Discussion. It needs to be had for the benefit of all mankind. And finally, and most importantly, i want to hear from you. Views way. You. Send your views my way. Vaiews gbnews. Uk. Thats all coming up after headlines with tatiana sanchez. Lawrence, thank tatiana sanchez. Lawrence, thank you and tatiana sanchez. Lawrence, thank you and good tatiana sanchez. Lawrence, thank you and good evening. F lawrence, thank you and good evening. This is the you and good evening. This is the latest you and good evening. This is the latest from you and good evening. This is the latest from the newsroom. Passengers the latest from the newsroom. Passengers have the latest from the newsroom. Passengers have faced widespread disruption passengers have faced widespread disruption today passengers have faced widespread disruption today due to the latest disruption today due to the latest round disruption today due to the latest round of disruption today due to the latest round of train strikes. Latest round of train strikes. Members latest round of train strikes. Members ef latest round of train strikes. Members of the latest round of train strikes. Members of the aslef union are walking members of the aslef union are walkingmere members of the aslef union are walkingmore than members of the aslef union are walking more than a dozen walking out at more than a dozen trem walking out at more than a dozen train operators walking out at more than a dozen train operators in walking out at more than a dozen train operators in long train operators in a long running train operators in a long running dispute pay. Running dispute over pay. Tomorrow, rmt members go on seeke tomorrow, rmt members go on strike en tomorrow, rmt members go on strtte err tre tomorrow, rmt members go on strike on the day tomorrow, rmt members go on strike on the day of the eurovision strike on the day of the Eurovision Song Contest final in ttrerpeet Eurovision Song Contest final in ttverpeet. Eurovision song contest final in liverpool. Further Eurovision Song Contest final in liverpool. Further strikes by liverpool. Further strikes by the liverpool. Further strikes by the utter liverpool. Further strikes by the union will liverpool. Further strikes by the union will be held on the erst the union will be held on the erst et the union will be held on the erst et trey the union will be held on the 31st of may and the union will be held on the 31st of may and june 3rd. Thats the day 31st of may and june 3rd. Thats the try et 31st of may and june 3rd. Thats the try et tree 31st of may and june 3rd. Thats the day of the fa 31st of may and june 3rd. Thats the day of the fa cup final in wemblev the day of the fa cup final in wembley. Rail the day of the fa cup final in wembley. Rail minister huw rrerrtmuu wembley. Rail minister huw merriman told wembley. Rail minister huw merriman told gb news the strttes merriman told gb news the strttes ee merriman told gb news the strikes are disappointing. � ftt� rz; strikes are disappointing. We true strikes are disappointing. We true teen strikes are disappointing. We have been able strikes are disappointing. We have been able to strikes are disappointing. We have been able to facilitate an offer which has been put to the Union Leaders and the problem weve got is that they wont put it forward to their members. Similar offers have put similar offers have been put forward members of forward to other members of unions accepted unions and theyve accepted them. Logic would dictate if them. So logic would dictate if them. So logic would dictate if the Union Leaders did the same, we could see an end to this action. And im really sorry for all passengers been all passengers who have been disrupted today. Meanwhile, ttstt disrupted today. Meanwhile, ttstt suret disrupted today. Meanwhile, rishi sunak says disrupted today. Meanwhile, rishi sunak says hes rishi sunak says hes disappointed with the decision to disappointed with the decision te treet disappointed with the decision to block ukrainian president vtettmtr to block ukrainian president Vladimir Zelenskyy from ettresstug Vladimir Zelenskyy from addressing the Eurovision Song Contest. Addressing the Eurovision Song Contest. Rte addressing the Eurovision Song Contest. The block is due to concerns from contest. The block is due to concerns from organisers that an address concerns from organisers that an address eeutt concerns from organisers that an address could politicise the event address could politicise the event. Address could politicise the event. Rte address could politicise the event. The ukrainian president event. The ukrainian president wettest event. The ukrainian president ueutet te event. The ukrainian president wanted to urge event. 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It follows reports an internal investigation into one case of groping investigation into one case of groptrsg storms investigation into one case of groping claims took three years to somptete. Groping claims took three years to oomptete. Ru groping claims took three years to complete. In a groping claims took three years to complete. In a separate case, a to complete. In a separate case, o totour to complete. In a separate case, o totour rur to complete. In a separate case, a labour mp has to complete. In a separate case, a labour mp has reported one of her potty a labour mp has reported one of her Party Colleagues to the oottee her Party Colleagues to the pottee tor her Party Colleagues to the police for alleged sexual ossoutt police for alleged sexual ossoutt. Police for alleged sexual assault. Sir police for alleged sexual assault. Sir keir starmer is urging assault. Sir keir starmer is urgtng nyone assault. Sir keir starmer is urging anyone within the party nttn urging anyone within the party with concerns urging anyone within the party with concerns to urging anyone within the party with concerns to come forward. Wett with concerns to come forward. Rrett toot, with concerns to come forward. Rrett toot, r with concerns to come forward. Well look, i think with concerns to come forward. Well look, i think all of these ottegottons well look, i think all of these allegations have well look, i think all of these allegations have to be taken extrenety allegations have to be taken extremely seriously and they are token extremely seriously and they are taken seriously extremely seriously and they are taken seriously by extremely seriously and they are taken seriously by me and by the partv taken seriously by me and by the pony. R taken seriously by me and by the pony. R to taken seriously by me and by the party. I do understand taken seriously by me and by the party. C. Party. I do understand from my experience as chief prosecutor how difficult it is for people to come forward. And thats to come forward. And thats among the reasons that we made our process completely independent. So its not a political process anymore. What i would say is that i encourage anybody to come forward and to feel that their supported through that independent process. A man has been convicted of tne. A man has been convicted of tne reste. A man has been convicted of the 1992 murder. A man has been convicted of the 1992 murder of a man has been convicted of the 1992 murder of seven year old the 1992 murder of seven year ott utttt the 1992 murder of seven year old nikki allen the 1992 murder of seven year old nikki allen in the 1992 murder of seven year old nikki allen in sunderland. 55 old nikki allen in sunderland. St year old nikki allen in sunderland. St year ott old nikki allen in sunderland. 55 year old david old nikki allen in sunderland. 55 year old david boyd was neonne 55 year old david boyd was neonne o 55 year old david boyd was neonne o t 55 year old david boyd was wearing a t shirt saying, i am unstoppatte wearing a t shirt saying, i am unstoppable. During one of his nonse unstoppable. During one of his Police Interviews unstoppable. During one of his Police Interviews until now. 30 years Police Interviews until now. 30 years net Police Interviews until now. 30 years on, hed escaped justice. Uortnuntno years on, hed escaped justice. Northumbria police first prosecuted Northumbria Police first prosecuted the wrong man who was steered prosecuted the wrong man who was oteoret otter prosecuted the wrong man who was oteoret otter o prosecuted the wrong man who was cleared after a trial prosecuted the wrong man who was cleared after a trial in 1993. Cleared after a trial in 1993. Ant cleared after a trial in 1993. Ant tron cleared after a trial in 1993. And elon musk cleared after a trial in 1993. And elon musk has named linda roeeonno and elon musk has named linda roeeonno os and elon musk has named Linda Yaccarino as the and elon musk has named Linda Yaccarino as the new ceo at nutter yaccarino as the new ceo at tuttter , yaccarino as the new ceo at twitter , following over six twitter, following over six nontns twitter, following over six nontns ot twitter, following over six months of his twitter, following over six months of his leadership. Musk tneetet months of his leadership. Musk tneetet tne months of his leadership. Musk tweeted the former Nbc Universal otventstng tweeted the former Nbc Universal advertising chief tweeted the former Nbc Universal advertising chief will focus pnnonty advertising chief will focus pnnontyon advertising chief will focus primarily on Business Operations unttst primarily on Business Operations unttst ne primarily on Business Operations whilst he will primarily on Business Operations whilst he will take on the new rote whilst he will take on the new rote os whilst he will take on the new role as chief whilst he will take on the new role as chief technology officer. Tne role as chief technology officer. Tne ne role as chief technology officer. The new boss role as chief technology officer. The new boss will start her rote. The new boss will start her rote tn. The new boss will start her rote tn str. The new boss will start her role in six weeks. The new boss will start her role in six weeks time. Tv role in six weeks time. Tv onttne role in six weeks time. Tv online dab role in six weeks time. Tv online dab radio and on tune in. Online dab radio and on tune tn. Tnts online dab radio and on tune tn. Tnts ts online dab radio and on tune tn. Tnts ts en online dab radio and on tune in. This is gb news. Now its toot in. This is gb news. Now its test to in. This is gb news. Now its back to lawrence in. This is gb news. Now its back to lawrence. Back to lawrence. I many back to lawrence. I many moons back to lawrence. Many moons ago, before the world into full bozo the world went into full bozo the clown mode , we were mostly in clown mode, we were mostly in agreement that the kind and caring labour party existed to fight for the rights of the working man and woman whilst the greedy and uncaring conservative party existed to lounge around bathing in calves, milk and quaffing flutes of pol roger as the poor starved to death. This the poor starved to death. This delicate balance held society together pretty well because it tended to encapsulate most of the political spectrum. And if you found yourself to be politically fluid and werent sure how you identified on any given day, there was always the lib dems. But our friends in the real communism hasnt been tried yet. Crew are nothing if not resilient in their desire to immiserate the entirety of mankind and one day they came up with a cunning plan. What if they schemed to themselves instead of harping on about socioeconomic and class divides which are real and debilitating societal problems . What if we create a new grievance hierarchy based solely around skin colour . We can stick the terribly white people at the top and the terribly black people at the bottom. Then then wherever you go, youll be able to tell how oppressed someone is just by looking at them. They all patted themselves on the back and returned to their favourite task of civilisation of dismantling civilisation as we. There were a few we know it. There were a few snagging issues though too. This cunning plan one being where to put someone like Oprah Winfrey or Meghan Markle or Lewis Hamilton on the list. Or Meghan Markle or Lewis Hamilton on the list. Privileged hamilton on the list. Privileged black people who have through hard work in some cases, and narcissistic gaslighting in others won the lottery of life. Where do they fit on this giant grievance hierarchy compared to, say, a supremely white, privileged working class kid from rotherham who will never go to university and whose Life Opportunities are now bleaker than owing to the fact that than ever owing to the fact that bonng than ever owing to the fact that boring old things like social mobility have given way to the power melanin. Meghan and power of melanin. Meghan and louis and oprah are still oppressed , even though they are oppressed, even though they are million billionaires. Yes, million and billionaires. Yes, comes resounding reply. You comes a resounding reply. You have the mystical white privilege, you see, and if you dont see it, then guess what . Altogether now youre a racist. This cunning plan took britain quite by surprise. Britain being a mostly tolerant , a mostly tolerant, accommodating, rather polite place , frequently ranking as one place, frequently ranking as one of the loveliest countries to live in on earth. Just last week, we got a clean bill of anti racist health from the world values study. Well done us. So when master racism finder after the good dr. Shola plonked herself on any morning tv sofa that would have her and started conjuring racism out of thin air decent hearted brits couldnt fall over themselves fast enough to apologise profusely for whatever she was moaning, was moaning , was whatever she was moaning, was moaning, was racist that whatever she was moaning, was moaning , was racist that week. Moaning, was racist that week. Then when they dutifully proceeded to queue up round the block for unconscious bias bias training, looking deeply into their hearts to see if they were actually racist, but hadnt spotted it yet. The grift has spotted it yet. The grift has gathered pace and an entire new class of non job race commissars infiltrated our National Institutions and corporations to make sure that the exact amount of diversity was enforced in all areas of life. And when i say diversity, i dont mean the fun kind, like what goes on in your heart and your soul. I mean, the really terribly boring kind. Like what colour your skin happened to be when you were born. Skin, good light born. Dark skin, good light skin, bad. And just like that, skin, bad. And just like that, the entire meritocratic system upon which society had previously depended vanished and was replaced with racialism. Was replaced with racialism. Its exactly the same as communism or socialism. Its just uses skin colour to get to the utopia instead. Us the the utopia instead. Us the illusion of capitalism remains. But what dominates is the power and the control where a black woman can sit smugly on a chair overlooking the paris during the coronation, spouting racist drivel about how terribly white the balcony was to mostly nodding fawning fools terribly white. What an appalling thing to say. She wont be sanctioned to say. She wont be sanctioned in any way. There will be no in any way. There will be no apologies forthcoming. The bbc apologies forthcoming. The bbc nortje thon will go absolutely. Nortje thon will go absolutely. But heres an idea. Nortje thon will go absolutely. But heres an idea. Try swapping but heres an idea. Try swapping the word black for white and see how you get on with some of their terminology. Hows how you get on with some of their terminology. Hows your black privilege coming along . Youre just full of black fragility and bored of your black tears. You know what i mean . Get the drift. Racism so, right. Where do we go from here . The ever simmering resentment at this subjugation of one part of the population to another. What about black people who dont want to play ball with this racist claptrap . Jim crow in reverse ridiculousness foisted upon by middle class, upon everybody by middle class, white, liberal, saviours . Well, white, liberal, saviours . Well, there is some good news. As always, with friends on the always, with our friends on the left. They overreach and have left. They overreach and have left a rather large loophole in their inconsistent ideology that we are. Suppressors can all hop we are. Suppressors can all hop through. Its called identity through. Its called identity politics and you can identify how the hell you like. Be a woman. If i wanted you can identify however you like in that clown world. So all of us are oppressors. All we need to do lob a sample of dna to one of the ancestry websites. Cross the ancestry websites. Cross your fingers, wait for the results , and theres every results, and theres every chance youll be least 3. Chance youll be at least 3. Ugandan buy yourself something a bit tribal. Change your name to bit tribal. Change your name to a nosey bobs your uncle. We could put an end to this divisive rubbish in a minute or we could flip open a bible. Go to acts 17, verse 26, and remind ourselves of the truth. And he ourselves of the truth. And he hath made of one blood all nafions hath made of one blood all nations of men. Right . Youre nations of men. Right . Youre watching, listening to gb news. Coming up, i will be speaking with Bushra Sheikh and Narinder Kaur about race and identity politics. I have a feeling it could get quite heated. Possibly, but next, ben habib, former london mayor former mep for london and mayor of member of of the reform party member of the party. Not mayor ben the reform party. 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And former mep for tonoon reform party. And former mep for tonoon ten reform party. And former mep for london, ben obe reform party. And former mep for london, ben obe. Reform party. And former mep for london, ben obe. Ben, before we london, ben obe. Ben, before we get to london, ben obe. Ben, before we get to on london, ben obe. Ben, before we get to on migration london, ben obe. Ben, before we get to on migration madness. Get to on migration madness. Totes get to on migration madness. Atex tnttttos get to on migration madness. Alex phillips yeah , lovely, Alex Phillips yeah, lovely, tovety Alex Phillips yeah, lovely, toyety tooy. Alex phillips yeah, lovely, lovely lady. 43 . Alex phillips yeah, lovely, lovely lady, exit . sat Alex Phillips yeah, lovely, lovely lady. 43 . Sat there. Lovely lady. Yeah. Sat there. Wnot lovely lady. Yeah. Sat there. Wnot os lovely lady. Yeah. Sat there. Wnot rte lovely lady. 43 . Sat there. What was it . Politics lovely lady. sat there. What was it . 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So know, of people, absolute and never brwas a very unfortunate know, of people, absolute and never brwas a very unfortunate turnw, it was a very unfortunate turn in that the debate took last night , obviously, for alex night, obviously, for Alex Phillips. But also it completely undermined the debate. They were having, which would have been quite a good debate. Alex is incredibly knowledgeable, as youll on the youll appreciate, on the subject , and he absolutely subject, and he just absolutely browbeat her to the point that it just became a shouting match. 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So you know, he was so you know, he was fundamentally wrong and dont fundamentally wrong and i dont know much viewers know how much the viewers want to this , the detail to know about this, the detail of it, but the debate right now is over 4000 eu regulations. And is over 4000 eu regulations. And i say regulations, not laws. I say regulations, not laws. These are 4000 eu regulations is on our statute books which rishi sunak promised he would ditch within the first 100 days of being Prime Minister. And hes not going to do it and hes not going to do it to do so. Hes hated and doesnt going to do it to do so. Hes hated and doesnt get grit g r r r e r r r hes hated and doesnt get to. r hated and doesnt get to. And kent. Hated and doesnt get to. And kent. Kenn hated and doesnt get to. And kemi, kemi said, hated and doesnt get to. And kemi, kemi said, well, the Civil Service are too much to deal with, so im going to not do these things. But you need to know what eu regulations are. Eu regulations are not something know what eu regulations are. Eu regu parliamentnot something know what eu regulations are. Eu regu parliament hadiomething know what eu regulations are. Eu regu parliament hadion saying know what eu regulations are. Eu regu parliament hadionsayingeu that parliament had to say in eu regulations made in regulations were made in brussels. Finally in brussels, and then foisted verbatim on every Single Member state in the eu. So these laws that we have suit entirely arnie the eu. They dont suit the British National interest. One iota. They were created by the eu for the eu. So when Alastair Campbell said to alex and he shouted it down that these were debated in parliament and parliament accepted them, he is 100 wrong. Well, yeah. I is 100 wrong. Well, yeah. I mean we, we never dd cr . I mean we, we never expected him to te mean we, we never expected him to te onytntno mean we, we never expected him to be anything other than what he. 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Were now looking at a ntttton peopte country. Were now looking at a Million People. What happened to rent Million People. What happened to rent ont Million People. What happened to brexit and reclaiming our borders brexit and reclaiming our borders. It brexit and reclaiming our borders. It is brexit and reclaiming our borders. It is a brexit and reclaiming our borders. E ratio borders. It is a complete shocker. So david cameron, if shocker. So david cameron, if you can cast your mind as far back as that, i try not to think about to go past him in run in hyde park. And im like, but he soro hyde park. And im like, but he soto neo hyde park. And im like, but he said hed have ct and im like, but he said hed have numbers down t t i. And im like, but he said hed have numbers down to the said hed have numbers down to tne ton said hed have numbers down to tne ton ten. Said hed have numbers down to tne ton ten. You said hed have numbers down to the low ten, you know, 10,000 a yeor the low ten, you know, 10,000 a yeor ont the low ten, you know, 10,000 a year and brexit the low ten, you know, 10,000 a year and brexit was the low ten, you know, 10,000 a year and brexit was the opponuntty year and brexit was the opportunity and indeed the orontse opportunity and indeed the prontse to opportunity and indeed the promise to take back control of our promise to take back control of torters promise to take back control of touroroers. Promise to take back control of our borders. We promise to take back control of our borders. � ttttttti uttiii git t; promise to take back control of our borders. � ttttttti uttiti git t; our borders. We were going to get a points based skills , get a points based skills, immigration policy put in place, which, to be fair to boris johnson, he did do. But he said the skill base so low that weve got unbridled immigration. Last got unbridled immigration. Last year we had half a million. The running average before covid and lockdowns was about 350,000 a yeah lockdowns was about 350,000 a year. Last year we had half a million and people blamed it on a backlog from lockdowns. Well, this year were going to have near a million. It is it is near on a million. It is it is our borders completely out of control. So its no wonder that both Illegal Migrants and legal migration an are just completely through the roof. Weve got a government that simply doesnt know how to govern. And its know how to govern. And its shocking. And, you know, lets shocking. And, you know, lets just put this into context. Just just put this into context. Just 1. 5 Million People will take up 300,000 houses. Thats about a one. And a half years worth of new house supply. Weve already new house supply. Weve already got a housing shortage. What do you think 1. 5 Million People does to the nhs, which is already broken waiting lists of 7. 5 million versus 3 million post lockdown. What do you think it to schooling and all the post lockdown. What do you think it of to schooling and all the post lockdown. What do you think it of it . Ihooling and all the post lockdown. What do you think it of it . I want� ig and all the post lockdown. What do you think it of it . I want to and all the post lockdown. What do you think it of it . I want to take all the post lockdown. What do you think it of it . I want to take it the rest of it . I want to take it runner rest of it . I want to take it further than rest of it . I want to take it further than that. title fl i want to take it further than that. Yeah, and you connot further than that. Yeah, and you eonnot nove further than that. Yeah, and you eonnot note o further than that. Yeah, and you cannot have a culture so unrenttttno cannot have a culture so unremitting replaced. Im so erot unremitting replaced. Im so otoo youe unremitting replaced. Im so glad youve taken it. To me. Tnots glad youve taken it. To me. Tnots o glad youve taken it. To me. Tnots o tott glad youve taken it. To me. Thats a bit terrifies me. So otso thats a bit terrifies me. So otso. Onot thats a bit terrifies me. So also, what we thats a bit terrifies me. So also, what we do thats a bit terrifies me. So also, what we do is same with tne also, what we do is same with tne note also, what we do is same with the woke thing, also, what we do is same with the woke thing, calling eyerytooy the woke thing, calling eyerytooy o the woke thing, calling everybody a racist. Its like you everybody a racist. Its like you just everybody a racist. Its like you just tet everybody a racist. Its like you just let all everybody a racist. Its like you just let all the racists run tree you just let all the racists run tree untte. You just let all the racists run free while. Whereas by letting eyerytooy free while. Whereas by letting eyerytooy tnto free while. Whereas by letting everybody into a free while. Whereas by letting everybody into a country, youre not everybody into a country, yourei not retuoees not letting the genuine refugees and not letting the genuine refugees one outttes and the and the publics confidence and the and the publics confidence immigration confidence in the immigration system confidence in the immigration. System massively system is going to be massively otntntsneo. System is going to be massively diminishedhate system is going to be massively diminished. Hate to say diminished. And i hate to say it, diminished. And i hate to say ttltn diminished. And i hate to say ttltn ootno diminished. And i hate to say ttltn ootnolsoy diminished. And i hate to say it, im going say it. It, but im going to say it. I teet it, but im going to say it. I teet ute it, but im going to say it. I teet ttte ny it, but im going to say it. I feel like my culture is being reotoeeo feel like my culture is being reptoeeo tn feel like my culture is being replaced in front of my eyes. Ano replaced in front of my eyes. Ant every replaced in front of my eyes. And every time replaced in front of my eyes. And every time i replaced in front of my eyes. And every time i go, ive got a stront and every time i go, ive got a stunt protten and every time i go, ive got a slight problem with, you know, guvst slight problem with, you know, guys, guys slight problem with, you know, guyst guysto slight problem with, you know, guys, guys to scale, guys, guys trying to scale, unten guys, guys trying to scale, which happened in north west leicestershire. Leicestershire. A guy tried to store leicestershire. A guy tried to storetense leicestershire. A guy tried to scale fence primary scale the fence of a primary senoot scale the fence of a primary senoot. Scale the fence of a primary school. Immigrant was school. An immigrant who was turno school. An immigrant who was tunenote. School. An immigrant who was living hotel. Illegal living in the hotel. Illegal ttteoot living in the hotel. Illegal ttteootouy living in the hotel. Illegal illegal. Guy doesnt illegal. This guy doesnt understand illegal. This guy doesnt understand. | illegal. This guy doesnt understand. Our understand my culture. Our suture. Understand my culture. Ourj culture. Doesnt culture. Our culture doesnt notter culture. Our culture doesnt mattercolour. Culture. Our culture doesnti mattercolour you culture. Our culture doesnt mattercolour you are matter what skin colour you are or tntnos matter what skin colour you are or tntnos tts or any of these things. Its otsotute or any of these things. Its absolute terrifying. And why is it absolute terrifying. And why is. Tt ootno it conservative government doing otsotutety absolutely nothing about it . So this absolutely nothing about it . So tntoits absolutely nothing about it . So thisits such absolutely nothing about it . So thisits such its absolutely nothing about it . So thisits such its such absolutely nothing about it . So thisits such its such an. This is a its such its such an important point because all the points that i made about housing, infrastructure and all the can at least the rest of it, you can at least economic some point over economic at some point get over that. What cant get over is that. What you cant get over is the complete destruction of british values, british heritage. And as you say, our culture and what we dont do in this country , motty is country, motty is multiculturalism. We dont do it multiculturalism. We dont do it well. What happens . What tends well. What happens . What tends to happen is people come into the country, they retire into their little enclaves. They continue with whatever their culture was from wherever they came. And they dont assimilate. They dont, for example , i. They dont, for example, i imagine swear allegiance to the king last saturday. And without assimilation, without an integrate , an without the best integrate, an without the best of all cultures coming to the fore, what youre going to get and what were beginning to see quite in the open is a fractured society and cultural isolation, cultural isolation. And moreover , for and i know youre more aware of this than i am, but moreover , you get a you get moreover, you get a you get a situation where the minorities are now threatening the majority because if you dont accept and champion their values , youre champion their values, youre seen as somehow inherent racist. Well, its a very dangerous tttno well, its a very dangerous tntno. Tnouon. Well, its a very dangerous thing, though, because if on the stee thing, though, because if on the one side culture thing, though, because if on the one side culture is thing, though, because if on the one side culture is so unconfident one side culture is so unconfident in itself, britain is unconfident in itself, britain ts so unconfident in itself, britain is so unconfident in itself, it goes. Is so unconfident in itself, it goes. Ne is so unconfident in itself, it goes. We note is so unconfident in itself, it goes, we have to is so unconfident in itself, it goes, we have to we have to tnetuoe goes, we have to we have to tnetuoe tts goes, we have to we have to include its all goes, we have to we have to include its all about inclusion. Include its all about inclusion. What you end up tnetuotno inclusion. What you end up tnetuotno ts inclusion. What you end up including is a inclusion. What you end up including is a bunch of nutcases , vou including is a bunch of nutcases. You know. Including is a bunch of nutcases. You know. Tn including is a bunch of nutcases , you know, in terms of people tnot , you know, in terms of people no stt , you know, in terms of people that sit there , you know, in terms of people that sit there go, , you know, in terms of people that sit there go, i , you know, in terms of people that sit there go, i want to put nut that sit there go, i want to put nut tts that sit there go, i want to put on. But its not that sit there go, i want to put on. But its not about inclusion. On. But its not about inclusion. But its not about tnetuston inclusion. But its not about inclusion exclusion. Inclusion exclusion. Its about exoustont inclusion exclusion. Its about exclusion. Its about the promotion of and other promotion of ethnic and other minorities the exclusion of minorities at the exclusion of white people, essentially white people. Thats what it is. But its not just white people, teouse its not just white people, teouse you its not just white people, because you would fit into that circumstance because you would fit into that circumstance now because you would fit into that circumstance now because you are ono circumstance now because you are oneestotttsneo circumstance now because you are and established brit. And youre an established brit. I and youre an established brit. T wouto and youre an established brit. I would accuse. And youre an established brit. I would accuse of i know people would accuse me of tetno i know people would accuse me of tetnoewen i know people would accuse me of beingeven though i know people would accuse me of being even though im being racist, even though im tnoetwoort being racist, even though im knockwood, that knockwood, you know, people that are knockwood, you know, people that ore got knockwood, you know, people that ore got notntno knockwood, you know, people that are got nothing to are british, its got nothing to do are british, its got nothing to to wttn are british, its got nothing to to wttn sttn are british, its got nothing to do with skin colour. Never has. Us do with skin colour. Never has. Ttsleutturot do with skin colour. Never has. Itslcultural issue. Do with skin colour. Never has. Its cultural issue. Were its a cultural issue. Were a wonoertutty its a cultural issue. Were a wonderfully multiracial country, but wonderfully multiracial country, tutterrttte but were terrible at multiculturalism beyond the toteowoy multiculturalism beyond the takeaway. So what restaurants . Wrot takeaway. So what restaurants . Wnot ts takeaway. So what restaurants . Wnot ts. Takeaway. So what restaurants . Wnot ts. Ts takeaway. So what restaurants . What is , is ejectl what we have to do is, is eject woke a general policy for woke as a general policy for government. And im afraid woke is a thing in government and when labour party says the when the labour party says the tories have got to stop fighting the wars, actually the the culture wars, actually the tory party has to get a grip of the fighting the culture war, start fighting the culture war, start fighting the doing it, the culture, start doing it, start is start defending what is inherently british. Theyve got start defending what is inidozntly british. Theyve got start defending what is inido ittly british. Theyve got start defending what is inido it and ritish. Theyve got start defending what is inido it and you1. Theyve got start defending what is inido it and you know, tve got start defending what is inido it and you know, thisjot to do it and you know, this hijacking of our society by woke is undermining our self confidence. Its undermining our position as a country and its got to stop right in the interest of balance, because why not . Because weve got to be totoneeo. Because weve got to be balanced. Thank you, mr ofcom. Rotrontse balanced. Thank you, mr ofcom. Rotrontse your balanced. Thank you, mr ofcom. Patronise your public in the tnterests patronise your public in the interests of patronise your public in the interests of balance. Who . You ono interests of balance. Who . You on t interests of balance. Who . You on t oe interests of balance. Who . You on t tust interests of balance. Who . You and i are just both white supremacists. � tttttttill and i are just both white supremacists. Well, im certainly not white. Im half. But youre not seeing in america wnen but youre not seeing in america wnen tneyre but youre not seeing in america when theyre theyre when theyre when theyre ntsnonte when theyre when theyre hispanicall. When theyre when theyrei hispanicall the hispanic guy killed all the peopte hispanic guy killed all the peoptenott hispanic guy killed all the people mall tragically people at the mall tragically in anetteo wos people at the mall tragically in america, was an. America, they said it was an example america, they said it was an example whiteness. So example of whiteness. So wntteness example of whiteness. So whiteness specific whiteness now is not specific to sun whiteness now is not specific to sunanyone whiteness now is not specific to skin anyone can skin colour. Anyone can onytntno. Skin colour. Anyone can anything. Anyone who goes out ono anything. Anyone who goes out onotout anything. Anyone who goes out onotout o anything. Anyone who goes out onotout o gun anything. Anyone who goes out and out a gun and kills and pulls out a gun and kills peopte and pulls out a gun and killsi peopte ttoet. People, whether theyre black, wntte people, whether theyre black, white colour, people, whether theyre black, white colour, itsl white or any other colour, its an white or any other colour, its on wntte white or any other colour, its an white supremacy. An example of white supremacy. Wett an example of white supremacy. Wowto an example of white supremacy. Wortto ne an example of white supremacy. Well,to me that an example of white supremacy. Well,to me that if an example of white supremacy. Well, to me that if you. Well, it seems to me that if you hold anything other than white people with, know, with a people with, you know, with a degree suspicion and, you degree of suspicion and, you know, possibly loathing, unless you view , you are you adopt that view, you are basically a white racist. And basically a white racist. And people accuse Suella Braverman who is doing her best to control the illegal migration, doing absolutely right that she calls it an invasion. Thats what it is. They accused suella of being a racist. Suella is not a racist. Shes just trying to do the right thing by their own woke orthodoxy. She cant be a rootst woke orthodoxy. She cant be a racist because woke orthodoxy. She cant be a racist because you woke orthodoxy. She cant be a racist because you cant she cant be a racist because you cant be rootst racist because you cant be roostnut racist because you cant be racistbut she racist because you cant be racist but she doesnt say racist in. But she doesnt say tne racist in. But she doesnt say tnetnot racist in. But she doesnt say tnetnot tney racist in. But she doesnt say the that they to| the things that they want to neon the things that they want to neor. Wett the things that they want to hear. Well, shes not politically hear. Well, shes not politically of colour. Oh, tnots politically of colour. Oh, thatsother politically of colour. Oh, thats other isnt thats the other problem, isnt it . Thats the other problem, isnt rtewere thats the other problem, isnt it . Were fragmenting it . Because were fragmenting ooort it . Because were fragmenting ooorttts it . Because were fragmenting apartits whats it . Because were fragmenting apart its whats why woke apart and its whats why woke is apart and its whats why woke ts so apart and its whats why woke is so dangerous apart and its whats why woke is so dangerous why i think is so dangerous and why i think tnts is so dangerous and why i think we country is so dangerous and why i think we eountry ts is so dangerous and why i think this country is heading into a terrttte this country is heading into a terrible wreck this country is heading into a terrible wreck solution, oetuotty terrible wreck solution, actually, because cant terrible wreck solution, actually, because cant have actually, because you cant have someone thats politically black but someone thats politically black tutroetotty someone thats politically black butracially black someone thats politically black but racially black or but not racially black or potttteotty but not racially black or politically brown and not its unbelievably politically brown and not its unbelievably and its very tnoonont unbelievably and its very important that unbelievably and its very important that the vast majority of important that the vast majority ot peoote important that the vast majority ot peopte tust important that the vast majority of people just want their buses to work of people just want their buses to work on of people just want their buses to work on time of people just want their buses to work on time and education for to work on time and education torenttoren to work on time and education forchildren to to work on time and education forchildren to be to work on time and education for children to be good for their children to be good ono for their children to be good one so for their children to be good and so on. But for their children to be good and so on. But its for their children to be good and so on. Ttig and so on. But its very important the nation understands whats going on here because it is, you say, a culture war is, as you say, a culture war that will undermine well, as i was saying, too, itll undermine the country. Its was saying, too, itll undermine the country. Its undermining the country. Its undermining the our the foundations of our self belief. And is a self belief. And that is a disaster for the united kingdom. Weve forward weve got to go forward confident as a nation, confident in our values, confident in our heritage and confident in our history. We should be proud of who we are. Theres so much positive weve contributed positive that weve contributed to the world, and all of that is being trounced out by this kind of and just got to of wokery and its just got to stop. But should we, should stop. But should we, should snouto stop. But should we, should snouto we stop. But should we, should should we at stop. But should we, should should we at the but should we, should should we at the time stop should we at the same time stop ono should we at the same time stop andpause should we at the same time stop andpause ono should we at the same time stop andpause and say, should we at the same time stop and pause and say, look, and take pause and say, look, nrttotn and take pause and say, look, nrttotn nos and take pause and say, look, britain has done and take pause and say, look, britain has done some bad things in britain has done some bad things tn tne britain has done some bad things tn tne wont britain has done some bad things in the world and britain has done some bad things in the world and maybe that osnt in the world and maybe that osnt tn in the world and maybe that wasnt in our in the world and maybe that wasnt in our history lessons wnen wasnt in our history lessons wneanere wasnt in our history lessons wneanere ot wasnt in our history lessons when were at school. When we were at school. You know. When we were at school. You knowot when we were at school. You know, of massacres when we were at school. You know, of. Massacres that know, some of the massacres that go know, some of the massacres that go wett know, some of the massacres that go wett. T know, some of the massacres that go on. Well, i disagree, go on. Well, i disagree, actually. I was educated. I was i had the privilege of a really good education in general. Dyer, who for the who was responsible for the amritsar massacre, was part of our part of our history. And no, i mean, we were given a very balanced view. But the overall result of the British Empire was positive. If it wasnt positive, you and i wouldnt be sitting here today having a very open conversation about the subject allowed to without being shut down, closed off and killed essentially. You know, thats sttty essentially. You know, thats sttty. Doctor essentially. 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I didnt know what her name is, but its like the eoontttwe name is, but its like the cognitive dissonance, these people cognitive dissonance, these people wett cognitive dissonance, these people. Well, its cognitive dissonance, these people. � tttttttill. L e people. Well, its like its like that actor who i cant remember her name now, the actress jones. Actress from and darren jones. Yeah, but shes. Did you see yeah, but shes. Did your see the yeah, but shes. Did you see the once yeah, but shes. Did you see the once tne yeah, but shes. Did you see the bbc . The bbc . Yeah, but shes. Did you see the bbc . The bbc . What theyre like outooots bbc . The bbc . What theyre like automatons. Like bbc . The bbc . What theyre like automatons. Like clones. Automatons. Theyre like clones. They automatons. Theyre like clones. Tney rentno automatons. Theyre like clones. Tney rentno ne automatons. Theyre like clones. They remind me of automatons. Theyre like clones. They remind me of each other. Sne they remind me of each other. Sne wos they remind me of each other. Sne ute they remind me of each other. She was like, oh, they remind me of each other. She was like, oh, i they remind me of each other. She was like, oh, i said, this tune she was like, oh, i said, this tntno tnot she was like, oh, i said, this thing that was she was like, oh, i said, this thing that was a she was like, oh, i said, this thing that was a bit upsetting. Ano thing that was a bit upsetting. Antwent. Thing that was a bit upsetting. Antwent. Wo thing that was a bit upsetting. And went, no, no, you didnt and he went, no, no, you didnt upset and he went, no, no, you didnt upsetano and he went, no, no, you didnt upsetant tut and he went, no, no, you didnt upsetand but it and he went, no, no, you didnt upset and but it was upset anyone. And but it was it owertty upset anyone. And but it was it was overtlysaid, was overtly racist. I said, nrttotns was overtly racist. I said, nrttotns o was overtly racist. I said, britains anice. Was overtly racist. I said, britains a nice place was overtly racist. I said, britains anice place to britains a really nice place to twe britains a really nice place to twoget britains a really nice place to tweoet to britains a really nice place to live. Get to act britains a really nice place to live. Get to act again. Live. Never get to act again. Snett live. Never get to act again. Snett te live. Never get to act again. Shell be applauded for hating oneountry shell be applauded for hating on country people on the country and the people tnot on the country and the people tnotono on the country and the people tnotono tne on the country and the people that and the royal that love her and the royal tontty. That love her and the royal tontty. A that love her and the royal tontty. A toy that love her and the royal family. , tiring tuttittti that love her and the royal family. , tiring ttti that love her and the royal family. A day which we on which the royal family was being celebrated. And the other one i just want to mention while were on yusuf humza on it, is yusuf humza yousaf. I got it right. Can never Humza Yousaf Yousaf racist. Yousaf humza yousaf racist. Yeah. So you know, he stands up. Minister of. Hes now first minister of scotland. One of the most senior political in the political positions in the country. Up in country. And he stood up in holyrood and bemoaned the fact and. Yeah, and bemoaned the fact that there were white people in office. Mean, how does that office. I mean, how does that happen . Oh, man. It just i how happen . Oh, man. It just i how peoote happen . Oh, man. It just i how peopte not happen . Oh, man. It just i how can people not see , oh, man. It just i how can people not see where this enose can people not see where this enose rt can people not see where this enose rt you can people not see where this ends . If you divide people down the ends . If you divide people down tne ttnes ends . If you divide people down tne ttnes ot ends . If you divide people down the lines of skin ends . If you divide people down the lines of skin colour, where toes the lines of skin colour, where toes tt the lines of skin colour, where toes tt ente the lines of skin colour, where does it end . Its the lines of skin colour, where does it end . Its awful. T e does it end . Its awful. Does it ente does it end . Its awful. Does it onto anu does it end . Its awful. Does it end . And that and so weve got to get back to the way i was brought up at least, which is it doesnt matter what colour you are, it doesnt matter what religion you are, it doesnt matter what sexual preferences you have, what matters is what kind of person you are, what contribution youre making to the country and how you carry yourself through your life. Thats what matters. And weve got to get back to that kind of meritocratic blind to colour attitude. I cant believe that weve allowed the country to be so in this way that racism is actually alive and kicking, but its being perpetrated against the indigenous white population of the united kingdom. Its awful. Im not going to argue wttn awful. Im not going to argue wttn you awful. Im not going to argue with you there, awful. Im not going to argue with you there, ben. Im not going to argue with you there, ben. I think tneres with you there, ben. I think tneres o with you there, ben. I think theres a lot with you there, ben. I think theres a lot of with you there, ben. I think theres a lot of racism erected. Theres a lot of racism directed, a theres a lot of racism directed, a lot of people, but i tntnt directed, a lot of people, but i tntnt wntte directed, a lot of people, but i think white people get it, too. Ten think white people get it, too. Nen nontn think white people get it, too. Nen nottt. O think white people get it, too. 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And im talking race andpolitics with and identity politics with soetot and identity politics with social commentator Narinder Kaur andcommentator social commentator Narinder Kaur and commentator bushra and political commentator bushra snettn. Derailed the conversation. Join me monday to thursday at 8 pm. On gb news britains news. Channel hello, cnonnet. Hello, coconuts. Ctonnet. Hello, coconuts. Were channel hello, coconuts. Were back now. Now, i always want to have a decent conversation if we can. And i want to talk this week about what i think im going to call racial ism. Some of us here, myself included , cant here, myself included, cant always right. This is always get it right. But this is one why were here, to one this is why were here, to have discussions have these open discussions without favour. Now, without fear or favour. Now, nannder without fear or favour. Now, Narinder Kaur , who is on my left Narinder Kaur, who is on my left here, quite rightly, and bushra , who is on my right, narinder the last time we spoke, you called rishi sunak sunak a coconut and Suella Braverman yes, there coconut. Can i call you a coconut . You can call me a coconut. Yeah, i am a bit. Why would i want to . Well, you can if would i want to . Well, you can tt you would i want to . Well, you can tt you wont. Would i want to . Well, you can tt you wont. T would i want to . Well, you can if you want. I dont would i want to . Well, you can if you want. I dont mind. Its fun. Itsjust. Do you see it as fun. Its just. Do you see it as a fun. Its just. Do you see it as opeiorottwee fun. Its just. Do you see it as a pejorative . No, fun. Its just. Do you see it as a pejorative . No, i fun. Its just. Do you see it as a pejorative . No, i dont. Ti. Do you see it as a pejorative . \tt it t titti. Fun. Its just. Do you see it as a pejorative . No, i dont. I see it as something thats in our community and we can say it. You can say it as well. Because im not that sensitive. Im not sensitive, as you are to when we say about racism and say talk about racism and colonisation you know all of colonisation and you know all of that, you get sensitive. Im not sensitive i dont have sensitive because i dont have guilt. What the word guilt. Okay. What does the word eoonut guilt. Okay. What does the word oonutouyr guilt. Okay. What does the word coconutyour mind coconut bring into your mind wnen tt coconut bring into your mindj when it means when you hear it . It means youre when you hear it . It means youre brown on the outside, white on the inside, which means youre really brown. Youre youre not really brown. Youre trying be white. You dont trying to be white. You dont really are. Its really know what you are. Its just foul word. Narinder just the foul word. 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So we dont we dont walk around, for example, saying the w woro around, for example, saying the w woro to around, for example, saying the n word to people around, for example, saying the n word to people because its the n word to people because its tne tne n word to people because its the the black the community, the black eonnuntty the community, the black community the the community, the black communitythe n Word Community cant say the n word Ono Community cant say the n word onotaston community cant say the n word and Asian Community community cant say the n word and the Asian Community community cant say the n word and the coconut mmunity community cant say the n word and the coconut word. Ty community cant say the n word and the coconut word. � ttttttti i ti say the coconut word. We can. Do say the coconut word. We can. No we say the coconut word. We can. No we get say the coconut word. We can. No we get ony say the coconut word. We can. Do we get any words . Say the coconut word. � ttttttti i ti do we get any words . Do i get any do we get any words . Do i get ony worose do we get any words . Do i get ony worose do we get any words . Do i get any words . Well, do we get any words . Do i get any words . � tttttttill. L. Any words . Well, its up to you to with your community. To discuss with your community. But in the black community, you cant say the n word. In the Asian Community, cant say Asian Community, you cant say the lawrence you wont the c word. Lawrence you wont win im trying to. Win on this. Im not trying to. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Lets down. I want to be i lets stay down. I want to be i want this to be a healthy conversation. You lets have healthy dont want to do like healthy i dont want to do like youre not going to win. Its not about winning. Dont care not about winning. I dont care about i just want to about winning. I just want to talk. Yeah talk. Lets talk bucha. Yeah well, was going to say, is well, i was going to say, is that you see the thing about terminology stuff, i get terminology and stuff, i get that claim words and they that people claim words and they can those amongst can have those words amongst themselves. But go themselves. But i couldnt go out somebody themselves. But i couldnt go outsomebody that| out there with somebody that i knew out there with somebody that i knew ono out there with somebody that i knew and call out there with somebody that i knew and call them coco nut. Tts knew and call them coco nut. Tts tust knew and call them coco nut. Us just not knew and call them coco nut. Its just not right. Knew and call them coco nut. Its just not right. Because i know its just not right. Because i knowtnot its just not right. Because i know that word its just not right. Because i know that word means. So know what that word means. So why know what that word means. So wny to know what that word means. 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I am so tired and fed up this debate that we keep up of this debate that we keep bringing up the diamond , bringing up about the diamond, about about about the kohinoor, about reparations , about people being reparations, about people being unhappy, about historical times that are so centuries ago, not centuries, 1919 was amrita, how are we going to move forward if we do not . Should i tell you towe we do not . Should i tell you now we do not . Should i tell you now noto we do not . Should i tell you how . Hold on, we do not . Should i tell you how . Hold on, hold on, hold on. A time, please. Thank you. Im. Veon a time, please. Thank you. Im. Veon. So a time, please. Thank you. Im. Veon. So wnot a time, please. Thank you. Im. Yeah. So what i a time, please. Thank you. Im. Yeah. So what i think , e thank you. Im. Yeah. So what i think about is i tntnt yeah. So what i think about is i tntnt ttn yeah. So what i think about is i think im tired. Yeah. 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You justbritish monarchy,e actually apologise to dead people . You justbritish monarchy, the tually apologise to dead people . You justbritish monarchy, the queen the british monarchy, the queen failed actually, failed as a monarch. Actually, Queen Elizabeth ii failed as a monarch. Stopped short monarch. They stopped short of ever king charles ever apologising. King charles needs to apologise. You get to needs to apologise. You get to reparations . Yes and youre saying, oh, well, we cant do reparations because thats too big. But you havent even big a deal. But you havent even said sorry. Sorry, be enough. Said sorry. Sorry, be enough. Sorry said sorry. Sorry, be enough. Sorry seems said sorry. Sorry, be enough. Sorry seems to said sorry. Sorry, be enough. Sorry seems to be t sorry, be enough. Sorry seems to be the hardest wort. Sorry seems to be the hardest word. Reparations sorry seems to be the hardest word. Reparations bushwick. Good neo word. Reparations bushwick. Good toeo. 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Theyre not narinder by those historical content. Theyre not Narinder Kaur you said colonisation isnt a problem. Now, who said colonisation problem. Now, who said colonisation isnt now, who said colonisation isnt around now . Twent colonisation isnt around now . Orevtt wos colonisation isnt around now . Orevtt ott colonisation isnt around now . Brexit was all about imperialism and nationalism. Brexit was all about imperialism and nationalism. Who said no , and nationalism. Who said no, nono and nationalism. Who said no, tone on and nationalism. Who said no, tone on o and nationalism. Who said no, hang on a minute. And nationalism. Who said no, hang on a minute. \tt . � tit ti hang on a minute. Narinder kaur , hang on a minute. Narinder kaur i , hang on a minute. Narinder kaur , i want you on here because i want to have a good conversation with you once and i dont want tweets from these from the gb news audience going, i cant watch her screaming, shouting, i want you to express your point to do it in the best possible way. And to do it in the best possible way. And i got to just it might way. And i got to just it might be oovtee way. And i got to just it might be advice and way. And i got to just it might be advice and i and i got to just it might be advice and i may be being potrontstno be advice and i may be being patronising judging people with i patronising judging people with t get patronising judging people with toettuooeo. Patronising judging people with i get judged. g g i get judged. Everyone gets judged. Its like, i get judged. g g 33 its like, lets make i get judged. g 3 33 its like, lets make an judged. Its like, lets make an otteettve judged. Its like, lets make an objective point. 33 its like, lets make an objective point. Okay . Really eotnty objective point. Okay . Really eotnty. Objective point. Okay . Really eotnty. Tust objective point. Okay . Really calmly , just just tell us what calmly, just just tell us what tne calmly, just just tell us what tne protten calmly, just just tell us what the problem is calmly, just just tell us what the problem is here. Why reparations the problem is here. Why reparations are needed. Im not soytno reparations are needed. Im not saying reparations are needed, but some kind of apology, acknowledgement studied in our classrooms. We cant we cannot look at colonisation with rose tinted glasses because people died. Millions of people died. The wealth will the wealth of this country was built on the backs of the oppression of black and brown people. And you cant and brown people. And you cant say centuries ago, 1919 was rac massacre. Thousands of people massacre. Thousands of people were killed. You cant bury these things. Whats the Qatar World Cup built on the backs of the slaves in qatar . I dont live in qatar. Im a british citizen. So thats of no concern citizen. So thats of no concern to me. So you only care . You to me. So you only care . You onty to me. So you only care . You onty sore to me. So you only care . You only care about. To me. So you only care . You only care about. To me. So you only care . You only care about. I so you only care . You only care about. Tittititi so you only care . You only care about. I iti only care about. I care about. Ttn only care about. I care about. Im a british citizen. Right. Sure. Last word before we go to the sure. Last word before we go to tne brew. Sure. Last word before we go to the break. Well sure. Last word before we go to the break. Well be sure. Last word before we go to the break. Well be back to sorry the break. Well be back to sorry tnts the break. Well be back to eorry tnts on the break. Well be back to carry this on, guys, by the way, ono carry this on, guys, by the way, one nueno carry this on, guys, by the way, and bucha honestly, narinder tour and bucha honestly, narinder tourttn and bucha honestly, narinder tourtnto and bucha honestly, Narinder Kaurimtoitl kaur like im going to put it out kaur like im going to put it outlyou. Kaur like im going to put it outlyou. Vou kaur like im going to put it out you. tit. Kaur like im going to put it outlyou. You know, this isnt out to you. You know, this isnt new. Being in being Great Britain talking britain and talking about colonisation. Something colonisation. This is something that across that happened during war across the across the globe. It happened with arabs. It happened with live here. The with indians. I live here. The point is, are bounties of point is, those are bounties of war. So this is how empires were built. It was done that monarchy with millions of people. It was with millions of people. It was done with millions of people. But what we have to look at now is there are communities and families, generations later that are in much better situations , are in much better situations, especially in Great Britain, windrush , we have everything at windrush, we have everything at our hands here. Windrush okay, guys our hands here. Windrush okay, guys. Otoy our hands here. Windrush okay, guys. Otoy we our hands here. Windrush okay, guys. Otoy we oe i 3 windrush okay, guys. Okay we are going to be toot guys. Okay we are going to be toot ono guys. Okay we are going to be back and what guys. Okay we are going to be back and what are we going to do wnen back and what are we going to do wnen we back and what are we going to do wnen we get back and what are we going to do when we get back back and what are we going to do when we get back actually, teouse when we get back actually, teouse yes. 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And im going to have i want both narinder tour to have i want both narinder tour ono to have i want both Narinder Kaur and bucha to have i want both Narinder Kaur and bucha to tell us what to have i want both Narinder Kaurthinkiucha to tell us what to have i want both Narinder Kaurthink the a to tell us what to have i want both Narinder Kaurthink the solution us what to have i want both Narinder Kaurthink the solution to what to have i want both Narinder Kaurthink the solution to thist they think the solution to this very. They think the solution to this very. Very they think the solution to this very, very divisive identity nottttes very, very divisive identity politicsthat very, very divisive identity politicsthat living politics world that were living in politics world that were living tntnot politics world that were living tntnotlrtnntno politics world that were living in that ripping society in now, that is ripping society onort in now, that is ripping society oeon. In now, that is ripping society onon tn in now, that is ripping society onon tn. Three i three. Welcome i three welcome back. Lures welcome back. White colonisers. Wow welcome back. White colonisers. Wow youve welcome back. White colonisers. Wow youve teen welcome back. White colonisers. Now youve been getting in touch to otter now youve been getting in touch to otter wnot now youve been getting in touch to offer what you now youve been getting in touch to offer what you have to say, wnen to offer what you have to say, wnten ts to offer what you have to say, which is essentially why were nere which is essentially why were nere onywoy which is essentially why were nere onywoy. To which is essentially why were here anyway, to talk for you and wttn here anyway, to talk for you and wttn you here anyway, to talk for you and wttn you ono here anyway, to talk for you and with you and anne, here anyway, to talk for you and with you and anne, says, laurence, youre absolutely nont laurence, youre absolutely nont. Tne laurence, youre absolutely right. The racism industry is tototty right. The racism industry is tototty out right. The racism industry is totally out of right. The racism industry is totally out of control and its nottno totally out of control and its making everyday life impossible. I making everyday life impossible. T reotty making everyday life impossible. T reotty tntnt making everyday life impossible. I really think it making everyday life impossible. I really think it is. Making everyday life impossible. I really think it is. I think were reaching i really think it is. I think were reaching this point where everytntno were reaching this point where| everything colour. Everything is about skin colour. Wotntno everything is about skin colour. Wotntnotne everything is about skin colour. Nothing the quality of nothing is about the quality of wnots nothing is about the quality of was going nothing is about the quality of was going on nothing is about the quality of whats going on inside sides. Whats going on inside sides. Soeone whats going on inside sides. Someonetust whats going on inside sides. Someone just going to someone and its just going to getono someone and its just going to getonot someone and its just going to get and worse. Really get worse and worse. I really ooree get worse and worse. I really ooree wttn get worse and worse. I really ooree wttn you. Get worse and worse. I really agree with you, david, said. Mr nennottt benhabib was absolutely on on the benhabib was absolutely on on tne wttn benhabib was absolutely on on tne wttn nts the on the ball with his comments the on the ball with his comments on the on the ball with his comments on immigration. We all know comments on immigration. We all know wnots comments on immigration. We all know whats happening, but obe gb know whats happening, but obe on news know whats happening, but obe on news tetts know whats happening, but obe gb news tells it know whats happening, but obe gb news tells it straight. Keep it gb news tells it straight. Keep tt eontno. Gb news tells it straight. Keep tt eontno. Wny gb news tells it straight. Keep it coming. Why this it coming. Exactly why this enonnet it coming. Exactly why this channelthis it coming. Exactly why this channel this Great Channel channel or this Great Channel evtstse channel or this Great Channel exists . Never exists . You will never hear onytntno exists . You will never hear anythingthis exists . You will never hear anything this anywhere else anything like this anywhere else onneoto. Anything like this anywhere else onneoto. Tor anything like this anywhere else on media, for better or on british media, for better or for worse. But on british media, for better or for worse. But you on british media, for better or for worse. But you can and for worse. But you can go and wont for worse. But you can go and wontone. For worse. But you can go and. Watchbbc. Youre watch the bbc. Dave says youre not oonet watch the bbc. Dave says youre not alone. Culture watch the bbc. Dave says youre not alone. Culture is being not alone. Our culture is being rentoeeo not alone. Our culture is being reptoeeo ono not alone. Our culture is being replaced and its not alone. Our culture is being replaced and its happening roster faster every year. Fully support you faster every year. Fully support youtnont faster every year. Fully support youtnont you. Faster every year. Fully support you thank you, george. You on this. Thank you, george. Ereot you on this. Thank you, george. Great monologues you on this. Thank you, george. Great monologues dropping unwelcome bombs. Thanks, unwelcome truth bombs. Thanks, note unwelcome truth bombs. Thanks, note. Unwelcome truth bombs. Thanks, note. Irtont unwelcome truth bombs. Thanks, note intent on unwelcome truth bombs. Thanks, mate. Right on to unwelcome truth bombs. Thanks, mate. Right on to the future. Mate. On right on to the future. Tn mate. On right on to the future. Tn ootno mate. On right on to the future. Tn going to mate. On right on to the future. Tn going to 90 mate. On right on to the future. Tn going to go to mate. On right on to the future. Im going to go to you narinder tour im going to go to you narinder tour ttrst. Im going to go to you narinder tour first so im going to go to you Narinder Kaur first. So what im going to go to you Narinder Kaur first. So what i was picking kaur first. So what i was otettno up kaur first. So what i was picking up from what you were sown; picking up from what you were soytno wos picking up from what you were soytno you picking up from what you were saying was you feel that that nrttotn saying was you feel that that britain hasnt saying was you feel that that britain hasnt sort of dealt wttn britain hasnt sort of dealt wttn tnts britain hasnt sort of dealt with this and britain hasnt sort of dealt with this and even even an apology with this and even even an apology wouto with this and even even an apology would be enough rather tnon apology would be enough rather than reparations apology would be enough rather than reparations or anything tnts. Than reparations or anything tnts. Nut than reparations or anything tnts. Out you than reparations or anything this. But you want to fully eonnttteo this. But you want to fully committed emotional . Yes. committed emotional . Yes. Yeah. Trots committed emotional . Yes. Yeah. Tnots evootty committed emotional . Yes. Yeah. Thats exactly it. Committed emotional . Yes. Yeah. Thats exactly it. I committed emotional . Yes. Yeah. Thats exactly it. I honestly this denial and this. Oh, no, we didnt. And stop talking about it. Stop silence our voices, you know , the younger generation, know, the younger generation, this matters to them. You know, i dont want the monarchy to go away, but the monarchy will be done the younger generation. Done if the younger generation. Recent yougov polls , yes, recent yougov polls, yes, theyre not interested. And the toppling down statues because it matters to them. We are a progressive, multicultural society. It matters to the younger generation. Now if it matters to the younger generation, let us deal with it as adults that you just said, lets deal with it. Lets be adults about this and say , adults about this and say, actually, what did we do in our colonisation, in our empire . Colonisation, in our empire . Where did we do wrong . Did we do where did we do wrong . Did we do right . I mean, you know, theres two can exist, both can exist. Two can exist, both can exist. I get what youre saying. I suppose i get what youre saying. I suppose tne i get what youre saying. I suppose the response to that and of suppose the response to that and ot you suppose the response to that and of course, you know, does need to 90 of course, you know, does need to to post. Of course, you know, does need to go back. Well, of course, you know, does need to go back. � tttvtttill e 3 to go back. Well, okay, it does. Okay. Okay. Thats your to go back. � tttvtttill e 3 okay. Thats your view. To go back. � tttvtttill e 3 [its f; okay. Thats your view. We okay. Okay. Thats your view. We all okay. Okay. Thats your view. We or know okay. Okay. Thats your view. We or know wnot okay. Okay. Thats your view. We all know what your [its f; okay. Thats your view. We all know what your view is. Veon. All know what your view is. Veon. Tne all know what your view is. Yeah. The response to that might be every yeah. The response to that might be every stnote yeah. The response to that might be every Single Society on earth ono be every Single Society on earth one every be every Single Society on earth on every stnote be every Single Society on earth and every single culture on eortn and every single culture on earthabused, and every single culture on earth abused, destroyed, earth is abused, destroyed, ropeo earth is abused, destroyed, ropeo ono earth is abused, destroyed, raped and pillaged its way tnrouon raped and pillaged its way tnrouon tne raped and pillaged its way through the world. Utittut raped and pillaged its way through the world. \tittut ti. Ti. Ti through the world. Now, as much as britain, we were the biggest empire in the world. Okay. Okay. Werent we . Thats not tnots okay. Werent we . Thats not thats l subjective okay. Werent we . Thats not thats subjective it. 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And were kind of veering towards that now from where we were years we are where we were years ago. We are in better place about the in a much better place about the youngsters. Know, i just youngsters. You know, i just want to make this point. Its not that they dont care about the family because they the royal family because they do. Are very do. Youngsters are very different today. Theyre actually just impartial. Theyre just stuff. Just not bothered about stuff. They thats they are. Thats thats obviously a different poll. However, youngster is just do they just get on with what theyre doing right now . You know, theyre doing lots of hustles theyre online. Theyre hustles. Theyre online. Theyre just new things. Just inventing new things. Theyre like, you know, they find things entertaining things about royal bringing about the royal family bringing the into it actually the youngsters into it actually just doesnt make sense. Just doesnt make any sense. Kids, kids up. Kids are kids. I have incredibly naive. I had to bite. I work on this channel, right . And i had to go in last week and do a thing on the monarchy. Ive not made it unobvious that i find Prince Charles a bit problematic. Unobvious that i find Prince Charles a bit problematic. Oh, charles a bit problematic. Oh, you do . Generally, why do you . For many reasons. But its not about that. The king charles. Sorry, but i was phoned up by the guys and they said, remember, its a coronation its a good, good time. Get focussed, make it. And i was like, well, i dont feel like that. And they said, yeah, but its not about you. Sois said, yeah, but its not about you. So is there an idea to go . The vast majority of this country , we are either calling country, we are either calling out for unity or division. So where would you draw a line of going . Okay if you just acknowledged that you did this wrong, will that be enough for all of the community . So a really good question. Ti 7 so a really good question. 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And i tntnt links of the monarchy. And i tntnt tt links of the monarchy. And i tntnt tt tney links of the monarchy. And i think if they acknowledge that, i think if they acknowledge that, t tntnt think if they acknowledge that, i think thats think if they acknowledge that, i think thats a think if they acknowledge that, i think thats a help in the nont i think thats a help in the right direction. Right direction. A lot to say, though. Sorry to you know, and i dont want to interrupt you because im breaking my own rules. Theres quite a lot to say to a woman who spent 70 years of her life going to pubs hailed as a monarch and you live in a country where youre absolutely right to that. If you went back india, would be went back to india, you would be able say that if you if you able to say that if you if you went back to and went back to india and went, narendra failed loser, Narendra Modi is a failed loser, would you sleep safely at night . Uh, just me safely. . Uh, just tell me safely. 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So actually, tn tne get death threats. So actually, im the internet get death threats. So actually, im the internet club. Im not join the internet club. Im not join the internet club. T no im not join the internet club. T nonestty. Im not join the internet club. I no, honestly, i im not join the internet club. I no, honestly, i agree. Its a 90d i no, honestly, i agree. Its a good tts i no, honestly, i agree. Its a good is o i no, honestly, i agree. Its a good its a good i no, honestly, i agree. Its a good its a good point. E good its a good point. Its ute good its a good point. Its ttte wnot good its a good point. Its ttte wtot t good its a good point. Its like what i all good its a good point. Its like what i all im saying is im getting sparks from both of you, not those sorts of sparks. Oh, yeah, you are. But im oetttno oh, yeah, you are. But im oetttno sports oh, yeah, you are. But im getting sparks of oi tititi but im getting sparks of going. Somethings getting sparks of going. Somethings got getting sparks of going. Somethings got to getting sparks of going. Somethings got to change. Somethings got to change. Something in this narrative has got to change. And i want us before the end of this discussion, i want to us find what one thing that we can all agree on. Okay. All right. What is it . So you want more is it . So you want more accountability . You want accountability . You want education . Education. People are education . Education. People are tonoront education . Education. People are tonoront to education . Education. People are ignorant to actually. Education . Education. People are ignorant to actually. So 3i7 education. People are ignorant to actually. So you wont ignorant to actually. So you wont tne ignorant to actually. So you want the truth. Ignorant to actually. So you want the truth. The truth. Okay. Want the truth. The truth. Okay. Wnot want the truth. The truth. Okay. Wnot to want the truth. The truth. Okay. Wnot to t want the truth. The truth. Okay. What do i want . Want the truth. The truth. Okay. What do i want . I ti what do i want . Its not even about what i want. What do we need, lawrence . I think. I think what we need to do is we need to leave the historical baggage behind. We need to leave that behind. We need to leave that behind. We need to leave that behind. It is no good for us as a community cohesively to move forward. If we keep dragging the past continuously. And weve got past continuously. And weve got to get over it because and im sorry, as harsh as that may sound to people, it is the truth. Hang on. No, no , no, its truth. Hang on. No, no, no, its not. And this isnt about feelings. This is about logic , feelings. This is about logic, practicality and what the country looks like. So we need to leave our feelings and emotions at the table. People are buried. Historical events are buried. Historical events are dead and buried. Lets build are dead and buried. Lets build are dead and buried. Lets build a better future. You sound a better future. You sound tonoront a better future. You sound ignorant, bucha. A better future. You sound ignorant, bucha. You you sound ignorant, bucha. You sound so tonoront ignorant, bucha. You sound so ignorant. What ignorant, bucha. You sound so ignorant. What did we agree . Wnot ignorant. What did we agree . Wnot oto ignorant. What did we agree . Wnot oto we ignorant. What did we agree . What did we agree . Ti what did we agree . I mean, i oont what did we agree . I mean, i cant believe im ignorant. We agreed at the beginning ti. 3 we agreed at the beginning of this conversation agreed at the beginning of this conversation we agreed at the beginning of this conversation we werent going to go personot. Conversation we werent going to go personal. Leave conversation we werent going to go personal. E go personal. Leave it. What do you know about her . But shes saying leave it. And how can you leave something thats not acknowledged . 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Her position is we leave the past moderating this. Her position is we leave the past in past we leave the past in the past teouse we leave the past in the past becauseface we leave the past in the past because face none of because lets face it, none of us neeo because lets face it, none of us need to because lets face it, none of us need to be because lets face it, none of us need to be einstein to work out us need to be einstein to work out tneory. Us need to be einstein to work out tneory. Wny us need to be einstein to work out theory. Why are the out theory. Then why are the prottens out theory. Then why are the problems happening now . Cannot problems happening now . I cannot enonoe problems happening now . I cannot enonoewty problems happening now . I cannot enonoewny ore problems happening now . I cannot changewhy are voices change it. But why are voices becoming louder . Then lets becoming louder . Then lets sorry so becoming louder . Then lets sorrysoot becoming louder . Then lets. Sorrysoat moderating. Sorry im so bad at moderating. Vou sorry im so bad at moderating. Vou oe sorry im so bad at moderating. Vou 900d sorry im so bad at moderating. You are good at sorry im so bad at moderating. You are good at. Go sorry im so bad at moderating. You are good at go calm you are good at it. Go calm toss. You are good at it. Go calmi toss tows. You are good at it. Go calm loss. Laws. Calm loss. Calm laws. Calm laws. Calm tows. Loss. Calm laws. Calm laws. Calm tows. Nueno loss. Calm laws. Calm laws. Calm laws. Bucha says loss. Calm laws. Calm laws. Calm laws. Bucha says we loss. Calm laws. Calm laws. Calm laws. Bucha says we need to laws. But bucha says we need to put onevonee laws. But bucha says we need to put grievance culture and toenttty put grievance culture and identity politics to bed. Can identity politics to bed. Can you identity politics to bed. Can you tett identity politics to bed. Can you tett ne identity politics to bed. Can you tell me in identity politics to bed. Can you tell me in a identity politics to bed. Can you tell me in a calm and reasonable you tell me in a calm and reasonable way you tell me in a calm and reasonable way why thats a bad toeoe reasonable way why thats a bad toeoe tts reasonable way why thats a bad toeoe tts o reasonable way why thats a bad idea . Its a really reasonable way why thats a bad idea . Its a really good idea. If idea . Its a really good idea. Tt tt idea . Its a really good idea. Tt tt wos idea . Its a really good idea. If it was acknowledged idea . Its a really good idea. If it was acknowledged in idea . Its a really good idea. If it was acknowledged in the first place and if acknowledgement weve agreed that we dont agree, were going to acknowledge you returned stolen artefacts. We can then leave it. We can draw a line under it all and we can we can heal and we get why do you get to deal . I dont. So neither of to deal . I dont. So neither of us do. 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But im saying sometimes im just saying sometimes those tnose im just saying sometimes those tnose tntnos im just saying sometimes those those things about im just saying sometimes those those things about looking at tntnos those things about looking at tntnos tn those things about looking at tntnos tn o those things about looking at things in a different way, which is, things in a different way, which tsyou things in a different way, which tsyou eont things in a different way, which tsyou eont dig things in a different way, which is, you cant dig up the is, you, you cant dig up the post is, you, you cant dig up the post ott is, you, you cant dig up the post or tne is, you, you cant dig up the past all the time is, you, you cant dig up the past all the time because you know past all the time because you. Know teen know you cant. Ive never been ouo know you cant. Ive never been ouonts know you cant. Ive never been ouotts never know you cant. Ive never been dugits never been. If. Know you cant. Ive never been dug. Ti if we dug up. Its never been. If we owe dug up. Its never been. If we ooree tnot dug up. Its never been. If we ooree no we dug up. Its never been. If we agree that we want dug up. Its never been. If we agree that we want to dug up. If we agree that we want to dig it up, tnoton agree that we want to dig it up, tnoton ntstory agree that we want to dig it up, Indian History month, would that netp Indian History month, would that netp o Indian History month, would that netp o nontne Indian History month, would that help a month . No, Indian History month, would that help a month . \tit Indian History month, would that help a month . \ttit � tttvttti Indian History month, would that help a month . \tit � tttvttti 3 Indian History month, would that help a month . \ttit � tttvttti 3 help a month . No, no, we need to really acknowledge the past and then we can move on. I want to move i in this move forward. I live in this country. Was your therapist. Country. It was your therapist. I would say you dont want to move forward. I would say you dont want to move forward. Oh, i would say you dont want to move forward. Oi i would say you dont want to move forward. O ti 3 move forward. Oh, im desperate to move. I live in this country. Im citizen. Im a proud british citizen. I know you are. Im proud. You know you are. Im proud. You know am. Know me. I do. Know i am. You know me. I do. And im just saying, if i was and im just saying, if i was if i and im just saying, if i was if t wos and im just saying, if i was if t your and im just saying, if i was if i was your therapist, id say, do i was your therapist, id say, to you i was your therapist, id say, to you reotty i was your therapist, id say, do you really want to move torworo do you really want to move torworo or do you really want to move forward or do do you really want to move forward or do you want to stay wnere nut forward or do you want to stayi where but lawrence, forward or do you want to stay where but lawrence, do where you are . But lawrence, do you think society, as we are now, the youth of today, do you not want us to be united . Do you not want us to be united . Do you not think youth deserve not think the youth deserve some . Dont want this. Some . They they dont want this. I they deserve future i think they deserve a future devoid past. Thats devoid of our past. Thats what i devoid of our past. Thats what t teet devoid of our past. Thats what tteet. Nonw devoid of our past. Thats what i feel, right . We devoid of our past. Thats what i feel, right . We have 3 3 thats what i feel, right . We have only a very i feel, right . We have only a very ston i feel, right . We have only a very short amount of time now, ttsten very short amount of time now, ttsten. T very short amount of time now, ttsten. T know very short amount of time now, listen, i know that very short amount of time now, listen, i know that some of you guys i listen, i know that some of you guys t oont guys were like, oh, i dont wonnotnts guys were like, oh, i dont wanna this conversation, wanna have this conversation, tut wanna have this conversation, tut we wanna have this conversation, tut we oe wanna have this conversation, but we are entering this place as but we are entering this place osleountry but we are entering this place aslcountrywere but we are entering this place as country were going but we are entering this place as coltory were going but we are entering this place as colto have were going but we are entering this place as colto have thisvere going to have to have this conversation. Going to have to have this conversation. Going to to have to have this conversation. Going to have conversation. Its going to have tosenous conversation. Its going to have toserious because. Conversation. Its going to have to serious because the to be really serious because the rnoeono to be really serious because the moreand divide to be really serious because the more and divide people more we try and divide people town. More we try and divide people down, ridiculous more we try and divide people down, ridiculous things like sttn weve down, ridiculous things like skin weve got down, ridiculous things like. Skin weve got to skin colour lines, weve got to come a solution. | come together for a solution. Tnont come together for a solution. Thank parents. Thank you. Both of my parents. Etve thank you. Both of my parents. Etve ne thank you. Both of my parents. Etve me your thank you. Both of my parents. Give me your thing. Up next is work give me your thing. Up next is work poton give me your thing. Up next is mark dolan. Mark, what have you gotuse mark dolan. Mark, what have you ootluse on. Mark dolan. Mark, what have you ootluse on. Nets mark dolan. Mark, what have you gotus . Oh, hes not mark dolan. Mark, what have you got us . Oh, hes not there. Got for us . Oh, hes not there. No got for us . Oh, hes not there. Woeorry got for us . Oh, hes not there. Woeorry on got for us . Oh, hes not there. Nocarry on going got for us . Oh, hes not there. No carry on going until no i just carry on going until tne no i just carry on going until tne eno. No i just carry on going until the end. Tell no i just carry on going until the end. Tell me no i just carry on going until the end. Tell me when to check out the end. Tell me when to check outnonos. The end. Tell me when to check outhands. Can the end. Tell me when to check outhands. Can come| the end. Tell me when to check. Outhands. Can come in. Out guys hands. We can come in. Look here. Look. Theres one. By. By. See you next week, team. Netto by. By. See you next week, team. Netto oootn flat by. See you next week, team. Hello again. Following a turtutent. Hello again. Following a turbulent week of weather with neovy turbulent week of weather with some heavy showers and thunderstorms some heavy showers and thunderstorms out there. Thunderstorms out there. Its a ttne thunderstorms out there. Its a ttne ston thunderstorms out there. Its a ttne stort to thunderstorms out there. Its a fine start to the thunderstorms out there. Its a fine start to the weekend. After any early cloud clears, therell be warm spells of sunshine for many of us, High Pressure is moving in. Thats moving from the north west to the south east this weekend. Initially, weve this weekend. Initially, weve seen area of patchy rain and seen an area of patchy rain and drizzle affects south eastern parts that tends to ease away overnight, we keep legacy overnight, but we keep a legacy of across central of low cloud across central southern and eastern england. Some patches around the coast of scotland and Northern Ireland as well. But for scotland and northern well as Northern Ireland as well as western weve western england and wales, weve got overnight in got clear skies overnight in land and temperatures falling away a result, mid to even away as a result, mid to even low single figures in some sheltered spots , 910 celsius sheltered spots, 910 celsius where weve got the grey leaden skies to start off the weekend and it will be a slow start for east wales, south west england, the midlands as well as northern england. In these places, the cloud will slowly but surely lift , break cloud will slowly but surely lift, break up and be replaced by sunny spells into the afternoon. But we keep the grey skies around the coast and it will affect temperatures 11 to 12 celsius on the north sea coast. High teens, low 20s elsewhere across scotland , elsewhere across scotland, western and southern england. Wales as well as Northern Ireland. Now towards the end of saturday, the cloud will thicken across northwest scotland, with some of rain beginning some outbreaks of rain beginning to move in and that will move into parts of Northern Ireland as as Central Scotland by as well as Central Scotland by the the night. England as well as Central Scotland by the wales,the night. England as well as Central Scotland by the wales, meanwhile,igland as well as Central Scotland by the wales, meanwhile, seesd as well as Central Scotland by the wales, meanwhile, sees the and wales, meanwhile, sees the return the low cloud across return of the low cloud across central areas. But central and eastern areas. But a slice clear skies for slice of clear skies for northern england, for parts of wales in the south west will lead start once again lead to chilly start once again on but of bright on sunday. But plenty of bright weather here on sunday morning. The low cloud across central and eastern will break up and eastern parts will break up and tend retreat back to the tend to retreat back to the coast again. And its coast once again. And its towards the south east where we keep the sunny skies on sunday. And it will be bit warmer on and it will be a bit warmer on that coast. Rain that north sea coast. But rain moving through scotland and Northern Ireland by monday will push into england and wales and turn showery with cooler turn more showery with cooler weather following. On mark dolan weather following. On mark dolan tonight as net migration is set to top a Million People this year , ill be dealing with the year, ill be dealing with the archbishop of canterbury, woke welby, who wants more. In my big opinion, welby, who wants more. In my big optnton. Tne welby, who wants more. In my big opinion, the so called in my big opinion, the so called experts wno opinion, the so called experts wno keep opinion, the so called experts who keep getting opinion, the so called experts who keep getting it wrong about newt. Who keep getting it wrong about brexit. Britain who keep getting it wrong about brexit. Britain plus maverick towyer brexit. Britain plus maverick towyer oerry brexit. Britain plus maverick lawyer gerry hayes , former lawyer gerry hayes, former government lawyer gerry hayes, former government minister edwina currte government minister edwina currte ono government minister Edwina Currie and music superstar carol pester currie and music superstar carol pester. Decker. Three on tv, i three. On tv, on i three on tv, on the limes on tv, on the radio and nurse on tv, on the radio and online in on tv, on the radio and online tn tne on tv, on the radio and online tn tne ut on tv, on the radio and online tn tne ut ono on tv, on the radio and online in the uk and across the world . Tnts in the uk and across the world . Tnts ts in the uk and across the world . Tnts ts wort in the uk and across the world . This is mark dolan in the uk and across the world . This is mark dolan tonight as jacob this is mark dolan tonight as Jacob Rees Mogg calls out, prime wtntster Jacob Rees Mogg calls out, prime wtntster tttsnt Jacob Rees Mogg calls out, Prime Minister rishi sunak for prontstno minister rishi sunak for promising to minister rishi sunak for promising to set fire to thousands promising to set fire to thousands , promising to set fire to thousands , thousands of eu rules thousands, thousands of eu rules. Tnots thousands, thousands of eu rules. Tnots nont thousands, thousands of eu rules. Thats right, thousands of eu rutes. Thats right, thousands of eu rutes. Thats right, thousands of eu rutes. Tne. Thats right, thousands of eu rules. The prime. Thats right, thousands of eu rules. The Prime Minister gave rules. The Prime Minister gave his rules. The Prime Minister gave nts wort rules. The Prime Minister gave nts wort ono rules. The Prime Minister gave his word and he rules. The Prime Minister gave his word and he said in his teooersntp his word and he said in his Leadership Campaign that he wouto Leadership Campaign that he wouto put Leadership Campaign that he wouto put tu Leadership Campaign that he would put eu laws through the sweetest would put eu laws through the snreooer. Would put eu laws through the snreooer. So would put eu laws through the shredder. So have the government shredder. So have the government tetroyeo shredder. So have the government tetroyeo us shredder. So have the government tetroyeo us on shredder. So have the government betrayed us on brexit . Also, the wet betrayed us on brexit . Also, the wet pottse betrayed us on brexit . Also, the net pottse oe betrayed us on brexit . Also, the met police are in betrayed us on brexit . Also, the met police are in hot