here? >> well, unfortunately someone did harm to themselves that is of great magnitude. imagine someone setting themselves on fire. what is of importance here, there was a lot of law enforcement and emergency personnel within the area in and around the courthouse. so your response time was certainly very quick. that particular time of day in new york city in manhattan. so you're going to hear over the next h couple of hours that pern will be identified. there probably will be a press conference to inform the public and the rest of the country what happened and occurred here just moments ago, ago but to be able somewhat be those reporters, your reporters being there on the scene and actually witnessing that horrific event is certainly, i think, very --

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