i dont think theyve been playing by the rules. I think theyve been cheating and stealing. I think trump believes like you said when you started the segment, china is saying this is the biggest trade war ever. I think donald trump would say, waited, weve been in a trade war for 15 years with china, and theyre winning and were losing. So something has to stop here. If its not going to be tariffs, i wonder what the ambassador thinks we could do that would force them to buy more american products, stop stealing our intellectual property, and things like that because i think most americans think that this is an untenable situation and the status quo cant go on. Ultimately what donald trump would like to see is china reduce their tariffs so we have freer trade between the two countries. Fair question from stephen moore. You make a fair point that at the end of the day, you and i are going to be paying for tariffs. Theres a lot of chinesemade stuff here. Those prices go up, were going to pay for whether its clothing, electronics, et cetera. Whats the best way to pressure china . One of the ways that we can do it is kby requiring a level playing field. For u. S. Companies and Foreign Companies to operate in china, oftentimes you have to have a chinese partner, whereas Chinese Companies operating in america dont have to have a partner. For instance, amazon. If they want to offer or microsoft want to offer Cloud Computing services in china, theyre forced by the government to have a partner. Whereas alibaba and the other tech giants of china dont have to have a partner in the United States. Many sectors of the chinese economy are off limits to any type of foreign participation, whether American Companies or french or german companies. I believe all the Foreign Countries should band together and say, china, in youre not going to allow our countries to operate freely in your country, we should put restrictions on your companies in ours. You must admit the trouble with trade wars is that you fire a shot at them, theyre going to fire a shot back. Eventually both sides are paying. Sadly, that means you and i are paying. We may be paying more for a whole host of things. Why not just band together and say, you know what, heres the deal, if youre going to make us play by those rules, were going to make you play by the same rules here . I like that idea. I think we found some Common Ground here. Maybe we should take it to donald trump. Thats a problem. That cant happen. No, i think youre exactly right. The only thing i would question is whether thats going to work with china. Theyre becoming more powerful. Theyre becoming a first world economy. Theyre challenging the United States for supremacy. This has been going on for a long time. You know, i would just wonder why this didnt happen under the obama administration. These abuses didnt just start in 2017. Theyve been going on for ten years. True. Or the bush administration. Well, thats true. Why havent we done this . Its a fair question. Were all paying for it. Ambassador, you spent a lot of time in china. It seems that part of the president s calculation here is that he will win in this game of chicken, right. Were going to impose in effect, they need us more than we need them. Well impose and eventually theyll back down. Do you have any indication when you go to china from chinese businessmen and leaders theyre going to back down . Just as President Trump is trying to appeal to his base and has to stand and look firm, the chinese leader, xi jinping, also has his constituents that he has to worry about. Theres a great sentiment of National Pride in china right now, that theyre not going to be pushed around by the United States or any other country. Of course, you know, theyve been reasserting themselves. The 2008 olympics, putting a man in space, going to the moon. All these things. So theyre really trying to reclaim their place in history. Theyre not going to back down. Obviously the president goes through with an additional possibly 500 billion of tariffs on chinese goods, thats virtually everything that comes into america from china. Thats going to raise the price of all the components that American Companies pay as they manufacture. Its going to force them to raise their prices as they sell their products. Great americanmade stuff around the world, theyre going to have to be competing against those french companies, german companies, and even Chinese Companies as they sell their products around the world. Stephen, before i let you go, whats your response to that concern . I think china is more dependent on us than we are of them. Theres no question both sides are going to lose here if this continues to escalate. But i would submit that, you know, chinas economy, which has been amazing for the last 20 years, it cant grow if it doesnt have access to american markets. By the way, youre right. 500 billion, thats about the amount that chinas that would basically be a tariff on everything they sell us. I hope it doesnt come to that. All right. Stephen moore, thanks very much. Imagine that, we had some agreement here on trade issues. Thanks very much, ambassador locke. Id like you to stay for a moment to talk about something else. The news of course today is that u. S. Secretary of state mike pompeo has now arrived in north korea once again, further discussions on nuclear negotiations, a followup on last months summit between President Donald Trump and kim jongun in singapore. Secretary pompeo says, quote, on this trip im seeking to fill in some details on those commitments and continue the momentum towards implementation of what the two leaders promised each other and the world. Back with ambassador locke. A subtle fill in some details because god knows the details were lacking in that statement that came out of singapore. How big is the challenge there now . North korea really hasnt given up anything at this point. Well, theres a huge challenge facing the United States. Obviously we want to build on the momentum of singapore in which we saw the rhetoric being lowered and thats good. Its better to talk about peace than it is to talk about war. But its going to be really difficult because the secretary knows with his days in the cia and the congress that the north koreans have always never kept their promises, have always failed to come through on their promises. And north korea is not about to completely disarm unless they know that the United States is not going to invade or take military action against them or that they want to know that the United States will ease up on all the sanctions. Theyre really afraid that if they go down the road of what Moammar Gadhafi did that, the west and the United States will later turn against north korea, and what do they have to protect them . So they see their Nuclear Arsenal as an ace card, as a negotiating element, a chip of strength. Theyre going to be reluctant to give it up. Who has the upper hand in these negotiations based on what youve seen . Weve seen reports that north koreas continuing to perfect their technology. Theyre not dismantling things. And i think theyre trying to really build up their arsenal as much as possible. They dont need to do more testing. They have that capability now. So the question is, whos going to prevail in these negotiations . The United States is saying were not going to give up on sanctions or take our foot off the pedal until you completely disarm. North korea is not going to do that. So its going to be very difficult to have this kind of staged denuclearization match by some sort of Economic Relief to north korea. Ambassador locke, thanks very much. Good to talk to you. Time running out for that Thai Soccer Team and their coach trapped in a cave as conditions deteriorate there. 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S saying we cannot afford to wait until conditions are just perfect and right for the boys to come out. Time is limited, he said today. The governor of the northern province here in thailand has just this last few minutes said that the boys wouldnt be coming out in the next 24 hours and that, you know, unless there was really, really heavy rain. That seems to be the crunch factor. If the monsoon rains do come down, and when they do, its torrential. As you say, those chambers will flood. Then theyll be left with no option. It is actually beginning to rain here now. But i think we probably wont see really heavy rain until later on in the weekend. Now, diving out is currently the best option that they have because nobodys found one of these sink holes from up above. You know, staying down below with depleted oxygen, thats not an option. They have to come out. Ill tell you, were showing video here as we talk to you that really gives the First Impression ive seen of how dangerous the conditions are. Its not just water. Its Rushing Water in the caves. I suppose we got a reminder that an experienced Thai Navy Diver died in those conditions. Of course, if youre talking about a bunch of kids who dont know how to dive, the dangers for them are much greater. Reporter yes, thats right. The man who died was a very experienced former navy s. E. A. L. Diver himself. He was a mile underground when at about 2 00 in the morning local time he seems to have had some problem with his oxygen supply. He wasnt it wasnt possible to resuscitate him. It just serves to underscore the enormity of the dangers facing the boys coming out. You know, the other problem that the boys have is that although theyve been remarkably stoic in this twoweek ordeal, nothing really will prepare them for the dangers of coming out through these jagged passageways, through often completely submerged chambers. Theyve been fitted with these fullface oxygen masks, but if they start to panic, you know, they could start to cough and choke and hyperventilate. Thats really, really dangerous. So you know, its an enormously dangerous thing to see them coming out, albeit with the assistance of these thai navy s. E. A. L. S. Goodness. Well, were praying for their safety. Jonathan miller there are if us. Thanks very much. Up next, President Trump mocking the metoo movement. Former president h. W. Bush, senator john mccain. But in the same breath praises russian president Vladimir Putin. Well have the details. Plus, why Michael Cohen says hes certain hes been dismissed by trump and does not expect a pardon. I love you, basement guest bathroom. 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Once again, denying meddling in the election. On top of this, a Bipartisan Senate committee agreed this week with the Intelligence Community that, yes, russia did attack, did interfere in the u. S. Election to benefit donald trump. Despite all this, President Trump is praising the man at the top, Vladimir Putin. Theyre going, President Trump. You know, putin is kgb, this and that. Putins fine. Hes fine. Were all fine. All fine, the president says. Well, the white house says the issue of russian meddling will at least be on the table, even though you may remember that just last week President Trump publicly expressed doubt that russia was behind the interference in the election despite republicans and democrats briefed on the intelligence and the intelligence agencies, including agencies headed by people that he appointed, all saying the opposite. Joining me now is steve hall, Cnn National Security analyst and former cia chief of operations in russia. Knows a thing or two about russia, how it operates and how its operating today. I just want to ask for the sake of folks at home, and it can be difficult because theres so much coming at them on russia and other things, why is it important that an american president while a foreign power is attacking the u. S. By cyber means and seeking to undermine the u. S. By other means, why does it matter the u. S. President is expressing doubts as its happening . Theres so much i just dont understand in terms of what this president and what this administration is trying to do. Thats certainly one of them. If you take trump at his word and he says lets make America Great again, it is america first, if you follow that out, then you would be arguing against him meeting with putin, having a summit with putin because it benefits russia, and russia is definitely an antagonistic power, disinterested in the United States. As a matter of fact, interested in undermining the United States and other western countries. As you pointed out, theyve attacked our elections. They have murdered people overseas. They are currently, you know, supporting a war in eastern ukraine. I mean, its no advantage. I have to ask, what is the advantage to the United States besides being able to walk away and say, yeah, we had a fine meeting . I dont see that as putting america first. Is Vladimir Putin cheering President Trumps comments about him and undermining of nato and denials about russian interference . Does putin welcome that . Yeah, absolutely. I think that all works very much into putins favor. Putins overarching goals here are to divide the west, to divide and distract the United States, and thereby, you know, avoiding any sort of democratic reforms inside of russia or other countries that operate as autocracies like russia does. So you know, youve got the president of the United States on his way to a meeting with putin, which he probably shouldnt be having if he wants to put america first, but on the way hes going to stop and talk to the allies and give them a good finger wagging about how they need to pay more. The derogatory statements hes made about nato coupled with the positive statements hes said about putin, i mean, it really works into putins favor. You have to ask, why is that happening . Why is he taking that approach . I dont get it. The president and his supporters claim that President Trump has been tougher on russia than anyone, and of course specifically president obama they will say. Do you see evidence of that . There have been things that this administration has done in terms of sanctions and expelling diplomats, that sort of thing. That goes in the plus column. But those are things that i think putin is willing to sort of ride out. The fact hes able to meet with the president of the United States shows putin that he can, you know, be a great power and that perhaps, just perhaps, hes getting a pass on some of the most abhorrent things that he has done recently in the international community, like take over countries that border him and all those other things that we were talking about. So you know, you can make an argument that we do need to be in contact with russia on certain topics, for example maybe counterterrorism, although thats fraught with difficulties. Or even, you know, Nuclear Treaties that are coming due. But you dont have to have a summit. You dont have to give him that win. You can have experts in your governments talk about that stuff. We dont need to be engaging russia right now, i think it the bottom line. We need to be containing them. Thats not happening. There was a group of gop senators in russia this week, and their comments were interesting and caught some attention. There was the phrasing that they asked russia not to interfere in upcoming u. S. Elections, asked. Does that show power in your view, and strength, to be asking at this point . Ive heard shelbys congressional delegation called the kremlin caucus on twitter recently. Thats really, unfortunately, not that far off. No, its not at all a strong approach. First of all, the folks they met with, a lot of them russian parliamentarian parliamentarians, gives this impression that our senators go talk to their senators. Its a rubber stamp. Putin controls that place. Nobody serves without his permission. This idea that were engaging with this autocratic government along these lines doesnt advantage the United States. I believe it disadvantages us at the expense of american interests and furthers russian interests. Steven hall, knows a thing or two about russia. Former cia chief there. Thanks very much. My pleasure, jim. 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Well, that shouldnt be so surprising given the fact that the president has not really revealed his hand as to what he thinks about the charges against mielk cohen. He talked about it initially, jim. Talking about the death of the attorneyclient privilege. It was hyperbole, and talking about the idea of the fbi and the deep state as an overall part of the witch Hunt Campaign strategic. He hasnt actually talked about him in glowing terms of salvation. It should come as no surprise as to comes to help mielk cohen. That should shock no one. It seems to shock mielk cohen. Do you believe reminding the president of the relationship, et cetera. I think he certainly is trying to have those Smoke Signals be apparent. Remember, jim, he does have a vested interest in having the protection of somebody who has the pardoning power, and, of course, new york state is very, very unique in that although normally you have only the federal pardoning power of the president of the United States, new york is a state where if you have state level charges, you can either choose between the state or the federal, and you cannot have both of them for the pardon. He could actually have it all resolved if the president were to pardon him on the federal charges, if there are ever any federal charges. We have millions much pages of documents that said, included highly sensitive material about people involved mielk cohen. That i ma mean the president of the United States, and we already know he is not the president s attorney, so it wouldnt be privileged information. So, lo and behold, mielk cohen c you have a combination of the court of Public Opinion and abroad. You have to have somebody who has the savvy to both have the criminal Court Appearances and also the court of Public Opinion. He is looking for somebody who is going to be a bulldog, and he might have just found one. Laura coats, thanks very much. Thanks, jim. Emotional scene, truly emotional scene, at bostons Logan Airport where a guatemalan mother and daughter have been separated at the u. S. Border nearly two months ago. Only cnn was there to capture this moment. That poor it is girl. The mother there filed an asylum claim and was released on bond on june 19th. She had to wait more than two weeks before seeing her daughter, but had a present waiting for her as the girl turned 8. She had her birthday while she was in one of the shelters. Still ahead, a stunning new report is suggesting that the e. P. A. Intentionally blocked a cancer study from becoming public. Plus, President Trump is taking swipes at former president gorgeo george h. W. Bush. His staff is now swinging back. 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