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This is the Tom Hartman program and welcome back just to just to recap I realize you know particularly on radio some somewhat on television and we're in both media where this program that people come and go they you know turn and turn the show on when they get their car or whatever so I do it just to give you a recap of what's happened today and then we'll get into your phone calls and your thoughts on others well. The the director of National Intelligence Joseph acquire testified this morning before the House Intelligence Committee chaired by Adam Schiff and. A ranking member of the kind of number 2 guy is dead and known as the famous toady and lapdog of Donald Trump who is currently involved in so in as I recall a fictitious cow. Anyhow. So it was all. So they held a hearing and McGuire essentially said. Yes I was given this whistleblower report that says the president committed treason my word not his I'm perfectly willing to call this treason in fact let me just back up on this a little bit. And put McGuire in context as well this guy was a Navy Seal for 30 some odd years worked his way up through the chain of command he was not a spy I didn't work for the n.s.a. Or the CIA or any of the intelligence services he was in the Navy he retires in the military joins up with the Republican Party yes I'm a good Republican and Donald Trump reaches out and said Would you be my acting director of national intelligence just for a while you don't have to get confirmed by the Senate or anything you can just be acting and you know it's a good gig and McGuire goes. He said this is testimony I'm not the most well qualified guy for this job. And the top administration says yeah but we'd like you and so he says Ok I'll do my duty I've done my duty my whole life I see a flag I salute a. Senior officer in this case the president the commander in chief. And so he's on the job about a week. He's been on the job for 41 days today was 41st day on the job I don't know if that's business days or total days but he's been on the job for about a week and the inspector general. Inspector Generals this is the inspector general for the intelligence committee inspector generals are sort of like internal affairs with the police department you know we have all watched cop shows and the cops all hate the guys in internal affairs according to the cop shows. Personal knowledge of this but this is you know t.v. Is such a cliche right Internal Affairs did you hit that guy too hard you know it's. Kind of stuff you know and internal affairs of snooping around trying to make sure that everything's on the up and up. Well you have that same thing in big government bureaucracies you know like the State Department and the and the intelligence community and. Cetera et cetera only that person called Internal Affairs that person is called inspector general and one person is basically in charge of the whole staff who doesn't does to get installed kinds of stuff. So the inspector general for the intelligence community has overseen the entire thing it's 17 or 19 intelligence agencies is Specter general for the intelligence community is the guy who the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Act This is a law passed 3040 years ago that says basically if a whistleblower in the intelligence community wants to blow the whistle they can't just go to some other agency they can't go to their part of justice after all they're in the Intelligence Committee they're spies they've got all these secret information they can't go outside the intelligence community to say hey something bad is going on here so they created this position of inspector general inspector general the top cop for the intelligence agency the inspector general gets this whistleblower report that says that Donald Trump has committed treason. Now we have never in the history of this republic had a president who is accused of collaborating with a foreign power to get himself elected or reelected. Or elected in 2016 you know say Russia if you're listening get those get Hillary's emails and boom there they are what a surprise so he's worked in 2016 let's try to get to 2020 This summer going to go to Ukraine. I mean the close to literally the closest we've ever got to this to the best of my knowledge and I'm pretty good with history. Were the attacks the partisan attacks that were made against John Adams when he was running for president 7906 and it was Thomas Jefferson when he was running for president 1900. And the attacks were you know the ones against John Adams were well you know he defended that British soldier who killed Crispus Attucks and a couple other people the Boston Massacre he defended that guy and Adams gets all indignant he says yes I did that's the right thing to do everybody is entitled to a defense that's the cornerstone of American jurisprudence that's the law and Adams defends himself as being noble for doing that which he was but there were a lot of people who thought Oh Ok he's loyal to the crown you can't trust this guy so Adams was very controversial and then along comes Jefferson and Jefferson lived for a number of years in France he was a u.s. Envoy to France he spoke French he was fluent in French by the time he was 12 years old he loved French wines he loved French food so when he was running 900 as I call it all he's got mixed loyalties with his best friend is. A Frenchman a French but the officer a military officer and diplomat we can't trust Jefferson That's as close as we ever got. And you know it was all out of the open and people were like you know talking about it but you know it didn't spin the elections but we've never had a president accused of treason like this and here's this guy Joe McGuire who's 1st week or 2 on the job and this thing drops in his lap the biggest bombshell in the history of the United States. Saying that the guy who is perfectly willing to essentially tell his right wing troll armies go out and kill somebody or threaten to kill somebody. You know when Trump was tweeting against Christine Blasi forward she's getting death threats she has to go into hiding and she's not the only one who has been on the receiving end of this because of a trump tweet and so this guy is so you know McGuire He's you know and he didn't say this explicitly but he has a look at the guy he was just squirming and he was like so uncomfortable the last. That if you're the director of National Intelligence and the attorney and the inspector general for the intelligence service says here's a credible whistleblower complaint you have to give that to the oversight committee for intelligence that's the you know the the intelligence the House Intelligence Committee you have to give that to them within 7 days the word shall is in the law it's not optional. So he's like Ok if I give this to the house without telling the White House about it Trump is going to be seriously pissed off and look at what that in a little what happens to people with where that happens on the other hand if I don't give it to the house I'm breaking the law and I could go to jail. What would you do so. Says Ok You know I've been a soldier for almost 40 years I understand chain of command I need to take this to a lawyer but you know I need to take as a lawyer who is above me in the chain of command and there's only 2 there's the lawyers for the White House. And there's the lawyers for the Justice Department who are arguably not above him in the chain of command there there is sort of his peers . But not quite I mean director of national intelligence is not a Cabinet position so it's not quite the the equal of Bill Baris is subordinate arguably lower down in the pecking order. So he's got this whistleblower complaint saying that the president is guilty of treason and by the way this is quoting from the whistleblower this interference includes among other things pressure in a foreign country to have us here one of the president's main domestic political rivals the president's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani is a central figure in this for attorney general Bill Barr appears to be involved as well so he takes the complaint to bar and the Trump or Trump's people says what do I do with this and shockingly Bill Barr the guy that William Saffire back in 1902 called cover up General Barr you have a New York Times subscription just plug that into their search engine with the year 1902 it'll blow your mind with your sapphires columns about about Bill Barr and his kids cover up efforts with regard to Iran Contra he was doing it throughout the year it's mind boggling which is why Trump brought him back so surprise surprise Bill Barr says oh don't worry you don't have to give that to Congress now the inspector general knows the law he knows that McGuire are supposed to give this to Congress in 7 days goes by and Congress doesn't have an inspector general start to freak out and you know it's a little hazy here exactly what happened next whether the inspector general leaked this or whether. The inspector general went to went to the Intelligence Committee and said one of them winked at her or some reporters just got it from a leak inside the White House which is frankly I think the most likely. What happened but the near post the Washington Times and n.b.c. News all break this story but the director of national intelligence is sitting on a charge from a whistleblower and now they're starting to say that they think this whistleblower is a CIA guy that trump committed treason and that Giuliani and Barr were in a. And that they've been that they hid the evidence on a secret server and that this isn't the 1st time they did it and all hell breaks loose and so he's just he's just like squirming in there he's like you know I don't want to go to jail I mean if he he's trying so hard not to admit that he held this up and violated the law. And at the same time so he doesn't go to jail but at the same time he's trying so hard to say Yeah I read this I guy the you know I know what this guy said and I for the I think it's credible it's solid yeah does look like Trump committed treason and Bill Barr Rudy Giuliani help you and then Trump comes out just just you know hours ago and says that you know this this whistleblower. Should get the death penalty. He said and I quote. This is a close about no reporters this was to the u.n. Staff he says I want to know who is the person who gave the whistleblower the information because that's close to a spy you know used to do a trump your word for word you know we used to do in the old days when we were smart were spies in treason right or used to add a little differently than we do now trumps lawyer was right Conan Roy Cohn was the guy who directed the prosecution of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg even though there was literally no evidence that Ethel Rosenberg knew that her husband was giving secrets to the Russian. Prosecutor to her and ask for the death penalty and she was strapped to the electric chair along with her husband that both died. That made his career and then he became Trump's lawyer along with you know the 2 biggest mob families in New York. It's amazing story in the trouble saying yeah we should kill as whistleblower to this such. This is the heart. I mean if this is an impeachable. Nothing is impeachable. And a welcome back to Larry and Coos Bay Oregon Hey Larry what's on your mind. It imo I want to take your pick up on. Hello Tom what's up for a greeting from beautiful Coos Bay There is no central coast I just wanted to let you have the best listeners who I've been listening to for 10 years a guy your books don't get me started as a native New Yorker I've known the charm crime family since the early fifties he was in Queens and I was in Queens I lived in Jackson nights anyway someone write a book about Studio 54 Jeffrey Epstein and Trump's escapades there and that will set the Avengers evangelicals on fire but more importantly I got a suggestion for you savvy listeners out there if someone wants to organize a March to Washington like the women's March back in in January of 2016 just to go in front of the White House and just start yelling lock him up but that's happening right now as we speak for. Well wherever he goes we have a pence goes just have a contingent of people following him around going lock him up there constantly you cannot ignore that and that will damage his credibility and knowing him. Ego would be deflated time keep up the good work I got to tell you I really like thank you thank you they made by the way I wonder if he wanted to say we're the same age grade right Tucker they Larry thanks a lot for the call Harcourt and I kind of saw George a are about what's up well I. Was confused about the role the various 'd roles are but I g. D. And I you know the. And you do the beautiful job of explaining that actually thank you because apparently what I got from your 1st explanation was that the g. Bench really gave the whistleblower complaint to the committee but but apparently you're not sure about that right you're right I said in the previous hour that he gave it to them now but then I went back and was looking through the news stories here and it looks like we're just not really sure I think I think he probably alternately had to give it to them gave it to them today actually. But that was you know after the after but a report of the times in the Post Well I do have another question. Actually. There was a lot of talk earlier about 8 phone calls and you know it wasn't a phone calls it was 8 instances. Oh Ok so did I get it on when I was on one phone call or I might have been I mean you know I I haven't done I haven't gone through the whistleblower poor and put numbers next to things I'm not sure if it comes up to aid in there or not. And then Biden is charged with having a distorted. The president of the Ukraine over a $1000000000.00. Gives credit. To do. That had been voted for for do you know anything about you know one of the thought I heard n.p.r. Yesterday I was driving down the street and they said you know the Obama administration never I never gave any money to Ukraine Well the Obama administration authorized a $1000000000.00 worth of aid I believe it was a $1000000000.00 worth of aid to Ukraine and basically the clock ran out. Obama become President Trump became president the heritage that. Biden I believe was involved in the effort of the. Holding that money until they fire this corrupt prosecutor and place it with somebody to actually investigate crimes of Ukraine. That's what Joe Biden was bragging about how he got the you got this corrupt prosecutor kicked out and replaced by a guy whose arm and I got to run but thanks for the call will be right back. So here on the program recently we had a fascinating conversation with Professor Richard Wolffe about how banks have to keep basically 10 percent in reserve in case there's a run on the bank everybody wants their deposits back in the banks can lend out 90 percent but they have to keep that 10 percent so they can pay you you know give you your money back if you want it Fannie and Freddie have a similar requirement in case mortgages go south mortgages did go south in 2008 any and Freddie couldn't cover of the shortfall and as a result they collapsed and we you and I had to pay 190000000000 dollars to bail them out well back then there reserve requirement was $0.45 on $100.00 now it's $0.19 on $100.00 Our special members only riff he can find over Thom Hartmann dot com is all about this what it means where to go and what we can do about it so check it out of Tom Hartman Our come. Back tomorrow here with you so breaking news down this is the Biden part of the story. When Ukraine was invaded by Russia and you know the whole Crimea thing back in 2014 I believe it was President Obama you know brought Obama was present the United States Joe Biden was Face president. And on a bipartisan basis Congress authorized a bunch of money I believe it was about a $1000000000.00 to be given to Ukraine for self-defense against Russia. That money actually never got distributed to Ukraine during the Obama presidency if the news reports I'm reading have it right I've read this in 3 different places now I don't have personal knowledge of those 1st hand knowledge of this and I don't remember it happening I don't think much of this was out in public. The problem was that even though there was a pro American or a pro western president in Ukraine now. That guy was fairly corrupt and the prosecutor in Ukraine who was supposed to be you know sort of their version of our. Like Bill Barr you know of our of our attorney general that person was actually covering up corruption rather than uncovering it and so did Joe Biden starts Alina Joe Biden was put in charge of the whole Ukraine situation but broke a bomb he went over there a half dozen times and one of those trips his son Hunter went to with him and Hunter suddenly has this job for $50000.00 a month as a member of the board of directors of the of a big natural gas company has fossil fuel company crane which looks like hell this is not a good thing for Joe Biden or for his campaign and Trump was screaming about this on t.v. This morning. Joe Biden high has sort of got a $1000000.00 and it always kind of you know Trump is just like foaming at the mouth about those. And you know I get that it does look bad but actually it was investigated and this is the you know breaking story this is from The Washington Post former top Ukrainian president prosecutor who's allegations were at the heart of the dirt digging effort by Rudy Giuliani said Thursday. Biden did not run afoul of any laws in Ukraine. Yury go the former Ukrainian prosecutor he says from the perspective of Ukrainian legislation he did not violate and neat thing. Cannot be responsible he said this is the prosecutor the you know the. The Ultimately the good guy prosecutor harder Biden cannot be responsible for violations of the management of mother took place 2 years before survival so apparently the company was cool maybe they thought putting on a higher. Board would clean up their act or so. That's just literally just that is just came out you know a half hour. So you know the show rolls up pick up the calls after the break stick around for. Your listening to the Thom Hartmann program called 202808. It is time for impeachment it is time to get this crook out and we need to fight I mean. Mike Pence has been promoting this whole thing to how deep is he and the. Music and ideas that he went through k. V.c.s. Belleview listeners supported public service of Bellevue College thanks so much for tuning into the Thom Hartmann program here good morning my name's Gregory Dillion great to have ya listen and then never have on hand for Thom Hartmann shows 202-808-9925 about half hour left in the program we're going to reconnect with this show in just a few moments here on the new 13 k.p.c. As. Up next hear headlines from Feature Story News from Feature Story News in London on I'm only Baratz Russia says impeachment proceedings against Donald Trump are ridiculous the statement from a spokesperson from the foreign ministry comes a day off to the transcript for the conversation between the u.s. 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With fs and spotlight I'm Simon marks President Trump suggested once again at the United Nations this week that he's willing to act as a mediator between India and Pakistan over the disputed territory of Kashmir given that the dispute dates back to 947 and that all previous attempts at global mediation have failed there is little reason to believe that the Us president will either be successful or ever get the chance even to put his talents to the test it has been almost 2 months since the Indian government cracked down on Kashmir has limited degree of autonomy arrested more than $4000.00 people and scrapped the region's special constitutional status it seems like the Indian government game plan will be to get to winter and we see less popular mobilization less likelihood of mass protests and then in the spring sometime hold a new round of elections hall stand alone does a professor of political science at the University of Chicago aim there will be to get some degree of electoral turnout and try to kind of prop up a new wave of Kashmir the local political leaders it's very unclear if that will work to say the very least there's a good chance that you won't get much turnout you won't get very strong candidates but I suspect that the public relations play of the government is going to be made as for President Trump Pakistani prime minister Imran Khan is reported to be less than pleased that he attended a rally for Indian prime minister Narendra Modi in Houston last weekend with f s n spotlight I'm Simon marks fs and is an independent source of news for t.v. 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Saying they're trying to get their calling out to re-employ is for I didn't join the official Defense Task Force by the way there are there are stories suggesting that Trump actually is putting together where they are trying 2020 campaign is putting together using the donor money and official task force and that Cory Lewandowsky may be in charge of a. So I share that e-mail with the I just got another one I literally just you know 10 minutes ago from Trump pence keep America great 2020 This one is from Jr We got we heard from Daddy earlier now we're hearing from junior. Prod What do I hear from Iran to see I'm telling you this is it Trump is going to be beating this drum so loud right wing hate radio it's going to be nothing but 100 Biden and you know corrupt Ukrainian oligarchy some gas companies and Joe Biden's involvement with this is what they wanted to do in September of next year if Joe Biden was the nominee and they've they're all assuming Biden will be the nominee this is this was going to be their September October surprise and they were just lining it all up but now it's out so now they've got to run with it so here it is Fred what do you do when your front runners a sleepy 76 year old man embroiled in a massive corruption scandal massive in all caps. Emphasize the words in all caps if you're Nancy Pelosi to blame President Trump and call for a page one inquiry a Ukrainian energy company knew the Joe Biden was for sale so they gave His Son 50000 dollars all math to sit on their board despite having no previous relevant experience in the energy sector and c. Pelosi wants you to believe that was President Trump's fault every single poll shows that the American people are mainly against impeachment but Nancy would rather listen to a left wing big money donors and her friends on the socialist squad battle allies have been drawn to President Trump needs to know if you're on his team he's asking you to join the official impeachment task force a friend joins in aid your donation will be double matched note if you save your payment information or donation will go through immediately contribute $45.00 by 11 59 pm tonight and join the official impeachment task force and your contribution will instantly be doubled. Here's my account number and my deadline and my double match and everything oh it's so thrilling. These guys are twisting in the wind they are freaking out with a capital f. . Anthony in Detroit he has a what's on your mind. Hey How you doing. I mean the carbon I'm running for Congress was destroyed I want to talk about page 2 with the transcript Ok Ukrainian president's going to say we want to drain the swamp in our country as well so we see a different issue here all the transcripts I'm sorry I've got whistleblower complaint from me let me find the transcript service Ok pastry got it. He said We want to drain the swamp in our country as well you know and we see this other issue here is why many progressive sources myself are saying that there might not be any collusion and this actually might be an issue more of in off and of politics more of this stablish to go on the strings in our own country. As maybe by part of the screen both in the gym was established I'm. Going to do any of that I'm sure. At it why don't you see that because it is because there's no evidence that the Democrats are in on the. Table isn't a single and him out against all the other Democratic candidates even trump a lot of the u.c.i. Albino is because in 103 year. Yeah of course he is but you part of the of stablish me you've already done it I get out the you know the trump card trump took down Hillary Clinton to the extent that he did took down Hillary Clinton by smearing her Trump has no he has nothing in the world and think. I'm going to drop you and just finish this around why I strongly disagree with you Donald Trump has nothing to offer the American people I mean he campaigned on a bunch of things that we now know and even his voters now know he couldn't do some Actually I suppose he could he campaigned on you know that he was going to trash people of color he's done that right his race is racist of all although Mexico's not paying for Apparently children of the us military or paying for the for the war but he also campaigned on bringing our jobs back home and instead we've seen more job losses he campaigned to clean up Washington d.c. And instead we're finding all these corrupt former lobbyist running all the major agencies in Washington d.c. From the f.c.c. To the e.p.a. He campaigned. He was he was going to lower taxes for middle class people and raise taxes on rich people he said I'm going to take a bath that's really our army he lied about all those things and so Americans are figuring out that he lied about those things but the main thing that he did was he smeared Hillary Clinton and you know with a little help from his friends and so he's looking at 2020 and literally July 24th was the day the Fox News published a poll showing that he was losing to Joe Biden by 10 points 10 points is not in consequential that's a big budget that's losing big so he was watching Fox all day on the 24th of July and freaking out and the next day just by coincidence they scheduled this phone conversation with the president of Ukraine. And he has been working this thing him and Rudy in the background it worked in this thing for 6 months you know going all the back to April Sean Hannity actually got him on board with us on the air on Fox News in April talking about Crowd Strike was actually there with you know the hack of the d.n.c. Server it came out you created didn't come out of Russia and it was actually Crowd Strike of the company the d.n.c. Brought in was actually you know it's a lie in that it was Russians and then the intelligence agencies were lying and you know quack quack quack so Giuliani's work in this thing and the Biden kid you know her blood and so he's on the fall of the guy he just can't stop him self he's like you know you know who's on skiis like you know I need some anti-tank missiles please and Trump is like yeah I need a favor and had it not leaked and had Ukraine come up with some dirt on Biden manufactured or otherwise we wouldn't be hearing about it until the middle of next year probably late summer early fall. But it leaked and so you know now now Trump is all over this I just don't see the hotel press I mean to us Paul I wouldn't call Washington a fall what's so. Interesting to. Trump is calling for the leaker to be executed. I think he needs to read Matthew chapter 7. Verse Measure for Measure So apparently he does believe in the death penalty for for treason but it's not the monarchy that would preside over that trial Congress and right now there. Is No Yes I mean this is what he does it is not to invoke another character reference but I was just reading about the play Richard the 2nd yesterday. And we're talking about normally King don't go out and kill people because they got the idea in the air that people can be killed so that's kind of what you just got to indorse the idea that out of 3 that you know you should be killed and yet he's the one who did but the greater point here time is that the way they're Democrat or the Republican I think that. I mean the more culpable. And son might be more culpable that makes Trump I mean this is an increasing function of this is the argument applies is this argument against Heller Hellen Yeah of course I'm corrupt that my opponent is worse . Than the right if he was like yeah easy he was no he was admitting that he grabs when he was admitting that he was you know a shady deals in his business and he soon by people and he didn't pay and he committed fraud with his university paid $25.00 yeah it's all true but Hillary's worse and I was saying the same thing about Biden right and the 2 are actually they're unrelated I mean I mean if if he were if if Joe Biden has some corruption and his son the way Trump about uncovering it is unconstitutional but note this is something no. And has brought up none of this came out in the report nothing not a word for so little because it was investigated at the time by both the Ukrainian government and the u.s. Government to make sure that it was all squeaky clean I mean it looks bad to have the vice president's son getting a getting basically a. Showcase job and I'll expect but I and I think if you don't look very likely right but look there are 2 looks bad in the current climate the progressive democratic example but it doesn't. Look bad but back in the day when the Clintons were becoming multi multi millionaires basically on the back of public service you know people just thought yeah that's what people do but you know well a friend of me talked to me a while ago is that the problem that the leaker or the started a whistleblower. Is 2nd hand and I said Not at all on the contrary secondhand can go to your say you know it's yours they could be secondhand secondhand could also be very damning but Ok you got it secondhand but who did you get it from the audience that could be the that's the real damage that you've got to do you know whistleblower got it from directly inside either from a part of the administration that's correct he was compiling information from multiple sources and that makes it more credible not credible that's what career quarters do that's what prosecutors do that's what spies do it you know you don't take a single source if it was one guy who said hey I saw this happen you might be able to impeach that one guy I mean you know but discredit that one guy if it's one guy saying why are 5 guys who told me this and here's their names and here's the documents to back it up by the way the documents are part of as part of this whistleblower document that he can find of a New York Times The Washington Post front page yeah spot on all spot on thanks a lot for the call Mark in Oceanside California Mark what's up. Yeah I. Know I like your show Long thank you. Yeah I thought it would be so you know that maybe they might add a recording in Ukraine the phone call with the launch Yes they suggested that they do that they did because right after the conversation they posted this thing on their website and in Ukraine a Russian. Basically said the Ukraine was going to get together with the United States and figure out the corruption cases you know which is an indirect reference to buy. Right yeah so it's always there anyway the Democrats can get a little bit copy of that tape. Well it's well you know it's a good question I don't know I don't you know as Alinsky has got to be feeling like the bad in the middle big time I mean he's is you could see yesterday by his face of his body language he was terrified you know on the one hand he needs the United States if it's going to fend off Russia on the other hand if he if he angers style he's toast because the guy is still present so he's got he's got to be really I mean just just like on the wire of this party both of they're there they're scared and legitimately so far thanks for the call back. You know we have most of the Democrats to figure this out but keep an eye on the Republicans particular in the south this is going to get real. And welcome back rose in Flemington New Jersey list and a rose what's up. Yesterday must mean about 230 homeowner quality and discuss. The idea that it. Would commissioner had tried to get money for a large multibillion dollar loan from Qatar Yeah it was it was there was $1000000000.00 at it was from Osama Well Father Carter was the major investor and you know right and then at that time. The. Saudi to minutely blockaded who did something to the cutter they did you know kind of a little bit and it should eat out but the thing is I remember this I remember it must have been late last spring or in some time out of a marriage there it was I'm blind by the way I have no way of looking up things. I heard them say oh and Saudi Arabia is broke abroad came with Carter and I'm certain they're not enemies would. That all about you know it was I want to move the moment but I think it needs to be discussed in great detail because it's just all part of the same craziness you know I agree I agree and what happened was the blockade went away once Carter said yes and gave a $1000000000.00 to George Bush so he could pay off the loans that were coming due in a 6 months or within the year I'm not sure exactly how many months but it's less than a year on 666 5th Avenue and your let's be let's see if we can get more information on that content should be top priority right now what you've done is. Nepotism is as old as. Not Rushmore and. We were just going to happen it's been sanity going on but when somebody starts defending and then attacking and acting like. Like a mob boss. And you're going to get their hitman after people this is not America anymore this is the lack of land Well this is even what years of drugs can do to people. I mean this is shop and well and there's this new movie coming out where the by Roy colony just lays it out you know the Trumps mob connections right now as mob connections it's just amazing stuff because it's just a great I ran into him once and he was probably the most physically repulsive face of every scene he just had a scowl he was writing from the inside out at that point. But the things he did I watched who are with my grandfather impacts on American Activities Committee Yeah and he would you know do would have any anyway after the Rosenbergs I mean this is what I did and he's been invited think tax. Issues and the question is this one of the American people going to say oh the miracle is not the miracle we think it is one of they going to start to look at things with a what they call the game well I and say wait a minute I think it's already I think it's already started rose and I think the the why. New liberalism that Ronald Reagan gave us that was then picked up and carried by Clinton and Obama that is falling apart right in front of us. The idea that public service is a way to enrich yourself and your family which is you know coming back to bite Joe Biden the but. A bunch of these things that we accepted for a long time ago we thought well maybe it won't be so better maybe it's even a good thing you know neoliberalism Yeah I stare it is sure we're discovering that these are all lies and they were all designs basically to protect the interests of one particular economic class you know the top one percent of the disadvantage of all of us to get around that music make sure you were thank you very much for the call and thanks for listening to me be a I will be right back it's 9 minutes before the. So our newest video for our Tom Hartman program supporters over a Tom Hartman dot com just went up it's about the way prefer. 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Yeah hey Candy wait I wanted to talk to you about Nancy Pelosi during her. Announcement this impeachment inquiry quoted Benjamin Franklin and I believe she said. What kind of a nation or monarchy do we have sir. And she said Republic a republic if we can hang on to it actually the literal report reply from Franklin was because it was a woman who had asked him I'm I'm forgetting her name it's been years since I read the quote but but he said it is a Republican mail if you can keep it. Little did he say to me critique group. He says remind me he said it so you probably say republic because it just seems to me that it is the Democratic part the Republicans who are trying to get to school with a monarchy Yeah all the Republicans become the party of oligarchy Absolutely I mean back in the day you find Jefferson referring to himself as a Republican everybody wanted to refer to themselves as Republicans the Democratic Party was originally named by Thomas Jefferson the Democratic Republican Party and then they dropped the word Republican from their name in the $820.00 s. . And just became the Democratic Party and it's the longest lasting party in the history of the world for any country and and. So the word republican back then meant a very different thing it meant you know having a republic having the rule of law having you know this infrastructure of laws and a constitutional system within which you had democratic elections I was given but the word democratic didn't come into real currency until the 830 s. When they were run the Democratic Party dropped the word Republican from their title and how we got to move along here thanks a lot for the caller Sean and Oakland California a shot what's up. I love your show for many years and I really appreciate what you do thank you you know for Benedict Donald ever even office we were compromising we were in a bad way we can go back to Flint but not to relive the gate that we are where we are now we need to continue now that we have an impeachment inquiry right the screws on Mr I always wanted a purple heart and not only that all the Republican quislings is full and you know and parents I mean on September 2nd parents gave a press conference and Poland and talked about the corruption and Ukraine I mean Pence is in on those 2. Absolutely well thank you so much I also want to know what Hello I'm k.c. Haas and I'm sure a Mason where the host of nurse talk radio here's what we're talking about this week so let's talk a little bit about your insights on the current drug pricing legislative efforts and also about some fault lines developing among the likely 2020 Democratic presidential contenders particularly around health care reform well as we saw in the midterms that it was the number one issue for American voters I mean and we also saw that over half of the Democratic contenders that were running for offices even against Republicans were in support of Medicare for all but the other bigger number right now is that 90 percent of Americans support regulation of drug prices so that's why you're starting to see bipartisan action I mean we've got Trump talking about you know listing the drug prices not that that's going to do much but we've got Speaker Pelosi now talking about how she's going to be putting forth very strong legislative bills and whatnot but we don't know any specifics about that yet and we have a number of 2020 contenders like Harrison Jeff Merkley Amy club who are putting forth drug price plans Elizabeth Warren has prepared a bill that would permit the government to manufacture drugs and sell them at lower prices and Cory Booker is putting together a bill that sheds light on the pharmaceutical companies fraudulent moves to bilk Medicaid and Medicare so we've got a number of things floating out there on the drug pricing front but nothing has really actually moved through the legislative process yet I didn't know that it was illegal for you to go to another country and buy drugs so when you were there in Spain and this happened to you I would think that the natural reaction. 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