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They come up in the. Head. To sleuth and i Heart Radio listen to podcasts central point a you but but you're saying that's not true right thing it not true it is no different we see over here we went to a different part of the universe we would see everything moving away from us just as we are here we see everything moving away from us one of the remarkable things about the universe is that it's uniform that is no special point in the universe everything is moving away from everything else at the present so expansion is true yes. And eventually given enough time if expansion continues we'll be virtually by ourselves I mean everything else will have moved away from us yet if we wait true so in fact we've even discovered something more peculiar about the universe which is very recently that is that not only is universe expanding but the rate of expansion has picked up speed since the point after the stars and galaxies formed so for most of the history of the universe the expansion of the universe has been slowing down while in a conventional explosion you have projectiles from the explosion. You know at a very high rate of speed but then slowing of course that would be mainstream physics I mean after the explosion things would continue on outward but then they would begin to the velocity would be less and less and less as the energy so where the hell is the energy coming from to keep things expanding are even beyond expanding at a faster rate where is that energy coming from well it what it's telling us is that most of the energy of the universe is not what we thought it was we thought that most of the energy of the universe were in the form of matter and matter that makes up our so and also a mysterious kind of matter we often call dark matter matter which makes up most of the mass of galaxies and and help the formation of galaxies in the early universe. And if it were the Universe were really made of. The same kind of matter is we're made of or this more exotic dark matter then that would be causing the universe to slow down and its expansion because it gravitationally self attractive in view of this expansion of the universe. The observation that the universe is actually sticking up in speed means that there's yet another kind of energy in the universe which has a peculiar feature that instead of being gravitationally self attractive the way ordinary things are it's actually gravitationally self the pulse of if you make a lump of ordinary matter or a dark matter it will clump up with time due to gravity make a lump of this so called dark energy as it's often called this dark energy has a feature that is gravitationally selfie pulse of them wants to spread out by the way what is gravity as it is gravity is simply a function of mass no Newtons concept it was only a function of mass and so he only considered the only consider the effects of gravity on slow moving massive objects Einstein had to really we've devised the theory of gravity in order to make it consistent with his new theory of space and time what we call the special theory of relativity and so that meant that grabbed and in his theory gravity doesn't just act on mass it acts on all forms of energy even forms of energy that don't have mass like light for example even light bends in the present it has its past path bend in the presence of gravity according to Einstein's theory well if it's not a function of mass then why it's a function of energy and a function also of something that we call the pressure. So if you think of this being a gas it doesn't just depend upon the energy of that gas or the mass of that gas it also depends upon the pressure of that gas and Einstein's theory. Well and because it depends on both those quantities and if particular way it's possible that for some exotic forms of energy which are not in our everyday experience but which are perfectly allowed by the laws of physics it's possible to have combinations of energy and pressures such that that energy actually is self repulsive but what a lot of energy are used to have a pardon what kind of energy are you speaking of that. That would have this feature or well it would have to have a large negative pressure so it had to be a form of energy which by itself wants to implode rather than expand outwards and negative pressure what kind of pressure you're talking about some out of energy and some kind of pressure that I'm not grasping Ok So imagine that I fill a balloon with gas gas So 1st of all the particles that gas have mass and according to Einstein's theory that are ready contributes their energy equals mc squared In addition they have their moving rapidly so that adds to their energy further. And then in addition whenever the atoms are that hard gas or molecules that are hot gas impinge on the edges of the balloon they push outwards so they also have a pressure Ok according to Einstein's theory although both the both the mass the kinetic energy of motion and the pressure all contribute to the degree to which it gravitate so fill the universe with that gas and that and all those things not just the mass but all those things contribute to the strength of gravity All right one example I gave that kind of gas will cause the universe to slow down an expansion shouldn't Then we be or should we be able to extrapolate then for example stick our moon for example we know the mass of the moon as I think we know all going so we should be able to extrapolate based but it doesn't have any atmosphere it's missing many components that we have here on earth does its a simple simple mass conversion account for the amount of gravity on the moon if it does. So for the moon we'd have to the same calculation and we would discover that the mass alone accounts for. By far and away most of the gravity so using just the mass alone you do a pretty good job at ignoring all the other contributions that Einstein would have you contributed a clue there you would do an excellent job of predicting the motion of the moon but try that same experiment for mercury which lens rather close to the Sun which has a strong start we are closer to a stronger gravitational field and you would find that you would make a slight error in predicting the orbit of Mercury this is what was established government and the 19th Century of the mass for the masses non-linear something more subtle going on and it has to do with the fact that the mass alone is not the only thing that determines the orbit of Mercury it's a more subtle calculation using Einstein's general full general theory of relativity that's required using Newton's theory which just depended upon the mass and the distance just doesn't do the trick. Wow And then when you get to stronger forms of gravity the gravitational field is even stronger like in the presence of a large cluster of galaxies then you see John Mattick deviations from Newton's laws not you know do you could have even more dramatic deviations and then it turns out what we've discovered is that the universe is filled with a form of energy which is far from every day experience something with a very large negative pressure which cause which when you again when you put that into Einstein's theory says instead of doing what everything else we're familiar with does which is gravitationally attract this stuff actually gravitation repels and because it's most of the stuff in the universe it's causing the expansion of the universe to speed up now rather than yes but doesn't doesn't that sort of underscore something from nature in other words with any magnet everybody knows we've got you know 2 poles that attract and then you can reverse it and it repels So if we have the one force in nature then doesn't it make sense that we have this other force that you're describing that repels Well it's a little it's sound similar I realize it is this but it. But it's not identical it's subtlety Einstein's improvement of gravity that's been around since then even known since the 1917 but it's not like having an anti gravity in the sense of having a negative mass you know I was just a little more subtle kind of the more it's another level kind of effect that depends on the property of the gas that fills the universe not not there's not a not if charge or it's mass understudy if we understood the nature of this properly. Could you imagine that we could produce a craft or a craft could be produced that would manipulate gravity. So that to our eyes it would appear to be and I had a gravity or would be at a gravity. It's hard to meter dissipate how we would do that but in principle the universe already figured out how to do this and. The problem we would have is even how to gather up the stuff because it has a tendency to self repel it always wants to spread itself out but in principle one could use the same idea. If one could figure out how to concentrate this form of energy to produce a gravitational repulsion rather than attraction sun So in other words boiled down theoretically if what you're saying is saw regarding the substance that repels an understanding of that a grasping of it and then and then an application of it might produce what we would call an a gravity yet. So if you can imagine that today as a theoretical physicist. Just how many years do you suppose it might be before such technology you know begins to. Appear. Well. We're nowhere close to it so it's hard for me to anticipate. I say. But I've had a day to speculate I think we're probably talking about centuries even if you know you but but sure but you know if you'd have taken say a color television of today back to somebody in the 1920 s. Or something. They would have said Magic Well I think that's quite fair I think technology always proceeds faster than we anticipated but it's. We've just been hit by this shocking surprise in just the last 3 or 4 years and and we don't yet know what the nature of this dark energy is that fills the universe we're still speculating on what that is how we can get a very primitive stages right as we capture dark energy now now we can only see its effects on the average expansion of the universe we cannot we not been able to probe it in any direct way at all so far. What would it just never did exist and what would it take to probe what do we need a cyclotron what do we need. Well I think the 1st way we're going to probe it is is by observing more closely the way it's affecting the expansion of the universe to learn something more about its nature. There's different there's many different theoretical possibilities. For what. Dark energy might be and. And we end by observing more closely the way. Distant galaxies are expanding from one another today compared to the past we hope to begin to distinguish among the various possibilities. Need to measure the crudest aspects like the dark energy a constant energy source or is it one that changes with time and it changes with time and what pattern that will begin to give us some hints as to what its nature is Professor such a theoretical Dr as we talked about a few moments ago would it be more efficiently operated within a large field of gravity like like Arthurs many other planets or would it be more effective. In between. Are not effective at all in between and between galaxies and yes sure like water it probably feels pretty uniformly all in space we think of space as being empty in terms of being large separations between galaxies or large separations between stars yes but in fact what we've learned is it's not empty it contains both dark matter and predominately this dark energy and it certainly has its. Greatest effect there in terms of causing the expansion of the universe to accelerate some. You wouldn't have to be but say a few 100 years advanced from our civilization and perhaps begin to produce something like that but that. We're both speculating but perhaps. Well shouldn't there be lots of civilizations out there since we're speculating that would be at least hundreds of years beyond us I mean isn't that a reasonable conclusion mathematically sure. So you say Sure so that would mean then that there could be people with such craft. And you never know but that these things that are seen by people that are not explained could be how it could be I don't know that it would be the most efficient I mean I don't know fission this would be compared to other forms of energy that might be developed. But that should make a date every new discovery. And Einstein I guess began it all but every new discovery in in the area that you guys work seems to produce. So many good possibilities and usually a big bomb of some kind. Well I hope good possibility you know a good case neither arrow in there we had negative ways of using technology but. Fortunately so far humanity is figured out how to take advantage of the positive one more than the negative ones so far so good all right stay right there professor will be right back bottom of the hour I'm Art Bell this is coast to coast am the trip back in time continues with Art Bell hosting coast to coast am more Somewhere in Time coming up. With over 20 years in business no over 20000000 blind sold going stock com is the number one online reach. 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'd alright once again Professor Paul Steiner Professor look I'm I have a habit and I will try it probably push you to speculate when you want to so if you don't want to go somewhere I'm asking you go just tell me get lost don't worry about Ok but it seems so obvious I mean if you've got something that repulses as you were describing to understand and apply that technology would mean sort of a drive that a lot of people imagine might be used in a spacecraft some day I you know I think people have to appreciate the gravity of it is a pretty weak force we actually have an Andray gravity engine today right it's called a rocket and we find that's a very efficient way of pushing a lot of mass and into space Yeah but it's like taking a hammer to a fly though yeah but this may be an even weaker force in the ways Graeme grav all the forces of nature whether you talk about the nuclear forces that control nuclear processes or electromagnetic forces of all the forces of nature gravity is actually the weakest force and so using a gravity using some sort of dark energy as a gravity Taisha no engine maybe turned out to be very inefficient at I can't say but I would certainly be a can you imagine other ways of. Using an energy we don't yet understand to leave the planet without the use of chemicals and virtually a controlled explosion. I think if you said we don't understand it I think you're taking maybe out what I know Ok right I do want to understand your model you talk about the big bang and the Big Bang I think you believe is proof partially correct in a sense but you believe in the sick like model and I want to understand what this cyclical model is what what does that mean cyclical in what sense well Ok so. What we mean is that the Big Bang let's not call the Big Bang for the moment let's just call it the bang as said that the sudden heating of the universe was not a single time a vent but rather an event that was repeated over and over again that the universe has gone through cycles where it heats to some high temperature cools form stars and galaxies then enters a period as we're seeing today with Excel where the expansion of the universe speeds up this thins out the distribution of all matter and energy in the universe so that if you were to look around it would look empty just as you described and then a sequence of events occurred which begins that cycle anew creating new matter and energy creating new stars and galaxies and a new period of evolution and this could have repeated for many and perhaps even an infinite number of times in the past what happens to the present matter when this cycle comes about another word earth for example well ordinary matter such as Earth or ourselves it would be vaporized by the very high temperatures that are reached when the new matter of radiation is created we'd be very polarized we'd be vaporized. Lest we you know some future civilization found a way of protecting ourselves we would be vaporized would we see this coming or would it be virtually instantaneous to us we would we would have evidence that it was coming and I all really well the 1st thing would be happening which is the part that we're already seeing is that the universe is begins to accelerate that's a very very early warning maybe maybe trillion years maybe a trillion years ahead of us or a 100 trillion years ahead of us when this is the next cycle would be again good and as we get very close to it if you imagine some future if you know far future civilization they would notice something happening they would notice the expansion would come to a halt and they would notice that something is peculiar happening to the usual laws of physics that they would begin. They would begin changing form that the strength of gravity the strength of electromagnet his would begin changing as this event is approaching the laws of physics as we know them would begin changing in front of our eyes that's the way conventional Yes Yes And there's a sort of convention elementary textbook laws of physics would begin to change what is actually behind it all is a more subtle law of physics which incorporates the everyday experience but expands it to include facts that would be occurring at at this Could you describe what some of those effects would be too far out on a limb. I think we can describe to me for example. We know that the gravitational force depends has a certain strength associated with it like when I drop a ball to the Earth we know there's a certain strength to that gravitational force and that force would change its would be changing it would not be maintained the same value as it as it has today to what degree I mean to the point where eventually the ball wouldn't drop just in the case of in the case of gravity gravity would be getting stronger so would be pulling harder and harder and after a while be even hard to tell that you're exactly looking at gravity if not some other form of energy and that that last instant something to matter and radiation would be created and that would out of that energy so to speak it and everything would be getting heavier everything would be getting Yes in terms and in terms of gravity getting heavier Yes. What span of time do you imagine the cyclical tick to occur in one when it actually when the active part of it really began even though you say we're seeing signs now in the active part really came along how fast would it be. Well 1st of all there's the Excel period that we're into just began today when the universe has begun to accelerate and 6 Fanchon correct and that would last. A minimum of hundreds of billions of years perhaps trillions of years perhaps even longer than that so a very long time you're just saying it is only now just begun or we have just documented if we only just begun other words when the when the universe was forming its stars and galaxies we know that that during that period the universe had to have its expansion rate expansion rate had to be slowing down during that period otherwise it would be stretching so fast you could a former stars and galaxies so after the stars and galaxies have formed then only really. Going recently in a cosmic time scale has this period of Excel or expansion begun and it will pick up it will pick up speed over over the coming billions of years so every 15000000000 years or so now the universe is going to double in linear size or its volume is going to increase by a factor if you can be stretched by a factor of 8 and if you repeat that 15000000000 years 15000000000 years again and again freezing by 8 each time then after a trillion years already the universe will be the same essentially empty will not stretch apart this will not stretch apart our galaxy but that we will all the distant galaxies will of begin to disappear from our field of view so there's a. Way for mass of stars in the night sky will go away well our stars the night sky mostly in our own galaxy so they will not be stretched away from us they're bound by the strong by the by the clump of matter in the center of our galaxy Ok but that but distant galaxies are all the most the nebula that are really the distant galaxies they will recede from our feet field of view to a point where after after trillions of years they will be beyond where we can see. So in that sense we turn to a picture that one had a 100 years ago of the universe being an island universe a single clump of stars separated by empty space from the rest of the universe. Then so we'd see this event coming in again. At its moment of climax how would it be a very fast event or would it be over hundreds of years. The actual major event itself. I. I guess I would say the. Period when it becomes most begins to pick up drama is when the expansion rate after accelerating for a period begins to slow to a halt and that would be a big and that would be a hand that you're beginning and then you have about another 15000000000 years or so to go and at 1st the effect would be extremely subtle you know if you very careful instruments should be able to measure the fact that the what we thought were constants in nature are in fact slowly changing their magnitude and then it would pick up speed in the last few instance. And you'd have you'd have all that early warning detection that you could you could terminate something interesting and strange is happening where you would be able to for example project the point where life would be. As we know it over. Yes you'd be able to be able to compute the rate at which you're approaching this this new cycle yes. So you believe that this is always been going on that this this and urban renewal of everything we'll call it has been going on. For ever Yes. Well. There's 2 possibilities it could be forever and that is something we didn't think was possible and cosmology that there could be a forever in the past we thought we had eliminated always that might happen one of the things this theory does is it brings back that possibility but it also it's possible that there was a beginning and we kind of settled into this cycling behavior one other thing about the cycling behavior is that even if you start off a little bit away from it you imagine kicking the universe out of that cycle changing its expansion rate imagine you could magically do that it would actually settle back into it at a fairly in a fairly rapid succession so it could also be the universe began in some random state and settled into the cycling but then we've kind of lost the memory of at Universe is gone underground so much expansion and so many cycles since then we just can't we can't we can't detect the difference between forever or a beginning a long time ago that there is you know ambivalent on that point. Do you imagine life within all that we can see now to be a common thing on common intelligent life probable you agree with the math of the people who do the math on this that there ought to be intelligent life out there x. Number I mean we're finding planets now around suns and in all kinds of interesting things that was just there are going to be lots of environments where it could happen. Well I'm not an expert on this but I would say if anything. The probability our understanding of probabilities has. Called us to the probabilities are greater than we thought before yes because we discovered the planets are more common than we thought before we don't know about terrestrial planets yet but planets in general are more common around solar system I mean regionally supposed And we've also learned that the chemicals of life. I mean no acids no i Car more robust. Than we thought they can travel on meteors and travel over huge distances so all that suggests to me that that life is. For reasons we don't completely understand is is it a career a common phenomenon Ok having said that then here is his problem to ponder. Other than u.f.o. Reports we have we have no concrete public evidence of extraterrestrial life yet we've got SETI which has been looking to no avail yet I interview them frequently. Down a terrace where they're looking and listening very carefully and now they're even moving into the light spectrum so far nothing now would that suggest if life is common that life itself is cyclical and that the odds of by you know a technological society like ours blowing ourselves to smithereens are much higher than getting on down the road. Well I don't know another 1000000 years say even 1000000 years that's a long time. In other words that civilizations come and go sic likely and inevitably destroy themselves have you thought about that. Well I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about that but I think that. I think what I would consider 1st is that one has to have respect for just how vast space is that to travel any significant distance in the universe or to detect signals from any significant distance in the universe is is very difficult you know even travelling at the speed of light. It would it would take us. Tens of thousands of years to traverse. Our reasonable patch of our own galaxy and here to so that even if life is common in the sense of occurring in many places in the universe. It still might be extraordinarily difficult to to make contact with intelligent life. Just because given the vastness of space is just so far away from us that near the nearest neighbor is still very far away from us well that seems to me like more likely answer and yet there are people like you that imagine that we might travel great distances with the assistance of things like wormholes or. Event horizons of black holes or you know what whatever sort of jumping through. Again that's a very speculative area in which it's debated whether even in principle one can do that I mean it certainly has fueled a lot of science fiction movies. But I think we don't really know enough yet about gravity and the ways to harness it to know if that is even physically it is even theoretically possible physically possible. Maybe the answer is no in which case we're really stuck and moving around the universe at nearly light speed and that though it's incredibly fast in terms or everyday experience yes doesn't get you far and very far into the universe is basically going to keep us home or within a very close range of home yes it's a fundamental limitation that. Forced upon us so one certainly then has to contemplate the possibility that although we may get to other planets the likelihood of our reaching out really reaching out with what we can see in physics right now really presents us with a more or less hopeless situation certainly limits us to a small neighborhood so then what one might imagine that it would be possible that you would never ever or it it might even be probable that you would never ever contact other life even though we imagine it to be there. I think it. That may be the most probable situation given what we know at present genie if that's true we'd better pay more attention to what we're doing here yes. I think that you know. Are you optimistic or pessimistic with regard to. Our destroying ourselves you know we've got good old element 92 and even though the Cold War is you know not not scold anymore these weapons still exist in fact today it seems like we're worried more about mass death and we ever have been before and the threat seems bigger than it ever has been before perhaps not for total extinction although you can't rule that one out either so are you optimistic or pessimistic with the way things are going right now nuclear proliferation in mind and mass or weapons of mass destruction being billed at light speed all this sort of stuff going on are you generally optimistic or pessimistic Well I'm generally an optimist. And it's very it's an attitude it's a little hard to justify it in a detailed way but I generally feel that we have figured out more how to do good things than that and how to do bad things and when we've created these weapons of mass destruction. We. Have also figured out how to avoid using them that far in any and any. In any massively destructive way have you gotten that you know the incidence of usage over time but yes but I'm but I'm hoping there will not be global usages that really set civilization back. In time or perhaps eliminated altogether have you been involved in development of any aspect of atomic energy for weapons use you know you have not you know have you had the opportunity to do that. Not really it's really not my. Side my field of interest I understand but I given given the opportunity would that be a of interest to you or would you decline such an opportunity just out of curiosity . That's a difficult question. I mean at the present time where we're at peace it's very easy to for me to say that I would decline. Would there be certain that man and I can understand the circumstances under which they were developed when one felt that. Their civilization was being threatened by an evil and I mean. It would depend on the circumstances interesting answer Professor a hold on we'll take a break you're at the top of the hour and be right back from the high desert in the middle of the night like a freight train in the night this is coast to coast am this is premier networks that was Art Bell hosting coast to coast am on this somewhere in time.