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About the royal family . Are they still significant cultural force for us brits . Finally, champagne for us brits . Finally, champagne by the pint load. Normally its a bucket of me. Obviously post brexit licensing rules mean sparkling and still wine will still will be available in imperial measures from the new yeah imperial measures from the new year. Churchills ideal year. It was churchills ideal size to drink champagne , but size to drink champagne, but does the country really care . Does the country really care . Thats all to come in the next houn thats all to come in the next hour. But first, the latest news headunes hour. But first, the latest News Headlines with the very sparkly polly middlehurst. Doll. Polly middlehurst. Doll. Thank you and good evening to you. Well we start this bulletin with the news that the daughter of Jacques Delors says the former president of the European Commission has died. The 98 Year Commission has died. The 98 year old was a leading figure on the french political left in the 19805 french political left in the 1980s and became known to many in britain through his dealings with the then Prime Minister, margaret thatcher, and he was famous , of course, for the famous, of course, for the creation of the euro. Frances president emmanuel macron, has honoured his fellow politician in the last hour, saying hed been a tireless architect of what he called our europe. What he called our europe. Jacques delors, who died today. Jacques delors, who died today. Now Police Scotland has declared a Major Incident, urging drivers stuck in snow on the a9 to remain in their vehicles. Footage circulating on social media shows cars strand in the highlands before snow ploughs were able to start clearing away through to get them out. Storm through to get them out. Storm garrett has cut power as well to 18,500 homes in scotland due to heavy rain and strong winds. Heavy rain and strong winds. Rail passengers on the east coast main line between london and scotland are being advised not to travel. Thousands of travellers, also facing some delays at airports, with flights grounded and in dover ferry passengers have been facing delays as well of up to an hour and a half. Thats due to staff sickness at the french side of the border. It comes amid increased demand at the port as thousands make their way to france for post christmas trips. France for post christmas trips. Those whove booked ferries are being put on to the next available crossing, where there isnt any space. Jeremy hunt has announced the Spring Budget will be set out on the 6th of march next year. Reports are also suggesting downing street could axe inheritance tax and reduce income tax. Sir keir starmer has seemingly instructed his frontbench team to finalise their manifesto plans within weeks. The labour leader apparently telling shadow ministers to have their policy proposals ready by mid january. Proposals ready by mid january. Shadow financial secretary to the treasury james murray says labouris the treasury james murray says labour is ready to make the changes working people need. Im sure therell be endless speculation about the date of the election. Were ready for it whenever it comes because i think what people across britain know is that the tax burden is set to be the highest in 70 years. Have seen years. People have already seen 25 this 25 tax rises under this government since last government since the last election. Growth is on the floor in this country. People are worse people want change. Worse off, people want change. And whenever the election and so whenever the election comes, for it. Comes, well be ready for it. James murray now in the united states, the michigan supreme rejected an Supreme Court has rejected an attempt to remove former President Donald Trump from the 2024 president ial ballot. The 2024 president ial ballot. The ruling is in sharp contrast with the recent court case in colorado , where mr trump was colorado, where mr trump was disqualified from running for president in that state due to his alleged role in the capitol hill riots. The decision on that has been paused pending an appeal here in the uk. Has been paused pending an appeal here in the uk. A 16 year appeal here in the uk. A 16 year old boy has been arrested on suspicion of arson following a fire at a school in west london. Ten fire engines and around 70 firefighters were called to the blaze at the london oratory at around 10 00 this morning. The london fire brigade said. Part of the building has been damaged, but theres been no reported injuries. New figures on hospital car parking fees in england show theyve risen more than 50 in the last year. Visitors and patients spent. Visitors and patients spent. £146 million for parking during 2022 to 23. Thats the equivalent of £400,000 in hospital car parks every day. The data also showed parking fees paid by hospital staff had soared more than eight fold, as well , from over 5. 5 million to well, from over 5. 5 million to more than £46 million as and lastly, brits will soon be able to buy new pint sized bottles of still and sparkling wine as part of new post brexit so called freedoms. The new size will appear on the markets shelves , appear on the markets shelves, as well as pubs and clubs and restaurants. The government says the move is going to offer flexibility and choice for customers. Parliamentary under secretary for business Kevin Hollinrake says the move will benefit everyone. Well hes really important change. We used to be able to buy pints of champagne in bottles and wine, for example, before joining the european union, so i think its an opportunity for innovation. Churchills favourite size of bottle. He said it was the right size for lunch for two or for dinner for one. So um, so i think its a nice innovation. Think its a nice innovation. Its something we can do now. We left the european union. Thats the news on gb news across the uk, on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your smart speaker. This is britains news channel. Britains news channel. Welcome back to dewbs co with me, dawn neesom. Now joining me until seven is my Brilliant Panel tonight we have conservative life peer in the house of lords, Daniel Moylan, thank you very much for coming in. And equally lovely, we have senior politics lecturer at queen mary university, doctor richard thank you very richard johnson. Thank you very much. Well, especially at much. As well, especially at this time of year. So to do this time of year. So much to do isnt there i think they isnt there xmas i think they call it. Yeah, ive got lots of name betwixt but i mean betwixt us, but between i mean its lots of new names. Its got lots of new names. The news ends. The news never ends. The news never ends. Its. So we stopped saying merry christmas. We cant merry christmas. Now we cant say and its say happy boxing day and its not quite new year, its not quite new year, so its twigg smith. You moved to new i think you moved to new yeah i think you moved to new year. Okay. Just move on to say ilappy year. Okay. Just move on to say happy year. I mean, whos happy new year. I mean, whos going offended anyway by going to be offended anyway by having happy . Going to be offended anyway by hav lets happy . Going to be offended anyway by hav lets just happy . Going to be offended anyway by havlets just hope happy . Going to be offended anyway by hav lets just hope youre y . Going to be offended anyway by havlets just hope youre having lets just hope youre having a lovely out there. A lovely time out there. Weve got cracking coming up got a cracking show coming up for you can get in touch for you now you can get in touch with us about all thats coming up on the show. Vaiews gbnews. Com, and on twitter news. Really, twitter at gb news. Really, really now and all really simple now and its all about well. Its not about you as well. Its not about you as well. Its not about we think, be about what we think, to be honest with you. Were just here about what we think, to be ho sort with you. Were just here about what we think, to be ho sort ofth you. Were just here about what we think, to be ho sort of like,u. Were just here about what we think, to be ho sort of like, you ere just here about what we think, to be ho sort of like, you know, st here about what we think, to be ho sort of like, you know, talk re to sort of like, you know, talk about twigg smith. Your views are ones. Now are the important ones. Now with the budget announced for the Spring Budget announced for the Spring Budget announced for the 6th march, chancellor the 6th of march, chancellor jeremy hunt is reportedly considering scrapping inheritance tax entirely ahead of the next election, whenever that may be. Is it the right time . I mean, should we abolish time . I mean, should we abolish the inheritance tax for good, though . I mean, we seem to i seem to have been talking about inheritance tax for almost as long been talking about long as ive been talking about brexit. Um, it brexit. Now, um, but is it finally time that we get rid of it . Im going to come to you first on daniel on this one. Its the death tax. There are some countries that dont have it. 40. Its quite it. We charge 40. Its quite high, just get of it. High, right . Just get rid of it. And i want to notice. Well , the argument for well, the argument for getting inheritance tax getting rid of inheritance tax is a cruel and unusual is that its a cruel and unusual tax that falls at a time thats determined by death. And it falls mainly people who are falls mainly on people who are neither rich nor very poor. Neither very rich nor very poor. So the really rich people are clever and have access to means of largely avoiding it. Exactly. Whereas the people whose main asset is a house or Something Like that and, and whats left of, of savings, uh, end up paying of, of savings, uh, end up paying it. But it wouldnt be my priority to i mean, id like to see i do like to see tax cuts, tax cuts are very good. But id like to see tax cuts that actually a more direct actually had a more direct effect stimulating economic effect in stimulating Economic Activity and provoking entrepreneurial ism in this country, which we are seriously lacking now. People dont want lacking now. People dont want to take risks in the economy, and theyd much rather get one of those lovely contracts from the government to subsidies the government to get subsidies to, to build boilers or, or heat pumps or heat pumps, which are very. None of those very expensive. None of those bits or bits for windmills. Yes. And then they dont have to worry about risk because the governments them anyway. Richard, coming you on richard, coming to you on this, i mean, only 4 of people in country subjected to in the country are subjected to inheritance death tax, if inheritance tax or death tax, if you to call it that. So is you want to call it that. So is it something that is it. Is it almost a bit like the rwanda scheme . Its a bit like something that everyone thinks we talking about. But we should be talking about. But none us are really that none of us are really that bothered about. I mean, i would yeah, i mean, i would i would expand i think yeah, i mean, i would i would exp ad i think yeah, i mean, i would i would expa good i think yeah, i mean, i would i would exp a good tax. I think yeah, i mean, i would i would expa good tax. Its i think yeah, i mean, i would i would expa good tax. Its a i think yeah, i mean, i would i would exp a good tax. Its a tax. Think yeah, i mean, i would i would exp a good tax. Its a tax. Oh k its a good tax. Its a tax. Oh okay. Yeah. I mean its a tax on unearned wealth. It is actually one of the most hated tax in the country. Having said everything just most hated tax in the country. Havi by said everything just most hated tax in the country. Havi by the everything just most hated tax in the country. Havi by the way. Ything just most hated tax in the country. Havi by the way. Yeah] just said by the way. Yeah well its unpopular, but as you just said affects small you just said it affects a small number estates. And i think you just said it affects a small nlyouzr estates. And i think you just said it affects a small nlyou believe ates. And i think you just said it affects a small nlyou believe ines. And i think you just said it affects a small nlyou believe in striking think if you believe in striking a blow against intergenerational inequality, one the best inequality, its one of the best taxes against taxes to go against intergenerational i intergenerational inequality. I dont really understand how people can support social mobility equality mobility or believe in equality of they believe of opportunity if they believe that whose parents were that a child whose parents were lucky enough buy a house in lucky enough to buy a house in london in the 1980s should benefit more a child whose benefit more than a child whose parents lucky or , know, parents were lucky or, you know, bought blackpool in bought a house in blackpool in the that to me seems to the 1980s. That to me seems to be arbitrary, it be completely arbitrary, and it seems like the kind of tax that would very sensible for the government. But daniel, people have already this. Yeah, already paid tax on this. Yeah, theyve tax on their houses. They pay tax on their own income. Its earned. Income. Its not earned. Unearned in hands of unearned income in the hands of parents. The way richard parents. And the way richard talks it, of course he talks about it, of course he sees radical disjunction sees a radical disjunction between the child and the parent. Whereas those of us of a more conservative disposition see children and see parents and children and continuing generations as part of very valuable of something very valuable called a family. And the family is the unit of importance here. And should and that wealth should be inheritable in families. Um, its all very well to say that its all very well to say that it arises because youre lucky, but that might be the case in some cases. Um, it also arises some cases. Um, it also arises because people have worked hard, because people have worked hard, because theyve taken risks, theyve and theyve built up businesses and things like that. So i think what richard saying is, is , what richard is saying is, is, is good click bait for the for the youth vote, which i think might be discussing some might be discussing at some point program. But point later in the program. But i dont think it really stands up to a proper concern of scrutiny. I dont think its pro family at all. Mean, i think is its i mean, i think this is its a of an inflated a consequence of an inflated housing the south Housing Market in the south east. Are those are east. And those are those are the that are, uh, the households that are, uh, affected by the inheritance tax and rightly, and probably quite rightly, because market in because the Housing Market in the south east is too hot. And its fair. Think , for its not fair. I think, for people whose parents live in rented or in a, in rented accommodation or in a, in a, in a council house, to not inherit this wealth, but people whose bought house at whose parents bought a house at the time and right the right time and the right place do so, that doesnt place to do so, that doesnt seem to me that one family has made necessary, better worse made necessary, better or worse decisions than the other. Its just its a case of luck. You are focusing on that one case people , um, buying case of people, um, buying houses. But thats thats where most wealth in this country is, is passed on, is through, is through, through a house. And i think that, you know, we have some really pressing issues that this address. Particularly this could address. Particularly i think theres a very good case for expanding out inheritance tax and using that funds to properly fund social care. How would you expand it . How would expand it . Would you expand it . Does that sorry, just the how does that sorry, just the other thing i have a quibble i have with richard that he have with richard is that he says addresses says it addresses intergenerational. So the intergenerational issues. So the implication is that you take money off older people, old enough that theyre dead off dead people, and you give it to young people. But now i first of all, that never happens in government. Theres never a hypothecation of taxes. So you can be certain they go to a particular, um, benefit theory if you like. Um, the second is hes now talking about giving it into social care, which is essentially , um, uh, another essentially, um, uh, another form of social concurrently is hypothecated in council tax, because at the moment, county councils and Unitary Councils can can raise extra funds to fund social care. But this creates all kinds of inequalities. Is it. Sorry its not actually youth that are living in social care. No, this is but this is what im saying is that if you know the intergenerational issue is that some people will will benefit from a question of , of benefit from a question of, of luck, of chance of nothing, of not of their own doing, and often not even in the case of their parents own doing it may just be that their parents lived in the right place at the right time, and i dont see how that if we believe that people should, everyone in the country should, everyone in the country should and should have a fair start and that should have a good that people should have a good equal chance to succeed in life, i dont see how we should say, well, people who whose parents were this circumstance should were in this circumstance should be made a millionaire if their parents lived in london. How would they should be so how would they should be made though . Richard how made it out, though . Richard how would if you were if you would it work if you were if you were in charge . Well, if i was if i was to think about expanding it, i would, you know, the moment would, you know, at the moment you pay would, you know, at the moment you pay anything on you dont pay anything on inheritance of half a million or less. It goes to a child or less. If it goes to a child or a grandchild. I think that those kind exemptions be kind of exemptions should be should and possibly should be looked at and possibly lowered to. I mean, but i mean, were not just talking london the i mean, but i mean, were not just ta east| london the i mean, but i mean, were not just ta east now. Ion the i mean, but i mean, were not just taeast now. I n the i mean, but i mean, were not just taeast now. I mean the i mean, but i mean, were not just taeast now. I mean sort of south east now. I mean sort of like many, many cities, you know, in the north. Yeah. Housing market is, is people dont you know, people dont deserve, you know, people arent house someone arent owed a house that someone else bought. Arent owed a house that someone els and so if that means that when the house, when the, the grandparent passes away, that house has to be sold on in order to pay inheritance tax , i see to pay inheritance tax, i see that thats no bad thing. That thats no bad thing. The end of this thought process is basically if someone is lucky enough, as you say, but also you say, daniel worked also as you say, daniel worked hard a property and hard and owned a property and wants to leave it to their family. You dont think they maybe should able leave maybe should be able to leave it to family . To their family . Can leave it to their family. But but that family should then as the family should then pay as the family should pay then pay as the family should pay it. Pay tax on it. If the house needs to be and if the house needs to be sold, the house needs to be sold. I sold, the house needs to be sold. I dont think people have a right to their parent or grandparents house. I think people a right to good people do have a right to good housing, then housing, but thats where then the be much more the state should be much more active and proactive, and the state needs through state needs revenue through inheritance tax to fund, say, good social housing and, and good social housing and, and good support uh, the good um, and support uh, the ability of people to get access to regardless of what to housing regardless of what their parents or grandparents. This all sounds a bit mean to me, daniel. This all sounds a bit mean to me itianiel. This all sounds a bit mean to me it doesnt sound like its it doesnt sound like its actually supporting the family and people work hard. Its not. Not in exactly its not. Its not in exactly that. Its based on this of that. Its based on this sort of radical each radical individualism that each person you know, in each person is a, you know, in each generation unit in generation is a unit in themselves. Whereas many of us would actually rather the would actually rather see the core unit here as the family and the importance of strengthening family and the idea that property actually descends through a family , that might through a family, that might mean that somebody who some people who are undeserved, you might say are undeserving , um, might say are undeserving, um, inherit money that they wouldnt otherwise get. I mean, somebody might be a terrible old drunk and inherit money that, you know, and spend it all on, on rubbish or whatever , you know, rubbish or whatever, you know, um, that can happen from time to time, but those are very rare cases. I time, but those are very rare cases. I think that the, the whole notion that wealth can descend through a family is really , really important to really, really important to social cohesion. And we drop social cohesion. And we drop that in favour of this radical individualism that richard is advocating dangerously. I advocating very dangerously. I also think, as i say, that the more money you give to government, the less certain you are that its going to be spent on useful with any on anything useful or with any degree of efficiency. And thats not political at not a Party Political point at all. Way government all. Thats the way government actually operates. It is a huge engine of waste and the more money it has, the more it will waste. So all this idea that its going to solve all our problems from social care to, to social housing and all the other things that richard has brought into it is just wrong. It doesnt generate enough money to doesnt generate enough money to do those things anyway. So just do those things anyway. So just do those things anyway. So just do those things do all those things simultaneously. Anyway um, it could some them. Could go towards some of them. So i think, um, i, im here defending cuts in um, in inheritance tax and indeed arguing against the tax as a whole when really its not my priority. However i have said its not my priority. I would rather see taxes cut and regulations change that would stimulate entrepreneurial ism so that capital, there is actually a risk capital left in the country and not this passive sort of government funded capital that is ruining our economy and destroying our productivity. Productivity. I completely reject this characterisation that my position is bounded in some kind of radical individualism. For me , the main unit is the nation is society, and that people , uh, as society, and that people, uh, as opposed to the family. No that that i think that from the perspective of, of what government does when it taxes and looks after us all, we should thinking should be thinking about, of course, look after course, we want to look after our own families, but we should also be thinking the also be thinking about the country nation that we country and the nation that we live in and wanting to look beyond just our beyond just helping our immediate to thinking immediate families to thinking about who down about the people who live down the or live in, possibly the street or live in, possibly in parts in completely different parts of the when they the country, because when they succeed, families succeed. Succeed, all families succeed. And well, the and if we just say, well, the only people im going look at only people im going to look at in very myopic view is just in this very myopic view is just the people in my immediate family, then actually, i think the people in my immediate fanhavehen actually, i think the people in my immediate fanhave a n actually, i think the people in my immediate fanhave a realtually, i think the people in my immediate fanhave a real problem hink the people in my immediate fanhave a real problem with we have a real problem with wider well well, sounds wider society. Well well, sounds like family versus the state on this one, doesnt it . Blimey, thank you very much. Uh, now we have to move on. Unfortunately, the government is set to introduce a new help for first time buyers. But is it too little, too late . Have todays tories lost young voters for good . I tories lost young voters for good . I think i know where one of my guests might be coming from on this one. Im dawn neesom on gb news, britains news channel. Radio. So welcome back to dewbs radio. So welcome back to dewbs co with me. Dawn neesom. Uh, keeping you company until 7 00. Is conservative life here in the house of lords . Daniel moylan and senior politics lecturer. I cant even say it. Its such a posh title at queen mary university. Doctor richard johnson, thank you very much for joining me. Uh, tonight, gentlemen , now, a reminder we gentlemen, now, a reminder we want to hear your thoughts as well, about well, because it is all about what think. Get in touch at what you think. Get in touch at gb views, at gb news or on twitter at gb news. Very, very simple. Now lets move on. New yougov polling shows. Just 11 yougov polling shows. Just 11 of 24 to 49 year olds plan to vote conservative at the next election. Tory insiders say they election. Tory insiders say they need a substantive offer in place on housing to win back those Younger Voters and now michael gove has suggested that the government could introduce new measures to help first time buyers, suggested introduce buyers, such suggested introduce at some point. Eventually. Da da at some point. Eventually. Da da da da da. Weve heard it, havent we . But is it too little too late now . Im actually going too late now . Im actually going to come to the younger member at the desk tonight. And that is richard. Richard, i do know how richard. Richard, i do know how old he is. Im richard. Richard, i do know how old he is. Im not going to tell you that, but hes very young, richard, what do you make of this . Are the tories toast with Younger Voters . This . Are the tories toast with youyes. Voters . Yes. Yes. And okay, the end of and okay, thats the end of that hahaha. That debate. Hahaha. Why would they vote i mean, why would they vote conservative last conservative if after the last 13 i mean , this latest 13 years, i mean, this latest announcement has diagnosed a major part of the problem. The conservatives have with young voters. But it comes much too late and it just seems really quite kind of desperate, flailing at the very end of a of a dying government. I mean, from a dying government. I mean, from a conservative party standpoint, their failure to tackle housing and economic matter also has a knock on consequences for their failure to reach young people in terms of the cultural politics of today as well, because young people today feel very insecure about their , um, about their about their, um, about their housing, about their job prospects, and therefore arent able to settle, to start families, all those kinds of things that are associated with voting conservative. So the conservatives have doubly shot themselves in the foot here. I think , daniel, you are a tory think, daniel, you are a tory member of the house of lords. Yeah. Have you lost the youngsters . Youngsters . Well, i think that particular generation that you mention is difficult. They have had the sort of difficulties that richard mentions and the government has not addressed the housing and housing issues properly. And even his announcement even today his announcement essentially stimulates , makes it essentially stimulates, makes it easier to buy rather than actually doing something to build more and increase build more housing and increase supply and nobody is addressing the issue about immigration, which in the last two years has added net 1. 5 Million People or Something Like that , 1. 4 million Something Like that, 1. 4 Million People, uh, to the population of the country, all of whom are entitled to, i mean, deserve a proper home to live in. Um, and yet were not building into anything like that raid. So the government , i dont think, anything like that raid. So the government, i dont think, has addressed the housing issue properly. And right properly. And richards right about think we also have about that. I think we also have to remember, though, that many of people have hold of these young people have hold very opinions, which very radical opinions, which i suspect theyve imbibed , uh, at suspect theyve imbibed, uh, at sort left wing university is, sort of left wing university is, um, a university um, for example, a University Lecturers, for example. Well, hell more about it than hell know more about it than i do, of course. And hell be able to give us give us the dirt. But i mean, they are the sort of there is the generation which, to according polling, uh, thinks that the october 7 attack by hamas theyre likely to hamas was theyre more likely to think that that attack was think that that that attack was justified than any other cohort. Theyre more likely to have left wing views on other issues. And i think theyre partly lost to the tories through indoctrination and brainwashing at their places of education. But i agree the tories have not done. We tories have not done enough to bring them on board in material terms. But the intellectual corruption, i think, even more important. Okay, richard, so you, um, are wing radical who are are a left wing radical who are corrupting young folk, not him personally. If only i was not powerfully, obviously if only University Lecturers had that power. The reality is that , i mean, we reality is that, i mean, we i mean, you know, i love my students, but its a struggle sometimes to get them to do a couple of readings a week for the seminars. So the idea that were indoctrinating them in this all powerful this kind of, uh, all powerful way, exaggerates the way, i think exaggerates the point a lot of peer point there is a lot of peer pressure that goes on, and there are different kind of social attitudes that younger people are having. Uh, maybe some of are having. Uh, maybe some of that comes from university. Some of that might be being at university and being around other people exposed to different way in different views in a way in which we go back, even which if we go back, even a generation or two, people were less physically mobile within this country, people were staying in the same community that their their , you know, that their their, you know, their parents and grandparents had been university causes people all around people to come from all around the country and theyre exposed to different its to different people. Its a problem ive got with what youre saying, right . Is the fact that when you and is the fact that when you say, they a say, you know, they are a univer, i didnt to univer, i didnt go to university, as you can probably tell, when you say tell, but but when you say theyre exposed to different viewpoints at university, they all out thinking all seem to come out thinking the way. The same way. Theyre exposed to well, so theyre exposed to cancel culture well, and cancel culture as well, and theyre exposing you cancel people, your authorities are people, but your authorities are very i mean, im not speaking for your particular university, but what we see generally is that dissident views, views that dont match the university narrative , are very often narrative, are very often squeezed off the campus. And i squeezed off the campus. And i think thats exaggerated. I mean , im a leave voting pro israel academic. And i, i encourage students to speak their minds. And some students have different views than me on many different issues, and thats perfectly good. I issues, and thats perfectly good. I mean, in a politics department, one of the things we tried to do quite desperately try to do is to get our students to debate each other. I think what happens, though, is when students go university and students go to university and they think theyre exposed they so i think theyre exposed to from of different to people from lots of different backgrounds and different parts of the country in a way that previous generations, when fewer went to university werent. But there sometimes groupthink there is sometimes a groupthink that does form on a on a university campus, because theres exerted to theres students are exerted to peer and want to be peer pressure and want to be popular and to and to follow the crowd. So there are these tensions that that go on. But the idea that its academics that are sort of pouring this information into these naive brains and vessels, i think is, is actually is a gross exaggeration of what actually academics can do, or in fact, academics can do, or in fact, academics do in fact do at universities. Universities. So do you think there is more , i mean, expanding this topic . I mean, i think we all agree that a were not building enough houses and b it doesnt matter what the tories say, theyre never going to win. I mean, the latest statistics say 50 of 18 to 24 year olds will never vote tory. Now that alludes to what you were just saying there. Maybe the naivety of youth. You know what you think. 18, 19, 20 is completely different to what you think when youre in your 50s. Obviously but i mean, do you think there is a more of a generation gap here now . I mean, theres always been a generation gap. Obviously, i completely understand that, there seems gap. Obviously, i completely undervitriolthat, there seems gap. Obviously, i completely undervitriol now. There seems gap. Obviously, i completely undervitriol now. I there seems gap. Obviously, i completely undervitriol now. I mean,3 seems gap. Obviously, i completely undervitriol now. I mean, sortems more vitriol now. I mean, sort of like talking about my lovely niece now, ones in niece and my mum now, ones in their in their their 20s, ones in their 80s. Theres barely they can theres barely a topic they can have conversation about have a conversation about without falling back, falling out on. Yeah, including the whether. Whether. Well the whether ive yeah. Well the whether ive got strong views on the weather by the way thats another sos my mum. You should meet my mum. You should meet my mum. Well back to that. Um, well come back to that. Um, especially way its especially the way its broadcast television now broadcast on television now which i which is utterly confusing. I cant whats going cant follow at all whats going to tomorrow. To happen tomorrow. The red warnings are a bit scary, arent they . The red warnings are a bit sca itsirent they . The red warnings are a bit sca its nott they . The red warnings are a bit sca its not just ey . The red warnings are a bit sca its not just the red its not just the red warnings. I mean, you know, you not even know. You have to listen minutes. And all listen for five minutes. And all i to know is it going i want to know is, is it going to be wet or dry . Windy or sunny or thats want or whatever . Thats all i want to know. And you have to listen to know. And you have to listen to this lecture waves and to this lecture about waves and isobars like that, isobars and things like that, and people off. Anyway, and people showing off. Anyway, thats another thats thats another story. Thats another i think your the another story. I think your the vitriol think not vitriol is, is, is, i think not an integer i think that an integer thing. I think that has in politics. Um by has appeared in politics. Um by people have stimulated the people who have stimulated the nofion if people who have stimulated the notion if you if you dont notion that if you if you dont agree with then you are agree with me, then you are a hateful figure and, or, you know, of hate know, this whole notion of hate that has introduced, hate that has been introduced, hate hates the word, it . There hates the word, isnt it . There seems is hate is a noun, seems hate is hate is a noun, really . Which of course , hate really . Which of course, hate has never really been a noun. Its really a well, hatred is the noun. Um, but hate is this thing that that infects that i think is not intergenerational, but i think there are but i do think that there are very different views very radically different views into views as well. Very radically different views into i views as well. Very radically different views into i dont views as well. Very radically different views into i dont believe ws as well. Very radically different views into i dont believe anybodyll. Very radically different views into i dont believe anybody who now, i dont believe anybody who says vote for says ill never vote for a Political Party because peoples opinions do change over time, and can become more the and they can become more the people this poll just to people in this poll just seem to hate tories using that word. Hate the tories using that word. Everyone the tories the everyone hates the tories at the moment. Nearly mean, thats moment. Nearly i mean, thats the the matter. Nobody the truth of the matter. Nobody has to say about the has a good word to say about the tories that i can think of, but you can see so its not just the young and the i dont young people and the i dont believe, but but certainly at the they wouldnt be the moment they wouldnt be voting thats absolutely voting tory. Thats absolutely true things we true. But there are things we could them, not just if could do for them, not just if that was your question, not just on no. We to on housing. No. We need to address question of address the whole question of student example, student debt. For example, people leaving university with ridiculous debt ridiculous amounts of debt that they they repay. They know they can never repay. Unfortunately they never expected example, expected to repay. For example, its thing is a ponzi its the whole thing is a ponzi scheme and a and it needs scheme and a scam, and it needs to thought about more to be thought about much more seriously. Thats one we seriously. Thats one thing we could could could do. Another thing we could do make it easier do is actually make it easier for people to have children. Now i know every time i this, i know every time i say this, people but what policies people say, but what policies are actually going to work . And what ideas . Have what are your ideas . And i have very clear ideas about what they are. At moment we make are. But at the moment we make it hard for young couples it really hard for young couples to children. The other to have children. And the other thing i do, heres my, thing i do, and heres my, my, my for a for a pretty my proposal for a for a pretty audacious proposal, which is back in the days of the roman empire. They used to have. They used im not that old. Used to have. Im not that old. No sumptuary taxes, which were taxes on extravagant expenditure no sumptuary taxes, which were taxe� rich extravagant expenditure no sumptuary taxes, which were taxe� rich people gant expenditure. So rich people who spent a huge showing off huge amount of money showing off would paying tax on it. I would end up paying tax on it. I would end up paying tax on it. I would actually have a sumptuary limit how much can spent limit on how much can be spent on a wedding, because i think the of a wedding now is a the cost of a wedding now is a major disincentive to people getting married. And i think it should limited maximum £3000 should be limited maximum £3000 to £5000 for your wedding. At the end of these £30,000 ridiculous weddings on credit cards and make people get married cheaply and the married more cheaply and the pnces married more cheaply and the prices would come rapidly prices would come down rapidly if you that. If you did that. I though that went off on a tangenti i though that went off on a tangent i wasnt expecting. As someone who got married for a couple of hundred quid, by the way, you very much. Way, thank you very much. We have run out of have to move on, run out of time. Um, but im sure youve got more to say right now. Got a lot more to say right now. The kings christmas message was the programme on the most watched programme on christmas does that prove Christmas Day. Does that prove just and relevant just how special and relevant the royal is . And ive just how special and relevant the a yal is . And ive just how special and relevant the a special is . And ive just how special and relevant the a special festive and ive just how special and relevant the a special festive treative just how special and relevant the a special festive treat for got a special festive treat for my cant wait for you my guests. I cant wait for you to out what that is to find out what that is exactly. Im dawn neesom on gb news, britains news channel. , youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. Welcome back. This is dewbs co welcome back. This is dewbs c0 nato with welcome back. This is dewbs co nato with me. Dawn neesom sort of dawns and co, i guess any case, keep me company until 7 00. Is conservative life peer in the house of lords Daniel Moylan and senior politics lecturer at queen mary university, doctor richard johnson, confessed johnson, whos just confessed hes married in july. So hes getting married in july. So thats we some thats lovely. We have some happy well. Now i want happy news as well. Now i want to hear you as well. Get in to hear from you as well. Get in touch on vaiews gbnews. Uk or on twitter at gb news. Really, really simple. Now. Com. Sorry, really simple. Now. Com. Sorry, thats my eyes going there. That is my age now. Nearly 7. 5 is my age now. Nearly 7. 5 Million People tuned into the kings speech this christmas, topping the tv charts yet again. Topping the tv charts yet again. Does this prove the royal family is important . As ever though, or was there really not that much on the other side to bother with, or had you had too much festive spirit by that point . So what do we reckon to this one . Daniel im going to come to you first on this one. Are we out of love with the royal . We watch the kings speech and i dont know if you saw the documentary last night on the years. You know, charless coronation, the year behind the scenes. Fascinating. I think thats going to do very well in the ratings as well. But were watching them on telly. But really, are they a bit bit old fuddy duddy now . We dont really care that much about it. Oh, thats completely wrong. We love royal i think we love the royal family. A small family. Um theres a small bitter , vitriolic band of bitter, vitriolic band of republican fans wandering around, um , not much larger than around, um, not much larger than it used to be when i was a child, really. Mostly writing for the guardian, and its sort of clickbait. Um, to , to keep of clickbait. Um, to, to keep themselves in jobs. Of clickbait. Um, to, to keep themselves in jobs. Um, themselves in jobs. Um, everybody else, i think is perfectly happy with the royal family. They only have to contemplate the alternative for two seconds to realise how dreadful it would be. And i dont think the royal family, i mean, im, im great supporters of the royal family interestingly, a family interestingly, it is a family i think fact that it is a think the fact that it is a family coming back to our discussion at the top of the program, quite program, um, is really quite important. If it was just a series of discrete, separate individuals, um, then i dont think actually stack up think it would actually stack up to but its because to very much. But its because it together a family. It works together as a family. Okay . We know they have their problems families. Do. Problems with all families. Do. Um, think people are very um, and i think people are very keen think the king did keen on on i think the king did very well. I think hes really worked his way into a role after what can only be described as with the most with every respect, the most difficult in the difficult act to follow in the history the true of last history of the true of the last two centuries. Richard i think even you would agree that, wouldnt richard i think even you woulthatree that, wouldnt richard i think even you woulthat the that, wouldnt richard i think even you woulthat the queenst, wouldnt richard i think even you woulthat the queenst, wipretty you, that the queens are pretty hard act to follow . Absolutely but need them now . But do we need them now . Do. And but do we need them now . Do andi but do we need them now . Do. And i think i think we do. And i think when when the queen passed when the when the queen passed away, i think some people suspected that there would be this in the support for the this dip in the support for the monarchy. You heard some monarchy. And you heard some people say, this is people say, well, this is a personal tie that people have with elizabeth ii, and is it likely to continue to and actually, by and large , support actually, by and large, support for the institution has continued. And i think for me , continued. And i think for me, the reason for that goes back to what the labour Prime Minister, clement attlee, said about the monarchy himself being a strong supporter of the monarchy , where supporter of the monarchy, where he said that the monarchy does not belong to a particular section of society, belongs section of society, it belongs to us all. And if we had an elected head of state in, inevitably there would be winners and losers in the choice of who becomes our head of state. And it would be harder for the head of state to truly embody us all. And to try to rise above the politics of the day to day , and to think about day to day, and to think about representing the best of the nation, which is when monarchy works best. Thats what it does. Daniel. I works best. Thats what it does. Daniel. I mean, bringing politics into royalty. I mean, it has been an incredibly Political Year as well for the royal family. Youve had the whole harry and meghan issue that theyve had to deal with, which is, again, very, very divisive. I mean, youre either team harry or team william, who is most people seem very, very animated about this division. They do, but i dont think theres a Huge Division in the nafion theres a Huge Division in the nation between team, like its sort of 5050 and its sort of we dont know where we are. I think most people have got rather bored with harry and meghan really, have put them at the really, and have put them at the back are not back of their minds and are not really thinking. Do you think its having an impact think about do you think its having an improyal think about do you think its having an improyal family think about do you think its having an improyal family though . Nk about do you think its having an improyal family though . You bout the royal family though . You know, as youve said, its like they a family. All families they are a family. All families have this is one of the have issues. This is one of the issues theyve had recently. Um, do tarnished the do you think its tarnished the image the family the image of the royal family or the stuff weve learned about what goes on their closed doors . Well, no, i dont actually, because really because i think what really respond, what really is important is how members of the royal family respond and how they behave and do they behave with the sort of dignity and self restraint that we expect from people as in following the lessons the late queen sort of created for how the royal family should conduct itself and i think the fact they dont respond that they do conduct themselves with restraint and with a degree of dignity, wins them sympathy and really makes stories eventually go away. So stories eventually go away. So to that extent, theyre sort of impermeable. Theyre impervious impermeable. Theyre impervious to these stories. Over the longer tum. Um, um, and, and longer tum. Um, um, and, and i think the harry and meghan thing is, is really quite juvenile and nobody takes it seriously as a criticism of the institution. Criticism of the institution. Um, there are other things you might think of that might be one day in the future, but at the moment harry and meghan are not in that. This is tittle tattle. This is east enders, um, you know, in buckingham palace. Know, in buckingham palace. To be honest with shameless, to be honest with you. Ever watched you. Have you ever watched shameless . No, i never watch. You. Have you ever watched sha very ss . No, i never watch. You. Have you ever watched sha very ss . N shameless atch. Its very posh. Shameless watched eastenders ive never watched eastenders ehhen ive never watched eastenders either. Afterwards but ive heard of no emmerdale. Heard of it. No no no emmerdale. No, we used to watch crossroads when was a child, which ruled when i was a child, which ruled out, um, which ruled out coronation street the same coronation street at the same time. Coronation street at the same tim yeah. Coronation street at the same timyeah. Okay coronation street at the same tim yeah. Okay fine. Coronation street at the same timyeah. Okay fine. Right. Yeah. Okay fine. Right. Richard um. Go on. What soaps do you watch . Uh im just a Great British bake off person , and british bake off person, and thats thats thats it for me. Getting ready for your wedding cake, obviously. Yeah, exactly. Queen never complain. Never explain. How the royals go explain. Now how the royals go into church over christmas. We also saw fergie back in the royal fold , walking along with royal fold, walking along with andrew. If there has been issues with harry and meghan, theres certainly issues and more issues coming up with Prince Andrew. Do you think that has tarnished the royal family i think the Prince Andrews story has has, but i think that the reaction of both the late queen and the king to this, which is to sort of take him out of the public role, obviously they went as a family to the Christmas Service , but was Christmas Service, but was taking him out from his hrh status and so on. Was the right decision. The royals, who are the most popular are the royals who adhere to that idea of duty , who adhere to that idea of duty, which i think is what the monarchy has evolved to become as an institution that is there to provide service and to promote different causes and people around the country, in the commonwealth and people like princess anne, uh, and quite frankly , the king himself. Um frankly, the king himself. Um they just get on with it and they just get on with it and they go out and they do that work and theyre modelling or their model for that is Queen Elizabeth the second when she died , the former labour prime died, the former labour Prime Minister of australia, paul keating , who was was actually keating, who was was actually a republican , but he gave his fair republican, but he gave his fair jews to Queen Elizabeth the second, where he said that she augned second, where he said that she aligned herself with the public realm and the public good and pubuc realm and the public good and public duty. And again, when public duty. And again, when there are members of the royal family who seem to stray from that, and its about private interest or private celebrity or or what benefits them in the moment. Those are the kind of moment. Those are the kind of people who will find themselves cut out of the family in, in the, in the extreme. But i think thats necessary for its survival as an institution. So cutting off harry and meghan, cutting off Prince Andrew would be the way to go. Andrew would be the way to go. Not, you know, not as members of the family. And they can be privately involved in the family, but in the public role of the family. I think that was the decision that had to be taken. And it was i think its proven to be the right one. How did you feel then . Um, daniel, that you saw Prince Andrew walking to church on Christmas Day with sarah ferguson, been there . On Christmas Day with sarah fthink n, been there . On Christmas Day with sarah fthink for been there . On Christmas Day with sarah fthink for what, been there . On Christmas Day with sarah fthink for what, since been there . On Christmas Day with sarah fthink for what, since the there . I think for what, since the early 90s . Well, how did i feel about it . Yeah. Well, you were you were you pleased to see that . Strangely enough, i didnt feel hugely excited one way or the about it. But the fact the other about it. But the fact is that the, the you know, you were talking about the family earlier if i can call the earlier on, if i can call the family is the yorks have clearly had, strange relationship. Had, um, a strange relationship. I mean, no, not strange an unusual relationship , um, since unusual relationship, um, since their divorce, because theyve sort of stayed semi married as far as they live in the same to house be fair, they have got an east wing and a west wing and really, can you, can you who can complain about that . I mean, the fact that two people are nominally divorced carry on nominally divorced but carry on being is surely a good being married is surely a good thing. Falling apart thing. Rather than falling apart in bitterness and having lots of quarrels. So i mean, as far as im concerned, yes , shes im concerned, yes, shes effectively his wife and if hes if hes there, she should be there as well. She hasnt done anything. Should he there anything. Should he be there though. Yeah. Think hes part though. Yeah. I think hes part of family. I think youve of the family. I think youve got to as richard says, i think there are there are occasions when , andrew be there when, um, andrew should be there. And i think both the late queen and the current king have made that absolutely clear, that he not being kicked out of he is not being kicked out of the that his public the family. Um, that his public role might have ceased , but hes role might have ceased, but hes not being kicked out of the family. And course, he was family. And of course, he was present um, know, at present, um, you know, at certain functions over the jubilee and whatever , um, that jubilee and whatever, um, that the queen approved and so forth. The queen approved and so forth. Um, and i think thats thats fine. Did you both watch it , by the did you both watch it, by the way, the kings christmas message i did, yes. Yes you did. Did you both watch strictly come dancing . No i missed that one, which was the second highest rated program, 7. 84 million. Watched the kings christmas message and 5. 29 million watched strictly come dancing. Next was strictly come dancing. Next was doctor who. If youre interested. I did watch doctor who. I did watch doctor who. Did you . Did you . Yeah, i was i remember the First Episode of doctor who. Im just old enough to have watched it as a child. I am a doctor who i remember that first it was in a it was in a sort of scrapyard. Yes. And you went into the scrapyard and i think its been lost that episode the lost now that episode by the bbc, lose a lot, didnt bbc, they did lose a lot, didnt they . Bbc, they did lose a lot, didnt the yeah, you go into the yeah, but you go into the scrapyard and was this scrapyard and there was this police box and a scrapyard, and you have two young people discoveringcourse, then theres and of course, then theres this who this elderly curmudgeon who comes out of it. And with long hair. William. Um it yes, hair. William. Um it was yes, i sort of remember it. You very much. Right. Thank you very much. Right. We on, right . We have to move on, right . We move on. No, we move on. But its getting better. Its getting better. Better. Its getting better. Better. Its getting better, right . How does champagne . Load. Champagne . By the pint load. Sound me. Sound good to me. The governments announced new imperial still imperial measures for still and sparkling wine. Are these the brexit bargained brexit freedoms we bargained for . Those suddenly uplands. Dont im dawn dont forget those. Im dawn neesom at britains neesom on gb news at britains news channel. Go too far. Welcome back. This is jubes and co with me. Dawn neesom. Uh, co with me. Dawn neesom. Uh, keeping me company until 7 00. And only if theyre very lucky will they stay until 7 00. Its conservative life peer in the house of lords. Daniel moylan. Thats that one. And senior politics lecturer at queen mary university, doctor richard johnson, never worked johnson, who has never worked doctor in his entire life. Doctor who in his entire life. Just get that one just thought id get that one in there. You actually there. So students, you actually may free to have a little may feel free to have a little word with him when you go back. Um, now, youve been getting in touch with all views. Im touch with all your views. Im going read them out on the going to read them out on the royal family, because last royal family, because the last thing um, ed, thing were discussing. Um, ed, good good evening, good afternoon or good evening, ed should the ed says we should put the existence of our royal family to a like brexit a vote. What like a brexit referendum thing . You know referendum type thing . You know where go. Dont where thats going to go. Dont you . Ifs where thats going to go. Dont you . Its going to go on forever and and ever. Meanwhile, and ever and ever. Meanwhile, alan of the alan says the power of the monarchy that while it monarchy is that while it exists, head of state is exists, our head of state is assured will never have a assured and we will never have a politically president politically biased president or, god despot like some god forbid, a despot like some in today cant think. In the world today cant think. Are you talking about there . Uh, martin king charles should martin says king charles should have crown william. Have hand the crown to william. Interesting. Oh wayne. Interesting. Um. Oh wayne. Youre happy, are you, youre not happy, are you, wayne . Um, i do not know anyone that respects the royal at that respects the royal folk at all. King charles is out of touch with everyone and a complete hypocrite. I think we complete hypocrite. I think we should have a glass of wine for that one, dont you . Right. Thank you so much for all your views. Now, a reminder we want to hear your thoughts as well as the read. Ive the ones ive just read. Ive got loads, but get in touch. We want more gb views gb news. Uk or gb news. Uk or twitter at gb news. Now fizz by the pint load post brexit licensing rules mean sparkling and still wine will be available by imperial measures from the new year. It was churchills ideal size to drink champagne in, but do you actually care to be honest with you . Now to get your head around this right, this is a normal bottle of wine at the moment. 75cl bottle of wine at the moment. 75cl. This is a pint glass, obviously. So churchill said this was too much. Half, half of this was too much. Half, half of a bottle was too little. But how much . What is this poured into that . How much do you actually get left in the bottle . Im not going to drink all this. By the way, if my mums watching. So what do we. What do we think about this one then . Um uh, richard to you, imperial richard begum to you, imperial imperial measures. Do we care . For the for the most i think, for the for the most part, mostly , no. When the part, mostly, no. When the government the consultation government did the consultation on this recently, the overwhelming response was dont change away from where we use metric measurements or indifferent use. I mean, there are certain places where, you know, particularly when it comes to the pint, that we still use for beer that were very familiar with. And we still get mixed things, dont we . Get comfortable with . Yeah. Um , comfortable with . Yeah. But, um, i mean, is when , when we i mean, this is when, when we moved away from imperial measures for, um, food items and dnnkin measures for, um, food items and drink in the it was actually really in the 90s after maastricht, where this most, most happened. And then there was that famous metric martyrs case, the sunderland case in the early 2000. I think the issue there was that traders were not being allowed to make a choice about whether to list in metric or imperial or both, and 30, 20, 30 years ago, there were very substantial proportion of the population who had grown up with one. And then felt alienated when that when on they felt that that their traders couldnt just advertise in the in the measures that spoke to their clientele. I that spoke to their clientele. I think things have changed so much now that most people are quite comfortable with the with the new system , so to speak. And the new system, so to speak. And so i think most people are this is not in my view, this is not a major decisive reason for or against being in the european union. Daniel. I mean , ive just daniel. I mean, ive just ive just discovered that basically. But if you do ive just discovered that basically. But if you do pour a big bottle of wine into a pint glass, theres not an awful lot left in the bottle. You havent filled up the pint glass instantly. Well, its not a pint until it gets to the top. Well, it depends on the pint glass. Oh. Does it . It depends on whether theres a mark around it. Well, a it. Is there . Well, youre a barmaid. N barmaid. I was a long time well, once i was a long time ago, a barmaid. Right. Right. Yeah. Barmaid. Yeah. Yeah. Barmaid. Yeah. Okay. Thats. Well, you can identify whatever want. Identify as whatever you want. I was indeed. Was once indeed. I wasnt actually. I wasnt actually. A pint mark and theres a pint mark on there. Youre splitting there. Any case youre splitting hairs. A lot left in hairs. Theres not a lot left in the bottle. So does it actually matter . Are we getting our knickers . Oh, it doesnt matter what matters that had matters today is that weve had an announcement that the government has done a the Civil Service run Consultation Service has run a consultation with number with a relatively small number of trade of sort of trade trade organisations that are bound to be make change anything be dont make change anything because we dont want, we dont care were miserable, a care and were miserable, owed a bunch miseries hate bunch of miseries and we hate everything and has come back and said, oh, nobody wants go. Said, oh, nobody wants to go. Nobody the nobody wants to do what the government going to government said it was going to do. Amazingly what the do. Amazingly thats what the civil always says when Civil Service always says when they consultations. And they do consultations. And how is the government responded to that . Oh, thats all that . They said, oh, thats all right. It. Well, we right. We wont do it. Well, we will we will do it for will do it. We will do it for one thing, which do it one thing, which is well do it for pints, pint bottles, not pint glasses, pint glasses, as you already nobodys you know, its already nobodys going pint of going to order a pint of chardonnay, but you know, well do bottles of do it for pint bottles of champagne wine. But of champagne and wine. But then, of course, make course, somebody has to make those pint bottles and sell it, so will never actually so this will never actually happen. Youll ever see happen. I doubt youll ever see pint the shelves this pint bottles on the shelves this is completely manufactured pint bottles on the shelves this is cset letely manufactured pint bottles on the shelves this is cset up ely manufactured pint bottles on the shelves this is cset up to manufactured pint bottles on the shelves this is cset up to maskaactured pint bottles on the shelves this is cset up to mask the ured story set up to mask the governments timidity and its retreat face of the civil retreat in the face of the Civil Service. Taking over the running of i think thats of this country. I think thats what i think. Actually do think you will i actually do think you will see produce see some manufacturers produce these , because i these pint glass, because i cant bottles, sorry. These pint bottles , plenty of pint glasses bottles, plenty of pint glasses around. Yeah, sorry. Around. Yeah, sorry. I think i actually think were not even going to have time to drink this now. Weve run of time. Um youve run out of time. Um but youve only brought one glass. If you bought three, wed have drunk it last. Straws. In any case, thank straws. In any case, thank you so much for watching tonight. Im actually at tonight. Im actually back at 6 00 up next is nigel 6 00 tomorrow. Up next is nigel farage. And taking a look back at some of his favourite moments from pints. Speak of the from talking pints. Speak of the devil. Brighter outlook with boxt solar of weather on. Gb news. Hello again. Its Aidan Mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast. It stays wet and windy over the next 24 hours, but not as wet or as windy. The rain turns more showery and the hill snow in the far north also eases , but low pressure stays with us. Storm gareth was named because of the very treacherous conditions weve seen across northern scotland during the last 12 to 18 hours, and there will continue to be some heavy rain and hill snow across the northern isles, along with 80 mile hour wind gusts. For mile per hour wind gusts. For a time overnight. Elsewhere across the country, stays windy. The the country, it stays windy. The rain turns to showers the rain turns to showers and the bulk showers will be in bulk of the showers will be in the clear spells the west, with some clear spells further east, but with bit further east, but with a bit battery overnight its not battery feel. Overnight its not going to be a particularly chilly start thursday. Having chilly start to thursday. Having said stays cold across said that, it stays cold across scotland with further hill snow expected into the day on thursday. Outbreaks of rain at lower and certainly lower levels and certainly plenty or longer plenty of showers or longer spells of rain elsewhere across the country. The spells rain the country. The spells of rain will be interspersed by brighter intervals, not going to intervals, and its not going to be as windy has been be quite as windy as it has been dunng be quite as windy as it has been during the last 24 hours, with wind 40 to 50 miles an wind gusts of 40 to 50 miles an hour, wind gusts of 40 to 50 miles an hour , 12 celsius in the south, 5 hour, 12 celsius in the south, 5 to 8 further north. So staying chilly across scotland and friday starts off bright in many places , particularly towards places, particularly towards central and south eastern parts of the country, but therell be further cloud and outbreaks of rain elsewhere. Again, hills, snow or even snow to lower levels across northern scotland snow or even snow to lower leveinto ross northern scotland snow or even snow to lower leveinto the northern scotland snow or even snow to lower leveinto the weekend. Scotland snow or even snow to lower leveinto the weekend. Some nd snow or even snow to lower leveinto the weekend. Some heavy and into the weekend. Some heavy hill snow in the north, whilst elsewhere well see wet and windy weather. Looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Good evening, youre with gb. News, Police Scotland have declared a Major Incident urging drivers stuck in snow on the a9 in particular to remain in their vehicles. Footage circulating on social media shows cars stranded across the highlands. This is before snow. Snow ploughs were before snow. Snow ploughs were able to start clearing away through and getting drivers out of that area. Well, its all of that area. Well, its all down to storm garrett , which has down to storm garrett, which has also meant that power cut to 18,500 homes in scotland