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There was one tiny clue that didnt fit at all. The inscription said, love always, cori and ryan. So they wanted to find out whos ryan . Whos cori . Said thats like looking for a needle in a haystack. The trail would lead hundreds of miles away to a chilling piece of evidence. That mustve been a shocker to have it cross your desk . Pretty much sends a chill down your spine. I killed someone. He was older. I loved it. Pretty scary. A sinister story, but not even it revealed the whole, twisted truth. I know what happened. No one will believe me. Its like, is this really happening . I didnt think i could feel so much anger. Reporter it was late, past midnight, when the farmhouse loomed up in their headlights. No sign of life. Not to them, anyway. He hit the brakes. This was the place. They grabbed their weapons, headed for the house. A window unlocked. Pay dirt. The prairie takes on a sweet, rolling pitch as it tucks into a nebraska corner an hour south of omaha. Here the rich black soil has grown solid and faithful american. A tiny remnant who have planted themselves in and around a place called murdock, the sort of place where heads turn when a stranger drives by. And a familys name is carved on a local stone. It was Easter Sunday, 2006. A big farm yard and like every year, an Easter Egg Hunt. Grandma and papas yard. Reporter or mom and dad to tami who brought her own son, like always. Y found their easter eggs. They found their Easter Baskets. Mom always made every individual Easter Basket special to that child. Reporter they were like that where wayne and sharmon stock, generous, steady, always there for their children. The eldest steve and daughter tami, the youngest andy. They were loving parents. I dont think they ever missed a game of any of ours. Dad would stop farming just to be at a game. Same way with mom. Reporter wayne stock was a businessman farmer. Ran the stock hay company, and a very successful business it was. Wayne owned a thousand acres of land along with rental property. Sharmon was locally famous for her specialty cakes, wedding and otherwise. They were church youth leaders. Keith served on the school board. Busy people. Yeah. Very, very. They touched the lives of so many people. Reporter she was a teachers aide for 17 years at a rural school. Taught lessons also that didnt end in class. One thing i always heard from mom was take responsibility for your actions, be responsible. She would praise you and just keep pushing you to do better. She always wanted us to be better people. Reporter and then came that Easter Sunday, 2006. Church services, a big family dinner, that Easter Egg Hunt for the grandkids. Their last day on this earth. Cant forget that one day. My kids remember it. They talk about it all the time. Reporter i suppose as last days go, that wouldnt be a bad one. No, it wasnt. Reporter andy had missed the easter party. Spent the day with his future inlaws but left his young puppy with his parents. Called mom and dad on my way home. And said im going to come get the dog. They said, oh, no, he can just stay here. Hell be fine. You know, he sleeps on the porch. And well watch him till monday morning. Reporter would history have been different had he listened to his parents . Hard to know, of course. They met me on the deck at the back of the house. And we talked about easter and what they did, and they each gave me a hug and i went home. Reporter you remember that moment, it makes you feel pretty emotional, doesnt it . Yeah. Yeah. Reporter next morning, andy, who was being groomed to run stock hay himself some day, drove the half mile from his place to his parents farm, ready to go to work. I drove in and i went in the shop. And dads pickup was there, which i thought was a little bit strange. So i thought, well, ill see if he took moms car somewhere and looked in the garage and her car was there. Picked up the phone in the house. There was no dial tone. Thats when my heart kind of sunk that for some reason was a little bit of a trigger in my mind. Reporter something was wrong. Something was wrong. I thought i better go upstairs. As i started up the stairs, there was some blood on the walls and, you know, i knew it was bad. Reporter its got to be surreal a moment like that. Does your mind even register . No. I think the good lord protects us. Reporter yeah. Till i rounded the corner, and saw dad laying there on the floor. And it was a horrible thing. Reporter it was perhaps the central moment in his life so far. Nothing would be the same after this. What did you do when you found out . I never made it past the landing. My cell phone was out in my pickup, and just turned around, went to call for help. Reporter the ambulance was there in 12 minutes. Their first lawman in 20. Andy stood outside in shock, calling family without even knowing what happened or what to say. Andys wife and i work together. She answered the phone call. And she didnt even recognize andys voice. And theyve been together for nine years. Reporter your own wife. She came in the back and said, tam, somethings wrong. Andy just called and said come quick. Dads laying in a pool of blood. Reporter but like the rational farm folk they are, 30 miles away and close to the nearest hospital, they did not assume the worst. Even when they tried to call back andy, who now wasnt answering. We were both like somethings really wrong. And the minister called and said, you need to come home. And i said, im not going anywhere until you tell me whats wrong. And they said, your mom and dad have been killed. And i think i did start screaming. And we headed towards the farm to be with andy. Never in a million years would you think that youd see your parents house taped off by that yellow tape. Reporter it was a stunning crime. Big news throughout the midwest. The stocks the most unlikely victims. Wayne found on the upstairs landing dead of a shotgun blast. Wife sharmon murdered in her own bedroom. A telephone in hand as if trying to call for help. The county sheriff advised caution. Right now this is an unsolved homicide. Whether its somebody local or somebody from another town, we dont know at this time. Reporter who could have murdered wayne and sharmon stock . And why . Crowd noise ] whoa. [ gears stopping ] when your pain reliever stops working, your whole day stops. Try this. But just one aleve has the strength to stop pain for 12 hours. Tylenol and advil can quit after 6. So live your whole day, not part. With 12 hour aleve. Construst number one doctor recommended dulcolax use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. Dulcolax, designed for dependable relief honey, arent we having friends ovi know [goat noise]e. I stole the other teams mascot for good luck. 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Just a couple of hours after wayne and sharmon stocks son discovered their bodies in their rural Nebraska Farmhouse on Easter Monday 2006, the word got around. Law enforcement swarmed the scene, neighbors expressed shock in that understated midwestern way. Theyre just typical Nebraska Farm background people, and you wouldnt expect it. Reporter andy stock, as you can see in these pictures taken on that very day, stood next to his pickup in utter shock waiting for his brother and sister to arrive. And he struggled to process it all. As his fathers words echoed in his mind. Ill never forget july of 05. Dad and i were working together. We were standing there, and he looked at me and he said, son, he said, when its my day to go, hold your head high, keep living life. Ill never forget that. Reporter but it was all happening so fast. Wayne and sharmon stock had been gunned down in the safety of their own home, the sanctity of their own bedroom. Why would anyone want them dead . And who . Andy was the last to see his parents alive, the one who found their bodies in the morning, which made him, bizarre though it sounds, a potential suspect. Before i even saw steve and tami, they had put me in a car and took me to another town and questioned me in a room. Reporter trying to establish whether or not you were involved. Yeah. Did gunshot residue tests. Like is this really happening . Reporter andy stock didnt realize it at the time but investigators were soon looking hard at him. After all, he was there, he had opportunity and he may have had motive. He might have had something to gain from his parents death. Why . Andy stock was the already designated heir to the stock hay company, which some people might consider a family fortune. Investigators questioned andy, csi units were busily working the crime scene as well. It was a very brutal crime scene. It was one of the worst ive ever seen. Reporter one of those leading the investigation . David kofoed, the head of the csi squad in douglas county. From omaha, an hour away, he was called in to help the smaller Cass County Sheriffs Department. What really bothers me is that these two people were just sleeping in bed and the male victim was apparently crawling away and he was shot in the head. Clearly an execution. Reporter close up. Close up. And the female victim was along the side of the bed holding a phone in her hand, and she had been shot in the eye at close range. Reporter investigators found out pretty quickly how the stocks killer or killers who entered the house. A screen had been lifted, a window appeared to have been forced open leading into the laundry room. From there it appeared the killers route might have gone past the now empty Easter Basket sharmon had made, through the well kept kitchen, then up the stairs to where the stocks lay sleeping. Four shotgun shells leaving a trail to the bullet. Wayne tried to get up but was shot in the knee. It left a huge powder burn on the bed. Then wayne was shot in the head. Sharmon killed, too, as she tried to call 911. Then it became apparent, it wasnt just one killer, but at least two. When we did the blood pattern analysis, we saw a void area at the top of the steps. Reporter which could only mean one thing. As one of the killers fired at wayne stock from behind, this area, called a void area, was where another killer would have been standing. The second killer sprayed with blood spatter instead of a wall. Kofoed and his team found a wealth of evidence outside the house, too. It was a big farm operation. And there was a lot of out buildings and it was complicated by the fact that theyd had an Easter Egg Hunt the day before. So we had a lot of shoe prints and stuff. Reporter but one print stood out. I saw a shoe print in the mud that was unusual. By a flower bed near the front door. Reporter and beyond the flower bed, there was a virtual trail of evidence left by the likely killers. In a gravel driveway, there was a marijuana pipe and about ten feet from it, there was a flashlight, and those two things were obviously out of place. Reporter you could sort of imagine the Television Show csi. Right. Reporter theres a light, oh, theres a its just too easy. But there it was. It was there. I think one thing i knew pretty much right at the beginning was i could visibly see blood on the outside of the flashlight. We knew that had to be involved. Reporter but then a real breakthrough. A Newspaper Carrier called in to report that he and his girlfriend saw something. Theyd been driving down this country road middle of the night about a mile from the stock farmhouse down there. And just here outside this cemetery, they saw a car just parked here. Strange cars just dont get parked on country roads outside murdock, nebraska, at 3 00 in the morning. It was tan or light brown, fourdoor sedan said the young man. And what really stuck out was that this car later passed them in the same area that same night. This time driving 60 or 70 miles an hour. It was in a rush, it appeared, to get away. Investigators now had a number of clues. That car, seen by the Newspaper Carrier. The flashlight with what appeared to be blood on it. The marijuana pipe. And detectives were probably looking for more than one killer. But a motive . Who knew . Not a thing was missing. Wallets, purses, gun collections, even a safe hidden in the bedroom floor, all untouched. But all that evidence. And asking questions of those closest to the stocks would soon pay off because just a week later an arrest and a confession. And another shattering blow to the stock family. The stock family. And the reason the the tough times are easier. Because shes your best friend and your true love. Presenting the ever us twostone diamond collection. 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They said sharmon had a dislike for matt. The stocks oldest son steve i think in my head i went to it a little bit just knowing that they hadnt gotten along real well. I had my own suspicion. Reporter just two days after the murders, detectives visited matt livers former employer, asked about his personality, rumors that he had a temper. They put a watch on him and went through his garbage, too. This was in lincoln, about 30 miles from the murder scene. Then eight days after the bodies were discovered they asked matt livers to come in and answer some questions. Youre free to leave at any time. Im here to cooperate with you gentleman. Reporter he was unerringly courteous, deferential to the two detectives questioning him. Said hed never been interviewed by police before. What do you think happened . I dont have any idea. I would like to know why. Who, what, when, where and how and why . You know, why would somebody do this to such good people, very christian people . Very likable people. Reporter livers told them after the big family dinner with the stock, he drove home the half hour to lincoln where he stayed all night with his girlfriend sara and saras young son and a roommate. He did admit to having disagreements with his uncle wayne over the various family issues, but those were minor, he said. Any problems between you guys . Years ago we kind of had a tiff. Yeah, but you know, thats been done, forgetting. Reporter matt livers agreed to take a polygraph. Do you know for sure who caused the death of wayne stock . No. Reporter if he was looking to clear himself of suspicion by taking that test, it did not have the desired effect. Your subconscious body is telling the machine. You cannot fool it. I didnt have anything to do with this. You did. I did not. You did. No, i didnt. Reporter for hours they locked horns with livers. Despite his continued denial of involvement, they knew he was lying. Weve had too many people sitting in that chair that think theyre smart and theyre not. No. Youre dumb as a brick. Okay . You made a mistake. And you got to pay for it. Reporter why were investigators here in nebraska so convinced matt livers was lying . Well, besides the polygraph, there was the state profiler who suggested that this is the sort of crime committed by young males who know their victims. How else would they know to find the farm house way out in the middle of nowhere if they didnt know them . And add to that, said the profiler, this is the sort of crime that appeared to be very personal. An execution. Matt livers rang those bells, all of them and rang them loudly. Eventually, detectives got quite explicit, telling livers he was headed for death row. Unless he would start giving them what they knew to be true. You dont admit to me exactly what youve done, im going to walk out that door and do my level best to hang your ass from the highest tree. Youre done. This is your one shot. We put the olive branch out right now and attempt to help you. Okay . Electric chair, gas, lethal injection. Reporter it was that technique that produced the desired effect. Rough, perhaps, but matt livers started confessing. You got a gun. Right. And you took that gun back to your uncle and aunt sharmons house, right . Right or wrong . Come on now. Right. Reporter now that the cat was out of the bag, livers began filling in more of the blanks. How the murder went down, for example. You put the gun to her face and blew her away. Okay. And then as i headed out, i just stuck it to him and blew him away. Reporter then a bonus. Remember how that blood spatter indicated a second killer was involved . Well now before they trooped him off to jail, matt livers gave them a name to match the void on the wall. 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Reporter and hed named an accomplice. 22yearold nick sampson. A cousin of matts on another branch of the family tree. My husband had given me the phone. I was sitting up in bed. And i said, andy, should i be shaking . He said, thats normal, the shock. Reporter but matt livers had been with them at easter dinner just a few hours before. Now he said that he and nick had returned to kill his aunt and uncle. Our first reaction was grandma she had had just lost her only son and her grandson is being arrested for this. And just like us, shes like, i dont understand. And i said, grandma, none of us understand any of this. Reporter did it give you any sense of at least somebody has been found responsible . Did it make you feel any better . We move on to the next phase of this. Were in the going to wonder for the rest of our lives. I was relieve to n they had somebody. Reporter with livers already in jail, police descended on murdock to arrest nick sampson. He was a cook at bulldogs bar in murdock. He was a guy by his own admission liked to drive too fast, had a problem with marijuana as a teenager, had done two separate stints in boys homes now he had been printed and processed, then like livers, questioned on videotape. I guess ill just ask you flat out. Why do you think youre here . I think they think that im involved with the murders. Reporter but unlike his codefendant. I had absolutely nothing to do with this. Reporter during three hours of questioning, did not confess to anything. If somethings left at that house, okay, with your dna and your prints, how are you going to explain how it got there . Im not. Because i dont think you have my dna anywhere near that house because ive never been in that house. Never, ever, once in my entire life have i ever been in that house. Reporter he agreed to take a polygraph. But again it wasnt quite what the accused hoped for. The polygrapher showed that sampson was deceptive when he denied being at the home when wayne was shot. And investigators seized on that to ratchet up the pressure. You were at the house when he was killed. No, i was not. Your bodys telling me otherwise. We need to get past that. Whats going on there . I honest to god was not at the house when they were killed. Reporter but the investigators did not believe nick sampson. After all matt livers had already told them nick sampson was behind the whole thing, that the two of them actually planned the crime together on their cell phones in the two days or so before the murder. And so, said the detectives, they were pretty sure. Matt livers was telling the truth. Nick sampson was lying. You were there when they were shot. I was not there. I want you to understand how the system works. I do understand. Im getting framed for something i didnt [ bleep ] do. Reporter but it didnt look good for nick sampson. He denied being a marijuana user any more, but he had had trouble with the drug before. And investigators found that marijuana pipe at the scene. When detectives visited nicks grandfather in murdock, the old man told them that a month ago nick borrowed a 12 gauge shotgun from him, the same gauge weapon that was used in the murders. Then investigators executed a search warrant at sampsons home in palmyra. Among the items seized, from under the bed, that 12 gauge bore ode from his grandfather, and a pair of blue jeans, examined by csi chief david kofoeds team. We had a pair of pants. It look like it had blood on it. We tested that with phenolphthalein and that tested positive. Reporter then there was more. Remember that car seen by the Newspaper Carrier parked a mile from the farmhouse the night of the murders . Detectives had found it, they believed. A 1997 ford contour owned by nick sampsons brother. And it had been cleaned and detailed actually at 5 30 Easter Monday morning just hours after it had apparently been used in the murders. Who details a car at 5 30 in the morning . Thats exactly why the detectives thought it was pretty suspicious. Reporter but wait, it gets even better. The car had been searched for evidence once and nothing was found, but then csi chief kofoed got a lead from one of the investigators. When matt confessed, he said he threw the shotgun in the backseat of the ford contour. He said maybe you can find some transfer evidence there. Take another look at it. I said, well, maybe we missed it. Reporter so they examined the car again. And this time, lo and behold, a stain was found just below the Steering Wheel on the dashboard. A stain found by csi chief kofoed himself. I just took it along that edge and wiped it because i figured that way i wouldnt miss anything. And it reacted. Reporter so you got a hit, though . I got a presumptive positive, yes. 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And hed named an accomplice, his cousin, 22yearold nick sampson. So the Cass County Sheriffs Department called in the press and announced that one of the most shocking crimes in this part of nebraska in decades was solved. People ask us is this closure on the case. Its not. Its another chapter, turning a page. Reporter though he was right, the sheriff had no clue just how much work there was yet to be done. But for the stocks children, the arrest brought a small measure of relief, at least they decided they could try to move on, as they knew their parents would have wanted them to. I could hear mom and dad say, tami, you can let this eat you alive or you can go on and be the best that you can be and do what needs to be done. And that is family. And so we can dwell on it, but we choose not to. Because thats not what mom and dad would want. Reporter now the system could grind forward, too, and the system provided Defense Attorneys, jerry soucie for nick sampson, julie bear for matt livers. First thing he says is, look, i told them i did this, but i didnt do this. And youve got to believe me. Reporter they all say they didnt do it, right . Ive been lied to a lot as a defense lawyer. So the cynical side of me goes, mmhmm, right. Reporter yet bear and soucie were puzzled, too. There were things that just didnt quite add up. Both nick and matt and their livein girlfriends swore up and down that on the night of the murder they were at home asleep 25 miles away. And nick claimed, despite what the cops believed, hed never talked to matt by phone or in person the week before the murders. What . The first thing i simply was concerned about was what was the evidence against nick sampson, regardless of whether he did it or not . I just had to know what the evidence was. Reporter then quite by chance, this tiny piece of what seemed to be evidence showed up. Police missed it the morning after the murder. One sharpeyed cop just happened to notice it a couple of days later. It was this gold ring on the kitchen floor. I thought somebody took it off to wash their hands and fell down and they forgot about it. Reporter but at the time it could have belonged to the victim. It could have. Reporter except one thing people should know about the stock house, nothing was ever out of place. So one of the investigators picked up the ring, bagged it and tagged it as evidence. It was a size 10, a mans ring, bearing a message. The inscription said love always, corey and ryan. They wanted to find out who was a ryan and who was cori. Reporter who was cori and who was ryan . They asked the stocks children, nobody knew anybody by those names. Didnt recognize the ring either. But as they were arrested and put in jail, one of kofoeds officers kept puzzling about that ring. On the inside were three tiny letter, aaj. The manufacturer perhaps . Well, yes. Turned out to be a place called a a jewelers, buffalo, new york. I remember one of the girls in shipping had indicated that there was a call from somebody in the Nebraska Police department. Reporter mary martino was running what was left of buffalos a a office just then. Why what was left . The places with going out of business. Massive layoffs. 200 jobs lost. By the time nebraska cops started calling, mary was one of only three people left to clean up the Buffalo Office and close it down. And now, here was this investigator asking mary to track down a ring the Company Likely shipped years ago. And you said what . You got to be kidding . I said thats like looking for a needle in a haystack. However, she mentioned homicide. Reporter and thats when mary martino heard about the ring and the double homicide and the fact that nobody else at the company seemed able to help. She said she had made several attempts and no one was willing to assist her. Reporter so mary martino said shed see what she could do. Certainly her company would have taken the order, made the ring, inscribed it love always, cori and ryan and shipped it, but where . Mary went to the warehouse where tens of thousands of back orders were kept. So i started with just box number one, stores 1 through 25. Then box number two, stores 25 through 30. Reporter and you went through each one . Yes. Until i got to like 100 and i believe it was 108 or 118 and i said, this is going to be impossible. Reporter so mary asked for help. Had a colleague make a computer grid of the more than 3,000 stores a a shipped to across the country. A block of dates when the ring might have been ordered, and cross matched that with the inscription. How long did that process take . It took me probably three days and two nights. Reporter does that seem a little over the top . I mean, you can look for an hour or so and say, i cant find it, sorry, and that would be that. I heard homicide. I heard it was important. Reporter and lo and behold, after three days of searching, suddenly, there it was. I got up from my chair and i said, bingo. I found it. I found it. Reporter any specifics about what you found out on that order form, where it was sent. Do you remember that . It was wisconsin. I do know that. Reporter wait, wisconsin . Not nebraska . Actually, it was quite specific. The ring was sent to the town of beaver dam wisconsin to this walmart store. This is where a girl named cori bought the ring for a boy named ryan. But it wasnt love always, and the ring was soon gathering dust in the cab of ryans red pickup truck. But then the strangest thing happened. The truck was reported stolen from here on ryans farm just a few days before the murders of wayne and sharmon stock in far off nebraska. Really nothing more than a standard missing vehicle. Reporter jim roarer was then a detective back in dodge county, wisconsin. When the call came in, it suggested some local joy ride, theyd find it nearby. Instead, what a surprise. Our dispatch had received confirmation from a parish down in louisiana that they had the stolen truck. Reporter stolen in wisconsin and abandoned way down in louisiana. Thats a long way to go. What did you think . A couple kids on a joy ride. Somebody taking it that needed to get back down south for whatever reason. Reporter it wasnt long before they fingered the suspected thieves. There were two of them. The guy was greg fester, age 19, with a history of drug use, suicide attempts, anger issues. Fester was on probation for weapons and Disorderly Conduct convictions. Greg was a little odd. He seemed a bit slow. Just didnt seem to grasp things quite as well as a typical person. Reporter festers alleged accomplice was a 17yearold named jessica reid. A former honor roll student and cheerleader turned troubled teen after a divorce. Shed become mixed up with drugs and, by extension, fester. Not exactly master criminals, were they . No. Not by any sense of the word. Two teenagers from wisconsin whacked out on drugs and not knowing what the hell they were doing. Out of control. Reporter but the detective had no idea just how out of control these two had been. Or where their stolen truck had taken them. And that, a few weeks later, is where the ring came in. Thats when roarer got a call from nebraska, heard how that ling turned up at the scene of a double murder, heard how they tracked it back to the walmart in beaver dam and then to cori and ryan and the stolen truck. That must have been a shocker to get that information, to have it cross your desk. A huge shocker. That pretty much sends a chill down your spine. Reporter what was going on . How were these two teenagers, reid and fester, tied to the murders of wayne and sharmon stock . 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One of whom, jessica reid, out on bail over the vehicle theft, responded to an invitation to visit the wisconsin detective, jim roarer. She had to know somewhere in the back of her mind that maybe they know more or want to talk to me about more than just a stolen truck. Reporter did she . In fact, as she settled in, young ms. Reid seemed to view the Police Interview as little more than a nuisance to be endured. My grandmas coming into town, and i kind of i want to do this, but i want to do it a little bit faster. This going to take forever. Reporter jessica was all of 17. Did she wonder why the wisconsin cop was joined by investigators from nebraska . I really want to know what nebraska has to do with this . Because i dont think we even entered nebraska. Reporter didnt go to nebraska, didnt know anything about a gold ring, she said. She and fester just stole a truck, she said, and fueled by massive dose of overthecounter cough syrup, went off in search of the ocean before running out of gas and money and leaving that pickup truck in louisiana. But then they showed her a picture of a marijuana pipe, which, along with the gold ring, turned up at the stock farmhouse. And jessica reids mantle began to crack. Okay. I did steal i stole a whole bunch of money from somebody. I dont know who, i dont know where. I just remember stealing a whole bunch of money. Yes, we did lose that pipe when they stole this money. Reporter reid then blurted it out. At this farmhouse, now apparently to her surprise, in nebraska, greg fester sneaked in through a window and let her in the back door. In the kitchen she said she found 500 in an envelope. Then she said, they left. And the ring . Well, now she admitted finding it in that stolen pickup, putting it on, then feeling it slide off her thumb inside that house. Where was all this going . The reason i ask you is that the two people upstairs in their bed were shot to death. And youre saying that me and greg did it . Im telling you, youre telling us youre in this house, okay . Did you not oh, my god. I never killed anybody. Okay . I really didnt. This is so seriously i didnt do it. I took money. Thats all i did. I swear to god, thats all i did was take money. I dont want to go to jail for murder because i didnt do it. Reporter then who did . Remember, matt livers had already confessed and named nick sampson as his accomplice. Tell us who you were with. I was with greg. Thats all i was with. I was with greg. Reporter but wait a minute. She must have known matt and nick. So the investigators showed her pictures. No idea who they were, she said. Never saw them before. If they did it, i swear to god, they are some dumb people. Reporter then she was told the electric share stood ready for her if she refused to cooperate, and jessica reconsidered. This guy, i dont know why, but he does look kind of familiar. Reporter thats nick sampson, who looked kind of familiar. And from there, as the hours wore on, jessicas story shape shifted as did the players time and again. Until it evolved eventually into a tale that began easter night at bulldogs bar in murdock, where nick sampson, youll recall, worked and ended at the stock farmhouse. All i remember hearing in this house was, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And so i was like, thats not good. So i cruised down because obviously that guys up there killing somebody. I dont want to stick around and have to deal with this [ bleep ]. Excuse my language. Im sorry. But i dont know what happened up there. Reporter then with that off her chest, jessica looked at the photo of nick the man she claimed was the mastermind of the murder. It sounds really dumb, but i wish he wouldnt have been a murderer. Why . Hes really hot. Why do the hot ones got to be the dumb ones . Reporter it evaporated in a jail cell. While detectives focus next on jessicas partner in crime, greg fester. Conned me into going with her. Reporter it was all jessicas idea, said fester, stealing the truck, the ridiculous trip across the country. As for the murder in the farmhouse, that was the guy they met outside bulldogs bar, he said. Who squeezed into their stolen pickup truck, led them to the stocks farmhouse, went upstairs and just started shooting. He kind of ran into the room and he i heard this scream and he shot again. We all run out of the house. Reporter but then, surprise, surprise, fester insisted the man who committed the murders was not nick sampson. Wasnt even matt livers, who had already confessed that he was the killer. No, greg fester said, it was some friend he communicated with via text message. A guy he called thomas. So a little confusing perhaps, but for the investigators from nebraska, it seemed to be starting to come together. 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And for you to love me as much as i love you. Thats the end of the quote. When you read the material that you found, what did you think . That this was so bizarre. That gives you a mindset of the type of person we were dealing with. Reporter then, roarer found a notebook. Incredibly, with more words penned by jessica reid. I killed someone. He was older. I loved it. I wish i could do it all the time. If greg doesnt watch it, im going to just leave one day and ill do it myself. Pretty scary. 17 years old. What this is telling us is that she truly was involved in pulling the trigger on at least one of the people there. Reporter time for another meeting with jessica. You got some explaining to do. And im willing to tell you right now i am at the end of my rope over this whole thing between you and young gregory. Im giving you one opportunity and one opportunity alone to come completely clean with every bit of your involvement in this. So you quit dancing around with me because i know the truth. Greg blew a guys head off. And he shot a hole through the ladys face. Reporter there, shed said it. It was greg fester who killed the stocks. But why would she then write that note . Greg killed someone. He was older. I loved it. I wish i could do it all the time. If greg doesnt watch it, im going to leave one day and go do it myself. Youre in a lot of trouble, young lady. I didnt kill this guy, though i didnt have a gun how am i supposed to kill somebody without a gun . I watched greg do it. I didnt kill anybody. Im not kidding. I did not kill anybody. I promise you guys this. You know what . 17 years old and you have just thrown the rest of your life away. Reporter she tried to explain the words, changed her story again, confessed to firing one gunshot. Then admitted Something Else quite shocking. That she had enjoyed it. Okay. Ill tell you guys like i liked the adrenaline of it. I know you did it. I didnt like what caused the adrenaline rush. But i liked the adrenaline rush. Reporter thats a real shocker for you. You dont run into that in this little town too often. Well, no. And you dont run into it with a young girl either. Reporter ballistics tests soon confirmed that the shell found in reids cigarette box matched spent shells found at the murder scene. The murder weapon, stolen from the same wisconsin farmhouse where reid and fester stole the red pickup truck. Blood found on reids clothes and festers shoes matched the victim, wayne stock. And icing on the cake. Dna found on the gold ring and the marijuana pipe matched only fester and reid. Both were charged. First degree murder. Of course, as all this was happening, back in nebraska, no one outside Law Enforcement knew a thing. The stock children were certainly in the dark, as they struggled to grip the wheel of their new strange lives. We have just lost both our mom and our dad. To lose one is horrible, but to lose both of them. And not have those parent figures that kept this family going. Where do we go . How do we help andy with the farm . How do we how do we let our children have a normal life . Reporter meanwhile, in their cells in county jail, matt livers and nick sampson knew not a wit about these developments. Then well into june, defense attorney soucie heard the words that changed everything. I got a call saying theyve arrested reid and fester. Up in wisconsin. And we got no details on it at all. Reporter but when they did, the lawyers just knew their clients were innocent. Everything clicked. You knew exactly what the case was at that point. Reporter or did they . If the attorneys for matt livers and nick sampson thought their clients were suddenly in the clear, they had some more thinking to do. Little dakotas nose was quivering in fear. Because it knew an ordinary tissue was near. The fiery tissue left her nose sore and red. 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A rain of confusion washed over the farms and furrows around murdock, nebraska. The arrests 500 miles away in wisconsin of two teenager in connection with the savage shotgun murders of prominent farm couple wayne and sharmon stock sowed seeds of doubt in the official version of events. That version had this an open and shut case against two local men. Confessed killer matt livers and the accomplice he named nick sampson. Their arrests trumpeted weeks earlier in banner headlines and news conferences. Now, these latest arrests of teens jessica reid and greg fester announced so quietly had many wondering what was the connection among these four alleged killers. I called a newspaper reporter. I says, you wont believe this, but they arrested two other people. Reporter sampsons defense attorney jerry soucie and livers attorney julie bear spread the word themselves to local reporters. He called me back about three hours later. And he says, i got the arrest warrant from wisconsin. And he said, do you want the read it . I said, oh, yeah. Reporter you got that from a newspaper reporter . I got that if a newspaper reporter. Reporter it didnt come from the prosecutors office. No, it was being sealed. I met him at a bar and for the price of a budweiser i was able to read the affidavit of the arrest warrant. Reporter those affidavits slipped to attorneys by a reporter contained details culled from the hours and hours of Police Interviews with greg fester and jessica reid. Greg blew a guys head off. Reporter and told the story of the 12 gauge shotgun. The shells, the ring, the marijuana pipe and, most tellingly, that dna. Irrefutably linking reid and fester to the crime scene. Suddenly, it was all beginning to make sense to those public defenders. Remember, theyd been skeptical when their new clients professed innocence, but ever since then, theyd been asking themselves one very simple question, where was the evidence . And in their six weeks of looking for it, they had found, well, none. After all, livers girlfriend, a woman with an impeccable reputation, insisted matt was home all night with her, 30 miles away in lincoln t night of the murders. The same with nick sampsons girlfriend who swore he never left their house that night. And she passed the polygraph. If she would have thought that nick had done this, she would have thrown him under the bus in a heartbeat. Theres just no doubt about that. Reporter then the lawyers went looking for evidence of the phone calls matt described in his confession, calls in which he and nick supposedly planned the murders and the records revealed there wasnt one call, not one between matt and nick in the days before the murder. That phone communication never took place. You know, it simply didnt occur. Reporter but couldnt they have used, you know, those kind of phones that you can buy that you cant trace . Thats theoretically possible, but theres no evidence of that. Reporter add to that a ballistics test confirmed the gun found under nicks bed was not the murder weapon. The spot on nicks jeans thought to be blood wasnt human blood at all. And now the arrests of these teenagers from wisconsin, two people clearly present at the crime scene, but never mentioned at all in any of matt livers hours and hours of Police Interviews. All this led julie bear to head over to the jail to ask matt livers facetoface about these alleged accomplices, reid and fester. Present him with, you know, this is whats being said. Do you know these people . Reporter and . Not a clue. Not seen them, never spoke to them. Reporter maybe he was lying to you. Not a chance. Reporter it would take another month for copies of those videotaped interrogations of jessica reid and greg fester to inch their way over to the Defense Attorneys. But when they finally did . More surprises. Like this comment during the interrogation of jessica reid. I know there was nobody else there. It was just me and greg. Thats what happened. I am not kidding. And if no one believes me, then i really want to go back to my cell. Reporter there were, she said, no other killers. Just her, just greg. And that whole story about meeting nick sampson at bulldogs bar . She made it up, she said, after detectives showed her a picture of the place and asked her if it looked familiar. For nick sampsons lawyer, the case was now as good as done. Is must be a good feeling. No, it wasnt. It was a good feeling to know your clients innocent. It is bad feeling to know your clients still in jail, you cant get him out. The cops are coming up with every other kind of theory they can think of to drag him in. Reporter oh, yes. There was, remember, that blood from victim wayne stock found in a car connected to nick sampson and spotted near the murder scene. So the prosecutor wasnt about to drop charges against mr. Sampson. And he, sitting in jail, had become suicidal. Nick was in really, really bad shape. And so at that point, im trying to do m. A. S. H. Psychiatric holding him together, its going to work out, its going to work out. Reporter but would it . The summer dragged by followed by a depressing september. And then first week of october, the county attorney nathan cox met the press. The murder case against nick sampson was dropped. Sort of. Since theres no statute of limitations on murder, the state reserves the right to refile the charges in the future. Reporter hardly the news the stock family expected or wanted to hear. Though they handled it with surprising grace. Its not for us to judge or, you know, to make a statement on that because we dont know. It was this and then it was that and then it was this and then it was that. Reporter but imagine being nick sampson. On that amazing day. He was cloud nine. It was incredible feeling. Reporter after five months in jail, he was free. It was incredible. Im finally out. Reporter but nick sampson, even free, was not carefree, not by any means. Some things could never be the same again. I was constantly looking over my shoulder. Seeing who was behind me. You know. Reporter so there was a real genuine itch in your back fear that somebody was going to come after you . Come after me, come after my family. You know . Revenge. Reporter because around this county in rural nebraska were a great many people perhaps a majority who were still quite certain of nicks guilt. After all, his own cousin matt admitted full out that they both killed those lovely people. I was upset, at a loss of why my own cousin could do this to me. Reporter why would he do it to you if it wasnt true . To make himself look better. Just using me as a scapegoat. Reporter nick sampson was now off the hook. But what about matt . Upgrade seasons here. 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Nick sampson struggled with the bitterness the long jailbound nightmare had planted in his soul while the children of wane and sharmon stock tried to make sense of the release of the man they had been told had killed their parents. Its a difficult situation. None of us are attorneys. None of us are in Law Enforcement. And youre just sitting there trying to take it all in, trying to figure out, okay, how does this work . Why does this happen . Reporter hadnt their cousin matt livers confessed . At least he was still in custody. As were those two teens from wisconsin. So it wasnt as if the whole case was falling apart. At least not yet. But if anyone did not feel confused in the october chill, it was Defense Attorneys bear and soucie, who were as sure as the summer day that both nick sampson and matt livers were innocent, despite what matt told police during his interrogation. It was just screaming to me false confession. There was every indication in there that there was a problem. Reporter what made it look like a false confession . As reports start coming in, we start learning that none of the details that matt provides are accurate. Reporter Something Else investigators may not have understood but perhaps should have. Matt livers, as his friends and family knew very well was slow. He had a low i. Q. , at least the sort of i. Q. People can measure. In a conversation with Authority Figures under pressure, matt livers was prone to being led. He was gullible. There was a portion of the questioning where they wont let him finish his sentence. Theyre belittling him. Theyre screaming at him. Theyre threatening him with the death penalty. Reporter and he believed them when they said those things. Yes, very much so. Reporter and one moment stood out. Defense lawyers say. When detectives should have realized just how little matt livers understood what was happening to him. Here it is. Watch what happens when they ask him to be a man and take responsibility. You consider yourself a man . Stand up. He takes them very literally and starts to rise up out of his chair. Reporter hes going to stand up. Hes going to stand up. No, be a man, okay . Reporter were those detectives even paying attention to the sort of man they were talking to . Maybe not. Just after nick sampsons release, julie bear received a dvd shed never seen before. Even though shed asked months earlier as was her right, for all the available material. This is a tape of matt livers in a second interview the day after his confession. Once hed had a chance to regain his equilibrium. The absolute truth is i was never on the scene. I dont know if nick is the actual person involved in this. Ive been just making things up to satisfy you guys. Reporter how long was that second tape withheld . And by whom . Months and months and months after because he said those things the day after his confession. Right. I dont know that nick is involved in this because we never i mean, you can check my phone records. We never talked on thursday or friday about this. And the only reason i picked him out of that crowd was i heard through the grapevine that his brothers car was used. What are you telling me this now for . What do you think will accomplish now . Nothing. Im just trying to come clean, i mean. Reporter now, that was a bombshell. Livers own attorney had never been told by authorities that hed recanted his confession. So basically from the official story, his recantation simply disappeared . Right. Reporter the Cass County Sheriffs Department declined datelines request for interviews or explanations of how this happened or, for that matter, anything else about the case, but in december, 2006, seven months after the murders, prosecution experts finally agreed, too, livers confessions were deemed unreliable. I went over to the jail and matt was in his cell and we told him, you know, its over. Youre going home. And, you know, i probably had the biggest hug from a man that ive ever had in my life. Reporter cass county prosecutor nathan cox was, once again, left to make the announcement. Its not my intention to try to convict somebody that is not guilty. Thats not why im in this business. But winning isnt the issue. The issue is whether justice is being done. Reporter with that, after more than seven months in jail, matt livers was free. Im innocent. I had absolutely nothing to do with this. Reporter and the doubters in the town all around him vanished for him in the joy of it all. I just went crazy, praise the lord, praise, thank you, thank you, praise the lord type thing. Reporter sara was there, of course, to take him home. They are now, by the way, mr. And mrs. Livers. Best day of my life. Best day, besides marrying my wife here. Sorry. Reporter what was it like watching him come out of there . It was awesome. A relief. Just great to be able to be with him again and everything. It was a wonderful day. Reporter but why in heavens name did he confess in first place . Finally now that he was free, we could ask him. A lot of the audience watching will say, come on. Nobodys going to confess to something they didnt do. Especially something so horrible as the murder of your own relative. Well, they changed their tactics on me. My rear end was going to be in the frying pan. They were going to be going for the death penalty. Reporter youre scared. Yeah. Tremendously. I thought if i tell them what they wanted to hear, that i could get to go home. Reporter how did nicks name come up . They asked me who else was involved and i started just throwing out names. Finally when i said nicks name, then thats when they seemed they were happy and believed me. Reporter but the damage is done. The whole thing has left matt and his cousin nick at a loss for words to each other. 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It did seem like they were just letting them go, but i guess nobody knew any different. Reporter in fact, some of the investigators remained convinced sampson or livers or both had to be involved somehow. They didnt buy the notion that two drugaddled teenagers just happened to stumble on the place by pure chance in the dark. And anyway, fester, remember, said the main shooter, the guy that led them to the farm was a local named thomas, with whom fester had been communicating by phone before the murder. But detectives could find no evidence whatsoever against this thomas or anyone else. And meanwhile, jessica reid kept trying to persuade investigators that nobody else was there besides her and fester, of course. I am not lying if i was lying, i would not still be going on about this. Reporter shed been saying that for months. I know what happened and no one will believe me. Reporter and though she was right about that, the detectives did not believe her. They still suspected livers and sampson of some involvement. Why . Remember way back at the beginning of our story, that speck of evidence that csi chief kofoed had found this a car connected to nick sampson and spotted near the murder scene . Heres the stain right here on the filter paper that kofoed swiped under the dashboard of the car. A second search of the car, by the way. The first by an officer under kofoed turned up nothing. This was blood from the murder victim, wayne stock. How would it get there . It was the fbi that started asking that question. Not of livers or sampson. The fbis investigation was aimed at the local investigators who handled the case. In fact, csi chief david kofoed himself. And after months of digging, the fbi concluded that kofoed must have planted that swipe of blood himself. Phony evidence to nail down a shaky case. It was a bombshell. David kofoed, Division Commander of the csi unit in douglas county, nebraska, was indied on four federal charges including falsifying records and violating livers and sampsons civil rights. Kofoed pleaded not guilty to all charges, defiantly told reporters hed rather go to prison than resign, even passed the polygraph and was cleared in an internal Sheriffs Department investigation. So you wake up one morning and they say youre a criminal. Well, it kind of was like that, but it was more of a long process. And i didnt do it. I just didnt. And it doesnt make any sense. Reporter kofoed blamed the stain on accidental contamination. Somehow, he said, blood from the victim, wayne stock, ended up on that filter paper probably out at the murder scene and somehow the kit containing that same filter paper was what he later used on the car. But kofoed did admit he broke the rules, failed to log the evidence properly, even misdated the report. I did make a mistake. I didnt follow procedures. And that bothers me. And theres no way around that. That was wrong because im a boss, because im supposed to set the example. Reporter it is a little disconcerting, though. It is disconcerting, but it is also the reason why i say this is ridiculous to accuse me of planting evidence. Why would i screw it up . Why wouldnt i log the evidence in . Why would i make mistakes that point the finger at me. Reporter if it walks like a reporter the federal jury in omaha heard the case and took just an hour to acquit kofoed of all counts. But the state of nebraska wasnt satisfied. Appointed a special prosecutor and charged kofoed with evidence tampering. And this time, after a weeklong trial before a cass county judge on what one headline called a dark day for Law Enforcement kofoed was found guilty. You understand what you were convicted of . Yes, your honor. Reporter at sentencing the career Law Enforcement man stood up and again denied planning any evidence said the truth would eventually come out. I dont believe this is the last of this case for me. Im going to continue on. Thats nothing personal with you. Reporter but the judge, acknowledging he was moved by letters written by livers and sampson asking him to throw the book at kofoed, did just that. The defendant has not acknowledged any wrong doing. Hes not appeared to be particularly remorseful. You talk about forgetting to write the report but you dont forget about logging in the evidence. He not only forgot, but he falsified a lot of stuff on the report. Thats a bad thing to say its okay to plant evidence just because the guys guilty, because how else do you know who is guilty or who is not guilty . Reporter no matter whom you believe on the blood issue, there are two people who know in living technicolor exactly what happened at the stock farmhouse that night. 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Wayne and sharmon stock aroused terrified from their sleep sanctity of their own bedroom Easter Sunday night and shot to death in cold blood. If any case warranted the ultimate punishment thought many nebraskans, then this surely was it. But to all the mystifying moves by police and prosecutors, add one more. A judge ruled that they missed the deadline to seek the death penalty. First degree murder for greg fester was off the table. Before long, a new deal was reached. Both fester and reid pleaded guilty to murder in the Second Degree. And in march 2007, not yet a year since the killing, they entered a courtroom. Reporter you went to the sentencing. I did. The first time i saw them. I didnt think i could feel so much anger and sorrow and sadness. I remember thinking i didnt think i could be this mad. Yes. Reporter in the courtroom, jessica reid and greg fester each apologized to the stock family. And then the judge handed down their sentences. For fester, two consecutive life terms plus another 10 to 20 for using a weapon. For reid, the first to the courthouse, remember, no break at all. The same sentence. Two life terms backtoback. No parole, ever. And for the stock family, ever graceful and remarkably forgiving people, afterwards . The rare flash of anger. I hope they live a miserable life because its turned our lives upside down. They made the choice to go into that house. Mom and dad didnt have a choice. My son, who will never know his grandma and grandpa, doesnt have a choice. Reporter what really happened that night . What led two wisconsin teenagers to throw away their live by so callously killing a Nebraska Farm couple everyone loved . Perhaps only two people in the world know what happened inside that farmhouse and why. And one is now speaking out. Two people are dead because of me. You know . And im i have a very hard time with that still. Reporter jessica reid is 21 now. Her demeanor, her presence, as she sits with us here, could easily be that of a kindergarten teacher. Instead, she knows she will die in prison and says she is haunted by what happened in that farmhouse. What was it like to watch those people die . Hell. Reporter and when you see it in your head . It makes my heart drop. Thats one thing in this world that i cant go back and fix. Reporter the truth about that night . Here it is, said jessica. She and fester, days without sleep or real food, have been driving aimlessly through wisconsin, iowa, nebraska, breaking into homes along the way. In one, she, too, grabbed a shotgun, so on easter night there they were both armed, drugged and wired when they drove down another back road completely at random. And greg said stop. And at what turned out to be the stock farmhouse, in they went. Greg was like, follow me real quick. So i followed him and we went upstairs and when i turned around, greg had turned on a light in the room. And i seen this guy laying in the bed. And i said, come on, lets go, lets do something. Because there was people there. Reporter what was the feeling you had as you said that . Like panic. It was like craziness like god, what if they wake up. You know . Reporter but. He just turned and went into that room. The guy had rolled out of bed and they were wrestling with the gun. And i just was like startled and my gun went off. And i have no idea where that shot went. Reporter sources close to the investigation, though, tell dateline theres reason to believe that whether jessica knows it or not, her wild shot may have been the fatal one. That it may have struck wayne stock in the head with evidence of the blast obliterated by another shot from greg festers 12 gauge. Then greg shot the guy in the back of the head. And he went back in that room and shot that lady. He ran down the stairs and i ran after him. And that ring that they found reporter yeah. It flew off and i didnt know until way, way later when they showed me a picture of it. Because i knew i lost that ring, but i had no idea where. Reporter what was it like in that truck on the way away . We didnt say anything. I mean, i started crying at one point and greg just looked at me and he was like, dont do that. You know. Reporter but what about those letters . The words found later in that house with reids belongings, with that cigarette box . Words she wrote. Boldly admitting to her crimes. I killed someone. He was older. I loved it. I wished i could do it all the time. If greg doesnt watch it, im going to just leave one day and do it myself. I dont understand it. I hate hearing it because its just kind of like how everything was portrayed. I hate hearing it. Reporter because it was how everything was portrayed . Because im not like that. Reporter were you like that at the time . No. That was my way of showing greg that i was okay with it. Because when he told me not to cry, it was like, what . Im not supposed to feel bad about this . I mean, how can you have no remorse for this at all . Reporter to them it meant reporter its all a black hole of regret now, of course. Except she says for one good thing she did. She refused to implicate two men who had nothing to do with the murders. Turned down a golden chance to cut herself a better deal with prosecutors by lying and nailing nick and matt. Do you kick yourself about that sometimes . No. Reporter why is not . Because when i wake up in the morning, i can look at myself and be okay. Theyre where they should be on the streets because they didnt do anything. And im where i should be. You know. Reporter a lot of the members of their family believe that they got away with it. What would you say to those people with their suspicions . To stop being suspicious. Reporter because . They werent there. They had nothing to do with this. Reporter but for the stock family, its just not that simple. Can you believe jessica, they ask . Theyre driven, they say, by a common sense instilled at an early age by their murdered parents. So they keep asking who and why. Who did this . Id like to know the honest truth about everything. I hope some day we can all sit down and look at each other and say, were these two involved, yes or no, definitely. Was the blood planted, yes or no, definitely. I dont know if well ever know those answers, but i hope some day well know. Reporter a postscript . Andy has taken over the farm now. Built a new house where he hopes to make some better memories. Matt livers and nick sampson are still struggling to get back their good names. The citizen who went way beyond the call to find the Critical Evidence that saved them shrugs as if it was no big deal. I heard homicide. If it were somebody in my family, i would have wanted the to assist them. Reporter and two still marvel that Poor Police Work almost did their clients in even as the very same cops brilliantly tracked the one piece of evidence that saved them and finally identified the real murderers. A simple gold ring. Had they not been able to trace that ring to its owner in wisconsin, im really afraid wed have two guys sitting on death row for something they didnt do