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Secrets . They perhaps knew each other. Have you heifer sex with her . Yeah. At the scene i can do that. The detectives have to look at every single person. Including me. I said, what about a girlfriend . He said, theres a lot going on here. He was living two different lives. We asked derrick, can you turn on the tv . Up comes the menu for a porn video. I start shaking my finger at it. Thats not mine. A chilling crime and a killer running out of time. Shes zip tied to this dresser. He tells us things that only a person that was there would know. Reporter it was coming. Hot air rising, cool air falling, swirling, spinning into a witchs brew of pure misery. She wasnt afraid of a hurricane, was she . No, maam. Reporter was she an expert on what the damage of a hurricane can do . Absolutely. Her expertise is what needed to be done in order to prevent that damage. Reporter as luck would have it, there was a monster Storm Brewing off the florida coast, not far from her home, that last week of october, 2012. In the end, it largely spared her state. But she, locked inside that house, that gated community, was still doomed. The kitchen was just torn apart. And then her bedroom torn apart. And then upstairs. We didnt know, you know, really where the struggles were happening in this house. Reporter it had come. Another storm, different in nature but not in fury. It had blown down her door and through her World Without warning or a shred of mercy. Fun loving. Independent. Lovely. Kim dorsey. Are you filming me . Yes, i am. Reporter no wonder Derrick Dorsey fell for her. And, boy, did he fall. Well, the first time i laid eyes on kim, just thought she was beautiful. Reporter did you express how you felt even in that first moment . Did it get there that night . No. I waited till the second date before i told her i loved her. Reporter second date . Thats quick. Well, when i told her i loved her, her response was, i like you a lot, too. Reporter kim wanted to take things slow, he said, for good reason. She was putting herself through school to become a civil engineer. Seven years of dating passed before he ever popped the question. Well, thats the kicker. She got angry. She got up and walked away. Reporter why . Without even saying yes. And im just like, oh, dear god. Ive made a gigantic mistake. Reporter oh, no. Ive moved too fast. And she gets over there and she goes to her purse, and she brings out this box. And its, you know, a long box. And she hands it to me. She go, i thought youd try this one of these days. Oh, dear god, what is it . Is it a big no or what on a piece of paper, whatever . Reporter on the contrary. Inside was a bracelet etched with the letters yes. Yes. They were married almost a year later. After their wedding, they honeymooned in ireland. How do you like the beer here . Beer is absolutely wonderful. Much better than america. Reporter there was kim, ever fearless, trying her hand at the ancient sport of falconry. Beautiful. Perfect. Thats it. Thats the one. Reporter at times, this independent spirit seemed surprised to find herself no longer single. Im on my honeymoon reporter not that married life changed her or either of them very much. He was a jacksonville firefighter and owner of a small general contracting business. Kim got her degree and began training building inspectors in hurricaneprone florida. Was she good at it . Absolutely. Within two weeks, they asked her the head up the department. And she would have a class up to a hundred rough and tumble men looking at this little girl in high heels telling them how to build. But she held her own, which you have to. And they respected her for that. Reporter they both were laserfocused on their careers. You decided not to have any children . At the time we were both very busy and we just we felt if we were going to do it, we wanted to have time to carve out to dedicate to them. And so we never did. Reporter but you did have your babies . Yes, we did. Reporter and how many of them . Three miniature schnauzers. Dexter, duncan and gracie. They were her children. No doubt about it. Took them to the dog park religiously every weekend. Walks every day. That was her little escape during the day when she got bogged down. Shed harness the herd and take them for a walk. Reporter kims workload seemed to grow heavier by the day. It started to get to her. It became increasingly difficult for her to be able to turn work off. It just seemed like everything revolved around work. Reporter she went to see a doctor for depression. And she decided to take in medication to help her get a little bit brighter outlook on things. Reporter did it work . Absolutely. It was like turning a light switch on. I even told the doctor hes a good personal friend of mine. I said, thank you for giving me my wife back. Reporter his relief didnt last long. The cure became worse than the ailment. Reporter was it causing her to gain weight . Is that one of the side effects . It does. Thats one of the large warning signs is on it. Weight gain, restless sleep, things like that. Reporter kim feared that stopping the medication too suddenly could make her more depressed. He said she was making plans that last week of october 2012 to see her doctor. In the meantime, it so happened that a storm, a brutal one called hurricane sandy, had been heading north off the atlantic coast. How well did she know the anatomy of a hurricane and what it was capable of . Very well. Being a civil engineer, she knows what structure can do and what they cant do. With her teaching and so forth and training of the inspectors she knew what had to be done to a house in order to protect the inhabitants. Reporter she makes everyone safe. Absolutely. Reporter eventually, the superstorm tracked east, giving most of florida a pass before barreling north and into the history books. Kim didnt seem to have either the weather or personal troubles on her mind as the weekend rolled around. There she was, friday, the 26th, captured on supermarket security video casually shopping. That night, derrick said, the two watched a movie on their Entertainment System that had just been repaired. Kim used to call it nasa. Because i would always have to change the input for her, change the channel or get it to the place that she wanted to watch. Reporter so many people can relate to that. Too many remotes. Reporter you had just had a sound person correct. Reporter come in and help you out . I was trying to have him simplify it. Take those five remotes on the table and turn it into one. Reporter the next day, saturday, the 27th, derrick left his wife sleeping and headed to his fire station to begin a 24hour shift. It coincided with a Big College Football game, florida versus georgia. How about them dogs, baby . Its a large influx of people into into the city. And of course, with the Football Game comes drinking and foolishness. Reporter what kind of calls do you get during a weekend like that . Usually car accidents, stuff like that. There are more people on the road. A lot of them are alcohol involved. Reporter as busy as he was, he called kim later that day, several times, in fact. Could you get a hold of her . No, i couldnt. Reporter was that strange, or not . Not unusual. A lot of times, usually in the morning, if she didnt want to be bothered, shed put her phone in the kitchen. Reporter on sunday, his shift over, he headed home. It was after 8 00 in the morning. As he walked into the bedroom, darkened by blackout shades, he said he expected to crawl into bed next to kim. But she wasnt there. She was on the floor. I notice kim lying at the base of the bed, facedown. Reporter what did you think when you saw her laying there . I didnt know what to think. I originally went up to her and thought maybe shed fallen or hit her head, or maybe she had a few too many beers that night. But the closer i looked at her, i realized she was bleeding. Reporter he said the firefighter in him went into action. He did cpr and called 911. Kim, you got to open your mouth. Jacksonville, 911. Who is calling . Please send an ambulance fast. Reporter soon the emergency call would go out to derricks fellow firefighters. Men in trucks, sirens blaring, would be racing to the dorseys safe, gated community, and into his home that looked like it had just been hit by a hurricane. What had happened to kim . Had derrick arrived home in time to save his wife . Are you with her right now . Yes, i am. Is she awake . No, shes not did you think there was a chance that she might still be alive . At that point i didnt know. I was going to give her every opportunity i could. Swelling and joint damage, even without methotrexate. Xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma and other cancers have happened. Dont start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. Tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. Your doctor should perform blood tests before you start and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. Tell your doctor if you were in a region where fungal infections are common and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. Needles. Fine for some. But for you, one pill a day may provide symptom relief. Ask your doctor about xeljanz xr. An unjection™. 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Its going to give their patients the protection that they need and the whiter teeth that they want. When Derrick Dorsey called the 911 dispatcher that sunday morning send rescue 50. Im an offduty fireman. Come on. Reporter he said he couldnt grasp what he was seeing. His 38yearold wife kim lying naked and bloodied on the floor. I rolled her over, and i saw she wasnt breathing. And i tried to give her cpr. Reporter did you think there was a chance that she might still be alive . At that point, i didnt know. I was going to give her every opportunity i could. Are you with her right now . Yes, i am. Is she awake . No, shes not reporter on the 911 call, you its almost like youre wearing two hats. Youre the distraught husband, and then youre the firefighter. Did you feel yourself going back and forth . Well, i wanted them to know that i was an offduty fireman for the simple fact i wanted them to understand it wasnt a layperson that didnt know what they were talking about. I knew there was something wrong. Reporter even as he begged for help, he said he kept trying to revive kim. And they wanted all this other information, and all i could focus on was giving her cpr. And then, after a couple minutes of giving her cpr, i realized that she was already stiff. And that she was gone. And i i told communications, i told them she was signal seven. Reporter what does that mean . I basically pronounced her dead. So you think shes beyond any resuscitation . Yes. Send rescue anyway. Yes. Rescues on the way, okay . Reporter youre the First Responder. You see this happen to other people. I didnt want anybody rushing to the scene to get hurt. For somebody that was already dead. Reporter youre a firefighter. Youre used to saving people. Yes. Reporter and its your own wife and you cant save her. Yes. Reporter how hard was that . After 15 years of going to gunshots, cardiac arrest and everything else, and helping everybody else on gods green earth, i cant help my own wife. Its like all that training had just been put to waste. Reporter his oncevibrant, beautiful wife lay dead on their bedroom floor, and he believed he knew why. We are sending rescue. You have to tell me exactly what she did. What happened . I dont know. She either cut herself or something. I cant see. Im trying to figure it the [ bleep ] out. I thought maybe shed tried to hurt herself. Reporter Derrick Dorsey was telling county dispatch his wife had committed suicide. He immediately thought about kims struggle with her medication and the warning that came with it. Dont bring yourself off the medication. Seek a doctors advice on coming off of it. Reporter now, as he stood over the body of his wife, he said he felt kim had ignored that warning. I had originally thought, damn it, she tried to take herself off her own medication. She had typical kim wanted to do it herself. Reporter she just quit cold turkey which she was told not to do. That was one of my worries. Yes. Reporter within minutes of calling 911, derricks colleagues came to his aid. Your fellow firefighters and paramedics. What do you say to them when they arrive . Shes dead. Reporter you had a reaction to seeing them. Your wife is laying there. What did you do when they got there . I covered her up with a comforter. Reporter was that more the husband instinct . Yeah. Husband and fireman. Its decorum. My wifes naked there on the ground, and ive got half a dozen people in the house. You just cover her up. Reporter at some point, a call went out to the Jacksonville Sheriffs Office. When Something Like this happens, theyll call me first. Reporter assistant chief t. K. Waters was the onduty officer that weekend. Ill make the decision on whether were going to go out to that call, were going to respond to that call or not. And that happened to be one that i knew we had to respond to. Reporter the officer on the other end was telling the detective about a womans apparent suicide. So naturally because its a suicide, we have to go. We have to make sure that everything lines up and looks as if someone committed suicide. Reporter the homicide detective figured the call would be a relatively quick one. He figured wrong. Coming up people who commit suicide dont usually miss. You can see the bullet holes in the wall. No way could somebody have done this to themselves. Never but thats the beauty of a store full of surprises. Never you never know what youre gonna find, but you know youre gonna love it. Marshalls. Your surprise is waiting. I thodid the ancestrydna toian. Find out im only 16 italian. So i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors was eastern european. This is my ancestor who i didnt know about. Xfinill get my coat. Ek is back. 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Just the fact that it looked out of place that it was tipped over. But i just took note of that and moved on from there. Reporter this is something, though, that would become very important later in this case . Yes, absolutely. Reporter you just didnt realize it at that moment . Thats correct. Reporter he made a mental note and met waters in the darkened bedroom. It was chaos, and you could tell that something really horrible had happened here. You walk in initially you see our victim lying at the foot of the bed. You can see, even as dark as it was in the room, the lighting wasnt very good. It was just a scene that read that something horrible had happened here. Reporter not far from where kim lay, they found a knife. They saw patches of blood soaked into the carpet and specks of red on one wall. And on another something that jumped right out at them. There had been some gunshots in a wall and you could see the bullet holes in the wall. Reporter officers later found those bullets and the gun that fired them. A pink handled revolver had been tossed on the bedroom floor. There was Something Else they noticed. There was a pool cue, a broken pool cue in the bedroom. And it was the what i call the fat end of the pool cue. Reporter as they looked closer, they could see kim was covered in bruises. It was clear she had not killed herself. The room was there was blood all over the place. I mean, the condition of her body, no way could somebody have done this to themselves. This was obviously a murder scene. Probably one of the most horrific ones that i have ever seen. Reporter just because of the amount of blood and the sheer violence that was evident in this room. Reporter they continued looking around the rest of the house. They noticed the kitchen sink filled, bizarrely they thought, with tv remote controls and a cell phone. Cabinet drawers opened. A floor used as an ashtray. All that and the toppled statue at the front door suggested a breakin. Especially when investigators learned more about the gated community. Unfortunately, at the time that kim dorsey was murdered, i believe that the community was leaving the gate open. Reporter assistant state attorney london kite was called to the murder scene that day. So it wasnt as secure as, you know, someone, like, showing a card and, yeah, come on in. It was one of those things where, at that point, it could be anybody because they could have walked through, they could have driven through. Reporter but the closer they looked at the house, they more they felt this attack had not been a random breakin. There was no signs of forced entry. So somebody either had let themselves into the house or kim had answered the door. Reporter and if someone had come to rob the dorseys before killing kim, theyd done a poor job of it. Kims yellow hummer sat in the driveway. The big screen tv was still on the wall. There were some expensive items that were in plain sight that were still there, correct . Yes. Yes. Big house, a lot of nice things. There were computers on the table. Reporter rolex watches . Yes, there was a watch case next to the bed. Nothing of value seemed to be missing, you know, that we could see right there. Reporter but it was kims body that spoke the loudest to them. It was clear shed been beaten savagely, bound at some point with zip ties and likely raped. This was such a violent attack on kim dorsey. Did that tell you anything, just the level of violence . Yes. It told us that there was possibly some sort of connection between the person that committed the act and kim. Reporter that they perhaps knew each other . Thats correct. Reporter and this was some kind of rage. Rage. Reporter crime of passion. Right. Yes. Reporter the bloody scene made them skeptical about the story kims husband had told the 911 operator. You ask yourself, how could he believe she committed suicide . How could he actually believe that . When you look at that crime scene. Reporter that was only one of so many questions they had for Derrick Dorsey, a man it seemed with plenty of stories to tell. Coming up he was living two different lives. A husband with a secret. I said, what about a girlfriend . You got a girlfriend . And he readily said theres a lot going on here. Fourth video today. Good thing i dont have to worry about overages. vo unlimited. 30 per month per line for 4 lines. Plus get the awesome iphone 7 on us. And with iphone forever exclusively from sprint, for people with hearing loss, you can upgrade to the latest iphone. Visit sprintrelay. Com. At the home depot. Friday that means more color, more power, more time outdoors, for a lot less. Come in now for spring black friday, and the best prices of the season. The home depot. More saving. More doing. Moms know their kids need love, encouragement and milk. 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I know its difficult right now, a lot going on. Reporter detective Larry Kuczkowski interviewed derrick, still in his firefighter uniform. He said the husband seemed willing to answer all his questions, starting with how hed left kim that saturday morning. Okay, so you left the house yesterday morning, probably about 7 10. Your shifted started at 8 00 a. M. Saturday . Yes. Did you go back home for any reason . Nothing like that . His alibi at that point is that hes at work. And he does work for the fire department. They work 24hour shifts, they start 8 00 in the morning, they work till the following morning at 8 00. Reporter a story that would be easy enough to check out. Next, the detective asked derrick how hed found kim when he got home from work. I go in, just go straight to the bedroom, and i opened it up. There, shes not laying down, shes on the damn the floor. Did you touch her or anything . Yeah. I touched her. I turned her over. I think she was on the right side. He was upset. You know, did he break down . Not as much as i think some people would, you know, telling the story about what they just came home to. I start looking around the house. First thing thats popping into my head is shes taken her life. Reporter he said he believed kim had committed suicide. He had already told the county dispatch he thought kim had cut herself. Now, he was telling the detectives something different. So she has a gun of her own . Yes. What kind of gun . Pink taurus,. 38. Semi automatic . A revolver. Revolver. Where is it normally kept . In her drawer that was open. To the left of the bed. Did you open that drawer . I dont think so. You dont think so. Did you look in the drawer . Absolutely. I thought she shot herself. Reporter he explained kim had been battling depression, then battling sideeffects from the medicine. He said their marriage had suffered. When is the last time that you and kim had sex . A while back. A while back . When you say a while back like weeks. Reporter Derrick Dorsey had Something Else to reveal. Were either one of you stepping out, you know, girlfriend on your behalf or boyfriend on hers . I do. Okay, you got a girlfriend. I said, what about a girlfriend . You got a girlfriend . And he readily said, theres a lot going on here. Reporter derrick had just admitted that hed been unfaithful to kim. Obviously, big, big red flags. Reporter assistant state attorney london kite was listening in on the interview from another room and hearing a possible motive for murder. He was living two different lives. We really had to figure out what was his, you know, true passion. Did he want to live there with kim or did he did he want the more seedier, dark side of his life . Reporter there was another fact she couldnt overlook. That derrick, a seasoned firefighter, had done the unthinkable at a crime scene. Now was she covered up when you got there . No, she was buck naked on the floor. I put the after rescue came, pronounced her dead, i was like, jesus, guys, guys. So i covered her. So you pulled that on top of her. Yeah. They saw me do it. Okay. Thats important to us. The thing that he did that was, kind of, uncharacteristic of someone who is a First Responder that goes to scenes like this is that he covered her body with the bedding. You know, you wouldnt want that to happen in the crime scene. Reporter to the investigators, it was possible Derrick Dorsey had tried, literally, to cover up evidence. Everything they were hearing led them to wonder, had he killed his wife . By then, the line of questioning seemed to weigh on derrick. Im not stupid. Youre asking me certain questions in certain ways. Right. And that means youre thinking certain things. Did someone harm her . Is that what its looking like . Looks like that. Did you worry that they might think it was you . I dont doubt they did think it was me. But i knew that, if they originally thought it, it would come to light that theres just obviously no way i could have done it. Reporter even as he sat in that interview room, detectives outside it were, in fact, checking out his fire station alibi. Did Derrick Dorseys alibi check out . Was he really at work . Yes, he was. He had spent the whole day at work. There were some phone calls that he had made to kim that were went unanswered, but that wasnt unusual. Reporter Surveillance Footage supported derricks account. It showed his truck leaving the gated community in the early hours of saturday morning. Even though his alibi checked out, derrick wasnt off the hook. Investigators thought he still could have had something to do with kims murder. And thats why we wanted to make sure that we looked at his phone records to see who he was contacting. Reporter as investigators tried to size up the man before them, officers back at the crime scene canvassed nearby homeowners. A neighbor had seen something. And he remembered a car, a small suv pulling up in front of the dorseys house. It wasnt really anything unusual to him. Reporter so heres what detectives had so far. A mysterious car. A husband who might or might not be involved. A victim who likely knew her killer. And a house that was ready to tell investigators a whole lot more. Coming up a rare look at a crime scene inch by inch, minute by minute through the eyes of an expert. Shes zip tied to this dresser. She opens this drawer somehow. She got the gun out and she fired off five shots. She missed. She missed. The valiant taste times of death, but once uh, excuse me, waiter. I ordered the soup. Of course, maam. My apologies. Cmon, caesar. Lets go. Caesar on a caesar salad . Surprising. Excuse me, pardon me. Whats not surprising . How much money matt saved by switching to geico. Could i get my parking validated . Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. 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Her cell phone, damaged from being thrown in the kitchen sink, had stopped receiving signals around then. So you know she was alive to a certain point at least to a certain point, yeah. Reporter her autopsy filled in more details. Kim had died of blunt trauma to the head and a single stab wound to the neck. But it was officers like detective karen smith who helped the team understand how this crime unfolded. Whats the first thing you saw when you came into the room . The first thing i saw was whats called an impact pattern right here on this wall that weve sort of recreated with stickers today. Reporter this is blood spatter . Correct. Reporter smith, a bloodstain pattern analyst and crime scene expert, followed the trail of kims blood in the bedroom, speck by speck, using string and 3d diagrams. She believed kim had just gotten out of bed when her attacker barged in. And when the autopsy was completed, we found that her nose had been damaged. So to me that meant that it was a sucker punch. Reporter so where would she have been standing exactly to create this spatter . Right about here. Reporter and then something, would have, you believe, hit her in the face. Right. Probably in the nose. Since it bleeds very heavily. Quickly, your eyes water. You cant see. Its very painful and normally when somebodys punched in the nose that hard, theyre going to go down. Reporter this first blow, she said, would have brought kim down by the side of her bed. Shes actually down here on the floor. And there was the large saturation stain here on the carpet. She was down here for quite some time. Reporter blood found on the nearby wall and marks on kims body suggested she was struck repeatedly and so forcibly that she probably blacked out. Smith believed kim was then bound at the wrists. Shes ziptied to this dresser. Reporter giving kims attacker time to step out of that first floor bedroom and into the kitchen that lay just beyond. Drawers randomly opened indicated someone had been rifling through the room. But that pause also gave kim time to regain consciousness, free herself and do something incredible. She opens this drawer somehow. She got the gun out and she aimed. Now, she probably cant see really well. Shes been punched in the face. So she fired the gun five times. It went through the doorjamb and up into the ceiling in the kitchen. Reporter so her attacker was, you believe obviously was outside the door. She either saw him or heard him, and she fired off five shots, and the gun was empty. Reporter but she missed. She missed. Reporter even then, she said, kim did not give up. So shes able to move and she leaves this area. She still has the gun in her hand and as she moves around the bed the gun is tossed and its found right underneath the bed here. Its useless to her. Its empty. Reporter blood, lit by luminol, traced kims desperate path to a window on the other side of the bedroom. We know that she is opening these curtains. There are transfer stains and saturation stains on the curtain. The pull cord for the blinds has blood on it. So shes opened the blinds and theres blood on the window so now we know shes clamoring to get out of this window. Reporter this could have been her escape. This could have been her escape route. Reporter but he came back. Unfortunately, he came back. Reporter smith said the man probably grabbed kim as she tried to escape and beat her to the floor again likely with that pool cue before stabbing her once in the neck. There was a very, very large saturation stain here on the floor, and the knife was found next to it. This is basically where she was killed. This is where ultimately she lost her fight. Reporter the scenario told investigators about kims brave but doomed struggle. But it also told them about her killer. The zip ties on kims wrists and the pool cue on the floor appeared to have come from the home. The knife matched a set from the kitchen. So he would know the house . Yes. He would know upstairs and downstairs, too. Reporter someone who might possibly know where those zip ties are . Yes. And also know the habits of kim dorsey. That shes a late sleeper. She sleeps pretty hard was my understanding, too. Reporter obviously, one man, derrick, knew all of that. But evidently, there were others who did as well. One guy that used to work with us and everything and used to work with me. Reporter derrick told them about a friend who had worked construction jobs for him and had even lived with them for a time. His name was Lance Kirkpatrick. But derrick set detectives straight. I honestly really think youre barking up the wrong tree. I had made the comment, lance would have taken a bullet for kim. So you guys are wasting your time. Fine, talk to him. Youll understand. Youll know where im coming from after you meet him. Reporter lance, he added, not only wouldnt kill kim. He couldnt. 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Other side effects include gas, stomacharea pain and swelling. Talk to your doctor about managing your symptoms proactively with linzess. Investigators were untangling the mystery surrounding kim dorseys murder. They knew her killer was familiar with her home. Her husband derrick certainly fit that bill, but he had a strong alibi and a willingness to share everything, it seemed, even his infidelity. Typically in cases like that, you know, husbands that are suspects, they try to hide all those things. They say, oh, no, our relationship was perfect. But derrick, on the other hand, started exposing, kind of, the darkness that was inside that beautiful house. Reporter was kim aware that this was going on . I dont believe so. If she was, she never let me know. Reporter did you worry how that might look to the detectives . I didnt even care. They asked me if i had any relationships on the side, and i fessed up to it right then and there. That was the least of my worries, knowing that id done that. I wanted them to find who killed her. Reporter still investigators couldnt overlook the possibility that derrick had hired someone to kill kim. Did you worry that they might think that you could have enlisted some help . No. Reporter hired someone . I knew that i could account for my whereabouts. I didnt know how they could even think i was an accomplice to Something Like that, no. Reporter he said he was an open book with investigators. In fact, when they asked if anyone else knew the layout of his home, besides his pal lance, derrick gave them another name. Joshua veal. Josh was a young man, just somebody that needed a job. Didnt have a whole bunch of construction experience and everything. But i always needed someone to help clean up and straighten up the job sites and such. Reporter so he gave joshua work in the general contracting business he ran on the side and, later, a place to say. We saw a young man that needed some direction and we tried to help him out the best we could. Reporter for a few months, joshua lived with the dorseys. But derrick said the arrangement soured when joshua took a wrong turn. Josh decided that recreational pharmaceuticals were more fun than working in the hot sun every day. Reporter that must have been heartbreaking for you because you really wanted to see this young man succeed. It was. You wanted to shake sense into him, but people have to make their own mistakes in order to learn. Reporter he told joshua to leave but said they remained friends. Reporter yet joshua couldnt let go of his vice. He was picked up for drug possession and released one day before kim was murdered. That really got the detectives attention. Did it make you question him, this guy on your radar was just in jail . Yes. Does he need money . Does he need something . Reporter and joshua had also been kicked out of the dorsey house. Yes. Reporter he could be angry by that. Of course. Reporter not the best house guest . Not the best houseguest. Reporter there was more and to detectives it was explosive. Derrick said that on that sunday morning, just before finding kims body, he stopped at a gas station to pick up joshua for a job. Only joshua never showed. At that point we set out trying to put our hands on joshua. Reporter and hes just out there. No one seems to know where he is. Thats correct. Right. Reporter is that a sign that there might be something up there . That this guy didnt show and now no one can find him . Yes, absolutely. Reporter and right around the time that kim dorsey was murdered. Right. The morning that shes found, he cant be found. Reporter but he didnt stay hidden for long. Later that same day, derrick told investigators that joshua had just called. The two men arranged to meet at a local restaurant. But detective Larry Kuczkowski decided to surprise the young man instead. We were sitting there waiting on him. And as soon as he got out of the car, introduced myself to him and said, we need to have a talk. Reporter this is joshua veal, and he remembers that moment very differently. Were you scared . Yes, maam. Six, seven undercover cars come pull up and ask about you. Tend to get a little nervous. Reporter the talk the detective wanted with joshua took place downtown at the Sheriffs Office. The officer didnt mention kims murder at first. I see you get home from 10 00, 11 00 from jail. Reporter did it feel, though, like it wasnt a friendly conversation . Yes, maam. Reporter like you were being treated kind of as a suspect type . I was already under the impression i was treated as a suspect for something. But i had no clue what for. You spent friday night at the house . Yeah. You didnt go anywhere friday night . Reporter joshua said hed spent the weekend hanging out with friends. So you go to wing it saturday to watch the Football Game or what . Yeah, i think i did. Anybody else up there that can vouch that you were up there saturday . Probably so. Now were you supposed to go to work for anybody on sunday . Reporter they asked why he hadnt shown up at the gas station to meet derrick for work that sunday morning. Surveillance showed derrick at the station but not joshua. Where was he . Yeah. I didnt make it today. I kind of slept in and didnt hear my alarm. Did he call you to like chew you out or anything . He was cussing me. He was like you little [ bleep ]. You should have come or you should have been at the kangaroo this morning at 8 00. Reporter finally, the investigators asked about kim dorsey. They wanted the 21yearold to explain his relationship with the 38yearold woman. How did she look . One to ten . Would you ask me if i would hit it . Sure. Eight. Kim ever come onto you . Nah. Come on now. A little bit maybe . No, i wish. Have you ever had sex with her . Be honest with me. Nah. I wish. What he revealed about kim was really interesting, is that he almost had an infatuation with her. Not that, you know, she was just my boss wife but someone that he almost had a romantic pull towards. Reporter how were investigators feeling now about joshua veal . Is he starting to go to the top of the list . Yeah, hes definitely going hes going up. Reporter now, the detective was ready to drop a bombshell. And eventually i brought up kim and why we were talking. Well, i got some bad news. Something happened to kim. I just talked to derrick like 45 minutes ago. What do you mean something happened to miss kim . I had asked him, do you know what happened to kim . And he didnt know. He was unaware that she was dead. Reporter how did he take the news . He took it like you had told him that his mother died. Shes dead. Oh, dont tell me that, man. Oh, not miss kim. Reporter did his emotional reaction to her death, was that enough for you for for your gut to say, mm, not sure hes our killer . It was for me at that point. I just, you know, dont eliminate him completely but set him off to the side for now. And we knew where he was. He wasnt going anywhere. Im trying to find out and need to know if you know anything or somebody that might be trying to hurt her . Hurt derrick . Bro, i promise you, you wouldnt catch me right here if i knew somebody was trying to hurt them. I promise you that, man. All right. That was a good woman. You dont know. You dont know. She was. Im sure she was. [ bleep ] damn. This aint fair theres just about anybody out there who can be our suspect. Reporter days passed without an arrest. The Jacksonville Sheriffs Office asked the public for help. Like i said, because of the lack of witnesses, the physical evidence, nothing has led us a whole lot farther today in identifying or leading us to a suspect than we had that sunday morning. Reporter but there was another piece of evidence. 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Thats what you get for bundling home and auto jamie you get sneakygood coverage. Thanks. Were gonna live forever days after finding kims body, detectives crossed one name off their suspect list. They looked into joshua veals alibi, and it checked out. Josh was just the other side of jacksonville. Nowhere near the dorsey home as far as they could tell. Kims husband likewise had a solid alibi. But detectives still werent sure what to make of him. They knew he was an unfaithful husband, which gave him a possible motive. At this point, were you able to rule out Derrick Dorsey . Absolutely not. I mean, you know, he could have definitely had someone setting this up. Reporter then again, if he had hired someone to kill kim, why was he acting so darn helpful . Derricks calling me daily, and obviously there are times i had to call him, you know, to get some information about things at the house. You know. And so, yeah, hes cooperating. Hes doing everything, you know, that im asking of him. Reporter finally, officers and technicians were done processing the crime scene and derrick could return to the house. So the night we go to turn the house back over, i think it was halloween, the 31st. Reporter they hoped the walls might talk to derrick, might reveal something officers had missed. Part of the turnover back to him was to bring him out to the house, to have him look around, walk us through the whole house, show us anything that maybe was out of place that we missed as investigators and the evidence technicians to say, thats not right. Reporter as it turned out, the house wasnt just speaking to derrick. It was practically shouting. The bloods still on the floor. The plates shattered on the ground are still there. At that point, they wanted me to try to help piece together things. And im noticing everything, everything. You know, this is wrong, this is here. I dont understand why the damn remotes are in the sink. Reporter detectives Larry Kuczkowski and t. K. Waters showed us what happened when they ushered derrick into his tv room. So were standing here and we asked derrick, can you turn on the tv . So derrick comes in here. Reporter why . Why did you ask him to turn on the tv . Well, we had never, the tv wasnt on when we got here and we had found all of the remotes on the sink so we just wanted to see how it worked. The moment i turned it on and changed the input to the dvd player, up comes the menu for a porn video. At that point, i start shaking my finger at it and going, thats not mine. Theres no way thats mine. And theres no way kim would be looking at that. And i look at the dvd player. And im going, thats your murderer. Thats going to be who was in my house. Reporter thats a creepy clue. As soon as i knew that, i knew they were going to be able to get him. They were going to be able to find out who did this to my wife. It was one of those moments where the hair would stand up on the back of your neck. Because to have that video in there and having derrick here saying, thats not mine. So, it automatically raises an antenna and gets you curious. Reporter but it was what derrick said next that really got their attention. He told them the man who installed that complicated Entertainment System, the one kim nicknamed nasa, had been there to make repairs the day before her murder. So he would have known, you know, where the kitchen was and everything else. Its an open floor plan in the center. But he would have had a familiarity with the house. Reporter derrick told the detectives that the installer, a man named j. R. , could be the person they were looking for. In my mind, that was a very strong possibility it was him. Id known him before. He worked on another house id done. I had no reason to think that. But that was the only possible logical person that i could think of had done it. Reporter so what would his motivation be . Stealing the system that he just tweaked. Have no earthly idea. Reporter was there anyone else who knew how to work the Entertainment System . No. I mean, who else would be handling the remotes when hes tuning the surround sound system, and then throw them in a sink to get the evidence off of it . So you had all those things come into play. Reporter so detectives paid a surprise visit to this j. R. , to the shop where he worked. I came back and it was a couple detectives here at the shop, wanted to ask some questions. Reporter at that point, j. R. Said he hadnt heard about kims death. And detectives were vague about why they needed to talk to him. Initially, he thought they simply wanted information about his client Derrick Dorsey. They said, do you know Derrick Dorsey . And i said, yeah, hes one of our customers. Hes like, when was the last time you were at the house . And i told him, you know, i was there friday or whatever it was. Reporter they also asked if he knew anything about kim. Even then, he said he had no idea why police were so interested in the dorseys. She was very sweet, very nice. You know, shed always, you know and ive only saw her a couple times. Reporter one of them was that friday. He had been called to the dorsey home to fine tune the Entertainment System. While he was there, he noticed a chill between the husband and wife. I remember just she walked she would walk by and say, hey, guys, im headed to the gym. And i said, okay. Well see you. And derrick didnt say anything to her. I thought that was weird. You know, i was like, you dont say bye to your wife . But i guess he was more interested in getting his electronics fixed, i guess. Reporter yeah, because something must have jumped out at you. First of all, you dont even know this couple very well. Kind of weird. They didnt have a very to me i never saw an affectionate kind of relationship between the two at all. Reporter as the detectives listened to j. R. , they took in what he did for a living. They noticed the wires and cables he worked with, the tool hess used. More importantly, they noticed his hands. Coming up hes got cuts on his hands. And Something Interesting in his tool kit. He worked with zip ties . Yes. Yes. Were thinking hes a possibility. This is mister kitty. Mom doesnt know we have him. So were using fresh step with the power of febreze to eliminate litter box odors for 10 days. Guaranteed. Victory is ours, mr. Kitty fresh step. With the power of febreze. As women, we need to take time to be active. Thats whats so amazing about poise® impressa. Its so easy and its so comfortable. It helps you stop bladder leaks, padfree. I can wear this nice dress and i dont have to wear a pad now. Try impressa® today, and start living comfortably padfree. The man who had been inside the dorseys home the day before the murder said at first he had no idea why detectives were asking him about kim, derrick and the layout of their house. I was like, yeah, i know kim just by being at the house doing their installs. Reporter the Entertainment System installer, j. R. , said he thought derrick gave his wife the cold shoulder, especially that friday as she headed off to the gym. He just sensed there wasnt a strong, you know, loving relationship. Reporter other than that, he said he didnt make much of the investigators questions. But they found a lot in his answers. They thought it possible j. R. Had sensed an opportunity with kim. Did he have the hots for her . You know, did he come show back up on saturday morning, he had been there friday night, you know, felt maybe hed go over saturday morning . You know, remember he doesnt think theyre in a loving relationship. Does he go back, thinking, hey, you know what . I have some opportunity here with her . Reporter they wonder had j. R. Come calling on kim only to get a chilly reception . Had kims rejection set him off . Detectives got to the point. They asked j. R. If hed heard about kims murder. His reaction seemed calm. Too calm, for the prosecutor. What did that tell you that he wasnt overly emotional about the news . That could be, you know, a sign that hes more involved. A person like that committed this type of crime, obviously theyre coldblooded. Reporter but it was his hands more than his demeanor that really heightened their interest. Hes got cuts on his hands. And were thinking well, could these be defensive wounds from when she was hitting him if he was the killer . Reporter they asked about those scratches. J. R. Said he got them on the job handling wires and plastics. He also worked with zip ties . Yes. Reporter what are you thinking then about the sound man . Can you cross him off your list . We think hes a possibility. Reporter more than a possibility thought the prosecutor. He had scratches. He had injuries to his hand, which, you know, from kims body, we knew that she fought for her life. She was engaged in a tremendous struggle. So he said that was just something he got, you know, during the course of his job. But obviously, as an investigator, youre seeing the other side of that. Is he just making an excuse . Reporter there are some things theyre seeing that could potentially be tying him to this crime . Absolutely. Reporter they just need to find out more . Yes. Reporter the detectives asked j. R. Where hed been the previous weekend when kim was killed. He explained hed been around town, had even been at a local ball field. Did you feel like their questions were getting a little intense . Did you feel like you were under the spotlight . I guess at the moment, i didnt because i didnt think that much about it. I was more like thinking of the situation that they just told me happened. Reporter it wasnt until the detectives left that he had that light bulb moment. They werent looking to him for information. They were looking at him. Did they were they thinking that might have been scratches on my arms from Something Like that . But that crossed my mind. That probably bothered me more than anything in the whole interview, you know, whole questioning. Reporter because kim really fought for her life. She fought hard. Wow. Reporter and whoever she was fighting with would have had scratches on them. Yeah. Reporter no doubt. Right. Reporter he also thought back to how hed answered their questions about the murder and about kim. Did you have that little moment where your hearts beating like, i was just there. Yes. Reporter i hope they dont think i had anything to do with this. They said she was murdered saturday or Something Like that. And i was like, are you kidding me . I was just there friday night. They even asked me did i have any relationships with her. No. They asked me did i kiss her. No, nothing like that. Reporter did you know that derrick had been pointing the finger at you . I had no clue. Reporter he was telling the police that he thought you could be a suspect. Thats interesting. I had no clue. Reporter if anything he saw derrick as the most likely suspect. He seemed like a very shorttempered kind of guy. Weve been in his house, see how he gets amped on certain situations. Gets excited. You could tell how he just kind of short fuse kind of thing. It crossed my mind, yeah. Because usually they do think its someone very close to them that does this stuff first. Reporter still, j. R. Said he did his best to cooperate fully with the police. Did they take your dna sample . They did. Right here at the office they did. And i volunteered, i was like, yeah, absolutely, no problem. Reporter that has to be unnerving, too, though. Yeah. Fingerprints and did a mouth swab and all that. And ive never had that in my life. Ive never been arrested in my life, you know . Reporter theres a lot of things that might make the police look at you. I could see that, yeah. Reporter thats not a great place to be in. No. Reporter but he wouldnt be there long. By then, a Police Report was making its way downtown through the Sheriffs Office. It was about to change everything. Coming up could a stolen car help solve a murder . Did you find it on the video . Yes. In the gated community the day that kim dorsey was murdered . Yes. Thats huge. What that tells us is hes in town. Jardiance. Along with diet and exercise. Jardiance lowers blood sugar and a1c in adults with type 2 diabetes. Jardiance is also the only type 2 diabetes treatment with heart proven to reduce the risk of cardiovascular death in adults with type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease. Jardiance can cause serious side effects, including dehydration. This may cause you to feel dizzy, faint, or lightheaded, or weak upon standing. Ketoacidosis is a serious side effect that may be fatal. Symptoms include nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, tiredness, and trouble breathing. 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R. s alibi for the weekend kim died checked out. Two men, josh way veal and j. R. , the installer, were now off the suspect list. Youre going from person to person to person, but no arrest. No, not yet. Reporter are you getting a little frustrated . Or are you just following the trail . Just following the trail. Because the trail it tends to tends to start narrowing after a period of time. We felt like it wasnt going to be a situation where this was going to go unsolved. There was just too much, too much information for us to follow up for that to happen. Reporter optimism alone doesnt solve crimes. Hard work, of course, does. But so, too, can luck. A stolen car doesnt usually fall into that last category, but it did for investigators in this case. Theres a lady here in jacksonville, she reports her car stolen. The report is written by a Patrol Officer with the Sheriffs Office. Eventually that report gets, you know, goes through the channels. Reporter where it might have gone largely unnoticed if not for an eagleeyed crime analyst who saw the name of the the suspected car thief listed on the report. Lance kirkpatrick was listed in that report as possibly stealing this car. Reporter an suv . Suv, yes. Reporter Lance Kirkpatrick, as in derricks good friend, employee and houseguest. The man derrick said would take a bullet for kim. Lance kirkpatrick is the one person you havent been able to talk to . Thats correct. Reporter derrick had also insisted that lance had been on a shrimp boat all week. Now a Police Report was challenging that story. What does this mean to you . What that tells us is hes in town. Hes not on a shrimp boat. Thats picking up team again. That helped us go in the direction that we needed to go in to put the pieces of this puzzle, the pieces of this case together. Reporter the woman said someone had taken her car in the Early Morning hours of october 27th. Only he never came back. Where is Lance Kirkpatrick . Does anyone know . Not at that point. Reporter any friends or family who had any idea where he was . No. We talked with his father and grandmother. They hadnt heard from him. Him and his father had a wasnt the best relationship. So it wasnt unusual that they wouldnt hear from him for a period of time. Reporter suddenly, they remembered the neighbor who saw a small suv the day kim died. His description matched that of the stolen vehicle. Detectives wondered if cameras outside the dorseys gated community caught the car coming or going. Did you find it on the video . Yes. Reporter in the gated community the day that kim dorsey was murdered . Yes. Reporter this is your huge moment in this case. Yes. Yes. Reporter but the video didnt reveal who was driving the suv. And they also werent sure if the woman who reported it stolen, a known drug user, was telling the truth. Things like that, unfortunately, arent uncommon for, you know, people that are addicted to drugs to kind of trade their car for drugs, so we werent really sure about that whole situation. Reporter even so, they needed to find lance. So i called the coast guard to see if there was anything that when the shrimp boats go out, if they file a manifest of any kind of who is on board. And they dont. Reporter its not something that you can radio each boat and say, hey, is Lance Kirkpatrick on your boat . Correct, yes. Reporter the search for lance did lead detectives to another man, an acquaintance named brian. Hed been at the same house party when the suv disappeared. There was someone else who also had access to that suv potentially. Brian kiefer . Yes. Reporter brian kiefer, aka, money. Brians nickname is money . Yes. Reporter do you know why . He said thats what, you know, the drug dealers call him. And i believe its probably because he is a boss. He owns his own company. And he runs in those same circles of people. Reporter brian ran a building renovation business, but he also had a criminal past. Troubling to you . Yes. Its always troubling when you know they have records and theyre doing things that are outside the law. So thats always a concern. Reporter did you think for a moment that possibly he might have done this . Yes. Everybody once again, everybody is still on the table. We dont know who did it. Reporter and unlike lance, who either was or wasnt on a shrimp boat, detectives learned that brian had been spotted in jacksonville recently. Now they wanted to talk to him. Coming up brian tells us some things that only the person that was there would know. And he also reveals Something Else. What a friend told him. He said the lady was saying, stop. Youre killing me. Kuczkowski. Take on the mainstream. Introducing nissans new midnight edition. I switched to sprint because all networks are great. 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Its Lance Kirkpatrick, but there is a middle name. And he goes by the nickname of l. J. . L. J. Reporter and he told them lance had been at his apartment that friday night, partying. He said lance had borrowed someones small suv to buy drugs and never came back. I spent 480 for about four hours of riding around in a cab looking for l. J. Everywhere hed been to, went, everything. And were you able to find him . Didnt find a trace of him. Reporter it wasnt until a day later, sunday, that lance called him, begging to meet at a gas station. Brian said he immediately noticed lances hands. You noticed i guess that his hand was hurt at that point in time. Do you recall what hand . If you dont, its okay. I thought it was a left, but i know he hits with his right. So i just if you cant recall, thats fine. I cant recall. That would be the better statement. But you did remember that he had an injury to one of his hands . Yes. Reporter brian said he was unprepared for what lance was about to tell him. He tells me that he murdered somebody and just pretty much is going to prison, and theres nothing that can be done about it. And im saying, i said, what do you mean you murdered somebody and your life is over and youre going to prison . And he was like, im going to prison. Reporter he thought lance was making up stories. But a few days later, lance revealed details of his crime. He said he had let himself into his boss home, only to be confronted by the mans wife. When she picked up her phone to call for help, he panicked. He said i took her cell phone and i told her to get out of my way, that i just wanted my stuff. Reporter from there, brian said the argument quickly turned violent. Pretty much just goes into i dont know whether he hit her with that pool stick, but he kind of emphasized swinging the pool stick. Okay. And then he emphasized being shot at five times. Reporter the story was so awful, so incredible, brian said he didnt think it was true. Yet, investigators did. They believed brian had just described the murder of kim dorsey. And i told my brother, you know, like and hes like, do you really believe that [ bleep ] . And i was just like, not really. You know. But i didnt you know, i didnt know. Reporter brians not sure if he should believe lance. Are you believing brian . Brian tells us some things that only the person that was there would know. Reporter but couldnt that make him a suspect . Yes. It could. Reporter were you looking at him as a possible suspect . At that point he was, yes. Yes. Reporter what were the details he knew about . He knew about the electronics in the sink. Thats not anything that we ever released. Thats not something we would ever tell anyone. He also knew about the pool cue, and he knew that it was a very expensive pool cue, that it was over 1,000, which that was accurate. Reporter and he gave detectives a chilling detail. Kims last words. What does he say . Does he say that she was dead or does he say anything about that . He said the lady was saying, stop. Youre killing me. Reporter investigators were now determined to find lance. Brian knew exactly where he was. Our friends from the Marshals Office went and paid that apartment a visit and lance was found hiding in the apartment. Reporter the longmissing Lance Kirkpatrick, once thought to be at sea, had now washed up in a Police Interview room. Lance, have a seat over there, okay . The beginning of the interview was i mean, it was just a conversation. He was fairly forthcoming with his answers. Well, id like to talk to you, okay, about some stuff, all right . Reporter the detective asked lance about the dorseys. He was careful not to mention kims murder. You and derrick get along pretty well . Oh, we get along great. How about you and kim . We get along fine. Have you ever had any problems with her. Uhuh. No, nothing like that . All right. No, i pretty much get along with everybody. Reporter lance said hed been to see his pal derrick at his fire station. Went out to the station 45 and got a hundred bucks from him to go down south. Reporter he said he was only gone for a day or so. He later tried to pay derrick another visit at his home. I went over there a week ago, maybe a week and a half ago looking for him. You remember what day it was that you went over there and did that . Yeah, it was georgia florida. Georgia florida. It was georgia florida. Right before the game. Reporter the very day kim died. Lance was now putting himself at the crime scene. He told the detective he knocked on the dorsey door, but no one answered. Did you go inside . Let yourself in . No, no, no, no, no, the key wasnt there. Wheres the key supposed to be . Its supposed to be up under the dog right there. Wheres the dog where . Theres a little dog about like a fake dog by the door. Reporter spare key . Little dog . Lance had just admitted he knew how to let himself into the dorsey home. Suddenly, the upended statue the detective noticed the morning they found kims body made sense. What if i told you i didnt believe all your story . What part of the story dont you believe . Reporter Larry Kuczkowski was convinced lance had, in fact, found that key and sneaked into kims house. The detective was certainly not about to let this sleeping dog lie. Betrayed by a friend. The only thing i could do was howl. Xarelto®. To help keep me protected. Xarelto® is a latestgeneration blood thinner. Thats proven to treat and reduce the risk of dvt and pe blood clots from happening again. In clinical studies, almost 98 of patients on xarelto® did not experience another dvt or pe. Heres how xarelto works. Xarelto® works differently. Warfarin interferes with at least six bloodclotting factors. Xarelto® is selective. 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They examined his electronic and him to his wifes we were looking to gain. Her death. Didnt. It actually put him in reporter Derrick Dorsey was no the Jacksonville Sheriffs Office called to give him the detectives said, mr. We made an arrest last it . And i said, what did reporter it didnt had, in fact, been he had an for some traffic violations and so i figured finally theyre questioning him. Reporter but it wasnt to be. He told me they had arrested him for the the only thing i could damn wounded animal in it was the betrayal. Reporter this is you believed would take a bullet. Reporter he would take a bullet for your how could somebody do that to begin with . Someone who didnt that to someone who way to try to help him . The charges of battery and murder. It would take more Lance Kirkpatrick to stand trial. Lay ahead. Theres no witnesses. What happened to kim reporter still, she believed the Lance Kirkpatricks guilt. Case, explaining how inside the dorsey home any way he could that we know how his day reporter the video of lance pulling into the dorseys community in that suv. And a half ago looking replayed lances where he put himself did you go inside . No, no, no, no, no, the key wasnt even reporter she said the evidence would show that lance had lied to police then about what really the dorsey home, intending to rob them. That kim was asleep you know, noise, and expecting anyone and that she wasnt reporter so when saturday morning to standing in her home, the prosecutor called stand. To get up on the truth, everybodys you snitch. You that. Dont know the whole story. Reporter he explained how lance had confessed how lance admitted violently, when she call for help. And he said that he grabbed a a pool stick pool stick. Reporter leaving her unconscious on the described stepping out and she got a gun and started shooting at him. Knew it was a he didnt say he was nothing like that. But he was you could tell he was angry. And then i just said that she said, stop, stabbed that bitch in the neck. Reporter and if you didnt believe science. An analyst testified body on the pool cue on the trash he left did you find any dna yes. Belonged to Lance Kirkpatrick. More evidence against him that he was there. Reporter Derrick Dorsey also took the he said lance and kim but in the months their houseguest. Kim had a house rule . Reporter was lance not 100 , no. The daylights out of her. Get to the point where he had to leave over really because of the after they kicked lance out, kim wanted with him. Prosecutor said the the house because he him in. When she confronted as he listened, kims husband realized how badly he had misjudged the details . 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Dorseys because of the saturday. To get my georgia over there before, left over there. Reporter kim answered the door and let him in, he said. Pool upstairs then he felt sorry for her. Friends. Reporter she was depression . Yes. She was. She was selfconscious that . Oh, yeah. Entertainment system. He said kim wasnt in him. Before long, they were having sex in the afterwards, he she was depressed, she was insecure. That, you know, i antagonized her a bit after you know, we kitchen. Who first became she was standing in and you can see at the kitchen right there. You know, pow, pow, i hit the floor. I dont know where shes at. Supposed to do . At in the kitchen, theres only two ways theres a back door i go either way, i shes got a clear shot at me. The trajectory of the the floor next to the nightstand beside the you. Yes. Why dont you just run out of the house . The gun was unloaded. Why didnt you run out . She i didnt know where she was at. To pick up the pool cue and charge toward her. I dont know how i dont know how hard i was swinging. Pumping to hard i bench pressed a car. My aim was not to hurt kim. She was down and out, he said, he still felt till the police got there. On, i was like, oh, scissors. Off. So i did away with that whole idea. Stepped away and came back to the bedroom. Kim had somehow freed holding the knife. You know, its hard to youre not thinking, reporter this went very wrong. Said, they fought. Before he knew it, the and so was kim. I remember getting up, i remember looking at the knife and or something, and i went to check to see where she was reporter at first, he said he waited for police, but when when the Police Brought you in, why didnt you tell them the i didnt say it out loud even to happened. Dorsey . Reporter did you murder kim dorsey . When i took her life, it was the state on cross. She dared to confront him. You were pounding on that i wasnt aware of how hard or i was just swinging. You did kill kim dorsey, yes, i did. In the neck, she would never i didnt know she was dead law enforcement, prosecutor, people have heard the story who say happened that day are just totally theyre farfetched. Scene and just thought of the worst possible thing that could have happened and went reporter some people think that you turned into an animal yes, that can be said. All. Killed kim to protect himself. There was no premeditated no burglary. The defense noted the medical kim and lance had sex, not that kim had been raped. The sex was consensual. Evidence and speculation. So unless theres somebody else testifying, yes, i was physically assaulted, no, i did speculate that it was sexual battery. Reporter the defense closed by saying the state had failed to prove its case. It argued Lance Kirkpatrick should only be convicted of the lesser charge of manslaughter. Those who worked to build the if youre defending yourself, do you need to tie her up with do you need to rape her . Do the things you did to her in defense of her life . Complete madeup story. The jury, Derrick Dorsey sat in he killed her, raped her, sodomized her. This wasnt just some loss of to do Something Like this, theres something deep down evil reporter the jurors agreed. They found Lance Kirkpatrick degree. Now they faced another agonizing something to deserve that. He is appealing his conviction. Friend got off way too easy. If you could say anything to the decision that kims life had at what point did you decide to kill her . Said its taken time to move on with his life. Hes retired from the fire we have Derrick Dorseys last reporter hes also remarried and works with his new wife in a service. Reporter thats not to say hes forgotten kim, their life together or the mistakes made. Part. Rude thing i could do to her. And im going to live with that didnt deserve, brought into their world. Still, he clings to the good what memories does she leave behind for you . They were her children. 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