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Campaign war chest of more than 42 million at the end of the month. Which clinton is unloading in a blitz of more than 23 million in battleground state tv ads airing across the country right now. Trump, meanwhile, has spent zero, zero dollars on battleground ads. The Campaign Says that it doesnt need to spend big sums of money to get its message to the public. They say theyll catch up in the money race that theyve only started fundraising in earnest. This afternoon the Clinton Campaign kept the heat on trump speaking in battleground ohio, clinton portraying trump as a business fraud who would plunge the economy into recession as the president. Just like he shouldnt have his finger on the button, he shouldnt have his hands on our economy. The Economist Intelligence unit comes out with a new list of threats every month. It includes things like terrorism and the disintegration of europe. And this month, number three on the list is donald trump becoming president of the united states. Clinton went after trumps business record, his past rhetoric on working women, his temperament and his aggressive policies on immigration, taxes, debt, you name it. This is his one move. He makes overthetop promises that if people stick with him, trust him, listen to him, put their faith in him, hell deliver for them. Hell make them wildly successful. And then everything falls apart and people get hurt. Those promises youre hearing from him at his campaign rallies, they are the same promises he made to his customers at Trump University. Trump quickly responded with a flurry of activity on social media, he blamed the stagnant economy on clinton in this instagram video. He went after clintons judgment on twitter with references to benghazi victim ambassador chris stevens. He attacked clinton on immigration saying her open borders policy will drive down wages. He brought up the email controversy painting her as inept and not able to run the economy. He threw in jabs at clintons Foreign Policy as well including references to the growth of isis under president obama. But these attacks were tame compared to what weve seen from trump from the past. In addition, we also saw something notable today. It was unprecedented for trump. A traditional Rapid Response operation. His campaign blasting out a series of press releases heavy on policy and numbers. This was a significant change in tone and tenner for the campaign coming as trump prepares to deliver his rebuttal to clintons address tomorrow in new york city. Im joined by nbcs caskasie hu in columbus, ohio, the buckeye state. Nbcs katy tur is with the Trump Campaign at his headquarters in new york city. Kasie, well start with you. The economy obviously a thorny issue for clinton. Folks trust trump more than they trust clinton on this topic. So why did she choose this issue at this moment when Trumps Campaign was facing a lot of its own problems . Reporter well, remember, peter, this is a speech that was delayed in part because of the tragedy in orlando. So this was actually something that they had initially planned to be part of a swing through ohio and pennsylvania focused on those Economic Issues in the rust belt. But, of course, that got put off so rescheduled for this week and they, of course, did come back here to ohio to this Vocational Training center here to give this speech. Trying to send a message on this issue, you know, of course, donald trump has really struck a chord especially among a lot of these blue collar voters and there are some concerns that he could potentially reach out to some voters whove been disengrdis e disengaged particularly white men who live in places like ohio and pennsylvania, so i think that was pretty deliberate on her part and i also think that initially this was coming on the heels of that, what many people believed was a successful National Security Foreign Policy speech. That shed given in san diego. And Hillary Clinton really found a groove in attacking donald trump on that front. And thats what you saw today. You saw more of her essentially trying to use Donald Trumps own words against him. There was one moment where she said, she described her aides giving her the research for this speech and reading through his quotes and saying, really, he actually said that . So you can hear the conviction in her voice there. But i have to tell you, peter, this ground is a little bit less comfortable, it seems, for Hillary Clinton, on the economy than that Foreign Policy ground was. And to a certain extent, thats just because of the reality of the situation. While many of those numbers, the economy has improved, its added jobs, the Unemployment Rate has gone down, for a lot of people theyre still not feeling it and she has to defend an obama record on the economy that a lot of people just dont believe or arent feeling in their own lives is successful. Thats inherently difficult to do. She may have to defend her own record broadly, not just the clinton family, the Clinton Foundation has come under attack from donald trump. How are they preparing for the speech that hes going to be giving tomorrow morning . Reporter well, for the most part, peter, i think you can expect them to respond to any personal attacks, for example, in the way that they have all the way along. Which is to just ignore them and essentially try to rise above the fray. Now, there are some thorny issues around the Clinton Foundation and other areas where its not quite personal the way some attacks on, say, bill clintons personal life that donald trump has leveled might be personal, so i think at this point, you know, they need to make sure that they are prepared to deal with those things and i think you can see the Clinton Campaign coming out with many of the defenses theyve offered in the past pointing to, say, the food wo good works the foundation has done among other things. I also think Hillary Clinton has planned for tomorrow a followup to her speech here today thats going to focus more on her record and her plan for the economy. While we heard her go after trump here today, shes going to outline more specifics tomorrow. So i think youre going to see them try to put the focus on that. Todays speech really punctuating what has been a terrific stretch for the Clinton Campaign. Their best stretch over the course of this campaign. Donald trump on the other hand starting what he hopes is the beginning of a new good stretch going forward. Katy, i know weve kind of used this language before, but was today the start of this, like, trump 2. 0 . We saw something wed never seen from the Trump Campaign before which was an oldschool policyoriented Rapid Response. Reporter tradition i think is the word that youre looking for, peter, and you really hit the nail on the head in that intro. We saw him tweet out nine separate times in response to this Hillary Clinton speech. We got nine different emails from the campaign. That is called Rapid Response. Its traditionally what a Communications Team and any Political Campaign does. And they start doing it from the beginning. Donald trump has never done that. He has been his own Rapid Response tweeting out his own responses to the various attacks that are coming his way. Oftentimes tweeting out insults instead of anything substantial. Today we saw a little more of the substantial. This is what we could consider at least on day one trump 2. 0 and while sources in the party and sources on the hill and donors dont necessarily believe that donald trump will change with this ousting of his Campaign Manager, corey lewandowski, and the more Traditional Campaign manager, more oldschool Campaign Manager Paul Manafort taking over, they do believe that the campaign, itself, is going to change. And that means theyre going to have things like a Communications Team. Like Rapid Response. Stuff that we saw today. They believe its going to normalize procedure and theyre hoping, at least on the party side, theyre going to be able to capitalize on this frustration that the American Public feels about the economy. As you said, they think that he would do a better job than Hillary Clinton would. And they want to make sure that they can take that as well as they can and then put that out there and make donald trump own it instead of having Hillary Clinton dent his armor over and over again without any real response back. So, katy, help us set the table for tomorrow morning. What do we expect out of trumps speech tomorrow attacking clinton . This, too, was a speech that was expected to happen, frankly, right after orlando. They delayed it, of course, given what took place, that tragedy in florida. Now they want to squeeze it is before he heads overseas to scotland. Reporter i think theyre going to throw the kitchen sink at her. As you said, this was delayed because of orlando. They had this in the works. That means theyve had more time to work on this speech. Corey lewandowski is no longer involved so theyve had more time to get Paul Manafort, at least, to get their message into Donald Trumps head and i think we saw a preview of it today when he was tweeting out his responses toward Hillary Clinton. Hillary defrauded america as secretary of state, used it as a rich personal hedge fund to get herself rich, corrupt, dangerous, dishonest. Thats what he tweeted today. I expect to see him talk about the Clinton Foundation and the troubles he believes they are having. Benghazi, her reaction to that. Also libya. Her decision to go into libya. He says that he was against it even though he has said that he was before it in the past. Hes going to try and paint her as a danger to the american economy. Right. Reporter and a danger to american interests overseas. Kasie hunt, katy tur, thank you very much. Were joined by gene sperling, he was the top economic adviser to both president S Barack Obama and bill clinton. Hes now advising Hillary Clintons campaign. Mr. Sperling, thanks for your time. Why isnt clintons economic message connecting nationally . Voters, as weve been reporting, trust trump more than they do clinton to handle the nations economy. I think, theres no question, donald trump is known as a businessman. Hes been on tv. Of course, hes going to start out with that perception. But notice people do believe that she is the one who fights f for the middle class and i believe that as time goes by, his purported strength, his private sector experience, will go from being a strength to his achilles heel because i think people will see, and have already started to see, that one, when it comes to talking about the economy, his comments about that america would consid consider defaulting, printing money. These are dangerous words. What a president says doesnt just loose lips just dont sink ships. They can sink the economy. He has shown no sense he has the temperament to be the person at the helm. Secondly, when people start looking at his private sector experience, what theyre going to find is some of the worsts ethics and values in terms of normal hardworking americans. This wont be complicated stuff. When you look at what hes done at trump u. A lot of americans have been theres a lot of questions about Hillary Clintons ethics and values, obviously, on all sorts of issues over the course of this campaign. Hold it. On the economy, which what were talking about, is that donald trump, youve seen story after story from reuters, usa today, wall street journal that donald trump has throughout his career stiffed hardworking small businesspeople of thousands and thousands of dollars to so many. These are carpenters, mechanics, window makers. These are regular hardworking americans who he has stiffed repeatedly. His Trump University sought to get older people to take money out of their 401 k s for this fraudulent proposal. They would not give a refund to a mother and teacher with a down syndrome child who was bilked out of 25,000. So let me when people see this is how he has made his money, what its going to show is hes not a successful businessperson who created value and jobs. If hes made money, its at the expense of other people, expense of hardworking small businesses, average americans. Let me get in here really quickly. A weakness, not a strength. Hillary clintons obviously had plenty of her own weaknesses through the course of this campaign. The question, less on donald trump, respecting this is binary, but on Hillary Clinton, the woman you advise specifically here, is clinton running on four more years of the obama economy . No, i think that she is running on the idea that barack obama inherited a near great depression. That he did a very strong job facing a recalcitrant republican congress. When you think about it, when mitt romney ran for president , he promised by the end of his first term, unemployment would go to 6 . Its now 4. 7 . Barack obama with the difficult congress he has has made great progress. Shes also made clear that this economy is not strong enough. That wages are stagnant for the middle class. Where does she disagree . Where does she and the president disagree economically . Well, i think the place they may have some disagreement is on trade. She is going to be taking a tougher approach on trade. She is not supporting the tpp. I think youre going to see a very aggressive effort against against china, you know, much more aggressive litigation. I think that and taking them to task for where theyre breaking our trade rules. Donald trump says thats his strength. But i think where Hillary Clintons strength is going to be is that she has an economic plan in which the entire focus is on strengthening middle class security. About whether jobs are being created here and shes putting forward specifics on modernizing infrastructure. Creating jobs through energy, manufacturing. About debtfree college. About giving more people the skills and kcredentials they ned to fill the jobs that are open. About paid family leave and the other things that are important for family security. Every day, theyre going to be hearing her with a concrete plan for the middle class and from him probably bombastic lines about isolationism, antiimmigrant rhetoric which is not going to be good for the economy. Its not good for our values as a country. Let me in for a second. Hillary clinton dodged this socialism question. Bernie sanders, you remember, still in this race right now. She was asked by Chris Matthews about it earlier this year. I want to play it for our audience then get you to help her out. Whats the difference between a socialist and a democrat . Well is that a question you want to answer or would you rather not politically . You know, youd have to ask im asking you. Youre a democrat. Hes a socialist. Im not one. Okay. Whats the difference between a socialist and democrat . I can tell you what i am, ast a progressive democrat. How is that different from a socialist . Who likes to get things done and believes were better off in this country when were trying to solve problems together. Gene, help her out. Whats the difference between a democrat and a socialist . Look, im not here to do general definitions, but i believe that the kind of progressive democrat that she is is one that understands that were, of course, a market economy, that we, of course, rely on job creation, small business, entrepreneurship here. But believes that we as a country have a responsibility in the face of strong economic change to make sure that we are shaping that change so that it is not hollowing out the middle class or being indifferent to the middle class as i think weve seen from too Many Republican administrations in the Republican Leadership and one that is actively seeking to shape economic change so that it strengthens the middle class. That it focuses on our middle class families seeing their wages, hopes, their aspirations, their dignity and security rising. That is the singular focus of what her campaign is, why shes running for president and i think thats going to do a lot better than mr. Trump who has spent a lot of his life taking advantage of the very middle class people a point youve certainly made well here. Gene sperling, thank you very much for your time. We appreciate it. Thanks for having any. Joined now by msnbc political analyst rick tyler who was, of course, a top adviser on the Cruz Campaign. Nice to see in person. Thanks so much for your time. No secret that the Cruz Campaign let you go. Can the firing of a top aide, cannot change the trajectory of a campaign . Yeah, i think so. The campaign was bleeding. I mean, the numbers are the negative numbers are so high. 77 of women with africanamericans, with hispanics, on and on. And they needed to show, especially their donors and their base, that somethings going to change. So does this is this enough to show that somethings going to change . Well see. Every time they said theres a 2. 0 or somethings going to change, you turn the tv on another day later and it didnt change. The problem is this feels like day one of the Trump Campaign, literally. Just put out his first fundraising email today. Right. Its day 435 of the Clinton Campaign since she announced. Yeah. Now you can see the difference in the fundraising, the ground game, in the staffing, the Rapid Response, and the research and the ability to put out a speech like she did today. Weve seen resets before. Does this one do you have faith this one has staying power for the campaign . Yeah, i just dont know if its going to be enough. We saw a dramatic improvement today, right . So we actually had a Rapid Response. We actually had someone besides trump trying to protect his own brand. Its obvious there were no exclamation points at the ends of tweets, right . Very simple terms, the points were clear and policy oriented as opposed to the language hes used which has been more bombastic and everything else. The things i think they could or should do because party unity is a big problem now because you have leaders in washington, d. C. , havent fully embraced donald trump, you could see a scenario where the congress and frump get together on a set of policy initiatives. So what does the first 12100 da of the Trump Presidency look like . The first year . The first four years . It has to be bigger than trump, yes, ive heard all the things about trump but i bllike what theyre fro posing. Buys them time and confidence with their base that theyre going to accomplish something. The question is, is donald trump capable of the restraint necessary in a Campaign Like this . As we just talked about, the new filings coming out at the end of the month of may. He beat you guys. Yeah. Your former campaign at the beginning of the month of may. He he had a full month to himself and yet raised 3 million 2 million which was his. Of course. Is he capable of using his hands for pinger pointing to being the guy who can graciously put his hand out and ask for cash . It remains to be seen. Donald trump said many times i can change, i can change. He hasnt changed. I dont know if hes not getting the right support to change or right network or support group to help him change, but hes not changed. What happens to republicans like yourself who are still waiting to see that change to be convinced this is a candidate you can support . What do you do . How long can you wait . Its a conundrum. It really is. We want to keep the houses. It hasnt zodone us any good. We want to keep the senate. That hasnt done us any good. They say get the house, the presidency, the presidency, everything is good. Is anything going to change in cleveland . Look, its an outside chance but if he continues to bleed the polling numbers and keeps continuing to lose by double digits, and the party gets a sense that this nominee will be a catastrophic for the republican party, you could see something change. Right now today, very doubtful. What does he need to say tomorrow when he speaks about Hillary Clinton . A couple weeks ago when the i. G. Report came out, this should have been a home run for trump. He could have spent two weeks attacking Hillary Clinton. The i. G. Report he missed the boat on all these things. Still the conversation was based on a judge in indiana, his heritage, and the muslim ban he questioned again and questioning whether president obama sympathizes with terrorists. Most people in the middle class, that what hillary is working on and thats what donald trump has been wanting to get, too. Gene sperling, every one of his solutions is the government solution. The government is going to take care of you, somehow the government is going to make everything better. We need someone on the republican side to articulate how free market created the wealthiest society in all of human history, like not even close, in such a very short period of time. Is donald trump capable of being that person . I dont know. I mean, he is a businessman. I think he is a smart man. But if he could articulate that free market works, its best for the middle class, its best for the poor, its the equalizer in terms of economic opportunity. And if you dont have the government is not going to make everything equal for everybody. And they cant create wealth and they cant invent, cant innovate, they cant create. That has its consequences. Rick tyler in person, nice to see you. Appreciate it very much. Coming up, donald trump hits Hillary Clinton on her faith as he courts evangelical leaders today. Tony perkins of the Family Research Council Joins me with details from todays meeti inme and later New Hampshire senator kelly ayotte seeking compromise on gun reform. Will it help or hurt her reelection bid . Stay tuned for the race of the day. New hampshire edition. O dont hs to basic banking, but that is changing. At temenos, with the microsoft cloud, we can enable a banker to travel to the most remote locations with nothing but a phone and a tablet. 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We dont necessarily even think that theres necessarily going to be somebody in the white house thats for us. But we dont want somebody in the white house thats against us. I think it was a tremendous meeting and everybody had an opportunity to really hear the man personally. I think he hit it out of the ballpark today. Donald trumps unpredictable, but unfortunately, Hillary Clinton is completely predictable and, you know, he was warmly received. He didnt do anything, i think, to hurt himself in the event. Seven evangelical leaders who were in those meetings told spoke to reporters afterwards. They were all asked if they would endorse trump. None of them said they would. That includes my next guest, tony perkins, president of the Family Research council and he helped facilitate trumps meeting with faith leaders in new york city today. Tony, very much appreciate your time. Youre also a delegate as we just said, you have not committed to trump. After todays visit, are you closer to supporting him . And why or why not . Well, thanks for the invitation to be here. What this was about was beginning a conversation between donald trump and the evangelical community because theres a big gap between them and this was the beginning of a process in which he had the opportunity to share his thoughts on some issues that were very important. So whats the biggest obstacle for the evangelical community with donald trump right now . Whats the one thing youre waiting to hear that you have not heard that would satisfy you . Well, i think, look, when you look at a political figure, past performance is the best indication of future performance. I was in public office. Ive worked in this realm for 20 years. He has no record. Hes not held public office. He formerly said hes prochoices. Thats something that haunted him. He is. He had policies in the past different than the policy sames hes stated. Even in this campaign hes changed positions from one thing to another. Thats okay. As you learn, you change. Thats a good trait. However, theres nothing to really anchor to so i think people are waiting to hear what hes saying concretely. For instance, today a lot of discussion about religious liber liberty, lot of discussion about the military. I think a running mate is going to be very important. Does he pick someone who has a conservative track record, that has a relationship with social conservatives . Those are going to be important factors as people who are some running mate names that would satisfy evangelicals right now to give you a sense that he has that anchor that would be on the ticket with him . Name a few names youd be looking to hear that youd say, okay, now were on to something. Well, theres a number that actually ran in this president ial cycle. I mean, you have rick santorum, you have governor mike huckabee, you have t ted cruz who would me an excellent running mate. Ted cruz yet to endorse donald trump, lets be clear. I understand that. Im not saying its going to happen. Im saying what would be something that would bring evangelical social conservatives along, give them that comfort. I think senator Jeff Sessions of alabama whos been an adviser to donald trump would be another one. Theres several out there that would do the trick. So pastor, today bishop e. W. Jackson, a virginia pastor who attended the meeting today that trump held, published this video of trump on his twitter account. Take a listen very quickly. Hillary in terms of religion. Shes been in the public eye for years and years and yet theres no theres nothing out there. Theres, like, nothing out there. Its going to be an extension of obama, but its going to be worse because with obama, you had your guard up. With hillary, you dont. And its going to be worse. Donald trump saying we dont know anything about hillary in terms of religion. In fact, we do. Shes been public about her methodist faith. Shes spoken about it, shes written about it. She attended church. She actually had a close relationship with billy graham. So is Hillary Clintons faith the real source of concern . First off, i dont think faith should be used as a weapon. I think fait h is a building block, a bridge. What people are looking for, polling suggests 60 of americans want a leader who readily recognizes god, prays to god. I think its the fact that they want someone to whom this political figure will be accountable when theyre not watching. So faith is a very important part of our political process. Today was a discussion about policy issues and how ones faith guides those issues. Today was conservative evangelical social conservatives. But this, mr. Perkins, to be fair, this was also from today. He questioned the president s religion. Also questioned Hillary Clintons. In the course of the campaign, these are some of the things he said about some campaign opponents. Just take a listen. To the best of my knowledge, not too many evangelicals come out of cuba. Okay . Just remember that. Im presbyterian. Boy, thats down the middle of the road, folks. In all fairness, i mean, 7th day adventists i dont know about. Hes a choke artist. I dont believe are you sure hes a mormon . Are we sure . He choked. We saw him criticizing ted cruzs faith, questioning ben carsons faith, questioning the mormon faith of mitt romney. You say faith should not be used as a weapon in a campaign. This candidate, the republican presumptive nominee, has used it repeatedly throughout the course of the campaign and today again questioned his democratic rivals faith. How do you react to that . I go back, repeat what i said, i dont think faith should be used as a weapon. I dont agree with those statements. I think stating where one stands in their relationship with god and how important their Christian Faith in this case is in how they come to conclusions, decisions, guidance, is important to know. Attacking another candidates faith to me is not a positive and i think to many evangelicals, its not, either. Look, this election is not about scaring evangelicals to the polls to vote with what Hillary Clinton might do to the country. Evangelicals are waiting for someone to cast a vision of how they can make America Great again. Thats why i think people are listening to donald trump. Today was a first step of a journey of building that relationship. Thats why you didnt see a lot of endorsements. It was simply the beginning of a conversation. So on faith, donald trump has said that his favorite bible verse was an eye for an eye. As an evangelical, does that worry you . Does that comfort you . What do you make of that . Look, in the primary, i endorsed tk endorsed ted cruz. I was active, i knew his faith construct was an evangelical solid christian world view. As you learn about trumps view, what do you think . Im left with two options. Im left i havent endorsed, by the way. Im left with Hillary Clinton or donald trump. Donald trump, look, for the last 7 1 2 years evangelicals have been attacked by the policies of this administration and ability to live their lives according to their faith. What donald trump said today, why i believe he gained a lot of ground, while he may not share the same theological views that all of those evangelicals have, what he said was i understand the importance of religious freedom and ill defend your right to live according to your faith. I understand virtue is important in our society. We may not agree on everything, but i will defend your religious freedom. Given what weve seen in the last 7 1 2 years, that was a very significant and Important Message to evangelicals. 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Ohio, of course, a swing state. Clinton and trump are running dead even there according to a new poll. Here it is. In a tight race, its places like columbus that could make the difference for clinton because in contrast to a place like cleveland thats long been a democratic stronghold, columbus is a spot where democrats still have room to grow. The democratic vote in Franklin County has been steadily growing over the last two decades. And the county is much more diverse than ohio as a whole. The population there, about 67 white compared to more than 80 pk on average in the entire state. Columbus is growing quickly. More than ten times faster than the states average. Well be right back with the lid. We were born 100 years ago into a new american century. Born with a hunger to fly and a passion to build something better. And what an amazing time its been, decade after decade of innovation, inspiration and wonder. So, we say thank you america for a century of trust, for the privilege of flying higher and higher, together. A farmers market. Ve whats in this kiester. A fire truck. Even a marching band. And if i can get comfortable talking about this kiester, then you can get comfortable using preparation h. For any sort of discomfort in yours. Preparation h. Get comfortable with it. One coat, yes one coat guaranteed marquee interior. Behrs most advanced paint. Come find our top rated paints, only at the home depot. Trumps own products are made in a lot of countries that arent named america. Trump ties are made in china. Trump suits in mexico. Trump furniture in turkey. And id love for him to explain how all that fits with his talk about america first. That was Hillary Clinton today in columbus, ohio, hitting donald trump on his business deals. Were going to talk that and the rest of the day in politics right now. This is the lid. Joining me is clarence page, columnist for the chicago tribune. Nbc news political editor, kerry dan. Former bush cheney senior adviser. Thanks to see you all in person. Thanks for joining us today. The Clinton Campaign, clarence, well start with you, coming out with a web ad today, of course, theyre making the same argument clinton made in her speech today attacking donald trump in effect as being reckless, in terms of the economy, calling him a business fraud. She still faces a real deficit against trump on the issue of the economy. How big of a challenge is this for her . It worked on Foreign Policy a couple weeks ago. Right. Will it work on business, where a lot of people say we need something different, we need a businessman . Yeah, shes obviously going right at that business image pointing out every failure she can find on his record. Everything that looks like what hes buying overseas products and services. Everything that goes against the core message that donald trump puts out. Both of them, of course, have tremendous obstacles in their own high disapproval ratings. Weve never seen a Campaign Like this where both republican and democratic nominee have more than 50 disa acdisapproval. Unfave bl for donald trump close to 80 . Thats right. Carrie, specifically, what was striking today, new poll numbers came out. Survey monkey poll has a sixpoint advantage nationally for Hillary Clinton right now. In some battlegrounds even after an awful couple weeks, trump is still neck and neck in ohio, basically even in pennsylvania, trailing in florida right now. How concerning is this for Hillary Clintons campaign that with this huge head start, in effect, theyre still neck and neck with him in a lot of these places . One thing the clinton out ist the poll was in the field from the 8th to the 19th of june. They launched their huge ad buy on june 16th. Their hope is this huge advantage they have in fund raising. She raised nine times as much as donald trump did. Theyre hoping to use that huge advantage, financially, to translate into big ad buys and publicize that message taking aim at him on Foreign Policy, on the economy to create a bigger advantage in places like ohio and pennsylvania. Hes going to take aim tomorrow. A speech hes been touting since i was up in new york and the massacre happened in orlando. This is expected to go right after Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. What does he need to accomplish tomorrow . He needs to accomplish hes president ial and he can go after Hillary Clinton on the facts. Thats the key in this whole thing. A lot of republican, myself included, are frustrated with the trump. When you look at the jobless economy and secretary clinton and the email situation and legitimate policy difference, donald trump has refused or he cant do there in terms of going toe to toe with secretary clinton. What he needs to do tomorrow is have some substance behind these attacks. He needs to have some st substance and were Still Holding our breath. He reads the teleprompter. It doesnt seem authentic. Trump was defending his rhetoric on the today show. Sgling i ha i think i have to be who i am. I dont want to be a phony like clinton where she reads stuff written up by high priced talent. I want to read what i am. Then on twitter, as clinton game her speech, he was much or policy oriented. Is authenticity challenge for donald trump. We know the way he is, but if he tries to be what a lot of people want him to be, its a bit of catch 22. Weve seen this from experience where hes promised Party Leaders he was going to be more president ial and that lasted 12 or 15 hours and he was back to zapping people with his tweets. He was remarkably subdued. I dont know if it was sedatives or what. I dont know how long it will last. Does that widen the audience . It worked in the primaries well but then he faced real challenges because a lot of other people were like i dont know about this. Theres two campaigns. Theres the primary that donald trump dominated with a lot of free media. He was not substantive against 16 other substantive people. As he transitions to the general campaign, i think he looks in the mirror and says i dont recognize myself if i have these high priced policy people around me because thats not what i am. He has a point because he can say thats not who gotten me this far. Senator bob corker said it was exciting to see the changes into a new direction the trump kpa campaign is going. Ask it possible that those folks within the republican establishment can start to feel more comfortable with this campaign. Only a couple of days ago two of my colleague, paul ryan said youre free to go with your conscience. Donald trump needs to speak to swing voters, independents, College Educated whites. Hes doing well among those w without a college education. Now hes speaking to a wider group. Donald trump, its not the primary anymore. He has to be concerned about down ballot races. A lot of anxiety youre hearing from members of congress isnt just about the white house. Its about the down ballot. Theres never been Anyone Around donald trump that can say youre wrong. This is not the strategy we should go down. Its yes, sir mr. Trump. Its a pivot that things will change. The grown ups now are running the household here, not the children. The question becomes, and weve had this conversation for the last three months, is can donald trump pivot. Thats the question. Can this stick . Will it last . Old men dont change their ways that much. I know because im almost 70. We like you just the way you are. You had a hit on what the problem was. He said let donald trump be trump. He did let trump be trump. Thats not working for the general. Hes got to be able to placate and ease some of the concerns people have out there even if they dont vote for him, they cant be scared of him being president. People are really scared of the idea of him being in the white house. These numbers were striking. 1. 3 cash on had now the the gut reaction across people who know why this matters, is what. Its a number that would be impressive for a house candidate. District attorney. Hillary clinton raised 30 times as much as donald trump. Campaigns arent just about persuasion, theyre able mobilization. Stick around. Well be right back. Nexium 24 hour introduces new, easytoswallow tablets. So now, there are more ways, for more people. To experience. Complete protection from frequent heartburn. Nexium 24hr. The easytoswallow tablet is here. When a moment turns romantic why pause to take a pill . Or stop to find a bathroom . 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