means committee wants to target willy-nilly, and you know david, for all of this time that he has fought, this he could've voluntarily given tax information, he fought it in the courts, and he's finally lost and it's come out, i think the question is, is his motivation that he's up to no good, there's fraud and sketchiness, or is what his tax records show is that he's not a very successful businessman. and to go back to what suzanne craig said in the previous hour, are you coming up with creative ways to put, pluses or are you actually losing money? it does seem like it's a lot of the latter. >> yes, donald has a habit of shaving money off of loans, taking money out of his businesses that are losing money. and then using the business laws offsets, the way the tax code is right, until wipe out a tax bill. certainly showing that he's never been a billionaire, he's just claimed, that is an important factor, but there are also 26 sole proprietor filings,