This is will we do. John whats up with detroit . Can this happen to your town . Thats our showonight. And now john stossel. John detroit was once the richest city in america. I was three years old and. That was the 1950s. Now its the biggest u. S. City ever to declare bankruptcy. So what happened . Our guests tonight have some clues. First, fox News Reporter works in detroit and jt wrote, detroit, an american autopsy. An autopsy, one examines the dead body and tries to find out what killed him. Detroit isnt that exactly. What killed the trust . Wld kill the charge, racial conflict of detroit. Slav kill detroit. Corruption children. It seems like that is what has become the american way because detroit is notlone. What is baltimore going to do, atlanta, l. A. John detroit is and worse shape. Rse politicians, more unions. The automaker collapsed. It was in the politicians fault. It was just the big three crashed. It was all of them. One industry town. We were rich. We thought it would never end. Everybody put their hand in the till from management to politicians to unions. You could punch and your body will he went drinking. We blew it. I know everyone is watching, not because you care, but your review will be like us. John we want to see, maybe bankruptcy is the answer, but this may mean stiffing to the people who were promised pensio. They may get 0. 20 on the dollar i know. The golden age is over. We really just run it. Or in a new era now. Who even knows what money is worth. A promise, contract. Pensioners might take a very bad it. Its what was left us, neglect, sloth, and ripping people off the people didnt take it. Who took it . Detro was perpetually on fire. We have 7,000 carsons per year. Do the math. Thirty days. We have a Fire Department where the alarm still working inside. Holes in the booths. The engines we quarter. Sometimes the engine show up and can pump water. Thats not the fault go ahead john they took out the fire polls and sold the brass. Scrap them. They did. Gone. Everything now is a personnel. John the city did manage to build a new 60 Million Building to hse Fire Department officials. You tried to confront the deputy fire commissioner about that. He was not eager to talk. Deputy commissioner. And not sure if he was talking to me or you. Youre in charge of the maintenance of these fire houses. Responding 60 million on a new puic safety headquarters. The househe visit today should be condemned. How do you respond . What you tell the truth. John in this case this man was fired. As he shouldve been. You dont get to stop people around because your ampule they ask you, especially in your official capacity as the man responsible for making sure houses are clean and safe and not like some backwater or house into one of. Out on now. Is it is acceptable or you leave live . Is it acceptable that night when one goes down and baks for 15 hours. John in detroit if you call 911 you can be sure the police will come. You interviewed one single woman living alone that had been robbed and was afraid to go inside her home because the thieves might still be there. She was waiting for the police. I called them an hour ago and they still have a gun here. They get the tv, the game machine, the ltop. Oneandahalf hou and still no cops. Cops arrived four hours later. They say they came as soon as they were assigned the call. John you say sometimes the whole system goes down, but even when the system as it down there just arent enough cops or its badly managed. All of the above. Its badly managed. We dont have enough squad car sometimes to carry the cops around. The cars dont have computers in them. The cars dont have radios and then. They use their cell phones. Are you kidding me . Imagine one of our ladies coast to work, comes on and someone has broken in. I want to muscle to show up and make sure she saves as she can get an ounce. We cant even do that. What do we do . What the citizens are in themselv. Now it will all be our own police. John it may work out better than relying on government. Now we have this deal and florida. Maybe we are thinking it didnt work out better. Maybe we should leave policing to police. John lets look at in a documentary about detroit. It shows what parts of the city of lucknow city are like now. Of firebomb. A lot of the antisocial behavior and violence is because communities a broken down three people on Interactive One another. In manses they dont see themselves as a Community Even though they live next door to one another. Is bad for other people. Tess is just regular. It aint nothing else. John the documentary was made by Andrew Rodney who grew up in a suburb of detroit. You titled the film deforest. Why . It means to take property from its Rightful Owner by force. We title did that because i cannot think of a more accurate word to describe whats at the bill last 50 years in detroit. John the politicians would say today, we have a plan. We can build these clean New Buildings with our friends here and use Eminent Domain to kick people out of their homes. Yes. That happened many times. It happened with the pull town plan. Gm. John that was a neighborhood. Lots of people live there. Politicians said it will put an auto plant in there. And they kicked out dozens of people to make space. John what makes deterred worse than other cities . Its just the first. It is the first city to experience a lot of the planning that went into a lot of cities. The Federal Home Loan Bank board was a national program, but it was first in detroit where there really start to build the neighborhoods around these federal subsidies which sprawled them out and also racially segregated them. The third highest incometax of any major city. Yet theres no money. How can that be . I love to know where the money went, but better were the people went. When you pay the high income taxes, the only utility tax in the state, the highest car insurance, the highest honors insurance, the schools stink and you get no police, you know what happens to the money, they hit a mile road. The only people left the people broke paying the highest income taxes. 10 percent of the dollar is 0. 10. John both of you talk about this a mile road. The title of the movie. You were to the plan. Whats the significance . Well, its been 8ane highway, but it might as well be a border between tto countries. Is the dividing line between detroit and the norther suburbs. Things politically, economically john rich and poor. Pretty much. Things on both side of the alliance and night and day difference. John the politicians are going to improve the life of the poor building housing projects . This was another one of their grand schemes. Once like Brewster Douglas housing project. What happened . What happened . Exactly what happens when federal officials trying plan housing projects. It falls to pieces in a time and all. John thank you, andrew and charlie. Next, detroits mayor darks 50 trips, night clubs, rented limos. Taxpayers paid for it. What is up with detroit . Unethical, illegal when small mentalit has to stop. John detroit was once the most prosperous city in america. Where did the money go . The fall of the big three did not help, but politicians made it worse, they squandered money. Detroits mayor is launched big projects like the people mover which turns out all the move people in one direction and not many is the thought. Then theres a 350 millio Renaissance Center and the very expensive jail. When the money ran out detroit started to decay, politicians said things like this. We shall go forward. The toward show again become the great city that is its destiny. John 20 years later the mayor was still in Office Making similar promises. Detroit is alive and well. Rihanna not coming back. Were back. John when people criticize him a call the critics racist. To attack. John that generally shuns people of. A letter mayor and his cronies found new ways to let the city. The term city all into a den of bribes and kickbacks making themselves rich. What is the issue . Have violated any rules . Gabba you come back with no. John actually, i jury eventually came back with yes. Heill be sentenced this fall. Now, the are crooked politicians and politicians to overpromise everywhere. Why is detroit in the worst . Lets ask the reason foundation. She lives in detroit. The Goldwater Institute citys local government. What happened to your town . Well, detroit turned into a oneparty town. For 50 years itas ruled by one party, which means that usually youet the stupid party. In detroits case there was no such check. You get out of control spending and corruption and waste. John i assume they are in town. They know that some day somebody has to pay for this. Yes. Theyre not dumb. Theyre just very greedy. No one is thinking about the longterm horizon. All thehinking about is getting reelected and which constituency they need to buy in order to do that. In detroit, as all of michigan, unions and especially public unions are extremely strong. John you study this around the country. What does cities to that is better . Its so interesting. Deoit used to be called the paris of t midwest. Of course today 28,000 debt per person. You can look to other cities that are operating in the black with cash on hand, were Winning Public parks, all kinds of things. John was the difference . Number one, sandy spring georgia, the city that privatized nearly everything. By privatizing garbage, sewage, accounting, back office operations. They cut the cost of government in half. Any city in america could benefit from just that one provision. John by Government Employees but things stillun well. Well, when she was talking about the strength of the unions, that Something Else the Sandy Springs has right. By privatizing these services, you dont have the unions. So you only have five gernment employees. John and the town is smaller than the charge, but s still hundred thousand people. There have been five more cities to come along and copy this Sandy Springs model. John and while detroit is what debt per person . 28,000 per person. John Sandy Springs. Nine, operating totally in the black. Theyre charter requires them to have a cash operating reserve which is how they pay for capital projects. John yorktown got in the worst trouble because your last mayor was taken money for himself, kilpatrick. He used city funds to fund junkets, 54 trips, when zero rentals, but the charges, hired 29 of his closest friends and family for city positions. People didnt notice . That was not even the worst of it. The worst of it that he was actually using he was receiving kickbacks for fines of his choice to give and city contracts to his favorite cronies at used to be called friends and family in detroit. So he used to talk a good game. He would talk to bring ainds of development to detroit at the same time as he was talking about the big game he was quietly phoning the city coffers for money which is one reason why the chart was left in the financial mess. John trucks are cros, but even regular politicians wreck cities. I will confront one of your City Council Members. We want to make it easier for business. Giving them tax breaks. They have all these deals. Whats wrong with that . Theyre giving tax breaks to businesses that they have handpicked. These this is the kind of mentality. They like big, glamorous things. At the same time as detroit, in subsidizing these big businesses going after noncompliance, little momandpop stores. Operating illegally. John operation compliance. Were going to shut down 20 on lices businesses every week. Thats right. Jo of their unlicensed maybe they should shut down. Well, bob licensed businesses are providing Vital Services today. The are businesses that theyre selling chief cheap tires, second and appliances. This is a city that is losing about 30 people. The population has dropped from 2 million to under 700,000. This town needs businesses. It needs residents. Taxing tm and regulating the business to drive more of them now. John darcy, you list three things that all city should do. Privatization, water the of a two . Well, transparency which is a big one. Gaithersbu, md. , has zero dead and half for 40 years. Everything they do, these contracts, all of those contracts, or on line. Audits, accounting. It helps. A little bit of sunshine lets people know whats going on and creates a culture of trust which is important for getting people to want to invest and come back into the city. John before a city can get new debts goldwater says voters should have to approve it. Bonds have to go befor the voters. Quite often they say no. Thats a great check on curbing these huge l liabilities john despite all the debt coming to church as the third highest income tax of any major city. Ter philadelphia and lewisville which are doing that great either. Detroit is in the worst shape. Detroit, it even taxes and utility bills of residence. I think it might be the only city that does that. It has property taxes, business taxes and utility taxes. John thank you. Coming up, a libertarian has a plan to turn part of detroit into a mostly governmentfree zone. Will that work . Are will confront the politician who wont talk. Next, the rain reason the main reason detroit is broke. We can borrow. In fact charlie really couldnt borrow money more recently. Well them. Detroits new emergency manager. Detroits elected politicians spent all the money. This spend billions more. Suppose to give detroit out of that mess without stripping workers of their pensions until care is not clear. Michigans former state majority leader. What will happen . The judge will push t reset button. It will be the largest city in america ever to go into bankruptcy, federal bankruptcy. Everybody, kern workers, carothers 47 separate public unions in the city of detroit. In fact, some of the unions have only one member. Its hard for me to envision. Of one man union. And i just dont think politically a union can go to its members and say we agree to wage cuts or cuts to pensis are cuts to health care which is why i think it ends up in front to a federal judge. The emergency manager of the charge might not say this to anybody. I think he prefers to be in chapter nine. He has more power. A judge can say to the unions, you know, you can protest all you want to value a michael ix 00 monday morning. You have an hour to make your case and then on m decision. I really think that he prefers to be in chapter nine. John how big hair cut . Three in a half billion in the red which means a union worker thinks he has 50,000 year might only get 30 . Well, the judge is going to make tt decision in a bankruptcy court. And i really let me just say this. I have a great deal of sympathy for the average pensioner or the average retiree because they are not really getting a lot of money. John and they do nothing wrong. They did negotiate the deals. They did under invest in e pension fund. Detroit has to pension funds. E for police and fire and one for general employee use which is the larger. That fund is a mess. 30 percent of the investments are unrealistic. So the political managers said, lets invest in this and it made no money. Somebodys friend, someones uncle, someones cousin. And that pension fund is under investigation as we speak. John i see that the pension board paid 22,000 to send for truste to why. This is at a time when the pension fund is headed for bankruptcy. Once again, its up the pensioners fault. As the fault of people who are mismanaging the fun. The fault of Union Contracts that the city ould never afford t the politician says, want to say yes. John these guys are like me and when the bomb hits all be long gone. Did they even think that way . Cities all over this tion deal with those kinds of problems. The problem in the city of detroit is the leaders never really confronted it and tell what it. It was almost as if there were on remotecontrol model pilot, thinking someone would come in and bail them out er time. As we have seen in the promo to this segment of your story, those days are over. There is no more money. Borrowing from peter to pay paul and the ball to pay peter, those days are over. Theres no money left. John thank you. Coming out, we will confront one of those toward politicians. Up next, a tour of detroits ruins. There was a dead body found over year. John whats up with detroit . The city is a mess. About twothirds of its population left town. All neighborhoods are crumbling. Recently special correspondent clock three detroit. That house over their right behind you is literally bei consumed by weeds. Thats one example of so many. He works for one of the Community Groups is trying to clean of neighborhoods. This one needs it, despite signs like this one. Much of it looks like a garbage dump. Thats good news. Absolutely. But are they going to pick up all of thi i dont think so. What is the strangest, creepy as thing or thingssthat they found as they try and remove the blade and the trash . The worst thing was an actual dead body that was found over year. Bowling balls. You name it, kitchen sinks, refrigerators. The remnants of life. John many people left neighborhoods like these because there are so few basic services. , 11 in the ambulance may not come. The reality is that pick themselves up and put themselves in their cars to take them to the austral. John said amidst the garbage and abandoned property there is life. You see this house, nice motorcycle of front. How does this person and i . Two things. They have hope. To, they like their neighborhood john they found a home owner. Empty lots and and the houses across the street. What keeps you here . Well, i want to stay here in the city. Im here. To you ever worry about what happens in the empty houses and whether or not people are going to come after your stuff . I kind of keep the lot cut, closed doors on the abandoned houses, stuff like that. To keep an eye on them. You have to. To use to have neighbors. Yes. People just they moved out. John and this was typical of what you saw. It was neighborhood after neighborhood. Nice trees with nice homes and then a block away it was these abandoned, burned out homes. They were being devoured by the earth. Detroit is falling back into the earth, and thats not all bad news. John its not so great. It has some problem areas. For your show we have been ththe some problem areas. For sale signs, people moving out, homes under water. People give up and walk away, but thats just for sale signs. This is literally a Civilized Society devoling to nature. This is what they talk about, philosophers. On a talk about the state of nare, the rersion, this is happening. John you dont really siqueiros the state of nature does not give way to chaos. Is not going to be chaotic. We found what i like to call accidental libertarians, people who are becoming so selfreliant in of the City Government has failed them utterly. Services arent there, police are going to show up, so they have collected in the groups, crafting gardens, keeping bees, have chicken a lot of open land now. John injured going around with these community activists. There were saying, we just need a new mayor. The not talking about civ solutions. A talking about getting together, mentoring kids so that they have something to do so it now falleno crime and making the best out of the situation. Bad is not an acceptable word. Its something different. John one other area, politicians have driven deterred so far into the tank that prices are not cheap. Its a good place to start from scratch. You controlled by an empty lot for anywhere from 10500 bucks. You can buy a house for 510,000. John we checked out this abandoned house. It has been gutted by thieves. If you can see new flooring. Obviously they have taken everything out, all of the metal windows, appliances are gone. For 1,500 you could buy this house. And fix it up. You think about firsttime homeowners. You could literally on the house for 1,500 which is will allow the ople pen ran. John are you going to move there . If i didnt have kids would. Move to the try. Is plenty of land. The people are so infectious. I enjoyed my time. It was like surveying a war zone populated by st. Really awesome, abandon banding together. Detroit is the bees knees. John thank you. Next, a man who has a pla to rescue detroit. His version, turning part of it to a of freemarket paradise away from the reach of government. Is that even possible . John whacan be done about a place like detroit . Since it is so broke that often no one comes if you call 911. Some people there are finally ready to try new ideas. As the owner of a detroit bar puts it. Lets look at it with hope in mind. Nothing else has worked. Really we need new ideas. John here is a new idea. Take this island, its now a park. Make it into a limited government paradise. No need for taxes on income, investment, or the states making it a magnet for capital. It has become the big west tagger island. John wait a second. We are ahead of ourselves. That is speculation. The video was made by realestate developer. What do you want to do . Well, i think it can be an opportunity for droit to once again regain its stature. Th vision is ten have an Investment Group by the island for 1 billion from the city of detroit and to apply for commonalth status from the federal government similar to what the northern Mariana Islands in join our pr. Hn freedom to try new rules. We have our ownnlaws. The government taxation. We wld be business friendly. We try to model ourselves after singape. During that time the detroit has gone from 2 Million People down to 700,000 from 1950 until the present, singapore has gone from 1 million the 4 Million People. We would be business friendly. We would have some taxation principl which would make us very competitive. Number one is we would not tax anything we want to encourage. Number two, taxes have to be transparent. John we dont want to tax anything. Encourage. We dont tax investment or labor in come. John you do tax. Consumption. And the primary tax would be a real estate tax, but it would only be on the raw land value of the property owner, not upon the improvements that that person puts on the land. John and you would have to speak english to come to your community and bring in 300,000 to be a citizen. However, we would have a process. We would waive the fee. John why . Well, if it brings a special skill or a burning desire to be free. John and you really have serious investors. Yes. John plenty of peoples response to is is, are you kidding . Finally a consequence preparedness for rich americans. Thanyou for showing the people of detroit that life gives you lemons you take the lemons to your own island so you dont have to share any of the lemonade. John youre on the island. How does this benefit the poor peopl of detroit . A tremendous amountf capital will comma. They will invested nearby. Bring detroit back because people invested detroit. John you wrote the book to try to explain this to people. Its titled belle isle, the detroit game changer. The new york times, im not surprised to must near you. The writer said that the book has the hero landing on the rooftop helipad of the 57 story hotel. It makes the entire scheme very easy to mock as objective is to fan fiction. Objective is referring to eyeing rand. You are a fan of hers. I am. John you talk of having a billion dollars, trying to buy this from the city. Within this city would gym but that. Politicians often surprise me. Detroit City Council Members dont want to give up much of anything when michigans govern offered to have the state takeover belle island park since detroit cant even afford to maintain it, local politicians screamed. You may not take over bell island. It belongs to the people. John it belongs to the people, not to you. This would create a lot of jobs and opportunity. Right now theres no hope for the future. This would create that held. John this could save detroit just by bringing in new ideas and people and money. I believe so. There would be our singapore or as hong kong is to china. John i wish you luck. Thank you. Next, did you know detroit has thousands of valuable paintings . But it wont sell any. I will confront a politician who says no next. John whats up with t charge . The city can pay its bills, so the state offers to save them 6 milon per year by managing a park on belle isle. It would still be a park. It would not go away, but detroit opposes even that. Are they power mad . The second highest Ranking Member of the detroit city council. Councilman, why not sell stuff . I was in favor of selling at. We have a lot of issues. You wanted more time. John 6 million you would save right now. Why not to say yes. That was back in t early part of this year. We are responsible for the assets. A deal of this magnitude, we know we needed to take a time make sure the deal was advantageous for the city of detroit. If we can find other ways to garner revenue, thats my platform. John but you cant. Youre out of money. There are ways right now. Fortunately we have an emergency manager and a looking to possibly sell assets to be is not our first priority. Looking to slash employee ranks, negotiate bond debt. Everythings on the table right now. We have to stop losing money and of the city forward, become financially lvent so that we can be a thriving city again. John why not to before . We tried. Keep in mind, this d happen overnight. Thirty your 45 years in the making. The current council, the mayor under our watch, we try some things. We cannot go any further. We have a legacy costs, declining population, the plot declining revenues. John you have dlining population and revenue because you guys spend so much that there were lousy City Services. Well, youre correct. Over the years we did not allow ourselves to keep pace with the declining population. The city continues to spend, and we came into office and cut the budget every year. Nothing had been done like we have seen. We did as much as we could this point, but we are having people move into this right. There are a thriving businesses, people movingn, families moving in. Revitalization ting place, but at the same time the expenses needo get on an even keel in order to have financing for City Services so that people can have a quality of life. John if somebody wants to sell, you oppose that. One reason, we dont need any more new trees. Many people john our you in a positioto would think you take anything. Everything is not a good deal it did look good to me at the time and it doesnt right now. Going to a teardown some homes. Take care of some of the land, plant trees, plants robbery. We will have people who have vacant hous. Plant numerous trees and shrubs. They didnt move there for that. One another home. John i dont see why you politicians to decide what nehbors alike, but thats not my busins. We liv in those neighborhoods, too. John what about the art in the art museum, 60,000 are works. Yes. We have vaable pieces of art. Van gogh self portrait, Diego Riveras murals. Those are assets that we should have protected a long time ago. I trust that will not have to be sold off because will never be will get them back again. We have the park and museums, numerous assets that could be up for sale. I trust right now, negotiations we can get funs over ctrol under control. John i just dont get it. You talk about this. The city has been going broke for a long time. 60,000 paintings. The van gogh itself to be worth 200,000. Some of the people could look at it in another town who could afford it. We cant afford the museum. Thats one issue. Its one issue. The painting belongs to the people, and thats a small issue compared were going to. We have people who have moved out o detroit. There are things we have to do the change ourselves. We will come back again in order to make re we are not in this kind of deficit in years to come. My children. John sense to toward is broke how come you have six staffers working for you . I do not. When i began we had a budget of 600,000. Right now were down the 230. Add three people leave. I had three people now. One may be leaving sometime shortly. hn youre website says you have a community reelected of liaison, six people. We have for right now. I can tell you right now. John why do you have any . Well, how do we get things done . The government is to work. People call our office. We have a constituent complained i cant answer the pne. We do need some person. John thank you, councilman. Thank you. John i find it fghtening that our financial future will be determined by politicians like those on detroit city council. This is a problem for all america. Government officials rarely want to give anything up. Last year hewlepackard fied 27,000 workers. Ibm and gm laid off 100,000 when expenses got too hot. People were upset that the country to five companies had to do to survive. In the private sector will make our decisions like that all the time. People eat to the people usually dont even hear about it. In government they cl any cut a crisis. Even in detroit where you call 911 and no one respond, officials wont even sell a few paintings or let someone else manage one part or cut their four persons. Its the rest of americas government is anything like detroit, america is in big trouble. Thats our show. See you next week. D the willis report is next. Could evening. I am rory rthman. Tonight what was the big lesson investors learned after the fed took down its steve cohen oneeof the biggest man on wall street . The only way to make money in the market is tucci . 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