We have a path toward victory. After big wins this weekend, can sanders steal hillarys momentum . Bernie sanders joins us live. And, an exclusive look at the fight against isis. There are jets, there are helicopters everywhere. Martha raddatz, on board the u. S. S. Truman. Taking you inside its campaign against terror. From abc news, its this week. Here now, chief anchor george stephanopoulos. And what a week its been. Super tuesday. And with votes in five states saturday, the race for president may be taking a new, dramatic for the gop, a big night for ted cruz. He trounced donald trump in the kansas caucuses, beating him by 25 points. Surprised trump in maine, too, with 46 , trump at 33. John kasich, marco rubio far behind there. Trump got two wins in the three points behind. And a tight finish in kentucky. Trump at 36 , cruz at 32. Delegates saturday than trump and tightened the gap in the overall race. Trump is at 378. Cruz, 295. Rubio, 123. Kasich trailing at 34. For the democrats, Bernie Sanders swept caucus states. Winning kansas handily. 68 . Clinton got 32 . He came out on top in nebraska. 57 for sanders, 43 for clinton. Not even close in louisiana. Clinton beat him 71 to 23. That added to her delegate lead. Shes now up overall by more than 200, even before you count the democratic superdelegates that give her an overwhelming margin. Back . Hes here to tell us. Thank you for joining us this morning. You were admirably candid last saying you got decimated. What is your take on last night . Well, i think we did great overall yesterday. Over two to one in kansas. We did very well in nebraska. There will be a caucus in maine. If the turnout is high, i think well win there. That means we would have won eight primaries and caucuses. What impresses me very much, george, its what i mean when i talk about a Political Revolution in kansas. They had the largest voter turnout in their caucus history. That was the case in colorado, where we won, as well. In fact, in every primary and caucus that we have won, we have won by doubledigit numbers. Were winning all across the country. I think geographically, were looking good. I think we have path toward victory. Youve still got that youre winning in these states that are overwhelmingly white, any state with more than 10 of the africanamerican vote, shes killing you. Well, i think youre going to well. And what we are noticing, and this is very interesting. Its not just racial. Its more generational. Were doing better and better with young africanamericans. Young latinos. Young whites. In many instances, were winning those demographics. With the older people, were not doing as well. And thats something that were going to have to work on. I think here in michigan, where theres a caucus coming up where theres a primary coming up on tuesday, i think the issues of trade, where nafta and permanent normal trade relations have decimated communities. All over michigan, all over illinois, all over ohio, i have helped lead the opposition to these disastrous trade agreements. Secretary clinton, by and large, has supported them all. I think that gives us momentum in the midwest. You put out a tweet this week. I want to put that up. It says the people of detroit know the real cost of Hillary Clintons free trade policies. It shows those abandoned is that really fair, though . Detroit has been hollowed out since the race riots in 1968. Well, what is fair, george. And honestly, i didnt know this until a week ago. That in 1960, it turns out detroit was one of the wealthiest cities in america. Flint, michigan, which today is mired in poverty, was an extremely prosperous city. There is no doubt, i dont think anyone debates this, that these disastrous trade policies have cost this country millions of decentpaying jobs and resulted in a race to the bottom where many of the new jobs being created pay significantly less than those jobs used to pay years ago. Thats the result of a disastrous trade policy. Im not going to say its the only problem that detroit or flint has. But its a significant part of the decline of the communities in america. Companies shut down. People low wages, bring their products back into the united states. Very bad policies for the american worker. At the same time, theres a new poll out this morning in michigan. The nbc marist poll. It still shows you pretty far back. 57 to 40. A lot of ground to make up in a few days. Its a funny thing about the polls, george. We started this campaign, as you well know, at 3 in the polls. 3 . We have come a very, very long way. Closing the gap nationally with secretary clinton. Im very proud that in many of these matchups that take place, sanders versus trump, clinton versus trump, you know who is doing better against trump . In almost every state weve contested. We started off in iowa, 50 points behind. New hampshire, 30 points behind. Won new hampshire, tied in iowa. Were closing the gap here in michigan. And i think were going to surprise people on election night. Math is working against you. Democrats have proportional representation. She has a 200point lead right now. A bigger lead than barack obama had over Hillary Clinton back in 2008. Dont you have to do something brandnew to try to change the dynamic . You would have to win by massive numbers in about every state. Heres what i think. Youre right. I mean your numbers are correct. But were still fairly early in the process. I think maybe 18, 19 states that have voted. We think we have an excellent chance to do well out on the west coast in california, state of washington, oregon. We have an excellent chance to do well in large states like new york. We think were going to surprise people here in michigan. So i think that time is on our side. Because, the more people get to hear our message, and that message is that we need to reform a corrupt Campaign Finance system. In which billionaires and superpacs are buying elections. Between secretary clinton and i, she has a superpac. Millions of dollars from wall street are coming in to her campaign. We have raised almost 5 million individual contributions averaging 27 apiece. People appreciate that. Theyre tired of superpacs buying elections. I think we have momentum on our side. More people hear our message, the better were going to do. Senator sanders, thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you. Were going to turn now to the gop. A tumultuous week for the republicans. Headlines describes a party in crisis as it deals with the rise of donald trump. Heres jon karl with more on the battle to control americas grand old party. Reporter even with his saturday stumble, donald trump just dared his rivals to try to unite against him. Marco rubio had a very, very bad night. I think its time that he drops out. Oh, do i want to run against just ted. Head, i beat donald trump. Reporter with two wins, cruz narrowed his gap are trump. At the end of the week where party elders hit the panic button. The hash tag never trump lighting up twitter. The republicans are eating their own. Reporter and something we have never seen before. The partys last two at the man on the verge of party. Donald trump is a phony. A fraud. Hes playing the American Public for suckers. He gets a free ride to the white house. And all we get is a lousy hat. Reporter now the partys power brokers are banning together the try to bring him down. Running scathing athds ds like this one on trump university. Donald trump made million. While hardworking americans got scammed. Reporter he also drew fire for flipflopping on torture and immigration. Im changing. Im changing. Reporter trumps rivals are holding out hope they can keep him from getting an outright majority of delegates before the marco rubio and john kasich are banking on winnertakeall prim mares in their home states, just nine days away. Were going to win florida. Were continuing to play the delegate math in this campaign. We understand this will be a different kind of primary. Where the delegates are going to count. Were going to win ohio. That will create a whole new ball game. Reporter if they both can beat trump on their home turf, a contested convention this summer could actually happen. The guy in second place says that could tear the party apart. They seized on this master plan. We go to a brokered convention drop someone in. If that would happen, we will have a manifest revolt on our hands. Reporter Republican Leaders i have spoken to believe last nights results are a sign that donald trump is losing momentum. And that a contested convention is now much more likely to happen. Its also the only realistic chance of defeating trump. It may all come down to the big days. 150 delegates up for grabs this tuesday, with michigan the one to watch there. And 367 delegates at stake on march 15th, with the biggest prizes, the winnertakeall states of florida and john kasichs ohio. If trump is going to be stopped, george, hes going to have to be stopped there. Okay, jon karl. Thank you very much. Lets go to governor kasich. Hes joining us as well. Thanks for joining us. Youre laughing . It sounds like a sporting event. A little bit. Like a sporting event. Statistics. The numbers dont lie. States. Last night, too. Three fourths and a third. How do you justify staying in the race . Well, first of all, george. We did better than anybody thought we would last night. We picked up delegates in three states. We have our game plan. You were there when you put your game plan together in the old werent as a broadcaster. We have our game plan. Our game plan was to do well in new hampshire. We achieved that. Did better than people thought in south carolina. We continue to pick up delegates. Were closing fast in michigan. Were going to have a good result out of michigan. Because you see, its like march madness. We have moved to the midwest. More to my territory. And it will be a whole new ball game. Ill be able to compete in a lot of these states. Lets face it. There are some places in the south, i didnt we just didnt compete there really aggressively. We didnt compete in caucuses last night. We still got delegates. So just hold on, george. Look at mississippi, michigan, ohio. Lets take one step at a time. You say michigan. Brandnew poll out this morning has trump at 41, cruz, 22, rubio, 17, youre in fourth at 13. Youre not closing the gap. No, thats you have your polls. And there have been a lot of other polls that are out. Just watch. We have a lot of momentum up there since that debate. People have been very positive. Days. And i can tell you that we are closing the gap. And you will see a better result and then, of course, we go to the Gravitational Center of the political universe in ohio. Ohio always is, that is for sure. Its amazing. That is your home state. If you look at the numbers, even if you win ohio, theres no realistic path for you to get the number of delegates you convention. Your entire strategy is a spoiler strategy, isnt it . Win ohio, broker the convention. No. Look, george. Lets talk about what the strategy ought to be. Who has the record and the of america . And to be the leader of the free world . Ive been endorsed now, i think by 30 major newspapers in this country. What do they all say . Hes the guy that can do this. Hes the guy that can bring people together. Were not running for class president. Okay . Secondly, my message is starting to really get out there, george. And you know, and i just had a commentator tell me the other day, if you dont start to get anywhere. You see, im not going to do that. And i think people are realizing and i tell them, lets send a interrupt you. This has been your consistent message all year long. Youre the experienced guy. The guy that can make the system work. Donald trump, ted cruz are promising to shake the system and theyre the ones getting the votes. Well, george, ive shaken the system up more than anybody that is on that stage. As you know. I have never been establishment. You know how many toes i had to step on to get the budget balanced in washington. To reform the pentagon take on defense contractors. What ive done in ohio. Im not an establishment guy. The problem is, you guys didnt give me coverage. For six months i wallowed at 1 in the polls. Why . Ive had you on the show ive had you on the show from the very first day you announced and you know that. You know im not just talking about you. You want to look at the numbers. The amount of coverage people get when they namecall . As compared to the discussion about policy and who can run the country. Fair point. Thats indisputable. You know that. So heres the situation. Look, im going to be competing up north. The calendar worked in the south. Didnt work great for me. We never worry ied about that. Our strategy was always to survive and get to the north. Forget the marist poll. I dont know who took it, what its about. If i thought it was true, i would tell you were not doing better. We are doing better. Were going to win ohio. Im going to be competitive all across the north. You said this already. You know youre banking on the possibility of a brokered convention would turn to you. Thats your only way to victory . George, no one is going to have the numbers. I would have to win 68 of the remaining contests. Marco would have to win 64, ted would have to win, 60. Donald trump will fall short. This is not like this is the way its going. If trump wins all the rest of these things, hell go to the convention with the right numbers. But if he doesnt have the right numbers, were in a multiballot convention. What is the big deal about that . Other than its exciting. And you know what, this year, is there anything else to be expected with the way things have gone this year . Lets just, ill tell you what will be great about it. I agree with ted cruz from the standpoint, we cant let a bunch of washington insiders pick the nominee. You know why . Because they dont like me. Plain and simple. But, think about how much education our kids are going to get about the way in which we pick a president. It will be fantastic in this country. So spending their time, you know, looking at some of these hollywood stars. Theyre nothing wrong with that. Now theyll spend more time thinking about how we pick a president. I think it will be very cool. Watching a Republican Party split apart . I think at the end of the day, the Republican Party is a reflection of the nominee. Frankly, i went to cpac. Conservative Political Action committee. They said, you know, kasich, we dont know if hes a conservative. I got two standing ovations. They were energized. I beat Hillary Clinton by 11 points, more than anybody else. We can get the crossover votes. And my agenda is i got a shock and awe agenda for the first 100 days of congress. So the fact is well bring the party together. I dont worry about that. I worry about making sure to get on your show so people can hear my message of Economic Growth and providing Economic Security for americans. You got it today. Governor kasich thank you for joining us. All right, george. Thank you. Are we headed for a brokered convention . Will it split the gop in two . 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Its american nationalism. I oppose hillary ideologically. If it comes to a choice between of two evils. The rise of donald trump set up a fierce debate on talk radio. Heres the man at the center of it all, glenn beck. Founder of the blaze. Glenn, thanks for joining us this morning. You bet. Youre part of the never trump camp. If you listen to the callers, it sounds like the gop splits no matter what. That theres though bridging this divide. The gop has one last chance to listen to the people. Um, and the people that and i understand it. Theyre very, very angry because the gop did not listen the first time around. They didnt listen to the ron paul people who are way ahead of the curve. Then the tea party people. They rubbed our nose in it. And they are tired. And they have created donald trump. The people are speaking clearly. Anger and nationalism. Nationalism has been done before in history. You can go for nationalism. You can go for anger. Trump is adolf hitler . With donald trump and his denominator and the anger in us. Adolf hitler. We look at hitler in 1940. We should look at him in 1929. He was the kind of funny, character that said the things that people were thinking. Where donald trump takes it, i have absolutely no idea. But, donald trump is a dangerous man with the things hes been saying. Now, the gop is playing unbelievable games right now. Trying to make sure they get and theyre trying to go for a brokered convention. Im against donald trump. But ill tell you one thing, if he gets close enough, and the gop tries to play games, i wont vote for donald trump ever, but ill stand with his right. Because the people have spoken. And what the gop is doing, theyre stirring things up ted cruz than donald trump. Youre supporting ted cruz. How does he bring the party isnt he as divisive in some ways as donald trump . I mean, look. Marco rubio is a really nice guy. Establishment and being told, same with kasich. We dont want a brokered convention. If those guys would get out, those votes would go right to ted cruz. Few would go to donald trump. The floor. And everyone counts him out. But this is the guy that George Washington said, in his farewell address, you dont go to the parties. This loyalty oath that the party is expecting everyone to take and then donald trump asks everybody to raise their hand yesterday for their loyalty oath was a little disturbing. I dont have a loyalty to parties. I dont have a loyalty to personalities. I have a loyalty to the constitution of the united states. George washington and our founders said, george constitutional con vepgs said convention said, let us raise a standard to which the wise and the honest can repair. Meaning, there will come a time where people dont know what to do. Youll run to the constitution. The wise and the honest run to the constitution. You dont believe its fair to deny donald trump the nomination if he has the lead. Going in of course not. Do you . You have a lot of people talking about a third party, including senator ben sass. If trump does get the nomination. What does that mean . Thats not necessarily thats not the games on the con vepgs convention floor. I wont vote for donald trump. I wont vote for Hillary Clinton. Anybody who says a vote against trump is a vote for Hillary Clinton, stop playing those game pip just saw one of the callers said, theyre the lesser of two evils. Well, im not going to vote for evil. I dont care if its lesser. Im not going to vote for it. Youre looking for a third option if trump gets the nomination . Yes, but not the options of the party to play politics and break us apart at the that leads to civil war on the floor and quite honestly, it could lead to civil war in the country. People believe in something. And thats what the gop has they believe in themselves. They believe in their own power. And they are using man to be able to entrench themselves in the power and the profit. You cannot continue to disenfranchise people and play with their emotions. Joining us. Thank you. Lets bring this now to the chair of the gop, Reince Priebus. Thank you for joining us this morning. You heard glenn beck who thinks your party is headed to civil war. Well, look. Weve got a process and ive said it repeatedly. Whoever has the majority of delegates is going to be the nominee of our party. Those delegates are are pobviously, inmanyases, bound to the outcomes of these and so, those those are the rules that are laid out. There are no plans to undo the rules. Or change the nomination process midstream. So, were going to be 100 for the nominee, george. Thats where i have always been. Thats what i have always said. But after last night. In the past, you have called the idea of a brokered convention an extreme hypothetical. After last night, it is a more real possibility that no one gets the 1237 they need before cleveland in july . You know, i highly doubt it, george. I mean, i just dont see that happening. It doesnt mean its impossible. It just means that, you dont know what next week is going to bring. Or the week after. Or a month from now. I would say if we have an interview in a month, and its a some sort of tied ed i think people Start Talking about it. I think these are hypotheticals right now. Go, i think. Maybe im off by a little bit. Its pretty close to that amount. Its a long way to go, george. I think its premature. Well wait and see what happens. The one thing i do know is were not going to have, if someone is going into the convention, and they have the delegates, theyre going to be the nominee. Even if they dont have 1237 . Well, they have to make sure they have 1237. I mean, obviously. But like im not going to do anything to prevent someone from getting 1237, thats not an appropriate role for the chairman. Im also not going to do things to make sure somebody gets 1237. Its up to the delegates and its up to the primary voters. In these states. That their will be done. Thats what we have to do in the process. I agree, there should be no activity that alters or plays games with that process. Youve got a lot of other most prominent this week saying theyll do whatever they can to stop donald trump. Hell not vote for donald trump. Glenn beck said hell not vote for trump. Are you facing the prospect where you have the potential nominee of your party being opposed by your previous two nominees and a previous president . And this is a little different angle. Thats different saying youre not going to support someone is different. And its their right to say those things and to do those things. Than taking it a step further and saying that the party, therefore, is going to do something inappropriate to create a scenario that is unfair at a convention. Thats not what were doing. But, to your point. Its up to them. If glenn and mitt romney and others dont want to support a certain candidate, thats within their right to do. Come. Well see what happens. Before i let you go. I want to ask you, you had this your party had this wellknown, called an autopsy, a review of the 2012 election where you came out with what went wrong and how to fix it. I want to play part of it. You said the Republican Party is one of tolerance and respect, and we need to ensure the tone of our message is always reflective of these core principles. In the modern media environment, a poorly phrased argument can reflect poorly on the party as a whole. If hays panic americans perceive theyre not wanted in the united states, theyll not pay pay tension to our next sentence. Boy, you look at the tone of the debate on thursday night. You see all of the top candidates now not for Immigration Reform but for some form of deportation. How did you get so far offtrack . Well, look. Its a contentious primary. Obviously, george, plenty of drama and intrigue. I agree. I hope that at the next debate, things are improved over the last debate as far as tone and rhetoric. And i agree with every word that you just read from our growth and opportunity report. I think its really important. I think dignity and respect is something that should be at the center of everything we do. Were all called to be salt and light in the world. And the words that come out of our mouths. Yeah, im on board with the sentiment you just read and what our party put out. I hope that the next debate will be a little bit of an improvement on that. Reince priebus, thank you for joining us. You bet. Thank you, george. More with the powerhouse roundtable. 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Mitt romney came out. Last night, ted cruz seemed to make headway. Where do we stand . At the end of the week . I think the biggest loser last night was the republican establish establishment. They lost badly. Marco rubio finished third or fourth. They put all the money and chips hes gone. Then they put all the money and chips into marco rubio. Hes on the verge of being gone. He has florida as one last stand. You look at this, the voting has taken place. The establishment, the outsider candidates have gone from 50 of the vote to 60 to 70 . In louisiana, they were 80 of the vote. In louisiana in the course of this. I think this race is becoming right now, a 2 1 2 person race. Who is the half . Roub rubio. No, i dont think rubio is. I think john kasich is the half. I think he has a better chance of winning ohio than marco rubio does of winning florida. I agree. First of all, i do agree with you that last night was a very bad night for marco rubio. I think getting in the gutter with donald trump hurt him. You dont outmudsling donald trump. You took the most optimistic, poetic speaking orator of the Republican Party and you turned it doesnt work. I think marco is much better organized in florida than people think. I dont think the gap is as big as some people expect. Florida is a huge state. Marco should and has the best organization. Where does that leave it, cokie ronts . If marco rubio wins florida, john kasich wins ohio, neither one does get a majority of the delegates. Then we do head to the convention. If they start winning winnertakeall primaries then we start heading to the conventions. And glenn beck was very interesting about that. Donald trump has a vast number of delegates, and the Republican Party tries to find some way to take it away from him, there will be civil war. And you know, the truth is, they have only themselves to thank for this. Thats one whole set of things. But the fact is is that donald trump was awful about mexicans, awful about muslims, awful about women, awful about the disabled, and they just kept their mouths shut. It took the ku klux klan to get the Republican Leadership to start to out this week, van jones. There seems to be some evidence that donald trump was slowed down by the events of last week. He didnt meet his poll numbers in any of the states last night. Right. Even in louisiana, lost to ted cruz on the votes taken yesterday, by a little bit. The great irony is, everybody says mitt romney cant affect anything. This cant affect anything. It turns out when everybody starts firing at a target, the target suffers. The problem is you wait for marvin march to do it. This is a full on phenomenon. This is an insurgency with deep authoritarian feeling to it. Once youve got that going in a country, any country, thats dangerous. I want to bring that to matthew dowd. Hold on a second. I want to bring that to matthew dowd. One of the things we have seen from donald trump, hes proven to be resilient. Over the course of this campaign. To take a hit and to come back. Theres been a pile on. Do his voters bring him back . Or is this the beginning of a spiraling down . I dont think it is a beginning of a spiraling down. Donald trump has been a powerful candidate. Hes a deeply flawed candidate. I think donald trump, at every moment in this race, has had an opportunity to rise faster, hes had an opportunity to Gain Momentum and start winning going away. But because of his own mistakes, his lack of discipline on certain things, his veering off keeps his cap down in the mid 30s or maybe even 40. Thats a problem in the course of this. I think if donald trump had conducted himself and spent time learning policy and maybe didnt say some crazy things in the course of this, donald trump would be running away with this. Hes beginning to cap himself. But, in a race that look like the way it looks like, he can pick up a lot of delegates. Is he still the favorite . Hes still the favorite. But now, the difference is, that ted cruz is the strong second favorite. While marco rubio and donald trump were engaged in a yo mama is so dumb contest for the last in the room, even though he has been, because nobody remembers hes there. Its been ted cruz. He had a good debate last week. Hes going all in in florida. Hes opening up ten offices in florida. Hell spend a lot of time there. Let me tell you. Its not about him winning florida. Its about him keeping marco from winning florida. But thats the question i have. If this strategy works for ted cruz and he hands the state to donald trump, what then . Then donald trump becomes the nominee. But hes gotten rid of rubio in the process. If he gets florida and ohio, its over. You know, were still fighting this thing. The fact of cruz is the other reason we are where we are. Dislikes ted cruz but also thinks he will bring the party down to disaster. Theyve allowed trump to fester on. Well, heres whats remarkable. In the democratic party, you if you look at the math, our rebels will probably lose. The question is do they stay in the party and support hillary or not . In the Republican Party, the rebels are going to win. The question is, will the establishment stay . What is such a remarkable repudiation of the establishment, usually, if you have rae bellon and the rebellion splits, the incumbent wins. Either of the rebel movements can win. The cruz movement is bigger. The Trump Movement is bigger. Heres a way to put a number on it. If you look at 538. Only 49 of republican primary voters are satisfied with donald trump. 79 of democratic primary voters are satisfied with Hillary Clinton. And theres less of a satisfaction with the numbers with ted cruz than donald trump. I talk about Donald Trumps flaws. Ted cruz has serious flaws. His path, this is the easiest part of his path, and hes still in second place. He goes into states relative. Just a second. Part of the partys problem is over the last 20 years, blue collar voters have made up who the Republican Party is. The elites and establishment have not paid attention. Theyve passed trade deals that the blue collar people dont like. Theyve passed tax policies which the blue collar people dont like. Theyve gone into wars that the blue collar people dont like. Now the blue collar people are taking over the party. You look where cruz won. Yesterday, in states where under 20,000 people showed up in maine. Caucuses. Caucuses, right. Closed caucuses. Closed caucus. Kansas, 72,000. Thats more. But still. Trump won, 225,000 in louisiana. 300,000 in louisiana. 225,000 in kentucky. Those are a whole lot more voters. Thats a big part of his argument. Hes bringing voters into the Republican Party right now. You mean trump . Yeah. We have ted cruz right now is the guy who has beaten donald six of the states, hes won outright. You are right, as a proud, cardcarrying member of the republican establishment, we dont like ted cruz at all. I can tell you. And everything is life is relative and about the choices in front of you. If the choice in front of us is donald trump or ted cruz, like linzie graham is saying, all of a sudden, this guy the growing maybe like mold, but growing nonetheless. Im much more afraid of donald trump than i thought i would be. Because of what he can do in the rust belt. He can go into a michigan, go into an ohio, go into a pennsylvania and say, Hillary Clinton signed nafta. Ill tear it up. That changes the math. He can go and talk to africanamerican voters. People assume africanamericans wont listen to trump. Theres a wing in the africanamerican party uncomfortable with mexican immigration and latino immigration for a long time. If it looks like donald trump will be the nominee though, do you see more mitt romneys or more Chris Christies . In what . What do you mean . Accepting or rejecting donald trump on the republican side . I think the establishment now is probably going to stand back and say, wow, we have made a bunch of bad bets in the course of this. Maybe us getting involved isnt helpful. I think going to the question you asked van is, is right now, the more the more stronger general election candidate for the gop, between the two of them is donald trump versus ted cruz when you look at the the bottom line is, youre going to see more of both. Some folks in the establishment not accepting or liking the idea of donald trump. But maybe coming to grips with it, breathing into a brown paper bag. And thinking they can influence him. Since there are two parties here, i would like to say a little bit about the democrats. I think Bernie Sanders has a shot in michigan for the same i think Hillary Clintons big weakness there is her support for free and not fair trade. If bernie can break through and appeal to africanamerican workers on that basis, it starts to change the character of his election. He still doesnt get elected. Heres the deal. Heres the deal. Beyond this victory, hes still there. Howard deans organization became democracy for america. Obamas became organizing for america. Theres a future for sanders. Everybody other than trump has. The same idea. Hes won states again. Yesterday, he won states with 29,000 votes. 28,000 votes. And she won hes the finest expectation. Thank you, that was great. Coming up, this weeks exclusive look at the antiterror campaign with Martha Raddatz. Coming up, im Martha Raddatz on the deck of the uss truman in the persian gulf. At the heart of the fight against isis. Overseas now to Martha Raddatz. Who spent the week in the persian gulf on the uss truman. She brings us this exclusive inside look at the crucial effort to wipe out isis. Three, two, one. Tickle. Reporter theyre flying in the dead of night over enemy territory. Armed with thousandpound bombs, zeroing in on their target. We only have the 30minute window. Reporter we followed this heartpounding, breathtaking mission with the Fighter Pilots crossing iraq into syria. Through a gathering storm. Whatever you can do to avoid some of the weather. Reporter we joined the Mission Hours before. On the uss harry s. Truman. Even from high above, the navys massive Aircraft Carrier delivering a powerful message. Deployed to the persian gulf, the truman is the mother ship of the carrier battle group. And the heart of the fight against isis. Home to more than 5,000 sailors and a jawdropping amount of military might. This is what they call the bomb farm. Hundreds of precisionguided weapons. Millions and millions of dollars worth of ordnance waiting to be loaded on to the aircraft. Rear admiral brett batchelder, an f18 Fighter Pilot himself, commands the battle group. It seems to have intensified in after the attacks in paris, an uptick in the aggressiveness. Stream of tasking since we have got here. And fly sortis up into syria and iraq every day. Reporter that constant stream has meant more than 13,000 flight hours since the ship was deployed in november. When the Flight Operations are launched or lands every 60 to 90 seconds. The last 18 seconds of the landing on the Aircraft Carrier is the most critical. When they call the ball. An aviator term for essentially lining up the jet so that the tailhook will catch the steel wires on deck and bring the jet to a screeching halt. Landing on a moving target, the length of a football field, is a dangerous and delicate maneuver. Miss it, and you have nanoseconds to pull up and try again. But to the pilots of Strike Fighter squadron 25, its routine. You have heard the phrase, lets be brilliant at the basics this is a pretty Standard Mission for us. We should be able to execute flawlessly. Reporter lieutenant charles wickware. Call sign wingnut and john hiltz, call sign johnny kittens have more than 800 carrier landings between them. Let me start with you, commander. You outrank him. Im taller, too. Not by much. And not by much. Reporter the duo likes to joke. But theyre some of the navys best pilots. Wickware has been in the navy 11 years. Growing up in hawaii and started flying gliders when he was just 14. He wanted to be a pilot for as long as he can remember. So did john hiltz. A kentucky native, he played basketball for notre dame before joining the navy, where he would be chosen for the elite Blue Angels Demonstration Team before were going to take ammo. Reporter tonight, Lieutenant Commander hiltz leads the detailed mission brief. We are allowed to hear it. Were going after that Oil Infrastructure in syria. There will be thunderstorms that may impact the execution. We have a 30minute window to execute. Well make sure we do so. Reporter the pilots gear up. The gforce suits. The oxygen masks and helmets. Do you have rituals before you go up . Go to the bathroom. Say a prayer. Been a hawaii howlie boy, i give the chaka after i give the salute. Reporter they head for the jets just as the sun goes down for the final check. You have been in afghanistan and iraq before. Is it different going after this kind of enemy . I think it is. You dont have as Many American forces on the ground. I think that makes it more important to be more precise. Its more difficult. You dont have as many eyes on the ground to develop the targets. Have a safe flight. Rule of engagement are too restrictive to the mission . I dont. Its very important for us to integrate with those forces on the ground, and make sure were a part of the solution, and not operating in a way that is in any way careless or cavalier. Reporter the weapons are loaded. Final check complete. The mission is a go. Lieutenant wickware gives the sign. And hes off. Catapulted from 0 to 160 miles an hour in seconds. Thats the one element where youre almost completely out of control. The few seconds that it accelerates you down the catapult stroke. The length of a football field. Sometimes you have no stars and no horizon. Youre launched into darkness. Reporter that target, the oil pipeline in a remote area of eastern syria. An effort to cripple isis financial resources. Target, the jets must refuel. Midair. Connecting with a tanker to gas up. Your left side joining. Reporter the pilots guiding their probe into the tankers basket. Tens of thousands of feet in the air. Youre over hostile territory, running out of gas. So you need to get that gas. If you dont, we cant complete the mission. Worse, we rip off one of our fueling probes. Then we cant refuel in that case. Whatever you can do to avoid some of the weather would be great. Well try that. Looks like theres a gap. We can shoot there. Not sure. Reporter an intense storm makes the refueling process harder. Lightning strikes illuminate wickwares night vision. 61 in range. 62 in range. Reporter but finally, with the jets again ready to go, the target is in sight. Three, two, one, pickle. Thought at you release, a 1,000pound weapon. Reporter the two pilots release their weapons simultaneously. Hitting the target with a quick, intense flare. But the mission is not over yet. You still have to come back and land on a moving Aircraft Carrier deck at night. Really nobody else around the world operates at night the way Americas Navy does. Did not expect that approach. It is an intense rush. At nighttime, your eyes can play all sorts of tricks on you in the dark. You have to rely on your training to be able to focus. Turning in for final bearing. While youre doing it, you dont realize how amped up you are. Your body is flooded with adrenaline. Once the aircraft comes to a stop, thats when your legs start shaking and you really start to feel if the effects. Reporter we met up with the pilots seconds after landing safely on deck again. It was not exactly routine. We had to climb above a thunderstorm. And then to employ, we had to drop down below it. Below the weather so we could so it was not as scripted. But we got the results we wanted. You get used to those kind of changes. Reporter youre used to things not going exactly. That comes with experience. Things not going as planned. Reporter but as the military moves closer to trying to help take back major cities under isis control, the danger will only increase. Every time we take the sky, theres risks that are placed on us throughout the world. Reporter and with an unconventional enemy hiding among the civilian population, expect the targeting to become more difficult, as well. George . Thank you, martha. Thanks for the reminder of what and before we go, some good news. Overseas in the month of february. That is all for us today. Thank you for sharing part of your sunday with us. Check out world news tonight