Live on the World Cafe that is Jesse Wilson that O'Bagy it's from her debut album Face Thanks for listening to the World Cafe I see that small already isn't it weird to hear that. Page as it's nice to meet is great. Congrats Congrats on the debut album thank you so much so people might know your work from a band that you were in previously as muddy Magnolias Yes they were getting a lot of press and and you had a very well written review debut album and then out of nowhere the band sort of breaks up well I wouldn't say it was out of nowhere you know like maybe 2 people who were following us but for me I kind of saw it coming I do a partner at the time Cali north she I grew up in the music industry in so I am I've been accustomed to like the ebb and flow and sort of like the hardships of like making music your life in being a touring musician and I think for her it was like very overwhelming she loves music and loves the art of of songwriting and even performing but I think the lifestyle became a lot for her especially as a married woman whose husband wasn't as mobile because he was a farmer and he had to be with his crop you know what I mean and well that took a toll on her after a while so what's going through your head as you know that you're you've been the life or in the music industry you kind of know what what the balls are going to be what things you need to look out for what's going through your mind where you get the sense this might be ending pretty soon honestly it was just like Ok what's next Ok I didn't even skip a beat I knew that I've always known that you know this is my path for my life like I know what my purposes and so. I already had it in my head by this time that I wanted to work with Patrick Carney we're talking to Jesse Wilson here the album is face produced by Patrick Carney why Patrick Carney Why did you want to work with him specifically you got so many. Producers in Nashville including guys like they've. Got all these people out there what was up with Patrick Carney because his music had the bass the bass it had the bass it had the drums it had growing up in New York you know listening to hip hop listen instead biggie listen and saying listen into Lauryn Hill Mary j. Blige but still loving rock n roll music I really became infatuated with the Black Keys and. It was not just because it was rock music it was music that was informed by all of the other stuff that I really love you know when I would listen to dance vocals I could hear Smokey Robinson in there when I would listen to Patrick's drumming I could hear like that would say just like girth in like just swag and I think that they're the for me and my ears in my case they were the only rock band that struck me that had like that swag that street swag so tell me what happens when you go to Patrick Carney and you get the meeting with him and. For him. Just jump on board Oh sure yeah Oh absolutely not I think time at that time I had different songs I think the only song from this album that I played him the day that we met in the office at red light in Nashville was cool one and it was just like a voice memo. The other songs that I played were songs that I had written as muddy Magnolias you know and so it was a different mindset a different sonic a different just everything even lyrical approach in so you know it wasn't something that he was really feeling but in our meeting we had this spark of a connection we have similar music tastes but you had to convince him. A little so he told me to make him a playlist Ok after that meeting and I did and I asked that this playlist I was like I was like I'm. Going to be the cool cannot curse government I'm not going to curse I said I'm going to be the coolest chick on the planet I'm going to pick all of the good stuff I've put some good good good stuff or are there and I sent him the playlist and he was like cool and so he eventually agreed to do one song with me and the band that I was working with which 2 of the guys is still with me now and he just wanted to go in cold into the studio and I was like no. I don't think I should do that I need to know what's going to happen we need to have a chemistry I don't want to just jump in like that because I knew that we were supposed to work together and so eventually here agree for me to come out to his studio and I had been working with the band at bomb shelter is the name of the studio as I took him all of the board mixes and I'm playing songs in our press play on one song and we get 10 seconds and he's like cut it off seconds off 15 seconds and cut it off and he's like it's just not cool. What. I'm from Brooklyn I was unfazed Yeah I wrote he said I really said you so I said an identity crisis I would not be going to let me be felt that the music itself was disconnected from the person that I am that lyrically as Sonically it just wasn't matching you were talking to Jessie Wilson here on World Cafe her debut album his face what ultimately do you think made it click for you working with him. I like I said I already knew so I was waiting for it to click for him right so after that period. We're like in this all happened in a matter of hours where in the studio he's saying all this stuff he's like I don't like and I was like well what do you like. I said I'm let's do something right now let's create something right now let's do a song and he's like Ok really I'm like yeah so he goes down in the studio into the live room he lays down drums comes back lays down bass I'm startin the you know sketch out some melodies words are coming we step back after the song has like shape to it and we smoke a cigarette and he looks at me and he says You see I think that you are more of a metropolitan artist I see you in London I see you in Paris I see you all over Europe and if you want to do your whole album. That's amazing you just took that one song No I just took the chemistry to it took for him to discover the chemistry I think that you know and I think that he saw something in me was you know we talked about it over the course of months like that. I had place is just one of those God things you know like I was. I had been writing for a lot of. Female artists in the r. And b. Space and next time in 2013 I was picking up steam but it was like I was writing all of these songs that were very. You know common in r. And b. Music contemporary r. And b. Music is like the same story line I really appreciated. Nashville because of the. Though why like just expensive songwriting I remember driving to Nashville for the 1st time in hearing a song called there is a God and I was like oh my God you know you can write whatever you want to write about here and that's not the case in pop music in urban music you know that there's there's a formula who talking just Wilson here on World Cafe debut album is phase. You know you wrote you wrote a really interesting I think it was in an article for a French magazine I think has an interesting observation about audiences in the scene in Nashville and playing with your former band you noticed something about your crowds in that they were pretty white yeah and southern just I'm curious what it's been like in the last year with your own solo project you're out working playing with the black keys to arenas and stuff like that what have you observed what does it have had things changed have you noticed some any difference in though I would say that like especially on this Black East tour that I'm Our right now it's isolated from you know black listeners. I don't know if that's because of lack of you know I don't think it's because people don't like it I think that people are not being exposed to artists like Gary Clark Jr myself Leon bridges Brittany Howard because when I introduce people to these artists they freak out you know I mean I'm pretty Howard probably made I mean. In my estimation the best album of the year like her solo record is amazing is utterly ridiculous she's one of my biggest inspirations being a black woman in rock music like I really credit her for just sort of inspiring me and giving me permission like that seed in my heart permission to do what I do you know when you're a black woman singing this type of music people want to box you when like they will not say that it's rock music it's always r. And b. It's always just because you know and I think that. Having people like Britney sort of helped break those those walls down is just so important talking just you also hear face is the debut album one more to play for us are going to play clap your hands can you tell us a little bit about it oh man I love this song so much this is like I love performing all of the songs but this is the one that really really when we're live and we have the audience and we can really sound off in like just crank it up this is the one that really pulls people and like I get such as while out and let it loose like a little banshee up there something like that I just I love this song when you play for us yes Ah so it's just Wilson on World Cafe. a moment on World Cafe support for j p r comes from our listeners and from the bell Union in Jacksonville the bell Union is known throughout the Rogue Valley for its diverse menu featuring local ingredients fresh seafood creative pasta dishes and pizzas served indoors or on the patio home to live music every Thursday Friday and Saturday the bell also features a full bar with an extensive wine list and craft beers on tap more at Value dot com Heard. 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