courthouse. he's maybe dozing off, maybe not, he looks tired, he's bored, he's complaining it's cold. >> he's fallen asleep twice. >> and the reality is this is not a good look for a presidential candidate. there's a reason people don't go through criminal trials. there's a reason they avoid can scandals. voters don't like it. i think we as pundits have cooked ourselves into such a frenzy that the reality is this is a bad look. >> independents pay a lot of attention to the news. they make up their mind at the end. they are very sensitive to things that consume an entire news cycle for an extended period of time. those things still hold true. >> yes, and they disrupt the practical working of our government. how much more could we be getting done on ukraine and israel and the border and any other number of things if the whole country wasn't swamped up in this. there's a practical need to have
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