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And offer prayers. They asked god to have mercy on his soul. We welcomed you wednesday night in our bible study with open arms. You have killed some of the most [ inaudible ] people that i know. Every fiber in my body hurts, and ill never be the same. Tywanza sanders was my son, tywanza was my hero. Tywanza was my hero. But as we said in the bible study, we enjoyed you, but may god have mercy on you. On behalf of my family i too thank you for not allowing hate to win. For me im a work in progress. And i acknowledge that i am very angry. But one thing depayne has always joined in in our family is that she taught me that we are the family that love built. We have no room for hate. So we have to forgive. I pray god on your soul. I will never talk to her ever again. I will never be able to hold her again. But i forgive you. And heaven rest on your soul. You hurt me. You hurt a lot of people. But god forgives you and i forgive you. That was heartwrenching listening to the families of the victims. Almost to he one they said i forgive you. What an incredible lesson of love and mercy, their graciousness spirituality devotion to god to try to understand to try to rise above this horrific act of violence. Their family members and loved ones taken away from them. Like they said they can never talk to them again. But the last thing so many of them said was have mercy on your soul. I think thats the best way to sum it up. Julie . You listen to that and you hope that you have that kind of charity in your heart. If this were me i would hope i would be as forgiving. I frankly dont think i could be. And i think it just says so much about these people in this community, that 24 hours after this happened they were able to come out and do this. It is heartwrenching. I would say i like this way of doing the Court Hearing where you get to actually hear from the victims families on the day, rather than waiting six or seven months from now when this crime has been processed in our minds. This is actually very raw. I think thats one of the reasons it was so compelling and emotional. I admire them obviously for being able to get up and say what they did. And i think that because they are dealing with a hurt that is deeper than anyone else that their mode of forgiveness is the way to healing. And then it is incumbent upon the people of South Carolina and us then, to make sure that the justice is carried out. Greg . That might have been the most powerful expression of any Human Emotion ive ever seen in my life. Im like i will never be that good. And we witnessed unmitigated pure evil. And that to me is like the most best example of what is good that ive ever seen in my life. And i am not religious. But i see this and i cant begin to understand like does religion make great people . Or do great people go to religion . I dont know. All i know is what i saw. I cant even understand. I cant even comprehend that. Its so beyond me. And so amazing. Im gob smacked. Julie, you pointed out how good are these people to be able to have that emotion at that moment and theyre the people the families of the people who were in church on a wednesday night at 9 00 never expecting Something Like this to happen. You know one of the most devastated parts of the story there are so many. But one of the most devastating is reports of this killer this alleged killer i should say, said that he almost didnt do this because everybody there was so nice. Too nice. Everybody there was so nice. He didnt want to kill them. I mean it is incomprehensible. You see the community they must have come from when you see the families and the way they reacted to this. Its incomprehensible. Ainsley earhardt is outside the church to offer us information on the victims families. Reporter eric listening to your conversations it really i think you sum up how the Charleston Community feels about this. Of course it is evil and they are sad. However, they are using this opportunity to share their faith and hoping like you said greg that people do see the good side of religion and do see what forgiveness is all about. These powerful messages are going to change the hearts and lives of other people that are watching. And i think that is their goal in all of this so that their loved ones do not do i in vain. Reverend dr. Daniel l. Simmons sr. , a 74yearold was killed. He worked for the church for 30 years. His granddaughter stood up and she said this there is proof that they the victims, lived in love because they cared about your soul. She said that to the suspect. And then went on to say hate will not win. Myra thompson also was killed 59 years old. Her family members said i forgive you and my family forgives you. But we would like to take this opportunity to repent. Repent to the one who matters most in life christ she says so he can change your ways no matter what happened to you and you will be okay. Do that and you will be better off than your right now. Truly caring about the soul of the man that took their loved ones. Its unbelievable. The theme here is that hate will not win. That the people of charleston and this community will learn to forgive or have forgiven. And thats the theme here. Were not seeing protests. Were not seeing blacks against whites. Were not seeing democrats against republicans. Were seeing unity in this community. My sister lives here. I asked her what was your reaction. She said i am saddened i am sickened. I am shocked by this. But she said i have found hope seeing how my city has come together in unity. There is going to be a unity walk here across the cooper river bridge which connects charleston downtown charleston to mount pleasant. That will happen on sunday where people link arm in arm and they walk across this bridge. It doesnt matter what color, what denomination what your political affiliation is. And i think the overwhelming theme here guys is despite all the evil in this world because as we have seen there is evil in this world good overcomes evil. And good will always win. Back to you guys in the studio. Ainsley, thank you very much for that report. It was a woman on her way to work at a florist shop 250 miles north of charleston who helped bring the manhunt to an end yesterday. Listen to debbie dills incredible story of how she helped the police nab the racist murderer. Im not a hero and im not brave. I got a little nervous. But i just started talking to the lord about it. I wasnt sure it was him. And i didnt want to get anybody else in trouble or be overreacting. So i called my boss. And he said well we need to call somebody. And he got on the phone with the Kings Mountain police. He stayed on the phone with me. I was able to catch up with him and get right behind him and get his tag number. And the kings mount police and the shelby city Police Caught him within a matter of minutes. And now that hes been caught and charged lets bring in mike tobin outside the courthouse where todays hearing took place. Mike tell us a little bit about that. Reporter well the one thing we know about the perp right now he is not going to get out of jail before he goes to trial. The judge, thomas James Gosnell said he doesnt even have the authority to issue a bond on the nine murder charges. He did put a bond of 1 million on the weapons charge. But really its overkill. This kid wont be able to make the bond. And it would still have to happen somehow outside of murder charges. Its not going to happen. Hes going to stay in jail until he ultimately answers for those charges. One of the things quite interesting about where hes staying, hes in the same block as officer michael slayinger being sleigher charnl slager charged in the shooting of michael scott. You talk about the weapons charge of the gun. If the father bought the gun, hes claiming he bought the gun himself. If his father or someone had bought the gun knowing he had a criminal record or he was taking drugs. I would assume he would be arrested. Do we know anything about that . We havent seen any efforts toward a prosecution in that case. But im sure the question has been raised particularly back in the offices of the solicitor or the prosecutor out here. At best thats a very irresponsible thing to do. When we know now that this kid did have some trouble. It was also on taking drugs, we know when he was picked up in february he had some drugs that people take when theyre trying to get off opiate. Theres a strong indicator he had been doing stronger drugs. We know weve got all this racist language in his background. So allowing this kid to get a gun was sloppy at best. Dana . Mike from where we sat when we were his upping to the families who were addressing roof from what i could see it didnt seem like he expressed any sort of emotion. Do you know differently . Or have you heard anything differently after he confessed . Reporter no. And i think every indication is that he is dry and possibly a sociopath. Because you heard him answer a few matter of fact questions there in court. And no indication of emotion or guilt at all. Julie . Does he have a lawyer is he using a public defender . Im curious as to whether you have the celebrity lawyer that is come and try to defend these cases. Im curious as to whos defending him now, a public defender or whether theres some celebrity lawyer on his way to try to get this guy off. Reporter so far its a public defender who showed up in court. I didnt catch his name because i was listening over a cell connection. Mike any other information about the family or anyone show up on his be half while he was there in court answer together charges . Reporter you know we did see some of the family members show up in court. It was terribly sad. A lot of them were escorted. Some were holding the older women by the arms as they walked in really i think more than what we heard from the family members well you cant top what we heard from those family members in court. But watching them coming and going, it really felt like you were looking at people who were emotionally broken. Mike thank you very much for that report. So what should happen to dylann roof . South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley who was quite emotional yesterday said theres only one punishment necessary. We absolutely will want him to have the death penalty. This is the worse hate that ive seen and the country has seen in a long time. We will fight this as hard as we can. Kg seems like an obvious choice. Well right. But theres still going to have to be a process. Aggravation, multiple homicides. He has confessed to it. So its going to be about the penalty phase. Its obvious hes going to be held accountable for this. The options are life without possibility of parole or death penalty. What are mitigating circumstances . What could possibly be mitigating . Were going have to see. A development in his background. Somebody that was suffering from some mental disease, illness or defect. Was this somebody under the influence of some kind of medication. So theyll perhaps try to do Something Like that. Its going to be very difficult to prove in fact that he didnt know the nature and quality of the offense that he was committing that he didnt have the intent to kill because there was some planning premeditation. Then of course as evidence in the aftermath when he drove well first of all drove several hours to get to that specific location going a church a house of worship where youre not going to have weapons. So a lot against him. Im not for the death penalty. I think ive said that before. I dont believe in an eye for an eye. I think the worst punishment you could give anybody is life in prison without the possibility of parole. If that were me id rather be killed. I said that before as well. But the worst thing you could do to this person is life in prison without parole and thats what he should get. I know kimberly is not here to be interviewed. But can i ask you something about a process like this . If you have a killer who has confessed, can the process of getting to this penalty phase be then sped up and not have to drag on for two or three years . Thats a great question. What should happen and needs to happen is a whole hearing to determine whether or not it was a valid confession did they follow all the proper steps. Once a lawyer gets involved are going say hey listen i might try and throw out the confession for my client get any kind of evidence statements excluded. Then they start to work on some of the other factors. One of other things mitigation would be his youth, his age. But you have to make sure that this is something that with stands legal discernment and review upon appeal. So its very difficult to just mail it in. Unless he wants to plead guilty and they think that hes able to assist in his defense and in that decision. Final thoughts . Yeah. Just to reiterate how much what a terrible person i am compared to those lovely people that we saw. My suggestion is to for the rest of his tiny long life he should be strapped to a chair and his eyes should be pulled open clockwork orange like and misdeeds should be played over and over again. And the last feeling in his life has to be excruciatingly painful. Then ill be happy. All right. When we come back the blame game continues in the aftermath of the South Carolina massacre. Meanwhile, the prosecutor vows to bring justice to the community and the victims. My mission toys bring justice for this community, and especially for the victims in this case. And we will do it efficiently and effectively. And well do it behind the scenes so that we can be successful. Kids are expensive. So im always looking to get more for my money. Thats why i switched from uverse to xfinity. They have the most free on demand tv shows and movies on all my devices. Its perfect for me because my kids are costing me a fortune. Im going to cabo dont settle for uverse. Xfinity is perfect for people who want more entertainment for their money. After such brutal crimes weve left with people asking how come we dont do anything about it . We to do something. We arrest and punish the vermin responsible. Then of course we argue about guns. Although often its only the loudest, sometimes British Voices we hear. Then we return to our neutral corners and wait until the next crime occurs. This shooter, why name him, should be boiled alive. The rest of us though should seek Common Ground or well go around this track forever. Number one, obviously when a racist act occurs its proof racism exists and may never ever go away. A leftover scab from the early days of group living. However, when you use this murderous act to represent a greater whole, as if society itself pulled this trigger, then you diminish evil. Our revulsion to the crime, not the crime itself indicates who we are. When this shooting took place, society didnt rejoice. Instead hearing the news was like ingesting ipecac. It made us sick to our stomachs. A racist country doesnt recoil. So this was a racist act but it was also terror. Forget Mental Illness. If this punk is deranged then so is isis. Seriously, beheading people on a beach is just as crazy. Insanity should be casebycase not race by race. Fact is calling him deranged is a cop out. He planned his cowardice. He almost changed his mind. Young men, be they white, black, arab dont need a screw loose to be evil. All they need is infamy a toxic belief and a path. What they dont need from us is an excuse. So theres been a lot of blame going around because thats what happens the next day. They blame drugs, kimberly they blame guns. They blame fox news. I can play that tape later. They blame society. They blame gentrification. I dont even understand half this stuff. This just a natural human need . Right. Because we struggle to try and understand and to make sense of something. Because you dont want to actually say pure unadulterated evil like the devil exists on earth but it does. What happened in charleston is evidence proof of that i think, conclusively. So they try and blame guns and do everything. But its misdirected. Its not really helpful. Its just operating in a state of denial. The guns dont sit there and do things on their own. Guns are used to save lives every day as well. And to defend others lawfully and legally in this country. So you shouldnt confuse the two. Julie, a lot of people they mentioned deranged crazy. But theres millions of people with Mental Illness who dont shoot black people in churches. Right. And sometimes it just seems that thats another go to spot for some reason. Im so glad you called this an act of terror. Because if this guy were a muslim wed be calling him a terrorist. This guy is a terrorist. Theres no two waits about it. What he did was perpetuate an act of terror against black people. Thats what he did. What i get offended by are people saying well you know we have to look at Mental Illness. Yeah theres a whole bunch of Different Things you want to look at. Thats fine. You want to look at gun control look at gun control. Look at Mental Illness look at Mental Illness you. Have to look as this is an act of terror exactly as if somebody from isis came here and shot up a synagogue or shot up times square or anything else. This is somebody trying to perpetuate terror upon an ethnic community. Thats something i think is lost in the sauce here when people say he had needs, he was sick, he was deranged. He was a lot of those things. He was a terrorist and thats what he was. Im glad you called it. He had an ideology and he attacked based on it. Thats terror. But hes also a racist. He literally said you people are having sex with our wives and taking over our country. Listen. If you have a problem with president obama not being able to call a muslim extremist a muslim extremist, for whatever ideological reason he doesnt want to do it you cant sit here and be white and say that guy wasnt a racist. He was. He is. And should be treated that way. It should be a hate crime, terror crime, hate crime. Give give it all to him. I would say give him whatever form of Capital Punishment you can give him in South Carolina. Interesting, though. The gun debate, i cant believe within hours of this murder this terror that president obama brings up the gun debate the first time he hits the camera. Listen this is not the time to litigate it. But wow, in my opinion that was too early. When was a good time . I dont know. Maybe after theyve theyre buried. After everybody moves on . Thats the problem. Everybody will move on and well go beyond it. Its going to happen again. Greg and i will point out once again its a place where there are likely not any guns that some crazy madman goes in and shoots the place up. But i just would hope we would have waited a few days for that. Dana, i want to play this. John stewart did a serious monologue on this. He was very moved. And i want to play a piece and then ask you a question about it. Okay. Al qaeda, all those guys isis . Theyre not [ mute ] compared to the damage that we can apparently do to ourselves on a regular basis. The issue i have with this is we. Im not sure if im misreading this. But the idea that we do to ourselves, the idea of extrapolating a horrific event to society at large. Am i misreading this . I took it another way. Okay. Which was just along the lines that human beings can do to themselves. I dont think that he was i would have take it a different way. I do think that on the question whenever people want to have that debate about guns i actually think because that debate is ongoing and it is not going to be solved quickly, there is a part of this Law Enforcement issue and intelligence sharing that we know that he was on facebook. We know he was looking at the racist web sites. We know that he was writing these types of things. And are we going to get to a point where we can allow Law Enforcement to have some sort of deterrent to be able to get in front of these things and check someone out, whatever it might be. Those are very tricky fine lines when it comes to our Civil Liberties as they stand. But there might have been a way on this when were looking at a digital war to not lose it either when it comes to isis or even domestic terrorism. All right. When we return for the First Time Since his suspension disgraced anchor Brian Williams speaks out about his lies. Does he deserve a Second Chance . Thats next. Your credit is in pretty good shape. Chuck, i know i have a 798 fico score thanks to experian. Com. Kaboom. Get your credit swagger on. Become a member of experian credit tracker and find out your fico score powered by experian. When you travel, we help you make all kinds of connections. Connections you almost miss. And ones you never thought youd make. We help connect where you are. To places you never thought youd go. This, is why we travel. And why we continue to create new technology to connect you to the people and places that matter. The Brian Williams apology tour has officially begun. In his first interview since being suspended in february for lying about being on a helicopter that was brought down by shell fire in iraq williams opens up about his tall tales. The tv anchor did not specifically say he lied but that he told the story correctly for years. Well, until he told it incorrectly. Brian blames the mess on his ego. It had to have been ego that made me think i had to be sharper, funnier, quicker, than anybody else. I told the story correctly for years before i told it incorrectly. I was not trying to mislead people. That to me is a huge difference here. One is too much. Any number north of zero is too many. We cant have it. I cant have it in my life. I cant have it in my work. I cant have it in the company we work for. The disgraced journalist was demoted to the breaking news anchor role at msnbc when he returns in august. Lester holt meanwhile, will take his place on nbc nightly news. Here williams reflects on his suspension. It has been torture. Looking back it has been absolutely necessary. I have discovered a lot of things. I have been listening to and watching the what amount to the black box recordings from my career. Ive gone back through everything. Basically 20 years of public utterances. Quite an extensive process. So eric are you buying this . Was this a good apology . Was it nbc that made him go out and do this . Well i think nbc was smart to push him to go ahead and do it. I think if he wanted to stay on tv it was the only way he was going to stay on tv by doing it. I think as for nbc and Brian Williams its as good as its going to get. So hes going to go back to msnbc now. I believe he was there before he was chose ton go to nbc and then finally getting the big anchor job. But things have changed at msnbc in the last few years. Just imagine the toss from al. Thank you, reverend al then starts reading his news. Or the other toss the other way now over to you Melissa Harris perry. By the way, beautiful earrings youre wearing right now. Okay he will be on tv. Hes good on television. People will watch Brian Williams. But for once now maybe for his opinion instead of his journalism. It will be interesting. Communicationwise dana, do you think the message was conveyed and this will satiate the public . I think so. I thought he looked humbled. This is one thing i really admire. The humiliation was not stronger than his desire to go back to work. He knows its a major demotion. He knew he had to do this interview. Can you imagine how difficult it was getting up this morning knowing you have to walk in there and in front of all of the people that you used to be you were the head of the network and now youre being subjected to an interview by matt lauer . And i thought he sounded very humble. And i think, though the desire to work the understanding that in order to live a Meaningful Life he needs to have a reason to get up every day, a place to go a goal to meet. And i think that msnbc was probably the open place he was going to be able to go. He had very few allies within nbc. I would imagine that he will actually improve msnbc. Maybe he wants to keep his contract and his money. And thats a way to do it. Thats what you do when you take over something, right . Thats true. What im saying maybe he wanted to keep his money and his contract too. Still in the family. Financial aspects probably at play as well. Greg . I mean it makes sense. Nsnbc is the island of misfit toys. He will fit in there as kind of like the new leader. And people will come and watch and see if he screws up. It really is though the Media Version of solitary confinement. Hes its the second level of punishment that hes going through. But this is a problem ill never have to worry about because nobody takes me seriously. Hell be babe in toyland over there. Why is he good enough for msnbc but nod good enough for nbc . Are they implying msnbc deserves less credibility than mbs . Msnbc is the Frank Stallone to nbc sly stallone. Why do we subject people in the public eye to self selfflagellation . I dont like it because americans are forgiving. You know if you do this interview, like now hes basically what else is there left . I guess its the selfanalysis. Not so much he apologized. The oh, my god, i messed up. Come on. Just put out a press release and lets go. I would say the reason for msnbc versus another nbc proper nbc the big knock hes the journalist. Hes supposed to be factually accurate on everything that comes out of his mouth. Clearly we know thats not the same standard nbc has for msnbc. Its highly opinionated. Some of the stuff we go oh, really . Hes not going to be held to the perfect journalistic standard he would at nbc. He said look it wasnt my first choice. I would have loved to have my old job back. But i think he does want to work. Hopefully hes going to further define his will golegacy. When it comes to being a success in the workforce, which matters most a College Degree or your skills . The Surprising New poll results, and thats coming up next on the five. Great job okay here you go. Good catch alright, now for the best part. Ooh, lets get those in the bowl. These are way too good to waste, right . [ male announcer ] share what you love with who you love. Kelloggs frosted flakes. Theyre grrreat moderate to severe Crohns Disease is tough but ive managed. Except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. And when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe Crohns Disease. 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According to a new poll it might not be at least when it comes to landing a job. The poll found that workers see social intelligence, computer knowledge and other skills as more important than a fouryear degree in launching a successful career. Greg lets say youre hiring for a job and you get a stack of resumes and you have to figure out a way to basically narrow it down. If someone doesnt have College Degree would your instincts be to discard it or keep it in the pile . Let me clarify. It depends on what type of job. But for example, when i was working with business oil trading business. And people come to me all the time. I have this experience that experience. It didnt really matter. Some of the best people most successful people in that type of business had no degree. Literally i stood next to a guy a cab driver for ten years prior to getting into a trading place and one of the most successful traders on the planet. It was instinct. Same thing that makes athletes and military people good as well. Unless its a sort of field you absolutely need a math or science. If someone doesnt have that you want to make sure theyre qualified for the job first. Kimberly there are so many people that will ask us for career advice. Could you look at my resume. Hat in a way this is a little bit dangerous. We do know that over our lifetime if you do have a College Degree you are more likely to have more wealth. There are exceptions. Do you think its changing enough that parents can maybe let off the gas a little bit . I guess they can. I guess its all about your own selfdetermination your focus and your live. There are still people and organizations that care about degrees. I think there is no kind of down side to having one. The rest is what you make with it. If you think youre going to walk down the aisle, have the diploma and greatness is going to pull up like the taco truck in front of your apartment, thats not going to happen. But you can help speed it up along the way, getting the jobs internships, reaching out to people to get help and doing something about it. Thats the great idea. And the good news is we can teach you how to make the case. The thing that bothered me in this poll greg i understand that Computer Technology and access to it and being able to understand it which i wish i knew more about it is important. But one of the things i thought is that having good family connections is important to being getting a job rather than going to college. Sad but true. Do you think its true . I think maybe, yeah. But im more interested in education. Because they used to teach you how to think about things. It was about how to think. Think critically. Think critically. Now were teaching people how to feet. Theres no more thinking its feeling. Students are now enrolling in anger. If you take a gender studies major youre going to teach gender studies. Its not going to help you in any other case. I have no discernible skills. I articulating an opinion will not change a tire or install a toilet. And if there were a mass catastrophe on this planet i would be of no use to anybody except for repopulating. Youre not creating any jobs. Repopulating . God help us stay with being annoying okay . You have a 2yearold son. I do. How much time do you devote thinking about his future College Career . 24 7. I hate to admit it all the time. I wish i werent one of those parents. Does this poll give you hope you can like let it go . No. Because before he was even conceived i was like how do i get him into harvard . You walk around with that foerld all the time with the applications. Hopefully hell have good family connections. I wanted into harvard they wouldnt let me in. Just in time for fathers day, a special dad receives a special award. President bushs emotional remarks about fatherhood when we return. Hey america, still not sure whether to stay or go to your people . 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While accepting the award from his daughter barbara, 43 opened up about how fatherhood and family changed his life. I think the most important priority for a dad is to be a dad. In my case i might have been slightly selfabsorbed at times. But when i became a dad, i only had one real job. And that was to provide for these little girls. Was i always successful . I dont know. They can be the witnesses. But i know this it was my priority. As a matter of fact i dont think i would have quit drinking had it not been for being a dad. You see, what happened to me was, alcohol was becoming a love. And it was beginning to crowd out my affections for the most important love if youre dad and thats loving your little girls. And so fatherhood meant sobriety from 1986 on. All right, dana. Between your book and this im actually starting to come around on your old boss. Mission accomplished. But ive got to tell you, you and i were talking about this. I got it. Talking about it earlier. Thats a Pretty Amazing story that heres somebody who quit drinking almost immediately because of the girls. In his book decision points he writes about 14 most important decisions in his life. The number one decision the one that starts the book is his decision to stop drinking. I really shouldnt be up there but he was like a second father to me. I guess we could say that. I know a friend of mine who was a speech writer for him. On the morning that this guys daughter was born he had a speech due to the president. He was worried and he thought oh my gosh should i give him the speech . What do i do . His wifes in the hospital room. The phone rings and he says oh, my gosh the oval office. But it was the president not calling to ask about the speech. He said i heard that you are the new father of a daughter. And for men, having daughters makes us want to become better people. So when i heard the fathers day remarks today i remembered that. Thats interesting, eric. You are the only dad here on this panel. Hopefully as far as greg knows. Can i comment on that . He seems like an absolutely amazing father. And i get it. And i agree with you, dana. That when youre a father and you have daughters it makes you want to be a better father makes you stop drinking. If you have a 17yearold son makes you want to drink a lot more [ laughter ] boy, its not an easy job. But hats off to george w. Bush. Congratulations. You earned it. Yeah. Well to me that was a testament to how great drinking is. That the only way youre going to quit drinking is if you saddle yourself with some insane responsibilities. Thats why im putting it off for awhile. I think you should have responsibilities. I have kids in the wine cell cellar and theyre all pinots. Kimberly first i want to say happy fathers day to everybody. Secondly theres a lot of mothers out there who are both mothers and fathers to their kids. And you and i are both single moms. Exactly. But i have to say my hats off to them. Obviously happy mother and fathers day to you. Youre one of them. Thank you. Well yes. Well i mean my dad is great and hes alive. But i think the bush family is wonderful. I really enjoy hearing about them. Im super delighted that theyve served our country so beautifully and in such a fine example of a United Family together. Wonderful parenting. So a lot to learn. How beautiful is barbara bush when she introduced him. Beautiful girls. Its interesting. You watch those girls grow up then you see the women theyve become. So congratulations. Happy fathers day everybody. To all the awesome dads out there. One more thing is up next. So youre a Small Business expert from at t . Yeah, give me a problem and ive got the solution. Well, we have 30 years of customer records. Our cloud can keep them safe and accessible anywhere. My drivers dont have time to fill out forms. Tablets. Keep them all digital. Were looking to double our deliveries. 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I last night got to have dinner with malala the young woman at 11 years old she started a blog about little girls in pakistan who should be allowed to go to school. She was shot in the face by the taliban. She survived. She has decided to tell her story. It is an absolutely amazing one. She stopped by the daly show last night before we had dinner. Sometimes people do things that it has been forced upon me or i havent chosen this life the reality is that i have to live this life. Sometimes we wait for others and think that Martin Luther should raise among us Nelson Mandela should raise among us and speak for us. We never realize that they are normal humans like us. If we step forward we can also bring change just like them. Shes absolutely amazing. This october there is a documentary that is being released its called he named me malala her story about her family and what shes trying to do through the malala fund to bring Educational Opportunities to girls everywhere. I didnt have a personal dipper with her but a group dinner and she really touched my heart. One person can change the world and make a difference. Julie . Recently visitors in los angeles took the opportunity to pose with Arnold Schwarzeneggers wax figure. Look what happened. Because i am. Cane help you . No touching. Do you want to come into the shot . [ screaming ] thank you. You scared us oh, my god. I think its amazing. He was doing it as an opportunity to promote his charity after school all stars. Good job, governor. Great job. Very good. Greg youre up. All right. Time for gregs eternal questions about life wow. Yes. The question for the panel. At what number of pages of a document do you decide not to use a stapler but a paper clip to hold them together . 20. 20 . Interesting. Depends on how long the staple is. Thats not an answer. Are you talking about the big fat paper clips . I dont care. Are you joking about binder clips . Shes saying binder clips. No. The ideal number is 14. I dont use paper clips. Of course you dont. I think it depends on what you have free. The staples are different lengths. Enough with your questions. I only asked the question. It didnt take off. No one knows. Wrong. Its 37. Im a midget mclaughlin. All right. Yes, enough of that. Bad visual. And visual of a few good men. Because the u. S. Marines are resurrecting a historic name. So the army has the green berets. The navy has the s. E. A. L. S. U. S. Marine corps bringing back their old moniker of the raiders, marine raiders for the special Operations Forces otherwise known as marsofs. Im offended by that. Yes, you would never qualify. But on a positive note were happy for the marine corps god bless them and their service. Thank you for your service. Anyway thats for us. Happy fathers day. Well see you back here monday ill be back tuesday. Special report on next. Relatives of those shot down in the South Carolina Church Massacre speak directly and emotionally to the accused killer. This is special report. Good evening im Chris Wallace in for bret baier. Were learning more tonight about the young man who has reportedly confessed to murdering nine people in a South Carolina church wednesday night. Dylann roof appeared in court today for an extraordinary session in which relatives of the victims directly confronted him, and some forgave him. A vigil is about to begin to mourn the dead. We are also getting first person accounts of the grief and despair he