Transcripts For CSPAN2 Panelists Discuss Future Of HBCUs 20170527

I want to say hello to those who are watching this through the lifestream and through cspan2. This is a great day to have a great conversation about Higher Education and particularly the role of historically black universities and colleges. In 1997 i worked with an educational project. A number of you know the dr. Is that public hbc you. Some of you know his private hbc. He spent time in washington, d. C. As a kennedy appointee to the peace corps. Number of you know him through his work as a pastor. In 1997 we had an opportunity to sit in the lovely room. With a donor who owns a very large and very Famous Family foundation. The head of that walked into the room. And she said, can ask a questi question . Is there a need for blackblack colleges today and doctor proctor leaned back in his seat and he said maam, if you make can i restructure the question. The question is not, whether there is a need for hbcus today, the question is, where would america be today without them. And so she nodded and doctor proctor return the not in the conversation began. Made an impact on me. I was in my late 20s. Number one, it showed that 142 years after the conclusion ofea the civil war the question about black Higher Education, hbcus and black people in the American Social order was still on the table for conversation. Number two, the conversation was about hbcus but also about the importance of american higher it education and its imprint not just mystically but imm foreignpolicy in a foreign government, fastforward to may 2017, for having a conversation about hbcus and the road ahead. Rt of th why is that important . For over 150 years they have been an important part of the american Higher Education landscape. Like many others have challenges in the regulatory scheme as well as the School Finance and others. Because hbcus educate more students were firstgeneration maybe who are lowincome, students of color but frankly all students for different races backgrounds and creeds, theres a unique role they play ineep tt education and lawmakers in philanthropy should keep that in mind. We have seen great things the large number of people who go on to phds particularly in the sciences theres a number of challenges as well. We had the closure of st. Paul college in virginia. We have a number of schools on the part of bankruptcy in a number of students are leaving college with debt. Nversati today we have four people were wellversed in thisose who conversation. For those watching via lifestream or cspan the is future state of hbc you. Often times out read a question i receive on my phone. Number two, were going to have four speakers they will come up one at a time. They will provide overview remarks for ten minutes. At the conclusion we will make our way here for a dialogue. Well talk for about 25 minutes and then open up for audience q a. Elevator first speaker doctor michael who is president of the United Negro College fund. He represents 37 private hbcus not only does he know this issue but is also a graduate of Morehouse College and since hes ready to get here i will steal his thunder. [applause] thank you. I want to thank you for yourforr leadership in bringing this very important conversation to the American Enterprise institute. I live in the neighborhood so im also going to welcome you. I watch this renovation occur and wondered when they were going to invite me inside. I think we often do talk about hbcus and its important not to take this occasion to talk aboun the road ahead. To talk about the future and innovation and change. To recog we recognize the importance of institutional change through our advocacy and work to build institutional capacity. We understand Higher Education is at a crossroads where they need to be to reorient the to Business Model to be more student ready. They been providing scholarships for students for 75 years. We ward about 100 million in scholarships annually to over 10000 students. We have assisted nearly half a Million Students and help them earn college degrees. We have witnessed a significant shift in student demographic and petitions. Today students are radically different from those of yesteryear. Today students grope with the world at their fingertips in 140 characters or less, Technology Connects this generation in a way i could not have imaginedge back in the dark ages of my youth. Technology is moving at a pace significantly faster than Higher Education. A faster pace than Higher Education require most institutions not just hbcus togi reimagine what it means to effectively teach and learn very importantly prepare students for careers in the 21st century workforce Education Matters mort than ever before. By 2025, 65 of all new jobs will require postsecondary training. Within the Fastest Growing field, stem and healthcare, 92 and 95 respectively of all new jobs will require postsecondary training credentials. Today, the pipeline of graduates to fill these jobs across all demographics is insufficient. For africanamerican students, these concerns are more acute than their significantlyd underrepresented in the major such as Computer Science and engineering. There is still a penalty for being black. This is my visual. This is why we im trying to be energetic are excited with the longterm supporter. We are law working with the longterm supporter, the Lilly Endowment inc. Of indianapolis indiana. To assist 23 historically black colleges and university and will predominantly as asic to ensure our institutions are graduating students ready to survive and thrive in the 21st century workplace. Were doing that with a 50 milliondollar grant from lily. An investment and forward thinking and innovation. Other institutions are pursuing a threepronged approach to improving outcomes for theirpr respective institutions. If you are more detail go to our website but the first thing where doing this trying to change that fouryear, five or six Year Experience which will more before your experience for being more opaque for the student to being transparent. Will be at all over the opportunity landscape to be a more narrowly focused. We call that creating intentional guided pathways for students. In order to create those pathways were going to have to take on some of the sacred cows on institutional campus. And gerard noted, former faculty member as well. The hardest thing to do is change curriculum. For students were spending a lot of money to get an education and all too often not finding Employment Outcomes at the end of the rainbow, we can keep doing what were doing. It has to begin by building foundations. To reimagine content and delivery to ensure what we are teaching in the classroom is applicable outside the classroom. That at least two not just a degree but meaningful employment and careers. We are increasing expectations which are students have the necessary experiential opportunities as well. Through integrated Co Curricular engagement. Internships are not nice to have, internships are essential. Employees are looking earlier more often and more carefully at talent. They want to see how the talent translate what i learned in the classroom to what i learned in the workplace. We see that in the technology but they are leaders in this. While the primary outcome ofmart this work is gainful employment for graduates, we also seek to improve outcomes around the way. Focusing on improving retention rates Graduation Rates very important, time to degree. Six six years is too long intoe expensive. The shorter we can make it the more efficient and the better for students. Some institutions are developing stackable credentials. Whereby have students need to step up before completion of their bachelor degree they will at least have a credential that will give them a leg up on the labor market and they can be employed meaningfully. So many people are going in and out of Higher Education and not going immediately to a degree attainment. The success of this initiative is not just determined by the outcomes of the 55000 students the cpi survey annually, for you and cf success it means we document what we are learning ensure that information to ensure other education institutions can learn from the innovative models that we set forth by her cohort institutions. To do this you and cf partners with institutions by providing them with Technical Assistance to improve the capacity to execute the work by documenting what were learning thoroughly to outcomes we seek. The work these institutions are endeavoring to do now will be critical to the success of the future. I look for to discussing the details with you. M as we think about this, the investment these young people are making a not so young people are making in their education in terms of time and costs are significant. T. An today the outcome dont always warrant the investment. Africanamerican, unemployment for college black College Graduates is double that of their peers. Underemployment set a staggering 50 . We have to keep faith with the expectation of the students. By delivering to them not just the transformational elements of a liberal Arts Education but also the real and practical returns of career and employment. I look for to discussing this innovative work that were doing with you this morning. Thank you. [applause]. Our next guest is for equal opportunity for Higher Education the first female president and in her role has a unique opportunity with those predominantly black institutions. Even end of the gold profession of the naacp to being serving as the appeals administrative judge. [applause] thanks to a the i and all of the of colleagues itc representatives from the white house. So those you are in the white house and the director of communications than with a committee of the mind and it has something to do with the fact we are here today and now it is predominantly black institutions. And then to do enhance the infrastructure and to suppress the individual goals is my privilege with the outside of pro bowl Pro Bono Council where hbcu and also historically publicly white colleges is we represent this community before congress and in state legislatures and it is my humble privilege to move this community for word in for us to move the of a Community Forward to take full of vintage that michael pointed out and those that are on the horizon to live that community for were the first thing we have to do is change the narrative so as to define that we do not accept the designation to educate will income firstgeneration students. And buying mission for the progeny of the american slaves buddies institutions are richly diverse that our research intensive 42 percent of africanamericans together advanced degrees. We have for medical schools and dental schools and Public Health schools so the first step has the innovators that they are cry was at a meeting on saturday the someone reference day book small change with the involvement of the hbcu and as long as we define ourselves as underfunded and feeling they will not invest in us but the narrative is the reality suggest to do the outstanding job with excellence and diversity with leadership that the hall of the Multinational Corporation across the gamut so with the short term that is important if people think we, heinz is in hand to say we want to come to talk about how we can help you climb delighted to talk about how we can help you because if we need to the infrastructure of america you cannot do that to have an excellent and Diverse Workforce to have the principal corer in cannot do that without hbcu because they have 50 percent so the dialogue goes on this is time to tell the narrative of the returns on investment. So a the hbcu that is central to have new classrooms and laboratories whether or not they need to be reviewed because it is a suspect category from the hbcu those who are listening theyre not racebased. We have hbcu on average 30 student diverse. And those that are which predominant. Into educating those black students would open to all in doing a better job and without the racial based ethnicity. In then to sustain them. And with those of administrative bodies. In with that Capital Financing program that is still cost hbcu to get into the market and it costs hbcu more to sell the bond as long as the disparity continues that is a need for the Capital Finance program. And other data point so with those specific programs is that the endowment of hbcu is the same as the historically white colleges and universities fed is commensurate with the help let. The output to. To note that it is higher than in others so with that background so we want to share with you hbcu the Endowment Fund and also to get the africanamerican extended family. Live with that social Marketing Campaign and through those faith based organizations and from indicators anybody who has dollars to i understand moving america for word for blanton of 1 percent of the net income 1. 3 trillion expandable in come. If we invest just onetenth of 1 we could realize the goal of a 1 billion in doubted fund to invest in these tremendous institutions and that is not commensurate returning on investment and then to move them forward i will talk to about the things were doing at the federal level with the state legislators thank you for the opportunity. [applause] i mentioned in the introduction part of her career in the Legal Profession so i hear a clap on the side there is another person in the room. Johnny taylor has done a tremendous job to expand the conversation to expand hbcu read the about private republic to have 47 member institutions and to spend time in the private sector. Live those headed say paramounts studio so he brings this conversation to major Public Institutions and now we give it to johnnie taylor. [applause] the downside they knew we were going to say. So thank you michael and leslie. [laughter] and then to say i barely missed the millennial era. The issue is a that was cruel you dont say that. Good morning. So this is like an accident waiting to happen. So it is so good to be back here at 80 i. The head of the American Enterprise institute we were at the session you were here in several of you were in the room as they began talking about the transition of what we should think about not just the hbcu committee but africanamericans. So i am glad to be here so thinking about what i would say in nine minutes. So that we can consider sending our children to one of these institutions. They wont be around if we are the initial work and rose just 8 percent of africanamericans. 8 so that means 92 percent of us sending to maturity is a tischs so ask yourself as much an issue like mcdonalds live are you that burger king . So if you dont look at it that way the me struggle pro one of the tube business sectors would attack the industry is really explored with that would look like. I remember credit cardsca cover around. R came and now they will wake up . So the entire sector nd was disrupted. Must look at the future and figure out what hbcus. We all love hbcus. I dont have to answer the question is hbcus relevant . The better question is will they exist. You can be relevant but dmaut not been business. It is more than the dollars and cents. You need to look at recruiting i remember when someone graduated at 20 you were impressed and now people are graduating at 18. They are coming in with two years because of dual enrollment. The whole model has changed and we have to get with it if we genuinely care about the hbcus. At the end of the board meeting, we polled the board and said what are we going to do . We see we are part of an shrinking sector. There are fewer this year than last year and the year before. The trend is not our friend. The question was how do we, Thurgod Marshall college fund, play in this space and i can tell you we went way far. We said maybe we just represent black students. Doesnt matter where they are going to school. If i am trying to grow my business and consumers maybe i am not limited to hbcus. Maybe we need to find the students. The question is do we represent the institutions or the students . Fair question. That diverse board said hbcus need us. They are important. If we abandoned it it will give others the license to abandon the support for institutions. We will dig in, support hbcus, look at them and be appropriately critically constructively so because that is how we will ensure the hbcus are here for our children. I have to give some shout outs. We came out with a strategy and one is we have to figure out what industry wants. Industry wants diverse and they want black folks. There is a supply and demand issue and the bigger problem is in supply because coming from industry we wanted black folks. There is a supply challenge and we have to sort that. We, as you all likely heard several years from now, three years ago, apple gave us 47 million to solve that. They said you cannot talk about needing diversity in silicone valley unless you can do something about it. We have designed a plan. The initial design was that we would give them 20 engineers on the apple engineer team. This is not an apple retail store. I am talking about products, people. Literally rocket scientists here. They wanted us to find them and they said you will be lucky if you get 20. The first year, 33. This year up to 45. The talent is there but you have to show it. You cant just talk about it. You have to got to show them. We are doing that thanks to their generosity. And charles pope. I know those folks are break but he sat down and said because we have a supply problem it is not enough to just invest in hbcus but we have to figure out what is happening in the communities. What are the barriers that if we remove them would ensure we have a sufficient supply of people going into the this channel. We have to go back and look at k12 reform, criminal justice reform, entrepreneurship. We have to look at those three areas. Because of his 26 million, and his generosity, we are working on figure out what those obstacles are. If those are removed we can ensure hbcus have a vibrant, healthy and prepared pipeline of students. No matter what you want to say the reality is if we are forced to bring in kids who are reading on a 4th or 5th grade reading level we will not graduate them in a few years. It will take you six, seven or eight years. In a larger spear people are saying graduate more repaired in a shorter period of time the only way we can do this is ensuring we remove the obstacles and that the k12 Program Brings us a better prepared student so we can really shine as institutions. Thank you. I look forward to the questions. [applause] we will now hear from Beverly Hogan the president of the skeej in mississippi. She has been the president since 2002. And an alumni. She brings to her president position experience as a former professor, also a graduate of jackson state, but also worked in State Government. So she has an opportunity to see the role between State Government and institutions. At the end of the day, president s are responsible for managing multimillion, sometime billion dollar institutions and they have to do so smartly and she has for several years. I want to bring president hogan to the lectrine and lets welcome her. Good morning. Thank you all for this very dynamic discussion. I was very careful walking up here. But i thought if i stumble i could get mow endowment where i want it to be. I want to add thanks to ai dfor hosting this kind of discussion and dialogue. I want to ever appreciation the voices of the national leaders, spokesperson for the historically black colleges throughout the nation. You have communicated quite well the states of hbcus. It is a both exciting and challenging time to lead historically black college. If we get stuck in todays activities we lose sight of what we are working to actually affectuate. That is how i approach the position i have with a lot of inspiration coming from students, a lot of enthusiasm and what this means not only to my community, state, the nation, and globalization around the world. I want to talk a little bit about Tougaloo College. It is an independent historacally black college in jackson mississippi foundeded in 1869 by what now known as the chufrn of the which i say. We have education, humanities, social science and two graduate degree programs in education and a master of arts in teaching and master of arts in child development. We provide our students with the academic, social and professional tools they need for leadership and service in a changing economy. It is our charge, our responsibility, our challenge to prepare our students to be productive in their time. I often tell them i received a top quality education at the college and yes, i did graduate some time ago, proudly. And whereas some of that education is still organic and fluid, our students today looking for something a little bit different. We must be willing and flexible to revisit our missions, to revisit our vision, to determine if it is appropriate or not only the interest of our students, but the emerging needs of our society and businesses that they will be entering. Over 60 of our graduates go on to graduate in professional schools immediately following graduation. They are prepared and inspired by a qualified, competent and committed faculty. They are able to graduate a lot more timely than some hbcus. Still it is a challenge. We serve 85 pel eligible students and our Graduation Rates stay above 50 because most of our students come needing to work to also finance their education. The need for scholarships and Financial Assistance to help them move through schools at a timely rate is something they all share. She can testify as one of our outstanding graduates. It is a Small College just under 1,000 students but the impact has been tremendous. In the state of mississippi alone, leslie or someone else mentioned this. Jarod did. About the number of us graduates who go on into the medical and science field. But in the state of mississippi alone, 40 of the africanamerican health care professionals; doctors whether they are dentists, hospital administrat administrators, nurses, any other professionals graduated alone with 35 of educators whether they are Classroom Teachers or principals or College President s and 35 of the attorneys. So it is impactful and we have our graduates spread throughout the 98. Small college with a large impact. Our living and learning environment. I point this out because our students come today wanting different things. They come with seven more devices and they want you to have the infrastructure to accommodate all of them. Doesnt matter how it gets paid. They just want it there. Our living and learning environment provides access to the latest technologies, to facilitate work and learning as well as keep pace with the rapidly changing high tech global society. You cannot serve students today without the appropriate technolo technology. In most open spaces, we sit on 500 acres. 100 acres designated for college expansion. We have access to wireless technology. When they go out there, they want that technology to work. We have a unified Campus Security system that offers coverage to every building and almost most open areas. Students want safety and feel they are safe on campus and we have to be very much aware of that. And in this 21st century, Tougaloo College teaches students to become thoughtful, ethical leaders. We want them to inform the future with vision and justice and charity contribute to a more inclusive, fair and humane world for all humankind because the world is changing. We still instill that in our students and combining the strengths of our academic offerings, Tougaloo College considers its legacy of excellence relevance. Our students leave seeing they are entering the world and they can accomplish their aspirational goals whether they want to be a scientist, doctor, lawyer or architect. We want them to have the skills and the knowledge and underi understanding of what it peens to go out there and do that. We want relevance. We have a Traditional Institution in the sense we have historic significance that run deeply in our educational strings going back to our founding and role in the civil rights movement. All that is for null if it isnt relevant today. We have to as institutional leaders know if our past ever become graeater than our vision for the future we will become depend dispensable. We have to look at our curriculum being relevant to the students. Professional certificates that students need to pair that with a good quality liberal Arts Education. We want to know our influence which is evident through the graduates once they leave the institutions. I will often say the true success of any institution is really not measured by how smart our students are when they come to us or how they do when they leave us but the true measure is determined by the quality of their contributions to the larger world once they leave our institutions and we have to stay focused on that. Students today want unique and relevant curriculum, they want diversity and technology. Many of our small hbcus and we are not any different we dont necessarily have the diversity of students on campus when we need it but that doesnt mean we cannot achieve it. Collaboration. Tougaloo college has a 53year partnership with brown university. Not only Faculty Exchange or Student Exchange but joint research. Faculty come and teach at tougalieu and our faculty goes there. But our students can go there and Exchange Programs with majority institutions. We have even in the state of mississippi we have a summer science and engineer programming with Mississippi State university. We just started the three plus three program. Tougaloo for three years and then Mississippi State for three years. Engineering programs. Bringing diversity in and sending students out so their world view can be enlarged. We dont want to send them out in a world of broad diversity and they are not exposed to it where they have. We need to have that student relationship. Recently, dr. Lomax talked about this. We are talking about redesigning our general education curriculum and looking at the ways and opportunities we can transform our learning environment and bring it more into 21st century learning experiences for our students. With the help of the lily endowment program, we formed a con sort with two other hbcus. Talledega and oak wood. These three institutions came together and put together a folk on how we would look at the guided pathways, curriculum reform and how we would connect with Career Services. At Tougaloo College we focused on collaborating to redesign, and Career Services to better align them for our students so they can have targeted focus whether they are majoring in history or biology. What do you plan to do with this. They began to help someone along the guided pathway. One of the most exciting things we did was establishing this portal called connections. It provide sas an opportunity t bring together many opponents through data driven, outcome based, streamlined, uniform system and close the gap in the number of trained, qualified and available workers in global and local communities. Using this digital repository called connections we will connect students to Network Partners who are corporate partners, agency heads, foundations and even other alum alumni of all three institutions. Our students can be more engaged in internship opportunities and work appearance and mentorship to gain kills, prepare knowledge, with skills they are developing in the workforce. I think this is going to be a powerful tool for all three institutions have to access to. We are able to track our students. Not only their progress but track our students as they go through regular school and the workforce. I realize the time is waning. It is hard to tell every in ten minutes. But let me briefly saying aligning more closely with students and labor market demands our institutions will be able to answer what is the return on the investment . Is a College Education worth the cost . And will students leave our institutions with the ability to earn more money than the student debt loans. As we talk more about this, let me caution all of us to be mindful that our institutions provide leadership and service for america. As the demographics shift, lets resist the urge to modernize universities to the technical traditional jobs. It is very important we tell industry we need our students in leadership roles and internships that would lead to that because with the growth and minority population over the next 2530 years, if all of our minority students, because they are considered low income and under prepared are going into the traditional technical professional jobs, then we will have a drop in our nation that will undermine the democracies. We will be a majority with minority control and power and influence. I am on my way to germany on sunday morning to meet and look at the german Space Companies in mississippi so we will be able to pair what they need with what Tougaloo College and others like ours can bring to the table so they can be a true partnership. I will be happy to talk more about this when we meet. Thank you so much. [applause] you have an opportunity to hear great information about hbcus in particular and really the state of Higher Education in the united states. We have heard about investments, immigration, the need for change, and we talked about our students. The first question is for anyone on the panel. What are we doing for faculty and our schools . My wife is a professor so i live knowing the importance of faculty and what it means to schools. I will start with that and we can work our way down. You know, i think critical to the work we are doing with Career Pathways is to engage faculty. And you know, they are the two elements that are most essential to an institution of Higher Education that is outstanding but are faculty so often and i think faculalties across the Higher Education dont get the opportunities for enrichment, challenge, new experiences and new learning. So one of the elements and we will rely on the faculties to transform our curriculum is to give them enrichment. We are investing in faculty giving them externships and sending them into the marketplace and into companies. We are seeing that really in the area of technology in particular where we will be sending faculty into google and other places. But also, bringing those folks on to our campuses not just as recruiters but as faculty as well. What they learn today they will have to have the skills and capabilities to continue to learn and upgrade if they are going to meet the demands of the mark place. I agree. You have to engage faculty on the front hand. We know curriculum is the domain of faculty and faculty must be engaged at the very point of talking about redesigning the curriculum so you get the buyin on the front end. But also with research, teaching and service all a part of our mission we have to make sure those faculty members that are involved in curriculum reform and how they use research to inform classroom teaching have release time so they are not overly burdens with all the responsibilities of teaching, doing the research, serving on committees, advising students. We have to be flexible. One thing i learned working with my faculty is they want to feel val valued and respected and want a voice of what is happening on campus. Then there is the faculty develop. We have a Faculty Development where we are offering continuous dialogue and discussions and training for faculty. We also like many other hbcus, particularly in the uncf n network, we have a partnership with New York University and we sent faculty to train there. But faculty and students are really the core of our educational institutions. Without faculty and students there is no need for a president or any of the rest of us. That is what we have to focus on every day. How do we keep them engaged, how do we keep them refreshed . Thou do we keep the ideas phl flowing . If they are in there on the front end, working and getting ideas and helping them to guide the process. Our general education and reform was guided and driven by inf th faculty on helping develop the skills the students need today and they feel good about the product they produced. There is no question we have got to all invest in faculty. In every picture we make now, it is not just the Student Perspective that we go and ask for money but we ask for a faculty investment. You cant get one without the other. A scholarship is a transaction. I dont really remember a long time ago who put me through school. I just know i didnt come out with a lot of debt. We need two other things. We want you to meet with folks and they have to tell us. You can be a great professor but if you are teaching the wrong thing and not wrong but it is not relevant, lets put it that way. I will tell you and i will say the names of the people in the schools and everything but you know, we represent the public. Publically supported because we represent howard and tuskegee. We had a graduate who we placed her, not enough to graduate and got a good job, and she came to us in tears. She said i am working the Technology Department of a nontechnology company. So this is silicone valley and she said i have a 4. 0 but i am so behind all of my fellow colleagues. We worked on 1994 platforms and these people are working on 2004. This young woman had to start her job and go to Community College in the local market at night to get up to speed. She loved her professors and her professors loved her but they were just not giving her the most update skills. She finished 40,000 in student loan debt, however. That is the reality. We make the case it is not just apple in the technology space. We are getting ready to announce a new partnership that is agrobusiness at the end of the day. You need to work with our faculty to ensure they are preparing and equipping the students with the skills they need. It is called the center for advancing opportunity. It is not a think tank. We will talk about brown vs board of education and whether or not the promises were fulf l fulfilled. Of that overall grant, about three quarters of it is going directly to faculty. I align with everything my colleague said and highlight a couple things being done relative to faculty. We have programs for student internships with about 14 federal agencies. But we also have faculty fellowships where we put faculty mostly in Scientific Labs that are available to them. Some of them leave for a year. We get their spot funded because most of the host institutions cannot afford to have them leave so we get the funding for someone to sit in their spot for a year for them to go to strong Scientific Lab and then to return there is a no poaching requirement. We do that. We also are working with the state hire ed executive officers. You may recall about a hundred of the nations post competitive colleges and universities have a problem with diverse students feeling a lack of warm and welcoming environment. They offered the entire breadth and scope of the historically black colleges and universities in partnership relationships. We have been in discussions about Student Exchanges but Faculty Exchanges so that we can get the benefit of diverse faculty from other camps and they can get the benefit of ours. We are working with congress man danny davis and a group of persons on Global Research and Industrial Park that will place our faculty along with the best faculty from around the globe in a Central Place where they can do shared research, copatent and some other things. The last thing that tom mentioned in the interest of time is a new partnership that we have with the business roundtab roundtable. Business roundtable has 144 heads of the fortune 500 companies. They do a number of things to main tine diversity. They have a number of Student Center projects and we are expanding that in efforts to achieve diversity. We all hear the headlines. University of Missouri State schools and we want them to increase diversity. Where do you think they are coming from . We are in many ways cannibalizing. We have this real challenge. We give them the opportunity. They get the degree and go off and work in the majority institutions. One of our Biggest Challenges is recruiting our students out of graduate schools, getting them to stay, these schools give them a ton of money, resources, labs, assistance and all that time off. They are not teaching eight classes a year. They have much smaller teaching loads and that is a challenge for us. It is easy to stay you want the best faculty but it is far more difficult to keep the best faculty. Let me shift to a question about tradition and relevancy. I graduated from howard in 1991. My wife and i have three daughters. Our oldest daughter graduated from howard in 2016. I say we kept the tradition and a number of friends say that is great but we are sending our daughter or son to another school. Question of relevancey, question of tradition relevan how doe that play out . The notion that as more africanamericans attend majority institutions that is taking away from hbcus. The fact is there are more africanamericans, more people of color, pursuing postsecondary degrees than every before. There are going to be even more students of color who will graduate High School College ready with expectations that an advance, you know, postsecondary degree is their goal in life, if not beyond that. I think we see a growing opportunity. There are only 104 historically black college. They have some capacity but not the capacity to teach the entire community of africanamericans. If you go on campuses today, private and public, you will see they are not just black students or american black students. They are latino, they are muslim, they are arab, they are coming from all across the world and across the country. I would say we need to more investment to be able to make the opportunity available to students who want to attend these institutions. Applications are up but enrollment remains relatively decline. It is not just because the people are leaving but the pai is getting larger. What we want to do and i think what makes america such a landscape is one size does not fit all. Just as diverse and historically black colleges there are catholic institutions, womens institutions and a range of different kinds of institutions and i think we need to, you know, speak forcefully. I dont have hope about the future for hbcus because hope is not a strategy. I have determination we are going to continue to persist to ensure these institutions are strong and vital and meet the expectati expectation. I attended graduation at my alma matter and watched over 300 extraordinary young men walk across the stage. They tack about their experience on the campus was preparing them to compete at the highest levels and they had great educational and Employment Opportunities Available Upon graduation but it prepared them for life. It was an experience they could not have gotten according to their testimony from any other institution. So, that was the right institution for them just as attending a predominantly White Institution as the right institution for the students who select them. I will let you weigh in and open it up for q a with the audience. When we think about relevant and tradition we think about it being grounded in education of theology and liberation. Our institutions are teaching the students in discipline but if they are preparing teaching, preparing them not only to go out and be a teacher but to teach students how to live. If they are preparing medical professionals and doctors. So, if anybody wants an excellent education grounded in the best underinnings of the teaching and pet gogey and so forth with the education liberation theology then they should come to an hbcus. Having said that, i want students to go to the best instewitution institution aligned with their views. Johnny taylor says 8 we are getting. Tat means 92 of africanamerican students are not coming to hbcus. That goes back to the whole thing about we are getting first generation low income and on and on. The communities and nation as a whole is becoming increasely w low increasingly low income and people of color. But until the nation invests in our institution along with their output we will not have some of the things that make it competitive and we will have a challenging time getting a larger marketshar share. We will keep pushing on that and push on our alumni and those watching who will pick up the phone and write a check to tougaloo and other liege colleges so we will have all the best infrastructure it to bring to the campus and make sure they have the best experience. I want to turn it to the audience for question. We have a microphone to my right and one to the back. I want to say hello to dr. Hanes and former director of White House Mission on hbcus. [applause] jennifer from respectability. Thank for that outstanding series of presentations. You tacked about intentionally mr. Taylor you talked about looking at the downstream issues. I wanted to ask about people of color with disabilities since 15 people has a disability and disproportionately people of color with disabilities are the most likely to go into incareration, homelessness or to be killed by police. What are the historically black colleges doing to recruit, train and prepare students with disabilities to really thrive throughout your institutions . Thank you. State institutions, not just the programs that will support them, but the physical plan has to embrace and be up to taet, compliant with ada, etc. You really raise a very interesting issue and that is that too is an opportunity to specifically target a population and make them feel welcome on our campus. I am always looking at it from the standpoint of increasing enrollment. If we have a targeted environment where people feel welcome and embracing which is why i am looking forward to working with you because her Organization Works on placing students in internships during school so they can have a higher chance of getting jobs. We need to focus on placing those students. They are the silent minority. It was really important and i think all of us are aware of the facts that the pool of people coming out of high cool school is getting smaller. Kids coming out and non traditional students are going into the market. We are not looking to a robust class of 2025. People have fewer babies. But the pool is getting blacker, browner, first generation. Wool make sure we get a fair share. Regulations relative to students who are stable and it gave us student scholarship money so that on the targeted campuses, i dont know remember how many, but it was a good subset and make sure they are pepaired to receive the students and afford them scholarships so they could participate. They gave the faculty, and staff and it is up and i will provide information but i look forward to working with you. Just one point because they talked about the disability side of your question and you asked about incarcerated. We have been looking at this and will be issuing a report relatively soon. We need stronger partnerships with the federal government to ensure those incarerated can enter the communities they have left. We know that the cycle or you know, i believe that there is a Robust Community for higher institutions that will think out of the box and look for the needs out there for people to get the education and training and development they need to compete in the 21st century. We have got to look beyond the sat scores and akt. We have to look at human beings who have the god given ability to develop if we invest in them. When they begin to get that development, and we see the outcomes, you cant tell the difference. Let me speak briefly. Private institutions, independent colleges, make accommodations for students with disabilities. With smaller colleges, we can target how we deliver those services to students. I am assusure many institutionse done that. We have given special c accommodations. If there were classes on a different floor, we reconstructed those so those with disabilities have a building more accommodating. Being flexible and looking at that helps meet the needs of students. I am Rashad Thomas with the American Council of trustee in the fund for academic renewal and a 2011 graduate of florida education university. Go rattlers and proud member of the hbcus community. My question is particularly to president hogan but everyone else can comment as well. A lot of students arrive on the University Campus without the grounding from their high school and graduate schools to be college ready. What are you doing to make up the gap when students get to your institutions . That is a challenge across america. You find those deficiencies often in reading, math and science. One of the things that Tougaloo College has been intentional about doing is how we structure this. The students texting them finding out the skills level. We believe if we get them to Tougaloo College we must prepare them and ensure they get out in good fashion. We have revamped our first Year Experience program that each student has a coach who advises them and fallose them throughout the first year. We have a center complete with computers and teaching and learning aids that students can go in and have tutors in whatever discipline they mind themselves challenged because they have been tested on their weakness weaknesses. We have the best experience with our first year. You will see a drop out from the first year to the second year. We had the lowest attrition rate for our students with this fall semester and Spring Semester and this our second year of having this program in operation. You vale to provide them with the tools that can aid them. Students come to Tougaloo College and dont come lacking the elements. They lack exposure which has a lot to do with learning, what you know and how you apply that. We realize that and provide the tools for. I have a question in the middle i want to get to. May i respond . One second. Make sure to get this question and you can followup. Could you stand police . Good morning. I am Lynn Williams with emerging technology consortion and i have a question or request from dr. Hogan. If i can give a brief backdrop it is pertaining question. It is pertaining to the Defense Authorization bill. And the reason i am bringing that up is we are hbcus. I am a graduate of Boise State University who gave me an extraordinary opportunity to have an internship and from that everything went up for me. It gave me a chance to work for a senator from my state of virginia, senator john warren. This going back 30 years ago. We need the question. We created a public law. This is very important for all of us. It created a public law that created 5 public law. Second 1207. That 5 field is senator sam young, bipartisan. Created 70 billion dollars worth of revenue for small minority businesses and hbcus research. Section 1207. When my senator retired mr. Williams, i need the question real quick. Okay. When he retired then came the policy and you know what the raw policy end up doing for hbcus . Here is my question and request. Here we are 30 years later, reagan increased the Defense Budget and now we got President Trump increasing the Defense Budget 30 years later. So we have an opportunity to do the same thing would you be willing to take the leadership to be with your senator so we can have a similar type of legislation that will create those kind of opportunities for our hbcus . I am very much familiar with the act and consider it done. We are working on that. I let you respond and take a question. So the question of preparation is an important one. We are delighted but where we failed is in educating this administration so far and educating others about the importance of the pipeline programs. The Early Childhood education for ages 35 where they close the 40,000 word usage, the healthy start, head start programs, early start programs, trio programs, the gear up programs, all of the programs that prepare lowincome first generation students to be ready to come in to and thrive are imperative for us to continue to work with a solid base, get them into and out of college. Thank you. Question. Good morning, i am darryl hameal also with emerging technology. Question . Yes. All right. Quickly. Very quickly, research and development has created hundreds of millions of dollars and diversified the income of many of the majority White Institutions. What is our strategy to ensure we get our fair share of the r d money so we can diversify the revenue of schools and bring in the things that ensure our students are technologically prepared very quickly. Tougaloo college has established a research and Development Foundation as part of our infrastructure and it is geared toward specifically that. How we access Greater Research dollars and promote Research Development and we are working with a lot of other hbcus. The National Defense act is Something Like that we are working on. We have to able to generate more research for our institutions and position our institutions to be able to deliver to the marketplace what these companies want. This is all this is something we all feel strongly about. We have worked as a team to reach out to this administration and both request and challenge them to meet a higher performance rate. I think it is important to watch the steps we have taken so far. We have said invite black College President s, meet from them, talk with them, issue an executive order to create a White House Initiative and bring that into the center of power, the white house and now appoint that executive director who is confidant and qualified and a strong advocate and board of advistores and essential to that executive order is challenging the departments of the federal government to make resources available, historically black colleges in the aim way that those resources are made available to majority institutions. We are determined to that. We have the leadership doing it. We need strong followship and advocy and all of us to hold the new administration to account on this. We have had these White House Initiatives since jimmy carter and i will tell you their result have been uneven. We will work hard with this administration to get the maximum we can in behalf of our institutions so they can do the research and have the resources from the federal government that are appropriate. A final point on that is why the house budget is what it is, ultimately this goes to congress. When you talk about a strategy, it is going in and you have a Republicancontrolled Congress so this is not the time to talk about us not talking to people because we dont share Political Party affilation. If that is the position, we cannot achieve the goals you are talking about. We have to go in and have conversations. We arepeting with the cochair of the hbcus bipartisan caucus. You must do that. That is where the money sits. It sits in the dod. Not the white house. I hope our following understand that. Some panelist will remain to ask questions. I want to end on a few notes. What all said about working across party lines and politics i am clear no matter who is in the house the hbcus shouldnt be an outhouse. We work from there. [applause] number two, 150 years from now there will be conversations about Higher Educationism i am proud to say in may of 2017 we had a conversation on the future of hbcus and heard from people talking about the challenges and opportunities and opening up the doors of opportunity for the generation of americans who will strengthen the republic. I want to thank all of you and thank cspan for covering this. Announcer washington journal continues. Host