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President ial debates and the endnd of the state legislative session. Marco rubio. The republican senatorrom miami knows that he has to win florida tuesday, or his campaign over. At least, thats what the conventional wisdom says. I spoke with rubio a short time ago. And joining us now which satellite is senator marco rubio. Senator, good morning, good to see you. Good morning, michael. Good to sese you. Mike senator, you have been campgning nonstop around the state. Youve had enthusiastic audiences i know. But heres the question. The polls say that you cannot win florida. That you are far behind. Whats your feeling . Can you catch up . Can you win . We will. Im confident of that. I already told another journalist earlier, on wednesday have to make an explanation why they were so wrong. Place. Weve said an under dog. Were an unusu year. Were running into this electoral phenomenon. I hope people watch what awaits us if hes our nomine hes obscene and aggressive and vulg things that he says on a regular basis. Hes ripping ourarty apart at the seams. We cant solve problems if we discourse. We can disagree on issues, but not violently. We havent seen this since the 1960s mike not since george c. Demonstrations and violence. Donald trump says hes not responsible for the violence. Is he responsible . There are consequences. When you go around saying lets beat up the protester and ill pay the legal fees. When your Campaign Manager is under investigation for saulting a female in florida. When you have someone sucker punching someone at an event and when theyre released from jail and they say next time were going to kill them, he is responsible. Some people hear this stuff and is insights them to go further. I think hes responsible for look, yesterday he gave a rally and repeats this crazy story how some American General 50 or 60 years ago dipped bullets in pigs blood thats just not true. Of stuff and starts to cheer. First of all, that would have been a war crime. And second of all, its not we as a nation would ever do. What kind of leader goes around spreading a lie like that, as if its a glorious thing we should think about doing. There are consequences to this. Were saying it play out before our eyes. Mike senator, on wednesday night at the debate here at miamidade college, jake tapper asked donald trump about this. And he went into kind of an elaborate explanation. But he said i dont condone this. And i dont want my supporters to do this. But it seemed frankly kind of tepid. He did not say this is wrong. Are you waiting for him to say that . Yeah, but hes not going to do it. He got into the position that theres angry people in america. Instead of saying heres how were going to fix it. Hes decided to make them angrier andore frustrated and saying the reason this is going wrong for you, its japan, china, mexico, muslims, you fill in the blank, its their fault. Give me the power and well go after them. Its dangerous and were leading to like. And people need to wake upp and put a stop to this. And we are all i mean all of us are going to pay a terrible price for what is happening. Mike senator rubio, i think the idea of the coursening of the political discourse didnt start with donald trump. You told a Washington Post reporter that president obama bears responsibili. What has president obama said that is nearly as radical, as ive never said its nearly as radical in terms of violence. But ive seen this president in the past basically imply if you dont agree with him on medicare and medicaid that you dont care about the elderly. Ive seen him say if youre pro life, youre waging a war on women. If you dont agree with the healthcare plan, you dont care about sick americans. Hold on, let me finish. Ive heard him say if youre a supporter of the Second Amendment and dont support his gun laws, that you didnt care gun violence. So he has chosen to be divisive. Events. This is new since we havent seen since the 1960s. Its dangerous and im deeply concerned about that. Mike senator, on friday, i spent the day covering a visit Deputy National security advisor, who is really the architect of this initiative, this opening of relations between the u. S. And cuba. Ben rhoades said over and over again, the president is going to meet with ssents, with pro choosing. Thererwill be ten to 15 of them. Hes going to meet with them and give them his support and hear their concerns. That would be a good thing, wouldnt it . Sure. The problem is first of all, lets see the list. Second of all, a meeting is good. But a meeting is not going to cover up for the fact that the images are going to be around the world are the images of the u. S. President socializing and have a good ol time with a dictator. The mesge that sends is this whole thing about changing government in cuba, hats not a priority anymore. Were not really focused on that. Weve accepted this as thehe legitimate leaders of this should. Sure well give lip service to democracy. But a meeting with dissidents and democracy actors on the island is not going toe able to make up for the fact that the president and the images the world is going to see is that of the american president with his arm around and basically socializing with and sending a powerful image that we accept theastro government on the island. I think thats going to be devastating that is going to have longterm consequences fo the democracy on the island. Mike let me go bk to the point where we began, and that is florida. You are feeling confident that you are going to win on tuesday, just as in a sense as Bernie Sanders upset all the pollsters and the conventional wisdom in michigan. You won there. You think youre going toull it off here. I do. Of course, if people come out and vote. If people watching on a sunday afternoon you can vote early today. Because tuesday is going to be a but i need everyone to c ce out and vote. I need their help. I can win florida if the people go out and vote for me. Mike can you go forward if you dont with inon tuesday . Yes, because this is not a traditional year. Donald trump will have to win 62 of the delegates remaining in order to be the nominee. I dont know how he does that. And ted cruz would have to win 75 of the delegates. Theres no way he does that. So we areln chartered territory. But this is unique. If anybody else was the front runner, if it was jeb bush, the race would be over. But its donald trumpnd hes unacceptable to 2 3 of the Republican Party. So well after florida, this will be going on. Florida will be very important. If i win, it will be an enormous boost. We won in washington yesterday. Ill never give up. Mike senator rubio, thanks for your time. Well see you tuesday night in your home town. Thanks, michael. Glenna up next, two south florida lawmakers are in the house to tell us what they accomplished in tallahassee the stay tuned. The future is whats going to make us even greater. This Convention Center hotel alleviates the problem of traffic. All of which are gonna help the citizens and 1,40jobs, less traffic on our roads, and no new taxes. It is a win for everyone. You cant think about today. You have to think about tomorrow. Vote yes for our new Convention Center hotel. So hankies dropped after two months of bill crafting and horse trading. Mike its governor rick scott who may need a hanky. He didnt get what he wanted with little dissent, legislators passed an 82 billion budget. Money for worthwhile things and also turkeys. Glenna rodriguez is the representative well introduce him in a minute. But at the center of it, a republican from southwest miamidade, what chairs the Senate Judiciary committee. His actions killed the open carry and gun bills this session. The democrat from miami, one of the more vocal opponents of the governors tax cut that was cut just about in half. Welcome. Both of you. Mike great to have you both. Representative, you are part of the minority p pty up there. But all but one democrat voted for the budget that the senator and the republicans proposal. This was just, you know, a moment up until last year where you guys couldnt agree on anything. What was different . Guest there were two things that brought the legislature across party lines and the senate and the house. One, the governor has been so extreme in terms of his governoring style that its forced the chambers to work together. The district rulings have remapped the senate map and were seeing the dynamics are related to that. I voted for the budget because of two things. As a vice chair, it was a great year for the dade delegation. Guest but we got a lot of things done in policy and budget. The more important thing, i thought it was a great year for the budget. 286 million went to paying down went to our local schools to say pay down what would otherwise be more local property taxes in our sool system. The trajectory, the state pretending theyre cutting taxes mike the budget that the governor proposed put the onus on local taxpayers. Guest thats true. Ive been harping on the same thing is the trajectory to reverse that. Its dangerous trajectory. What this budget did this year is responsible tax relief because it helps pay down otherwise local property taxes. As you said, the governor wanted to be majority local property tax. Funds. Thats a very dangerous thing. Glenna as s ng as you brought up education, senator, in the education bills that passed, theres a lot of concern that so much money has been diverted from Public Schools, especially in the capitol pot to the charter schools, not o oy siphoning money out of Capitol School pots, but also there was a bill that would sort of tell the people involved, no profits are supposed today go to the people building, the developers. Lets keep the money in the schools. But that didnt pass. So didnt Public Schools really take a hit ts time . Guest well, no. I think we made a lot of progress in education in terms of capitol funding, in terms of Property Tax Relief for everybody, local Property Tax Relief. We have record funding for education. Can we do more . Absolutely. And we can. You want to talk about is whats been done for special needs kids in our state. And i think that was a very, very important prerogative of the president of the senate. We were able to accomplish that. In terms of what youre talking about, which is the profits for the private developers of charter schoolu, you know the Senate Position was a strong one against that. Mike it was the house that beat that down. If i can, im on record, so its no surprise to say, i have complimented you publically. Let me do it again, for stopping the opencarry and campuscarry bills that appeared to be on their way to perhaps passage in the senate and the house. Now, why did you do that . Im glad you did. But why did you do it . And how much pressure was there from the n. R. A. And gun supporters . Guest well, i stopped session and this session. Airportcarry. And yeah, there was pressure. You know, the n. R. A. Put a lot of pressure. You have to remember, the opencarry bill was a bill sponsored by senator don gates, president. Mike a lot of clout. Guest a lot of clout and a lot a pressure. Mike excuse me. What was your reasoning . Why didnt you think it was a good idea for opencarry . A number of other states do it. But particularly campuscarry, wherat State College universities, kids who are 21 or over and have a concealed weapons permit could have brought guns on campus. Just not a good idea, was it . Good idea. And ive been quoted saying its not a good idea to give every 21yearold a concealed permit safe. So if theres a concern and there is a concern about campus that. Its not by giving every 21yearold a handgun. Glenna theres as much news abou things that did not pass that did. One of the big losers was Enterprise Florida, the governors Big Initiative to put 250 million into job creation. But representative, what the governor said was without this, 272 business deals that would have created 50 jobs, might not happen. Is that ringing an alarm . Guest no. If i can touch on the gun bills very briefly. Mike of course. Glenna sure. Guest i would say two things. One thing we have to thank again is the Fair Districts amendment that dealt with jerrymandering. Guest while the senat was consistent for campus carry, while a little bit on the opencarry and i want to call you out on the stand your ground law that the senator did vote for. It was a significant rewritef stand your ground that would have given we all agree that if somebody uses force or kills somebody in selfdefense, they should have an opportunity to prove it. But this would have made the prosecutors have to prove that. And that was dangerous mike hold on just a minute. I wantt to give senator a chance to respond to that on stand your ground. Guest ill tell you, look, you want to talk about killing or stopping bad legislation. And i not only was one of the people who participated in stopping opencarry or campus or airportcarryt i led that charge the fact of the matter, theres a reason why t league of women voters honor me as one of three legislators to get their working democracy making democracy work award. And thats because of the positions that ive consistentltl taken over the years. Mike on stand your ground, did you support the bill guest on the issue of stand your ground, there was i did vote for a slight modification in committee, but ultimately, thats not something we ended up supporting, and it didnt bece a priority of the senate. As you can tell, theenate has always led and ive been one of the leaders in the last five or six years in the senate to have a moderate common sense approach to legislation. Mike its more moderate in thee senate. The house is fairly conservative. Youre not. But we understand that. Glenna we need to take a quick break. Mike we need to take a well be right b theres a big difference between making noise, tapping sound and making sense. elephant sound donkey sound when it comes to Social Security, we need more than lip service. Our next president needs a real plan to keep Social Security strong. elephant noise hey candidates. Enough talk. Glea we are back talking end of session with the senator and the representative. And right before the break, we started talking about one of the failures of the session, Enterprise Florida. Governor. He was out there, he had those campaigning. Guest what the governor hundreds of millions of dollars invested in the private sector under the guise Economic Development. The governor wanted to reduce oversight and multiply by five how much the public i invests. In the house there was significant opposition. I worked with a group of republicans and a small group of democrats to block it from the finance and tax committee. The policy component of what the governor wanted. And ultimately house leadership was effective against it, and it did not get funded to that tune. Im happy about that. I think its unfortunate we didnt have a realistic conversation what it means to do Economic Development. But i think putting more money with less oversight into the slush funds the governor has is not the way to use the publics money. Mike senator, i think one of the arguments against the funding was in the escrow Enterprise Florida millions and millions of dollars that havent been paid out. Guest correct. 143 million that is sitting that. Thats a significant amount of money. I want to Say Something about economic devopment that is important for our community in Miamidade County. Miamidade did very well in the bubuet in terms of projects and local projects that go to the heart of the Small Businesses and Economic Development in our community, including the 1 million that i got for miracle mile, refurbishing of miracle mile. Mike and the underine beneath the metro mile, theres 2 million there. I dont know what the governor will do that with. Guest thats a Game Changing project. I worked closely with that. So thats a terrific Game Changing project i think for Miamidade County in terms of inviting Economic Development in our community. That really, really work to stimulate job creatatn in our community. Thats a common sense approach to Economic Development. Guest i agree and i think again it was a great year for us in the dade lealdelegation. The miamimiater cleanup. The miracle mile. Id hate to say bringing home the bacon, but that is part of our job to make sure we get your share. And we tend not to get our share. Glenna a are you able to say broward counun . Did Broward County fair as well . Guest not as well as miamidade. But Broward County did well as well. You had a session where there was a lot of harmony. I this i the senates moderate moderating t te over the last six years has definitely contributed to that. Senate contributed to that. Andy and his style of leadership to empower the Committee Chair to say make policy decisions. Temperature. Mikik it worked. Representative, one of the, i of the session of the legislature is that floridans, especially in south florida i know, upset that nothing has been done on amendment one, passed in 2012 to protect the environmentally fragile ever glades and springs around the state. But you passed a bill that sets aside 250 million for 20 years to implement amendment one. Tell us about th. Guest so as people know, more than 70 of the electorate voted for amendment one, which is making sure our water the problem was that that wasnt just violated last year. It was brazenly violated. You look at what the money was used for. Mike nothing to do with what the people voted for. Guest its asking for a lawsuit. So i worked with representative harrol in the house to take the funds and designate them to everglades restoration. And that bill did pass. And that is a very good policy going forward. Glenna the biggest concern with the policy, there was nothing in the bill that holdsds the actual polluters responsible. The onus is again on the taxpayers for the clean up guest i was one of the two legislatures, only one of two, that voted against the legislators for that reason. Mike forgive me. I am going toave to cut you off. We are out of time. Glenna thank you. Ike great to have you again. Congrats on opencarry and campusucarry. Glenna up next, the debate of president ial politics ahead of the florida primary. Stay with us. We dont use msg, bha, b b or partially hydrogenated oils. Why . Because if its not a better ingredient, it doesnt make a better pizza. Mike it is time now for some analysis and informed opinion. We think its informed. About this weeks top stories with our power house round table. Glenna glad to welcome mark marc caputo, author of the politico daily play book. And welcome back as well to anthony mann lead political reporter for the sun sentinel. Welcome to the round table, veteran political reporter in south florida, op ed columnnnist. Mike as id like to say. [foreign language] guest it doesnt matter. Mike great to have you all here. Glenna and no lawyers this morning. Not that i i love our lawyers. But this is the coverage right mike lets begin if we can. And anthony, let me turn to you first with this alarming, is the word, that fits the violence weve seen a the Trump Campaign rallies. Really sturbing, because in my view, anyway, i this this affects the political system at every level. Weve got t o now in president ial politics, i think its going to happen maybe in other campaigns as well. Anyway, when you saw the you know, the fights, the violence in chicago friday, what did you think . Guest it was just amazing and shocking. I think the same reactions that everybody else had. And it was i guess not surprising that it came to that. Because you can tell the temperature has been rising and a lot of agitation among people who really like donald trump and among people w who really dont like donald trump. This is a city reeling from race relation discord. To have this rally there and ramped up. The geography counts here. Guest my father was a reporter at the Chicago Tribune and covered the 1968 democratic convention. We dont see police cracking skulls, at least not yet. But to anthonys point, the temperature has been rising. A democrat operative ipoke to yesterday said something interesting, if these guys cared the protesters if these guys cared about making a difference, they wouldnt be doing this on t. V. Theyve be organizing and turning out to vote. If people care about donald trump, this strengtheningng him. Guest im not surprised and i brought a quote and everything. I thought it was a brilliant article in the new yorker. But basically it says insults bigotry. The Republican Party spending years, are seeing the writing on the wall. And it says donald trump in very big letters. And the president says the same thing in south by southwest. He says were surprised quoting theres gambling in this establishment. Its been going on for years. Guest donald trump made a name for himself in a segment of the conservative movement. Not all of it. But pushing the birther method that president oma was not an erica. Guest and the republican establishment didnt try to stop that. Were not really sure. And they didnt want to a alienate the people that believed that. M ke how culpable of we to be enablersf donald trump . When he has a news conference, if you turn to fox or c. N. N. Or msnbc, if its an hour, they will put all of that hour onhe air and then guest during the primary on tuesday when hillary won, he was there selling steaks and no one would break away. Hello. [laughter] glenna twice in the last week, ive heard both marco rubio and ted cruz say its the medias fault. Guest of course theyre going to do that. Thats their common response to everything. To a degree it is in that i dont mind the press or t. V. Broadcasting all the speeches. What i mind is not the vetting yesterday, donald trump says on twitter, word is theres early dishonest voting in florida and we, he says are going to be asking law enforcent to investigation. As a lot of other reporters, i called the county and supervisors and nobody knew what he was talking about. Guest but the candidates themselves withhhe exception of jeb bush, they all ebled him i think. Guest they did. Rick wilson said it best, the strategy of the candidates, especially ted cruz was playing with the alligator in the hopes that it eats you last. [laughter] and that is whats happening. Guest there are also a lot of voters who are voting for donald trump. So i mean, to blame the media may be a little bit displaced. And selfsatisfied and smug and deserve a lot of criticism, but [laughter] i thought one of the bestt moments in the democrat debatat was when jorge or karen said to hillary is donald trump a racist . I mean, boy, thats putting it out there bluntly. And it seems to me she sort of did a soft shoe for 30 seconds and enumerated the reasons he is but wouldntse the word racist. Guest maybe its not polar for me to say it, i think he h has imbedded racial bigotry, but hes benefitting from very racist people. Guest people who respond to this, and most people who are racist, dont think theyre racist. They think mike most of my friends or many goo black friends, that kind of thing . Glea they call that micro aggression. Mike we have to takee break. Well be back with your round table. Just stickckith us. phone ringing you cant deal with something, by ignoring it. But thats how some president ial candidates seem to be dealing with Social Security. Americans work2hard, and pay into it. So our next president needs a real plan to keep it strong. elephant noise donkey noise cell phone rings where are you . Well the squirrels are back in the attic. Mom . Your dad wont call an exterminator. Can i call you back, mom . If youre a mom, you call at the worst time. Its what you do. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. O. Its what you do. Where are you . Its very loud there. Are you taking a zumba class . Mike welcome back on this sunday morning live in our studio. Rolling with anthony and bernadette and mark. Lets talk about marco rubio. We just saw the interview i just recorded with him this morning. He says that hes going to win florida, despite thehe polls saying hes down by between 922 points. And then he says illo on, even if i lose. How does he do that . Guest well, he does it by himself probably. Campaigns are like vehicles, and vehicles take gas, Campaign Money is the gas of our vehicle. If youre a loser of our own state, Campaign Contributors arent going to give himim money. Guest he has to say that. He cant be anything other than publically optimistic. Guest its painful to watch. Because i think honestly the ides of march are upon us. Glenna its not much differert what jeb bush was saying at the end of his campaign. You never saw anything other than im going to continue forward. And the mass then was not the mass now. Mike wouldnt you agree thatmarco rubio until about 11 or 12 days ago was just riding high . Guest until the lethal debate. The lethal debate started the down fall. Even if my audience, who is very pro rubio,o, i noticed people are saying theyre voting for ted cruz. Althou, there are a lot of them who support donald trump. Mike this was to say the obvious when marco began talking about trumps spray tan and then small hands and the other stuff. I mean, that was just a huge error of judgment. Guest it wasnt the cause he was on his way to losing. I think what bernie was referring to was the New Hampshire debate, marco rubios campaign was always on a tightrope. He had 0 margin for error. Glenna its interesting listening to him now taking a high road and admonishing the tone and the violent tactics of the Trump Campaign. But when he got down in the trump territory, with the hands and the size matters, that you saw his numbers really go down after that. Guest right. But dont mistake correlation with causation. If you look at the exit polls in virginia, the virginia vote was right after rubio did all the hand stuff. And the last threeday decider showed heon 40 of that vote. Guest was it trumps vote . Question. What we do know is that winning this campaign. When he lost those other states in virginia he downhill. Guest i think the crude language f from rubio was simp symptomattic of a problem. Guest he was back to the rubio weve seen years ago. Rubio was different. More relaxed and funny. Mike i thought he had a very good night. Bernie, lets look for a second at the democrats. Bernie sanders has sort of tuesday. And on subsequently that hes in this for the next couple of months. I mean this is going onto go on. The inevitable Hillary Clint is not quite as inevitable. Guest it was an interesting debate, because he brought up a whole bunch of details about immigration. Support. The whole minutemen issue. Sending the children back. And in cuba, he was very much not in the wrong p place at the wrong time. Because this is not a place in which to preach the wonderfulness of the castro regime. Guest how hard can it be to disavalue fidel castro . Mike why didnt he say, all right. I said that in 1985 and i was more enamored of it. Ive subsequently learnedhat hes done awful things. And hes oppressive. How hard is that . Guest by 85 his record was clear what fidel castro did. I dont get it. Guest thats why trump called him a communist. Mike bernie, what are your president s trip to cuba . Guest my listeners are not happy with it. They wanted to dictatehe terms of the visit, which is difficult. And to a degree they did. Because obama insists hes going to meet wh his dissents and not theirs. Mike ben rhoades, the National Security advisor was guest the point is not that. These people get beat up publically every week. But what is interesting to me, if youre there trying to s sl a capitalist, to a country that doesnt believeen private property, its a very difficult prosition. Theyve approved 400 permits for corporations to go down there ana invest. Mike and starr wood and a. T. And t. And carnival. Guest who do you pay . Your employer or the government . I wish we had more time. Thank you all for coming in. The glenna as always, thank you. Mike well seeee you again soon. And dont you go away. Stillo come, my personal perspective about the violence breaking out at the trump rallies. I think he is. Glenna take a live look now clouds are building, rain is coming. Here is our Weather Authority meteorologist with the rest of the forecast. Host good afternoon, south florida. Happy sunday. Still seeing plenty of sunshine. If you want to go to the beach, why not. Its beautiful. Theres still a high rip current risk. We can expect showers on the inland areas. We dont have High Pressure over us anymore. These will impact broward and northward for this afternoon. Herwise, a mix of sun and clouds. More humid with a high of 83 degrees. A surf of two to threefeet. And next week warming up to the 80s and drier. Mike thank you. Before we leave you, you donald trump says hes not responsible for the violence at his rallies. But in every way he is. The trump supporter who sucker punched a black protester as he carolina, he says the protector deserved it and next time, maybe theyll have to kill him. Id like to say it was an olated incident, but it is not. Friday night in chicago, they had to cancel the rally. Donald trump says hes not responsible for the violence or any violence. But listen to what hes said. Id like to punch him in the face. Knock the crap out of him. You know what theyd used to do to guys like that . Theyd be carried out on a stretcher. Mike that kind of overheated rhetoric would be unacceptable, but from a president ial candidate, its unaccept and just qrong. Yet trump continues to den any responsibility. Abraham lincoln once said he want today appeal to the better and he did. So have all of our greatest Police Political leaders. Donald trump does not. Hes started a fire he may not be able to put out. But he must quiuily and disavow this violence. Thats my perspective. Informed and get involved. 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