Shes not interested in being married. All the things you imagine when you read a great piece of victorian literature is a girl looking for a husband and thats where the story with our story, we start with the character who turns down a proposal of marriage from an eligible man and that her journey, thats not what shes looking for in her life in the beginning, and i was so joined to that and the idea of working with her. Rose Carey Mulligan when we continue. And by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Rose the great jim parsons is here. He is a fourtime Emmy Awardwinning actor. He is star of cbss hit comedy the Big Bang Theory, the highest rated comedy on television and one to have moths successful series in syndication. He now returns to broadway and stars in a new play as none other than the almighty himself. It is called an act of god. I am pleased to have jim parsons at this table for the first time. Welcome. Thank you good to be here. Rose so when you have this huge hit, did you long to go to broadway or did this happen some other way, somebody else longed hoffyou on broadway . I longed to go to broadway and do theater in general. I always longed to do theater. There are many other things i enjoy doing and i find are wise to do and feel good to do, other mediums, whether it be a movie or maybe another tv show but in the back of my i have a dormant, anytime theres a space that nothing else is happening in theater to fit in. Rose some people go back and forth and say its necessary because it resets them. It does. Theres a very going home aspect to it, if thats what you started doing, which i started doing. Theres a very going home aspect to it and there really is no other medium. Even though we tape the tv show live, still you can have several takes to do things, and there is a separation between you and the audience with the camera. Theyre there but theres four cameras between you. This is the only medium where the audience plays such a critical role, more than i think that they understand about theater. I think rose how do they do that . Just by being there. If they sit in stoney silence theyre making a huge impact on you. This play, especially, im talking to them the whole time. But in any play, and i think thats why you always hear about the death of theater. For all my life i have been saying theater is dying, theater is dying. I dont believe that will ever happen because nothing else replicates a live sporting event, i guess is the only other thing im thinking of where the Live Audience has such an impact. Rose clearly in sporting events. Clearly in sporting events burks live theater whether drama, comedy, doesnt matter. Rose and sometimes i think live political conventions and things like that. Absolutely. Rose if the enthusiasm is so great it can rev up the speaker. It changes what youre hearing. It puts a tone to it, this is very successful or not. Rose youre playing god here. Gods playing me is really the premise. He has some things he wanted to tell the people. He wants you puts it i have a winning likable personality and feels his profound message will be easier to take given my off beat charm. One thing i definitely am is a brand. Okay. I am an established wellrespected brand, okay . And when i see some backup wide receiver from dip bleep university on sport center point to me after scoring a touchdown that cheapens the brand this is very simple im not with you when your team wins. Im not against you when your team loses. Im not with or against you when you win or lose. I am not a laker or a cowboy or a red wing or and please listen carefully to this i am not a yankee, okay . I dont guide the ball between the uprights or into the basket or out of the stadium or into your opponents crotch. You won the game, congratulations. Youre a super bowl m. V. P. , mosul tomozltoff. Whether youre an athlete or not is meaningless to me. I do not influence the outcome of sporting events to affect the winner. I only on extremely rare occasions influence the outcome of sporting events to affect the spread. laughter rose how did you come to this . My agent. He said while i didnt know it i spoke to this writer david javerbaum, and said i have a client always itching to do theater and might be a good match for the material, what he was on board with it. They had the conversation without my knowing it and he sent me the play. He said, what do you think . There is a lot of things up in the air and hes always trying to keep our hands in several pots to make sure something happens, bless him. And i loved it. Ill tell you something weird, though, is what i loved about it is i had never done a show where i was on stage the whole time. I had never done a show where i talked to the audience the whole time. And and i thought it was very funny and wellwritten. But these were the qualities i liked much more than considering the god aspect. It was really after committing rose youre on every moment. Every moment. Now, im sitting which is really nice. I sit on a couch for 90 minutes. Rose david javerbaum, as you said said the grand idea wasnt to undercut religion. What was it to do . Oh, god, i dont know what his ultimate goal is. I tell you what i feel, and its that for tall the fun hes for all the fun hes having at religions expense, at gods expense, and then fun with religion, with god and our beliefs and the things we to in the name we do in the name of religion, with all that fun hes having, there is something so thoughtful about what hes done. I dont know davids i dont even know what religion david is. I dont know his feelings about religion, he could be an atheist, but he has given this topic such serious thought and for as much fun as he has, i dont feel he plays fast and loose with it. He has his own version of the serious discussion about it about the commandments, about what is this kind of being that created this. Rose is it satire . I guess to a degree. Well, let me ask you if this is satirical, im sacksly not sure. Its gods come down and is having this as human type discussion as hes capable of. Hes trying to relate to the people and only mildly successful because hes god. So i dont know if thats satire or not, but it is an interesting concede, you know, what if god were one of us. In this case, if he wanted to come own do and host his own charlie rose segment ill ask myself questions. That kind of thing. I understand celebrities. Thats why i said i had some ambivalence. You see celebrities are my chosen people. laughter i know the jews are also my chosen people, there is a lot of overlap. laughter celebrities are like me they are adored, worshiped, tantrumprone, we live in our own universe, our public appearances are limited and for promotional purposes only. laughter i get celebrities i mean, not when they die, but before. laughter i get why they take my name in vain. I get they wye they take all kinds of things in their veins. laughter and since im omnipresent im always with them. Hmm . Yeah, i have been there with them through the good times and the bad, the laughter and the tears, the joy and the pain. In fact, i have seen celebrities at their lowest moments doing and thinking things no one else knows about. Not that i would violate their privacy by telling you about them because i dont engage in godsip. Rose how different is it for you . The primary different is youre on the whole time. Theres no time to rethink. Theres no rebooting. Were in the middle of previews as you and i talk, and i have found so far that its a big joy to be out there the whole time, but i feel a different recall brace of energy happening recallhappening recalibration happening of me throughout the show. Theres no going back and getting your tires changed like in nascar. You do it yourself and on the fly. I sit the whole time, so physically its not demanding at all. But i feel a certain sense of scintillation and exhaustion when i get off. Rose is sheldon a nerd . Yeah, hes a genius. Rose what would you say. Pompous but well meaning persnickety, particular, he has his own ways of doing things and most other ways are wrong. But hes not entirely without reason because he is a genius and has a scientific mind and when push comes to shove he typically will bend to the fact if thats what it takes. And the relationship of riders on big bang have made him between the character of amy is so organic to the quirkiness of those two that it comes off to me very, very honest and its an example of hes willing to admit to himself that she is important to him and so, hes willing to concede certain things to her that he would never concede to anyone else. I dont know. Rose how would you change him . How would i or did i . Rose how will you. How will i change him. I wont, consciously whatever they write, ill do. I have a very i was going to say odd approach its my approach to any role, but him i have been with for eight years now and its always remained the same. I always feel like what im doing is what theyve written and im not naive enough to believe that i have no particular way in which im bending it because its me whos doing it but i really try to take all my cues from what theyve written and i try and let him be what he says he is. Rose did you feel how good it was at the beginning or did it become for you yes and no. I didnt feel it wasnt good. I felt that it was good. I did feel the oddities of doing a tv show immediately. We went and did the presentations and stuff where you talk to the press and you could tell, not everybody thought it sounded like a good idea. But what i knew you know, we were taping by then, already, even though it hadnt aired yet and i knew we were doing good work. I just didnt know if anybody would care. Rose did the language have a certain rhythm to it . Always from the pilot, from the audition. I drilled the hell out of that audition for that very reason because i just you could see what they had done. It was so for a halfhour sitcom, it was so dense and so many words strung together and i was just like, you know whats not funny . Struggling with this. The only chance for this to be funny is rose to have fun with it . Yeah, it just falls out of your mouth. Let the acting happen almost separate from it. The words are the words. To a degree it stayed that we. We have more characters on now the two women weve added and its made sometimes less dialogue to memorize, which is nice. But it still rears its ugly head. Rose whats your price for memorizing dialogue . I do note cards as if im some sort of School Student memorizing a public table. I write the last bit of a cue on the front and my whole line on the bag and just drill just drill, just drill. And it is for me a very muscular rehearsal process in that way. Just right here. But again, my goal its harder with tv when you only have five days, but in general my goal is to have it where as if youve learned to dance and the feet know what to do. You can smile and whatever. And in this case, its the mouth. Thats the goal. Rose is it easier to do now with all the experience youve had as an actor or is it the same process . I think its the same. Im on the treadmill, as it were. Like when i memorize this play, i was doing it while i was working on big bang and promoting the movie and all this stuff and in that way its easier to fall into it and do it but doesnt make it faster. Rose whats it about the Big Bang Theory . The Big Bang Theory. Well, in its simplest form, it was originally about four really smart guys who are not so good in the real world who meet this one girl who is good in the real world but perhaps not as bright to put it mildly no. laughter but in the process its revealed its truer heart which i think is the tale of outsiders and who find each other. Rose yeah. And who make a family. And i think a lot of good tv, especially a lot of good comedies, are very much that, an odd group of maybe outliers who come together and make a family. I mean, i was just back there with something about seinfeld. It never fails seinfeld comes up in every conversation, it seems. What are they . Theyre kind of oddballs, right . Rose yeah. But theyre family. And this, while obviously very different, is the same in that same way, you know. Rose roll tape. This is sheldon talking to amy who eats played by my i am bialik. Sheldon, this is silly. Im not missing another prom. Im going upstairs now. Goodbye. I really did think you looked pretty. You did . Es. So much so that i started to panic. Well, you can relax. Just because you think i look pretty, it doesnt mean we have to spend the night together. Were you hoping we would because its prom . Im always hoping. But tonight i just wanted to have a nice time with you. Maybe dance with someone who has arms. laughter thank you for understanding. Of course, i understand. Sheldon. There is Something Else i have been wanting to say, but before i do, i just i want you to know that you dont have to say it back. I know youre not ready and i dont want you to say it just because social conventions dictate i love you, too. audience reacts applause you said it. Theres no denying i have feelings for you that cant be explained in any other way. I briefly considered that i had a brain parasite. laughter but that seems even more farfetched. laughter the only conclusion is love. I know whats happening this is a panic attack my mom says to lie down with your feet elevated. Okay. Whoa, whoa whoa just because i love you doesnt mean girls are allowed in my room laughter rose good scene. Yes, and oddly a very easy screen which i give all credit to the writers. It was unlikely eight years ago i thought those characters would tell another human being they loved them much less in a romantic way. The writers kept everybody so true to the original characters they were and grown very smallly, inc. Mentally from there, so everything is a pleasure to do. Rose why was he fearful of commitment . I dont know i mean weve never gotten into any too many past issues that would say well, his father rose i know that, but i know, but i think it has to do as much with the fact that he wants to be solely glorified himself as a scientist. He doesnt want to team with other people and share the glory, and i think that bleeds over to all other aspects. Hes singularly focused on what hes doing and i think a lot of it is not wanting to share credit. Rose heres another scene with the two of you. Leonard is as much a part of this paper as you are and he was overlooked. Hes going to feel bad. But it wasnt my fault. I didnt exclude him and i didnt write the article. Remember that time you didnt get picked to pull the sword out at disneyland and they let the other kid do it . Oh, that kid poor leonard. Exactly. For the record, that kid was a terrible choice. If you cry when you drop your cherub, you dont have what it takes to rule england laughter rose was the laughter all studio audience lafayetteer . Yeah, weve had laughter theyve had to cut down and whatever. So who knows. Rose but you feed on that in the studio . Oh, my god. With everything. And most importantly, the writers feed on it. If somethings not working, they work on it right then and there. It really is the greatest gift we have. You know were not taping in a vacuum where its, like, well we know its good and funny rose how many times do you shoot the episode. We shoot the episode once and chronologically. Some hot scenes may only go twice. Sometimes we have been stuck for an hour in one little scene like that. Rose how will it work. Something works all week, and then you get there and theres a disconnect and the audience doesnt like what the characters choices are, who knows what the reasoning is. I dont think they are the writers are never sellouts, well whatever pleases the audience but it is keeping it in line with the show and the greatest reminder we have of home base is that audience every week. Theyre the ones who at many levels, know what were doing more than we do, you know. Were the forest for the trees you know. They have the view and go rose they have the rhythm, too. Theyre so tuned into it. Completely. Rose so tell me where you think you are now. Youre on broadway, you have the hottest sitcom youve come off of that. What is it you want to do, other than what youre doing . No, i know. When we were in school, i went to grad school, undergrad. It was always the more specific you can be the better off you are, as far as acting, or anything, probably. And i believe that to be true. Rose what does that mean, the more specific . Like the example i had was like, if uh you could aim at Something Like i want to be the neighbor to jack and whoever on this sitcom or whatever, you know, you may not hit that, but you have a real road to go down. Rose absolutely. I always had a little bit of trouble with it. I dont know if im having more or less trouble with it right now. My biggest thing always is to keep working, to keep working. And in that regard i just try and keep my ears open and my heart open to things that i read and go this feels like the next right thing. I mean look, any business, as you know but its definitely a tricky business as far as trying to dictate anything, you know. I mean, the success of our tv show is a good example of that. Theres no way to dictate that you know. Rose or tomb duplicate it. No, because you do what you feel is right or funny and true and authentic, and hopefully someone will want to watch. The same goes for every audition and everything you want to do, whether acting or producing or whatever. You can only go for whatever you want when you see it and youre like, yep and hopefully they will have you, whoever they is in that case. Rose great to have you. Wonderful to be here. Thank you very much. Rose he and i were sitting in a restaurant and i saw him over there and i thought, my god, i said, thats jim parsons and amanda said, really, it is so we made a date. Made a date. Rose thank you for coming. Thank you very, very much. Rose back in a moment. Stay with us. Rose Carey Mulligan is here. She is currently on broadway in david hares skylight. Her costar said shes dead on, immaculate and impeccable. It led to a tony nomination with six others for the play. She also stars as bathsheba in the film far from the madding crowd. Heres the trailer. Hes asked you everything oh, my god from now on you have a mistress and a master. It is my intention to astonish you all. laughter ms. Everdene is here now you dont think i would. No, you wouldnt hey, hey ow much in. 5 pounds a quarter. Very well. Miss everdene, would you marry me . I dont want a husband. If i had a husband i would want them to pay me and you would never be able to do it. Ms. Everdene, your neighbor. I want very much to have you as my wife. I dont think ive ever seen a face as beautiful as yours. You should have nothing to do with her. Dont listen to him. Dont believe it. Why . It is difficult for a woman to define her feelings in a language cheefl made by men to express theirs. Im so foolish to think i might stand a chance. One day i will leave here. You can be sure of that. Ms. Everdene will never marry you. Rose i am pleased to have Carey Mulligan back at this table. Welcome. Thank you. Rose so much to talk about. That film but also look at this, everywhere i look, there you are vogue magazine, ravishing Carey Mulligan is the seasons most romantic movie and then the wall street journal. But mostly on broadway skylight. David hare said about you if i was starting a National Theater with an acting company like olivier had id start around her. That would be a nice adventure, wouldnt it . That would be such a good adventure. Id do it with david if he asked. Rose what is it about david that would want would make you want to do it with him . Hes just an extraordinary writer and just a wonderful person. Weve had the privilege of getting to spend a lot of time with him on the plane. He was down during rehearsals and previews. Hes brilliant. Hes very much the writer on the project. Were working with stephen, too. Hes just so gifted. Rose what i love about him is the curiosity he has for the things that he wants the to do whether politics in the middle east or whether its malefemale relationships or all of that. Yes. Rose curiosity seems very contemporary to me. Yeah, and hes an observer. I think thats why he and stephen Work Together so well. Theyre both curious and observing over time, even trivial conversation theyre like that. Rose until he got stephen to do this one . Yeah, and hasnt been done well since bill did it, i dont think. Rose when was that . 15 years ago. London with michael and william in london, then 15 years later we did nit london. Rose is this an instant yes when they called you . Yes. The script is just so i wanted to do a play. I did a play a couple of years ago which was a bergman movie with david and very dark and difficult. And i was just looking for the next play and i always wanted to work with stephen dougherty. I never read skylight, i started reading it and i read ten pages and i thought i hope it doesnt get bad it got better and better and by the end i was completely in heaven. Rose it was a character you loved. You have to like her. Completely. Rose yeah. Its truly great writing and not the kind of writing you can do for 12 weeks in london and 12 weeks on broadway and never tire of it because there is so much to it. Rose is it different in london versus new york . It is. Its a british play with a lot of different british references and the audience react differently. Rose tell me about it . Tom and kyra worked together. After a couple of years he came back based on the relationship which lasted for six years which his wife didnt know about. And after about six years his wife discovered and she left. So youre meeting them now three years after that happened. Kyra left . And the wife and he stayed together and she died. Rose and he ends up at your doorstep. Yes, on a cold night. Rose the kind of drafty apartment. Yes. Hes sort of living a mo monastic lifestyle. Rose is she on the rebound or just found something she can engage . I think she found what she wants to do with her life. I think initially it was probably a reaction to the lifestyle she had with him which was very affluent and privileged and in the chelsea world in london and she went the other direction. Actually in that, i think she found what she really wanted to do with her life. Rose then he shows up . Then he shows up and questions every single time laboriously. Rose and what are the possibilities for her when he shows up . I think initially theres a possibility of them being together. Rose back. Yeah. Rose he spends the night. Yeah, he spends the night. And theres a possibility of a reunion. But i think hes always held at arms length through the play. Then as the play develops you see ultimately what it is that keeps them and will keep them apart. Rose the interesting thing to me i love him as he knows and you know and everybody who watches this show knows. I think hes a wonderful actor and so beguiling, his personality, the reticence of it all for me. Yeah, totally. Rose and when he comes in the room, shes in this flat. Hes dancing all the time. Hes constantly in motion. Hell take a chair move it out and move it back. Its like choreography. It is. Rose did he or stephen create that . It was kind of a collaboration between the two of them. Stephens a very straightforward director. He doesnt mess around. We were running the play by the second afternoon. Rose you were running the play for two days. Yeah, first when we read it in the afternoon we saw it and the second day we did a runthrough. We had a huge script. Bill obviously knew all of it. Rose well, hed done it before laughter so, yeah, we just started doing it. Its a combination of bill and who he is. Hes fascinating to watch all the time anyway. Rose whats fascinating about him . Hes like no one i ever met before. Hes sort of me mecurial. Theres a point in the play where he hops and leaps up that he didnt do in london. It was brilliant. I didnt know any of my lines because i came straight off the job and had to learn to cook the meals. I would look up and see bill doing this incredible dance but it was between the two of them they came up with that. Rose hes a very interesting actor. Tell me your sense of him. I mean hes a man who never wanted to do shakespeare. No. He doesnt believe the airy fairy school of acting the wishywashy. When he met stephen on skylight, he said to stephen i hope were not going to be figuring out what our animals are. He didnt want to do anything fluffy and lie around and talk about our feelings. Rose why did she not want to reignite the relationship . Because she ultimately because ultimately i think he broke her trust and broke it in such a significant way that she had her heart completely broken and she would never be able to trust him again and she fundamentally knows thats true. Rose she found out the fact that when he broke her trust the last time he still had that in him. That he was still capable of that and there was no significant change in him. Whats great about the play, you see so much of the history and nostalgia and they still have it, but he hasnt really changed and to a degree she hasnt either and she cant compromise, so theres a mix between lovely memories and being in the exact same place as they used to be sphoo do i remember, he left the show for downstairs, that was the first sign. He came to the apartment but didnt tell the chauffeur to go. Yeah, he leaves frank downstairs. Thats the first argument they have that he left the driver outside. How dare he leave the driver outside, knowing rose kind of like a visit. Yeah. Thats one of many that sort of escalated. Rose you have a wonderful speech about equality. Yeah, its a great piece of writing. Rose but seemed to me like youre so into that. Yeah. I do love that. Rose what do you call that . Just a speech . Yeah, you know, its one of those it reminds me a lot of my friend mabel who shes a she campaigns for the labor party in london and i can always picture her having this moment and having this speech and yeah, its a great piece of writing and its the first time that you really see and take him on in a real way in the play. Rose the act of doing theater in new york, you are in west end or wherever, is that something you have to do . You have to keep that sort of as close to you and not do all these movies without revisiting the theater . Its more just where the roles are and this is where this great opportunity came up. I mean, i do miss this in the way i dont films. I dont watch a film and wish i was in it. But if i go to the theater and see a great play i get that feeling id like to get back on stage. So i have had that a little bit. But its mainly the part thats so brilliant and less interesting film roles around. Rose is it the text that makes it interesting . Yeah, the text and the people. The play is brilliant tbowrks get to do it with bill is just, you know, i couldnt imagine it. Ive always wanted to work with him. Ive always wanted to work with him on stage and to get to do this play with him where its Matthew Beard is with us at the end of the play. He plays his son. But its me and bill for the majority of the play. Rose as combatants. Exactly, and its so exciting. No more exciting to be on stage for anything than that. Rose you also said if you look at a role if you cant bear so see somebody else in that role you have to have it . Yeah, thats been my little policy for the last couple of years. When i did an education and then i worked for never let me go which i loved the book. And my agent who looked after me since i was 18 she said youre in a privileged position and this may not last forever, its a transient business, but whilst it does, you should take the role if you cant bear anyone else do it. Rose what about the the character in far from the madding crowd . That was the feeling i had from that. Rose shes independent spirited. Its a complete anomaly in a victorian novel. Shes unlike any other character that you rose because of her strength . Because of her strength because of the fact shes completely bucking social convention. Shes a mistress of her own property, shes not interested in being married all the things that you imagine when you read a great piece of victorian literature is a girl looking for a husband and with our story we start with a character who turns down a proposal of marriage from an eligible man and that her journey, thats not what shes looking for in her life in the beginning. I was so drawn to that and so drawn to working with thomas vinterberg. Rose you also choose roles because to have the director. Yes. I read it for this film and then i read the script, but i dont know if i would have done it without working with thomas because i was not that interested in doing costume dramas, felt a little nervous about them, because english people think thats just what we do so i had been staying away from that kind of victorian drama for a while but the opportunity to work with thomas was just too great sphoo what did you learn from him . A real freedom in that genre you know. That he didnt have any sort of real rules. That he was sort of a you know, that in his sort of his desire to make the story feel relevant, there were no kind of but upped up rules of how people behaved at that time or how people spoke and that doesnt lead to a lot of anachronisms, it just leads to people feeling like people rather than people in a costume drama. Oh. Bathsheba everdene, ive brought you a lamb. Oh. How cute hes come too soon last winter so i thought you would like to rear it instead. Thank you. Thats very kind. The lamb is not why i came. Go on. Well, miss everdene, i wanted to ask, would you like to marry me . Ive never asked anyone before. No, i should hope not. Well. Perhaps i um i should i should leave. There are some things to consider. Is someone waiting for you . No, but that doesnt mean ill marry you. Good day to you, then. Rose you said its shocking how real bathsheba is. What is it about her realness thats so is it this strength, is it the toughness the independence the intelligence . I think she feels real to she feels real to me and to a modernday audience. I think at the time the book and the characters are widely criticized because that was so against the grain and how women werent meant to behave or feel, and so every critic that wrote the book said the only real character was the sheep but if you real it now its amazing and there are whole passages where he dives into her mind and its authentic. Rose how do you translate that to the screen diving into her mind . Its difficult. Its a twohour adaptation of an epic novel and thats a great challenge of thing lke that. We started with a good script with david nichols. We felt very strongly about the book. I was a real stickler for the book and id bring it on set with me every day and we would argue. If it was up to me, i would have had the entire book word by word on the screen and you cant do that for an adaptation. Rose you can do that on television. Exactly. But, you know, you just dry and infuse it with as much if you love the book and youre really wanting to be faithful to the book, you hope that gets on the screen. Rose whats her relationship with each of the suiters. They represent part of her life. Michael is the social norm. Thats what people expect from her if she was going to do the right thing, the smart choice, he would marry him. But oak is love and integrity and honestly. And Sergeant Troy is a dastardly soldier. Rose is that the one she automatically likes because hes a bad boy . Shes an unconventional girl and he speaks in an unconventional way. When she meets gabriel oak hes incredibly inarticulate and bumbling and his proposal is a disaster and thats not very appealing and she wants somebody who will grab her. And he doesnt. And troy says all the things you dont say to women and she finds that dazzling. Rose like . Like youre the most beautiful woman ive ever seen and meet me in the forest. Rose before you found mr. Perfect, you didnt have men say to you, oh, youre the most beautiful woman ive ever seen . Yeah, and i fell for it thats why its so real laughter she makes all the ridiculous mistakes you make. Rose she falls for it. Yeah. Rose this is part of what hes trying to do is convince her to marry him as well. Im offering you shelter. , a safe harbor as my wife. You must at least admire my persistence. I do. And like me . Yes. And respect me . Yes. Very much. Which is it like or respect . It is difficult for a woman to define her feels in a language chiefly made by men to express theirs. Rose and then comes Sergeant Troy. He says those things but doesnt mean them. Rose hes a bad boy. Hes a bad boy, left his poor pregnant almost wife somewhere else. Rose shes attracted to him. Yeah. Rose shes strong, though yeah, its a great line where it says if she fell in love with troy the only way a selfreliant woman can do when she loses her selfreliance. Rose thats a good line. She falls for him as only a selfreliant woman can do when she lose hers selfreliance. Yes. Rose shes lost. She can no longer rely on herself, shes gone. Yeah. Rose hook, line and sinker. Until she wakes up and realizes whats happened and shes gone to a point where, in those times theres nothing to do with you to get married. Rose youve talked with your agent and she said you have to live this because its not going to be there forever. Yeah. Rose is it because to be there where you are is only for young women . I think there is definitely a period of your career and age rose 20 to 40 . Yeah, i think so. Rose not 25 to 35. I think, maybe yeah, sort of mid 20s. It depends. Some actresses who play much older and much younger. Rose like merle and people like that. Yeah, but there is also a lack of great roles. So, you know in whatever age youre in, thats what its going to be. Theres not going to be a lot of brilliant parts around. But, yeah, i suppose thats deafnlt restriction in a way. Rose is there a common denominator to the women youve played . I mean, i have been looking to play real people. Rose real, authentic. Yeah, feel like regardless of the size of the role, they feel like they have their own story, theyre not just an accessory to somebody elses story and are threedimensional, believable women whether good people or bad people but real. Rose i want to take a look at the last scene since we talked about Sergeant Troy, take a look at this. This is again talking to him. So we saw all here. Roll tape. What angers you exactly . What i said or the way i said it . You must know. There must be some man who tells you that youre beautiful. Not to my face, no. But there is someone who kisses you. Ive never been kissed. Do you forgive me . I do not. Why . Because the things you say. I said that you are beautiful. Do you fight as well as you speak . Better. Rose how lucky were you to play nina in segal . Very lucky. Sort of spiled in a way spoiled in a way because it was a great stage role for a young actor. Rose it has everything. It has everything. I felt so much affinity with her and also to be able to play in that cast and with that director. Rose who else . Christopher. We played in london. And going in and out with peter. Rose you were 21. 21 in london and 22 in new york. Rose whats great about the role . Its just so i mean the whole script is the most beautiful script but just an incredible study of a young mind and of a young actress and it just perfectly captures that kind of burning desire that you have when youre young. Rose to be as good as you can be, do you simply have to live and experience or do you do Something Else that makes you a better actor . I think living and being in the world and not getting rose theres no skill you neat to get other than living. No. You dont just live in a bubble. You engage in the world i think if you go from job to job to job and all you know is a film fir and inside of a dressing room, maybe you can suffer a bit but sent just living. Rose what are your passions outside of this . Mainly being at home with my family, but i work with two brilliant charities in the u. K. For children in conflict. In london i went to the democratic republics congo with them and its the first time i have been able to do something with my job to talk about useful things. Rose did you see the film that won the Academy Award . Yes, i did. Brilliant. Yeah. And, so, yeah, i mean, its that other part of life thats important to keep involved with because its so easy to get stuck in the bub of the world that were in and i think that makes you suffer. Rose youre in sufferragette. Yes. Rose whos in that. Meryl streep. Rose and your character. Set in 1912 in london and about the womens Rights Movement in london. Its a story fictional rose of women in power. Yeah, and around the militant sufferragettes. These were the ones who were chaining themselves to buildings and blowing up churches and emily who threw herself in front of horses. I think i had a very kind of school girl idea of what a suffragette was. She walked through the streets and were on Hunger Strike and Police Brutality and imprisoned for years and the real struggle they went through. Rose you mentioned a bit about the time you were cooking in skylight. Heres a scene with you and bill cooking chili. Here it is. Theres no problem. Its all in the hand. laughter what . No, really, what are you thinking . Are you putting the chili in front of us laughter usually, i try the chili so that it infuses the oil. laughter ahha. I see. I dont do that. Im doing it the way i prefer. Ehhh. laughter the noise he makes brings the house down. Rose i know it does. This is when shes explaining her choice of apartment. I have to tell you, this place is really quite reasonable. Oh, really. As it happens, i get it at a very cheap rent. I should hope so youve lost all sense of reality. This place isnt special its not specially horrible. This is how everyone lives. Oh, please this is interesting. It wasnt until i left your restaurant, the ricottastuffed restaurant of yours, it wasnt until i deserted that chelsea i seem to remember you liked it pretty well. I do like it. Thats not something i denied but when i got out of your limousine and left that warm buckle of money where you exist and most people live in a very different way. Of course. And you have no right to look down on that. Of course. Thank you. In one thing youre different from ive with one else in this part of town. How is that . Youre the only person whos fought so hard to get into it while ive everyone else is fighting to get out laughter its so funny watching it in front of an audience. When were on stage were meant to be in a shared moment but when you watch it from out there rose when you go back tonight, watch it. Other than suffragettes, thats done. Yeah, its out in october. Rose whats next . I dont know. I have skylight until the end of june and ill see what comes up. Rose what is this . Thats a se sea gull and thats from the sufferrettes that says love overcometh. When emily davis died they printed the suffragette and there was a cartoon that said love overcometh. Rose thank you for joining us. See you next time. For more about this show and other episodes, visit us online at pbs. Org and charlierose. Com. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. 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