Transcripts For CSPAN2 Booknotes 20150523

Weather. H urls into whether sportfishing,iv all different types of fishing. But i but fatigue is often a factorbiggesfactor. And whether is the biggest factor. Bria cspan how many friends have you lost over the years from phishing . But ere guest nearly a dozen. When you hear about someone going down are being lost at sea you may not know them, but you do feel some connection. 21 years. Why do you fish . Guest im passionate about fishing and people ask me what you like about it i like the way that i feel that my nasty. Cspan where did you start . Guest at the time it was a summer job to pay my way through college. I went to Colby College in waterville maine. Cspan this book is one for you . Guest book number two. Cspan what was the number one and when did it come out . Guest hungry ocean published in 1999. Cspan about . Guest the book is structured around a 30 day fishing trip to the grand banks of newfoundland. What is your relationship with the storm movie . Guest most people recognize my name as the woman that survived the perfect storm. I was the captain of the andrea gail sister ship. Most people make the perfect storm connection very quickly. I was running that of the last six years i swordfish and because of the book people were asking how did it change your life and the event didnt change my life a great deal that the book by sebastian changed my life. I started because of a very generous portrayal of me in that book, started getting a lot of attention from the media and got attention from publishers. Cspan what year did you start writing lacks guest is typically one year so i started in 1998 and they crashed in 1999. Cspan in august or because number two on the New York Times bestsellers list. Did you ever think that would have been . Guest i was surprised and thrilled. Cspan white mac like you think that this is happening . Guest i have a theory people are interested in hearing nonfiction written by someone who has done what they are talking about because they get so many people saying they felt like they were on the boat with me and they fought like it is a very genuine story and people sign the league could seem to find it refreshing. Cspan its enormous. The number of places youve gone. Guest it was supposed to be two months taking me from 60 bookstores and now its being extended so im going to go home for a little while in september and then go back onto her for maybe a couple of weeks in october. Cspan how is the crowd . Guest ive been surprised not so much in maine. Its my home state i was anticipating support and ive got enough that i have been and pleased with the support outside of maine. Cspan white you think they are coming out at the bookstores, what are the first couple of questions they ask . Guest dot Everybody Knows the commercial fishermen. The people are generally interested in that. The first couple of questions people are interested in how did you go from college to phishing and how did you go from fishing to writing. Cspan what is the chapter about . Guest exam and airmen for a young man that showed up on the island of looking for work asking for a job. I didnt mean a stern man because my dad works for me. But this kid was persistent. You dont even have to pay me. Its been my lifelong dream to go fishing that immediately through the course of of maybe a month of having him work for me i discovered things about him that arent that good and so he fooled me which wasnt the most pleasant thing that host how did he fooled you . Guest i liked him and he was a great worker and a nice person and in the end it turned out he wasnt such a nice person to be stood up its hurtful to put confidence in someone and hired them and have them be a noshow. He was very handsome. He was in his early 20s. Cspan where did he end up . Guest he ended up stealing my vehicle i have on the mainland and disappeared for a couple of days and word got to him but i wasnt very happy and he never showed back up to work after that. Cspan where is the island . Guest is 7 miles off the mainland coast of maine. Cspan how do you get their . Guest to get to the island you have to have your own boat or travel by mail boat which has a contract with the Postal Service to bring it back and forth so its not the easiest place. Its a beautiful island. The people are great. They are quirky. We are a bit of a mod group. Cspan is there anybody named rita in actuality . Guest i used her real name. People always ask about her end of the way she got into my book. I missed two thirds of the way through and my editor called me you cant love everyone. Youre not going to have credibility. Isnt there anyone out there that you generally dislike and i said yes. And i wrote more than he cared to hear about this character. She was one of my closest neighbors for the first two years that i was back on the island and she was a major nuisance. She would come over uninvited. She would be in my house using the telephone without permission and after time and time again dont come in if we are not home it was sort of hard to deal with. Islanders are very noncontroversial. We dont like conflict. So its easier to allow somebody to. Cspan whatever happened to her . Guest she moved off the island less than a year ago and lives on the mainland. Im sure annoying somebody else now. Cspan what do people do in a situation like that when you are very close . Guest for the most part nobody says anything. Nobody wants to confront anybody. Its easier to sweep it under the rug or ignore it. But you would certainly never wants to make waves or mention it to someone. Its a small closeknit community that most everyone is aware of whats going on. Cspan the main reason that we wanted you to do this program was kind of a sub theme in the book its not prominent but its regulation and above all fishing and lobstering and a couple of things that directly affect the estate standpoint. The lobster pot itself tells how you make it up. Guest there is a size restriction and there is these escapes for the lobsters to get out of. Its all very legal. They have restrictions on what you can put in the water. Cspan who tells you the lobster has to be a certain size . Guest there are federal and mainstage regulations that im governed by the state of maine. Guest somebody wants to be a lobster fisherman how do they start . Guest its hard to start right now because there is a moratorium on the licenses. That is relatively new. Maybe the last four or five years that come into effect so you have to be an apprentice apprentice for writing gets three years and give a lot of paperwork and have marine natural people sign off on all of the days that you spent as an apprentice before you can. Cspan do you have a licensed . Guest i have a mainstage license since i was a kid and i renewed it every year i kept my lobster license so when i decided tonight was all set. Cspan what does it cost to have a mainstage lobster license . Guest the license i have is 217 for the season, so its not a great deal of money. Cspan company are there in the state of maine . Guest thousands. I wish i had the exact number. There are people that make their only living where most of their income catching lobsters. Cspan how many women are there . Guest not very many. They have their own boats boat like myself and there are more and more men and women that work in mr. The boat for a father or boyfriend or uncle. Cspan white you need a stern and . Guest you get a lot more done. You can haul a lot more. If somebody is picking the traps or taking the lobster out we put the date in. It goes a lot better and its a lot safer. Fishing alone is dangerous if something happens. I think fisherman in general are democratic by nature. Its a selfsufficient group. Its about the ultimately being selfemployed. Cspan what else is controlled . We are talking about where you catch the lobsters. What about the boat size . Guest its not controlled by the license. In other fisheries it is because the federal license for the groundfish is by the size of the boat. Some would be too expensive and somewhat be too small because you couldnt do the work. Cspan what about the size of the lobster . Guest in the state of maine we have a lobster measure that has two sides. One size measures to make sure that its big enough and the other side to make sure that its not too big so what is undersized it is undersized and oversized survey gets thrown back to the very small obviously gets thrown back. Cspan what is the size that you can keep . Guest i dont know what the exact measurement is and i wouldnt dare to say because i would be off one way or another. Cspan is plus 5 inches at the body of the lobster. Guest that is the length of the body measured from the eyesocket to glare at the end meets the tail. Cspan why does it change all the time . Guest if changes every time a lobster sheds it grows anywhere from up to half an inch. Cspan does the state changed the length of their measurement every time . Guest its been increased so they have to be better to keep which is good for conservation and further reproduction of the lobster. It keeps it healthy. There are state agencies that control all the fisheries. There isnt like a lobster person that the main marine resources. The observers go on to do studies for the state and they also are marine patrol people to make sure everyone is in compliance. Its not unusual to be boarded and make sure that you are not keeping undersized lobsters because it is illegal to do so. Cspan what would have been . Guest if it is a first offense you may get a fine. Second or third you could lose your license which would be devastating for someone trying to pay bills and raise a family. If you lose your license you are out of business. Is there a regulation on how many traps . Guest is an 800 trap limit and different zones in the state are in several. We are about 800 but there are others that have committed to a smaller. They fish finished 600 for instance have a maximum. You can only fish six days a week. Cspan why is that . Guest i think theres no fishing on sundays to keep some of the part time out of it. A sort of protect us from the people that are making all of their living. Its hard for someone to put a lot in the water if they have one day to fish which would be saturday. Cspan how many are you allowed it to catch . Guest there is no quota. Only on the number you can fish and the hours you can fish them. As many as you can get in those hours and in those days. Cspan in normal time begins when . Guest daylight would be normally when you would go to get the date of the word about and as soon as you can see the first you should be hauling. Cspan what time do you get out when you have to hit the first flight saves the early part of the summer, 4 30 in the morning, what time . Guest 4 30 shake my father out, shake my father out of bed to have some coffee. Normally we try to hold 200 today and thats not a really long day. Thats a pretty comfortable day. We start early and we are done by two or three in the afternoon. Cspan when you say hall what do you mean . Guest the traps from the bottom of the ocean getting aboard the boat to bait them and sent them back. How heavy is the traps . Guest one is around 30 pounds. They come in different sizes and configurations. We have breaks to make sure they landed right side up or down on the bottom of the ocean and some people believe anymore and some people believe in fewer. I like smaller traps because they are easier for me to handle physically. Cspan what is the largest in the state . Guest 4 feet long. Cspan what is the smallest . Guest there isnt a limit to how small that its advantageous to fish the biggest track you can because there is more room in a trap for lobsters. Cspan when did you write the last word for the buck what was the date do you remember . Guest which was this past march. Cspan march of this year. And of the season that you are writing about your you said is a rotten season. Cspan im writing about my first lobster season because the first part of the book is about going home after being gone for 17 years. Im writing about my first season. It was a slow start. It did get good but then something happened and i sort of lost interest in the season so it was terrible for me. Cspan what year was it that you are writing about . Guest it would have been 1996. Cspan how did you recall all of the stories . Guest most of it was from memory. I dont keep a diary or a journal or anything like that but when i started writing the book i have been fishing for four years so i know the basic. We have to get ready. We will not catch anything early in the season. I write it did get good at one point and so i knew the structure is going to be the lobster season which i was familiar with. Cspan when does a lobster and fish . Guest where i fish it is basically may through december 1 but the bold are caught in september october. Cspan and what happens with months . Guest basically july through october we are catching the soft shell later in the season and earlier we would be catching more softshell which are the ones that are very full of meat. Cspan what do you get paid on a normal basis for every kind of lobster that you bring, do you have a coop . Guest we have the island lobstermen association. Right now we are catching mostly shutters. The prices are down 3 a pound. Later in september the price will drop a little bit more simply because there are more lobsters being caught in a lot of the seasonal places are closing down the time of year. Cspan if you are a lobster eater in the country whats the best time to order a lobster and what is the worst time . Guest dollar per pound you are better off getting a hard shell lobster. Its more expensive because they are less abundant because of the weather and the seasons there are not as many so its more expensive but its packed into the show so youre getting more for your money. Personally i like the softshell lobster. If im eating them at home i wouldnt eat one in the restaurant because i would make a mess. I would rather eat three or four. Its sweeter they are easier to get into. Cspan the last year you can remember the statistics on how many are caught in the state of maine. Guest i couldnt even begin to tell you. Cspan i seen a figure. The two figures, one is 300 million into the lobsters were sold in the last year and 57 million. Guest i was going to say probably a Million Pounds would be great. So the 3 milliondollar figure would be 300 million. Maybe after its gone through a few middlemen but not to the fisherman. If they are getting 3 a pound of the consumer isnt getting a good break on the lobster. Somebody is making money along the way. Cspan what do they make an eightyear . Guest they make a good living but hes earning it coming is fishing yearround hauling a lot of traps and has a big investment, probably has a bigger boat probably has the biggest traps his money can buy. Anything from a really good living to parttimers to kids that go just during the summer hauling by hand a handful of traps. Brian mccarthy allowed us to halt a handful if they dont have a license . Guest they have to have a license to do so but there are recreational licenses people can get to finish tied for six traps. Cspan in the book you see a good lobstermen can make 100,000 a year . Guest that isnt unusual for some of the highlighters. I would consider that a good year. Guest in my opinion hes the best and i think he works the hardest. Cspan if you are the best what is it that you do that is not so good it makes you a success . Guest when i see him whether hes on his boat or on shore shes always working. He and his father have a fish house or shop where they work on their gear, they are there constantly. Any time of day i go by the matter the weather it is a constant job. Cspan using your dad is 71 at the time. Guest shes now 72. Cspan and your mom had cancer . Guest my mom was diagnosed with Breast Cancer just about a year ago and three days ago she had a doctors appointment and this was a good time because its the first time of year she had been declared cancer free so very good. Cspan mac why does your dad work with you as your storm in . Guest shes a retired suit and tie kind of guy and a happened quite naturally. I was looking for someone and he was very willing to go. He couldnt be happier because now he is running my boat and its worked out really well. Ive always had a great relationship with both of my parents but as a kid i liked to do the hunting and fishing and the working so its been nice to go home and reconnect with my father and work within. Cspan where were you born . Guest stamford connecticut and i lived there for three months and ive moved back with my parents were dead link ever since. Cspan where is the relationship with your family . Guest my dads family is from the island. I am fifthgeneration on the island. Cspan when did they come there on the first place and are what circumstances . Guest everyone that visits to the island it was attractive to live on the island would say the 18 hundreds that changed somewhere along the way with the advantage in the steam engines no longer selling to the fishing grounds, dont need to be as close now because we have these engines and also High School Education made it so that High School Kids have to move off the island. So what sort of depopulated between the two things between kids having to go to school, the main state regulation and gasoline and steam engines. Cspan where did you go to grade school . Guest in a really small town. Cspan there is a school on the island still . Guest its one of the remaining in the country. One of very few on the remote outposts of islands. Kindergarten through eighthgrade there eighth grade there will be six students in the school this year. And why didnt you go their . Guest my father worked at a shipping company in maine. So that was going to work and we were going off to school. Cspan did you go off to school guest it was always my dream to live off the island yearround i hated leaving the island in the fall so i had these great memories on the island. Cspan where did you go to school . Guest at a school named mount ararat. Guest what were you interested in those years . Guest i liked school. I was into sports. I was a weekend fisherman at the time. My parents were always very avid sports fisherman so i grew up in the summers trying to catch anything that is when around my home and i always like to school and enjoyed it but also. One brother and two sisters. Cspan arthur ages compared to yours . Guest brother and sister are eight years younger than i am and one older sister that is two years older than i am. Cspan where do they live . Guest we are all in maine. My brother and sister are in portland, my older sister my older sister is a housewife and my brother is a Marine Engineer but shipped out for a while and now works a landbased job and my younger sister is an executive businesswoman. Cspan and what do they think . Guest they dont want to be me that they are very proud of what ive done and my accomplishments or whatever. Im very quick to say that ive had a great number of failures but everything ive done has been hard work whether its success or failure im a real one of the physician. I cant play anything. Sometimes its a very very good and sometimes its very bad. I had a summer job to help pay my way through college and that was out of a place called the island main. A very good friend of mine in high school whose father owned a swordfish boat so i knew do a fishing. I went to school whose parents were fisherman and i knew that it was an opportunity to. So fishing was good money when i started. Cspan how regulated . Guest and a fisherman whether its commercial or recreational we are the most highly regulated managed and monitored in the world and thats not to say thats bad. Regulations are needed. Im a conservationist and i like to know that theres into the future. Its probably the oldest industry in the world wouldve me be with maybe the oldest industry in the world. The problem is regulations are so strict in what has a lot have been regulated out or forced out by the business. The litigation and conservationist groups are suing another group stepping in and getting the federal government to step in and force the laws on the fisherman. The last iran is a 100foot boat. Cspan when you were talking about how many worked on the book with you . Guest i started on a 70foot boat and there were six people. Cspan how long would you be out . Guest sword fishing trips we tried and the fishing is best from the First Quarter for the last quarter through the full moon we try to debate back and forth at the time. Cspan when you have a fishing day how long is it . Guest reset the gear at night. Leave it for a few hours, start hauling this long piece of lying line back on board the boat. Daylight is threetime to 30 in the morning so it is an early start to the day takes a lot to get this 40 miles back onto the boat. Cspan so you see worked as a cook in the summertime. What did you study . Guest i studied english and government. Cspan why did you do either one of those . Guest when youre supposed to be declaring your major i dont know what i thought at the age of 19 ipod attorney sounded good. I wanted to be a lawyer. Thats pretty close to pre law and it sounded like a good thing to do so thats when i studied. I enjoyed both of them but i knew i wouldnt be going to law school. Cspan when you told your mother you were not going to be a lawyer and you were going to be a fisherman, what did she do . Guest she wasnt very happy and i write about one in particular of my mother breaking every dish in the house she was upset i was throwing my education away after years. My parents never gave up on the law school thing. When i graduated and told them i was going fishing it was a good idea but for 17 years i sort of end were to be attention of getting a real job you are wasting your education. And i do a lot of speaking out since i got notoriety. I have an opportunity to speak to students quite often and one of the things i say is my education has never been wasted regardless of what my parents sought in the past i use every bit of my education whether ive been fishing or writing or interviewing its never wasted. You will hear people say education is a tool. Education isnt a tool. Its not like a screwdriver that its laying around to torment. You are using it all the time. Its part of you. Cspan guest she wasnt very happy. It wasnt the first occurrence. Are you like your mother or father . Guest a little bit of both i graduated in 1983. Cspan had he worked during worked during the summers every year . Guest at the age of 19 english highway through school after i graduated i started fishing yearround. Cspan 17 years on a sword fishing boat did you buy your own boat and some think . Guest i ran other peoples votes for them. Very typical. There were a lot of owner operators, there are quite a few cspan give us the range on what people can make as a sword fisherman. Guest as a person working on back you get a percentage its called a settlement in if you get a good trip a person working could make 10,000 a trip to 10,000 a month. Really good money for college kid. How many months can you do that . Guest you can swordfish year round. Some of the fleet will travel down to the caribbean in the winter months. Cspan are you regulated or do you have to have a license . Guest you need a federal license to fish and there are all kinds of regulations and closed areas where you cannot fish and size restrictions and all kinds of regulation. Cspan what can you make if you are hired . Guest generally you would make about twice as much as one of the crewmembers. But there are so many months that that could make nothing. He would make nothing. There is something we call the broker going for for a month making zero. Sometimes you are lucky to pay the expense. You can lose with 30000 thats going to be thrown away. Its gone at the end of the trip, 40,000. Cspan so whats the worst thing that happens when you are out at sea . Guest it could be a combination of bad weather and poor fishing. One of the others you can handle if it is nice. But if you couple that fishing and bad weather it is hard to stay optimistic. Cspan did you ever think you were going to lose your license . Guest i would be lying if i said ive never been frightened at sea. We fish during Hurricane Season and quite often we are a thousand miles from the dock. Less dangerous because you are not subject to the weather as much but you are far from the dock and during Hurricane Season and its dangerous. Cspan cspan would you do to prepare yourself for that . Guest its more that its 90 experience into 10 a bad feeling. Ive been on a vote a long time and i know there are certain things you do if bad weather is coming. To get a good captain a qualified experienced captain there arent many new people because of regulations and restrictions. Theres not a lot of blood rushing to. Guest cspan is there a lot about how much there is from the government . Guest it is disconcerting to be subject to all of the regulations and seemingly a lot of them are wasteful. I can give you the best example of the that regulation. I know the regulations are needed. Its a fisherman struck to catch so the conditions are certainly needed to raise restrict people because the dalia photos but they have. No matter what they set the quota there will be those that exceed the dalia quota that will be throwing overboard. That does nothing for conservation. Its very wasteful. Cspan when did you decide no more sword fishing. I want to start to be a lobster man . Guest i felt like i didnt see a way to improve. I had the nicest boat we were doing very well. Government regulations are making it increasingly hard to make a good living and i was ready to go home and ive been gone for 17 years. Late 30s, ready to go home. It seemed like a good time and still have an ability to work on the water. Cspan what happened to the family . Guest it seems that it wasnt the best way to facilitate the family plan. I say there are three single men in residence, two of them are and one of them is my cousin so ive taken a little but the flak about that. Cspan from . Guest a couple others on the island but know that they are not my cousin. Cspan how many names in here are the actual names . I know noticed you said you used synonyms. Guest i have to composite characters george and tommy and i changed one name. Cspan island boy repair was about what . Guest they came to the island and decided to stay. I call them the quintessential island suckers. They are the handy man who seemed to screw things up more than they fix. Cspan cspan rad still on the island . Guest there are people like that on every island ive learned there are people like that just where i live and they seem very familiar. Cspan tammany lived there have read your book . Guest most everyone has read it at this point. Before it was available in bookstores i was nervous how the islanders would receive my book and what they see it as an invasion of privacy. So far the reports are very positive which i couldnt feel better about. I was very nervous about it for a while and toy started getting good reports and feedback. Cspan if you get in the car at the the mainboard or how many hours does it take you to drive and then you have to take the boat over . Guest from the mainboard or it would be about a fourhour drive ended in a 40 minute boat ride. Cspan and how long can you go over . Guest this time of year there are three boats one in the morning, one made a and one today and one in the afternoon so its easy for people to come out and check it out. Half of it is a National Park so there are a lot of trails. A lot of beautiful things to see and get back on the boat and go back to the mainland. Cspan mac are there places to stay . Guest there is one, the the keepers house bed and breakfast. They are booked a year in advance. Its a beautiful place and they do a great job. Great food, beautiful surroundings. They have no trouble. Cspan and using its extensive . Guest i think its expensive. Cspan 300 a night. Guest i just came from new york and now i think maybe its not that expensive. Cspan is very large increase of people on the island of december . Guest yes we have a big Summer Community. The population is from 40 year round and 8300 in the middle of august probably the busiest time on the island. Its interesting the Summer Community theyve been coming from generation to generation. A lot of the summer people have been on the island longer than the year round people said there isnt the animosity or between the the yearround and summer people. We dont have that where i live we get along quite well. Cspan you said you lost about 12 friends. Tell us about the 1983 incident. Guest the 1991 perfect storm . Cspan now im thinking of the one where the five guest sorry about that. I know what youre talking about. Yes, i was a senior in college watching television and i heard this news flash about some young people being lost at sea. I was trying to find out what was going on. Five young people left the island to see a movie and they went to the mainland to go to a movie and on the way back the boat capsized from pcs and three of the people died in the water. Cspan did you know that . Guest i knew one of them very well. One was an acquaintance and the third i did know at all. Cspan how do you know now when you are lobster fishing whether or not you have a storm problem and do you have ways of keeping in touch with the whether . Guest every fisherman has a weather radio. You listen before you get on the boat in the morning. Also the radio leaves for communication has Weather Channel you can turn on any time of day. Its a continuous recording of weather reports. So even with the radios, the best indicator of what the weather is going to be is a boat a few miles west of you. It moves from west to east. Its not a factor where i fish. If i get up in the morning and its bad, i dont have to go. I dont have to hold traps. Im never more than 15 or 20 minutes away so if it does look like it is going to get that i can scoot in. Cspan so you get out and how long do you stay out on any given day . Guest it would be until like 4 00 in the afternoon. The nice thing about being selfemployed is anytime in the day any time in the day you feel its going to stop you can. My father and i try to halt to traps they. If things are going well and everything runs great and we dont get a line in the wheel of the propeller we can be that can be done by 4 00. Cspan how many do you have at any given time . Guest i have a license to fish and maximum but i only have 400 in the water right now. Cspan what is the biggest catch that you have had on any given day . Guest i had 15. So close to 20 pounds in one trap. Thats very unusual. Cspan how long has that happened . Guest its only happened once. In the times for me if im averaging 3 pounds per trap thats very good. Cspan that is the biggest lobster youve ever cant . Guest we throw them back. Legally we have to. A 20 pounds. 20 pounds. I spent three winters fishing offshore with a much bigger boat and a lobster sometimes are much bigger offshore. So ive caught some large lobsters. Cspan and whats the worst or do you have many that you get absolutely no lobster at all . Escalation of her habit a. I havent caught a single lobster that i do do a member of the single first time i hold traps in my career, couldnt wait to go and hunted for the end of the day we had 17 monsters. It wasnt a good day. Escalates. It starts off as something so simple as a newcomer comes to an area lobstering is very territorial, and somebody comes who is not welcome in an area and it starts with basically cutting a few of maybe his buoys off so he knows thats a warning to move his gear out of the area. If he retaliates and doesnt know who to cut and he just cuts anybody, then those people who get cut dont know who did it and they retaliate and cut anybody and before you know it everybody is cutting gear and its very expensive. Brian have you been been you there one . Linda ive not been through a very serious gear war. I have lost gear that i suspect has been cut away, and i would be lying to say i never cut anybody elses gear but its never escalated to a point of what you would consider a war. Is this the kind of thing that lobstermen dont like to admit . Linda well, its illegal so of course, nobody wants to admit to cuttinsomeone elses gear. There are a lot of people saying i lost gear and somebody cut me but you never hear somebody saying i cut that guy out of the water. Brian if you have 400 trps and 200 buoys is that right . Linda yes, thats correct. Two traps per buoy. What color on the buoy do you have and who determines what the color is . Linda each fisherman has their own colored buoy just to distinguish their own gear from somebody elses. The fisherman picks the color the buoy color, him or herself when you apply for your license with the state of maine, part of the application indication is what is it your buoy pattern, so mine is orange, yellow, and white. Brian how much of the coop or how many fishermen in your area belong to the coop you have on the island . Linda there are about a dozen who are fulltime lobster fishermen who belong to the coop. Brian how much of what they do is controlled by the state law . Linda as far as fishing . Brian yeah, just the way they operate. I know you say that i mean, the way the coop works the bonus that you get is usually it comes out around tax time or after tax time. Tell us about the bonus and how that works. Linda right. Well, the bonus that we get is a result of pounding lobsters or when we catch lobsters in september and the price is very low, we have a real natural pound, its called. Its a salt water area where you can put lobsters to store while the price is low and then take them back out in the winter, lets say february or march when the police is back up high and when the price is back up high and the extra money or profit is divvied up among fishermen as the bonus. And at a given time in i normal year, how big a bonus is it . Linda anywhere, since ive been back to the island, weve had anywhere from a 50cent per pound bonus to a 75cent per pound bonus and its a bonus not on what you put into the lobster pound yourself but its a bonus on what you have sold to the coop all season. So if you catch 10000 pounds for the season your paid on your youre paid on your 10,000 pounds. Brian when does that check usually come to you . Linda right in april at tax time so its a good time to be getting some money because most fishermen have been all winter making nothing. You have uncle sam to deal with, and its a time of year when you need to spend some money to revamp your gear. You know, you need to buy paint for the boat and buoys and maybe some new traps and new line and other things that you need to for the new season. Brian in your book you say i have been caused all my life of keeping too much inside accused all my life of keeping too much inside. I thought you spent a lot of time talking about yourself in these books. Has th been hard . Linda yeah it was such a difficult book to write because it was so personal. Really difficult to write about yourself and difficult to write about relationships with family and community and so difficult to articulate this very deep and profound love of place. It was a real tough book to write. Brian what about this about yourself . You tell us in there you want to be married, you want to have children. Linda right, i do and people are sometimes a little surprised. I cant believe youre so candid about your personal life and your desires to get married and have children. I think, you know, its not something im ashamed of. Im not you know, ashamed to say, yeah you know, id like to have a very traditional family. So how are you going to do this if youre on the island all the time dont have much choice there. Has it helped being on the book tour . Linda well, book tour has been interesting because, you know, i get a few cards from people or generally if i go into a bookstore to do a signing one of the women who works in the store will say i have a guy to introduce you to but its not really you dont really get a chance to meet anybody on book tour for more than five minutes because youre here and then gone to the next place so thats not the best way to meet somebody, i dont think. Brian so whats next after this book . Is your life going to change again, two successful bestselling books . Linda ive signed a contract to write a third book so i know what my immediate future will be. Brian whats that . Linda when im done with my book tour im going home to finish the lobster season and when thats over, im going to start writing a third book. I would like to write a novel. Brian about . Linda well, i dont have a plot but whatever i write all i know about is fishing and boats and islands, so i have a setting and thats about it. Brian why a novel . Linda i am so sick of writing in the first person. I am so sick of linda greenlaw. I think it might be refreshing to not have to really feel compelled to stick to the truth and wondering how people are going to feel about when youre saying about them. I think it might be a relief to maybe let my imagination play a bigger role in my writing. Brian how did it work after your first book came out and by the way, can folks still buy it, is it still in stores . Linda yes yes it is. Its available in paperback. Brian and its called . Linda the hungry ocean. Brian and then how did the second book come about . How did it work with your act how did it work with the book publisher . Linda because the first book did well, i was approached by the same publisher hyperion to write a second book and i said yeah, id like to write a novel and they said, no we would like for you to write another nonfiction. So they gave me a twobook deal which was the lobster chronicles first and the third book hopefully to be something of my choice. Brian this is private but are you going to make a lot of money off this book . Linda well, you know, my pipe dream is to make enough money through my books so that i can fish just because i want to and not because i have to pay bills. Certainly the books have been successful. I hope to make a lot of money with them. Thats brian how many of these are out there in circulation right now, your books . Linda well, i think the last report i heard was that we were up to 185000 in print. How many are circulating, i dont know. Brian and the timetable on your next book when do you have to have that done . Linda well, i started this tour in new york one nothing and i signed a contract to extend my deadline so apparently identify already ive already missed a deadline. Havent even written one word yet. I would like to think i could get a major portion of that done this winter. Brian how did you write it . Where did you write it . Linda i like write long handed in notebook and make all my corrections on the paper. You know, arrows and things crossed out and pages stuck in and when i get a section or a chapter to a point where i think im not going to be able to make it any better i take the time to type it in to the computer. Im very slow typing. Thats the last edit that i do of something before i send it to my editor. Send it to the he had tornado and within two or three days i get a call saying this is good thats not. More of this less of that. Keep going dont go back and rewrite, just keep going and i basically got through both of my books with that process. Brian so where did you write it . Linda i wrote the lobster chronicles, i wrote most of it on isle au haut. I wrote a little bit in portland, maine, had an apartment in portland for a little while and wrote there. Brian by the way youre saying isle au haut and for those who have never seen it its isle au haut. Linda thats right. Brian how do you get from what looks like anything like isle au haut to isle au haut . Linda it means island of height, french. Its the first island that you see from offshore because it is so high. Many people pronounce it isle au haut and ive heard so many different pronounces. Pronunciations. The year round population says isle au haut. Brian wts it like year around living on an island . If. S i like it but its not for everyone. Its a tough existence. You need to be selfsufficient selfreliant. You need to not have a problem spending a lot of time alone. Brian and do you have any time ever being alone . Linda i enjoy my time alone. I also learn through trying to write on the island my first winter thinking, oh, this will be great, no distraction. Just write write write. Ill get this whole book done. I have learned you need communication with people, or i do anyway. Brian when you live on the island, what about simple thing like newspapers . Do you get any, do you watch television . Can you hear radio from where you are . Linda we can hear radio. We have no local newspaper. Theres no Newspaper Delivery service to the island. Some people now have satellite dishes so they theyre able to see television, you know, whenever they want and see whatever they want. Most people have computers and there are phone lines so you can have internet access. I think the things that are tough we have the technological advances. Things that are tough, there are no Service People on the island so if you need a plumber or electrician youre on your own or try to get one from the mainland to come out. Its tough. Brian so your boat is how long again . How big is it . Linda my lobster boat is 35 feet long. Brian the name . Linda duffy x duffy is the manufacturer of the boat and the name of the boat is the matty bell named after my grandmother. Brian your grandmother on what side and what was her full anymore . Linda my dads mother who is mattie bell robinson. And there is a robinson name on the island, isnt there somewhere . Linda yes, there is. A robinsons point, which is where the lighthouse is. Brian so when you go out fishing, do you have a cell phone now . Linda i do not. Im a dinosaur. Im probably one of the only people on the planet who does not have a cell phone but i have a v. H. F. Radio. Brian can you talk to your mother whatever ifrl i can. I have a hand held v. H. F. At home that if my mom needs to get in touch with my dad or i she can call us on the radio. Brian how long do you think your father will continue being your sternman . Linda i hope a long time. Hes 72 now but hes in great shape. Loves working every day. He can work me under the table so im sure hell be going strong for some time. Brian when deretire from his other job at Bath Iron Works . Linda at the age of 65 normal retirement job. Brian the book is the lobster chronicles. Our guest is linda greenlaw, and the book looks like this. This picture on the cover was taken where . Linda that was taken aboard my boat, right in front of the lighthouse fishing off isle au haut. Subjected to an unreasonable search through the use of a general warrant issued by the administration of king george the 3rd. Wilkes fought back against that in court eventually winning his freedom. The charges were dropped in response to something called the northward number 45 and it 45 and it was on that basis they arrested and searched and for anything that might serve as evidenced in his alleged crime. But because john wilkes became such a folk hero across britain the number 45 became synonymous with john wilkes and the cause of freedom. This in turn, led to some of the language we now have in the 4th amendment requiring that the government get a search warrant when it wants to search and that the state get provisions with particularity. Stating particularity. Stating what is going after with a sufficient degree of particularity. And you are you today under the Obama Administration certainly not starting with president obama the nsa violates the right to privacy. Yes. Right now the nsa collects cell phone data regarding your cell phone usage. It no space you have cold who has called you when the call was made and how long it lasted. I no that i no that for today, yesterday, the day before, and every day going back five years. From that they can discern an enormous amount of information. Graduate researchers using their own miles have concluded using data like that they can figure out your political affiliation. The religious views your Health Conditions and an enormous amount of information. Yet all of this data is collected through the use of something that can at least be analogized to a general warrant. That is not right. Makes the American People understandably and justifiably uncomfortable. You can watch this and other programs online. And it is more real the weekend on book tv. Three full days of nonfiction authors and books