3. Com. Is. Coming up. Lots of people go into the same business their parents did maybe take over the store and here at the company maybe or from a long line of school teachers Jacob Dylan son of Bob Dylan the same thing here working for the family business Jacob Dillon is the lead singer of the wallflowers and here they are with us on role the Catholic. Live. This is an encore edition of The World Cafe I'm Marina tourists Jesse Wilson's new album was produced by Patrick Carney of the Black Keys a little did he know that was Jesse's plan all along but it took some convincing when Wilson's former band of the Amerikana duo muddy Magnolias broke up she reached out to Carnie to find a more rock'n'roll vibe for her next record the result is her debut solo album phase she talked with world cafe's Calero about working with the Black Keys drummer her extensive musical background and why she wouldn't want to make music anywhere but in Nashville 1st a performance of Oh baby it's Jesse Wilson on the World Cafe. The Live on the World Cafe that is Jesse Wilson that's O'Bagy it's from her debut album Face Thanks for listening to the World Cafe I see that smile already isn't it weird . It's nice to meet so great. Congrats. On the debut album thank you so much so people might know your work from a band that you were in previously Yes muddy Magnolias Yes they were getting a lot of press and you had a very well written review debut album yet and then out of nowhere the band sort of breaks up oh well I wouldn't say it was out of nowhere you know like maybe 2 people who were following us but for me I kind of saw it coming my dual partner at the time Cali north she I grew up in the music industry in so I am I've been accustomed to like the ebb and flow and sort of like the hardships of like making music your life in being a touring musician and I think for her it was like very overwhelming she loves music and loves the art of of songwriting and even performing but I think the lifestyle became a lot for her especially as a married woman whose husband wasn't as mobile because he was a farmer and he had to be with his crop you know what I mean is that it took a toll on her after a while so what's going through your head as you know that your You've been a life or in the music industry you kind of know what what the polls are going to be what things you need to look out for what's going through your mind where you get the sense this might be ending pretty soon honestly it was just like Ok what's next Ok I didn't even skip a beat I knew that I've always known that you know this is my past from my life like I know what my purpose isn't so. I already had it in my head by this time that I wanted to work with Patrick Carney we're talking to Jesse Wilson here the album is face produced by Patrick Carney why Carney Why did you want to work with him specifically you got so many great producers in Nashville including guys like Dave . To get all these people out there what was up with that recording because his music had the bass the bass it had the bass it had the drums it had growing up in New York you know listening to hip hop. Up listening to Biggie listen and not as rude saying listen into Lauryn Hill Mary j. Blige but still loving rock n roll music I really became infatuated with the Black Keys and. It was not just because it was rock music it was music that was informed by all of the other stuff that I really love you know when I would listen to Dan's vocals I could hear Smokey Robinson in there when I would listen to Patrick's drumming Akhet here like that would saying just like girth in like just swag and I think that they're the for me and my ears in my case they were the only rock band that struck me that had like that swag that street swag so tell me what happens when you go to Patrick Carney and you get the meeting with him and they use it for him. Just jump on board Oh sure yeah Oh absolutely not as it's time at that time I had different songs I think the only song from this album that I played him the day that we met in the office at red light in Nashville was cool one and it was just like a voice memo. The other songs that I played were songs that I had written as muddy Magnolias you know and so it was a different mindset a different sonic a different just everything even lyrical approach and so you know it wasn't something that he was really feeling but in our meeting we had this spark of a connection we have similar music tastes but you had to convince him. A little so he told me to make him a playlist Ok after that meeting and I didn't ask that this playlist I was like I was like I'm going to be the cool cannot curse because I'm a I'm not going to curse I said I'm going to be the coolest chick on the planet I'm going to pick all of the good stuff that's what some good good good stuff or are there and I sense in the playlist and he. As I cool in so he eventually agreed to do one song with me and the band that I was working with which 2 of the guys is still with me now and he just wanted to go in cold into the studio and I was like no. I don't think I should do that I need to know what's going to happen we need to have a chemistry I don't want to just jump in like that because I knew that we were supposed to work together and so eventually he agree for me to come out to his studio and I had been working with the band at bomb shelter is the name of the studio as I took him all of the board mixes and I'm playing songs in our press play on one song and we get 10 seconds then he's like cut it off 2nd song 15 seconds and cut it off he's like it's just not cool. What. I'm from Brooklyn I was unfazed Yeah I wrote he said I really said you so I said it I got it he crisis I want you got me I want to look at me the film that the music itself was disconnected from the person that I am that lyrically and sonically it just wasn't matching we're talking to Jessie Wilson here on World Cafe her debut album his face what ultimately do you think made it click for you working with him. I like I said I already knew so I was waiting for it to click for him right so after that period we. Were like this all happened in a matter of hours where in the studio he's saying all this stuff he's like I don't like and I was like well what do you like. I said let's do something right now let's create something right now let's do a song and he's like Ok really I'm like yeah so he goes down in the studio and so the live room he lays down drums comes back lays down bass I'm startin the you know sketch out some melodies words are coming we step back after the song has like shape to it and we smoke a cigarette and he looks at me and he says you see. I think that you are more of a metropolitan artist I see you in London I see you in Paris I see you all over Europe and if you want to do your whole album. It's amazing you just took that one song No I just took the chemistry to it took for him to discover the chemistry I think that you know and I think that he saw something in me was you know we talked about it over the course of months like that. I had never had the opportunity with the amount of like talent that I have to have someone come alongside me like a producer to help me get my vision out to help me sort of refine my sound you know he just wanted to be a part of that that's awesome Jesse Wilson as our guest on World Cafe her debut record his face would you play waiting on for us oh yes. a want to get. Kids . To live this way. It's a long. Long haul. All Dog members are told. That's waiting on from Jessie Wilson on World Cafe for her debut album is face Thanks for listening to the World Cafe I'm Calero your band is smoking 1st off they're just incredible Can you can you introduce them to absolutely. Between us on the drums we have on guitar also Kevin Nolan on the tie in Zachariah which are on bass Gentlemen thank you guys for being here is phenomenal so you live in Nashville originally from Brooklyn why what brought you to Nashville in the 1st place is just one of those gut things you know like I was. I had been writing for a lot of. Female artists in r. And b. Space and next time in 2013 I was picking up steam but it was like I was writing all of these songs that were very. You know coming in r. And b. Music contemporary r. And b. Music is like the same story line I really appreciated Nashville because of the. Though why like his expansive song writing I remember driving to Nashville for the 1st time in hearing a song called there is a God and I was like oh my God you know you can write whatever you want to write about here that's not the case and in pop music in urban music you know that there's there's a formula cool talking just Wilson here on World Cafe debut album is phase. You know you wrote you wrote a really interesting I think was in an article for a French magazine I think has an interesting observation about audiences in the scene in Nashville and playing with your former band you noticed something about your crowds in that they were pretty white yeah and southern just I'm curious what it's been like in the last year with your own solo project you're out working playing with the black keys to arenas and stuff like that what have you observed what does it have had things changed have you noticed something any different yes and no I would say that like especially on this Black Keys tour that I'm Our right now which is like a dream come true to just be like on the same bill like wow but. You know alternative rock. Audiences are majority white even on tour with someone like Gary Clark Jr even though he's a black male you know blues rock soul funk artist his audiences are at least 90 percent white yeah I do think that is really interesting that you know you have this American music that's steep. Very much so in the black experience and somehow in 20192020 it's isolated from you know black listeners. I don't know if that's because of lack of you know I don't think it's because people don't like it I think that people are not being exposed to artists like Gary Clark Jr myself Leon bridges Brittany Howard because when I introduce people to these artists they freak out you know I mean I'm pretty Howard probably made I mean. In my estimation the best album of the year like her solo record is amazing is utterly ridiculous she's one of my biggest inspirations being a black woman in rock music like I really credit her for just sort of inspiring me and giving me permission like that seed in my heart permission to do what I do you know when you're a black woman singing this type of music people want to box you when like they will not say that it's rap music it's always r. And b. It's always just because you know and I think that. Having people like Britney sort of helped break those those walls down is just so important talking just to also hear face is the debut album one more to play for us are going to play clap your hands can you tell us a little bit about it I'm in I love this song so much this is like I love performing all. The songs but this is the one that really really when we're live and we have the audience and we can really sound off in like just crank it up this is the one that really pulls people in like I get to just while out and let it loose like a little banshee up there something like that I just I love this song would you play for us yes awesome it's just Wilson on World Cafe. a moment on World Cafe. A . a. Welcome back to the World Cafe big thank you to Jessie Wilson who stopped by to chat with about her new album. By name is. Playing a song now that could be about a long list of people Sheryl Crow wrote. Which she won't say mistake before that hey I'm arena tour is 25 years ago last month Tom Petty released his album he called his personal favorite wildflowers it was the album that gave us the big hit you don't know how it feels but it also gave us a gentler warmer Tom paid him a degree with me the opening track the title track one of his most beautiful celebrating at a quarter century of wildflowers and World Cafe. Mc Nashville McKayla and with by our design you also heard wildflowers title track from the Tom Petty album that turned 25 years old last month going back even further a brand new song inspired by a 137 year old painting that's next cafe. Hello I'm rated You're listening to World Cafe that you're about to be transported to Paris a bustling cab raid called the air Montreal artist little scream wrote this next song inspired by a famous painting by the French modernist Magnay the paintings called barmaid at the fully Visionaire It's a picture of a woman tending bar gazing across that bar you with her reflection in the background listen for the references as little scream brings that famous painting to life this is still life on hold cafe. dot com You're listening to k s u t Public Radio key issue teeth gnashing. Nasho Katie and she Durango k u g Farmington k u s w for Vista and k.p. Just goes to Springs thanks for joining us this evening I'm Rob Rawls we've got one more hour of the World Cafe coming your way takes us up to midnight in the b.b.c. World Service. Ok I'm rated her.
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