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Protect democracy and also to push back about some of this? this is where the democrats get on the offensive, campaigns, particularly when you are in power, it is a referendum on you are going to lose it nine times out of 10. you have to make a choice. and i think this is where youre seeing the polls. trump is still very popular but more than half the people are not sure theyd vote for him, went through that in 08, clinton super powerful front runner but people are open to somebody else. that gi...

N.a.t.o. on alert that we have -- we have challenges together. he has backed the ukrainians in a strong way and putin thought he could divide the west and hit ukraine wont anybody noticing or caring and thats already off the table. jacqui: all right. >> well see what putin decides to do. i hope he backs off a full scale invasion, but theyre a lot more ready, the u.s. and the west are a lot more ready than before putin attacked georgia in 08 or ukraine the first time in 14. i wish we were ready a...

Intelligence has also gotten rid of in concert frankly with our nato allies gotten rid of any chance putin had to make an excuse that somehow this was started by the ukrainians. we saw the intelligence community, for example, say if there is a coupe it, would be driven by the russians. we saw the -- the fact that the russians were going to put out a video that was a false flag operation. we prewarned that i think thats kept putin a little bit off his game although he clearly still came in with g...

Would put you roughly in the path of evacuation routes. but you said lviv at this point is essentially something just short of a ghost town. i think it people are not going through lviv on their way to poland. they are going around it and in fact maybe evacuating kyiv as well towards poland? >> you do have some people leaving lviv at this point. you dont have a mass evacuation from lviv. you do have the mass evacuation from places like kyiv. traffic is absolutely brutal. i have been to that bord...

>> aged me quite a bit. >> it looked slightly younger in the clip. i have to go. it wraps the convo together, we talk about campaigns are about ideas. joe lieberman would agree it was an ideas campaign and 08 took iraq policy and internet organizing with obama and went a different direction. really interesting conversation. thank you both. i have to keep it moving. we have general mccaffrey on site standing by to give key analysis. what do we need to know about whats going on in ukraine. later...

A viral video on ukrainian social media channels shows a missile slamming into the front of the regional state administration building. which looks awful. that is outside ofthat which looks awful. that is outside of that building. _ which looks awful. that is outside of that building. those _ which looks awful. that is outside of that building. those pictures i which looks awful. that is outside | of that building. those pictures are really quite shocking. that causes a huge, fiery explosion tha...

Ukrainians and they need that military support as well. >> general. >> ari, i would just -- listen, we are behind what the white house is doing. these are a strong set of sanctions but we have to be academically honest. we sanctioned them after 08 and we understanded up in 14. we sanctioned them in 14 and here we are again. what is clear is these sanctions are hurting russia. they are hurting the economy. they are hurting the people but what we have not seen, what we have not seen yet in 08, 14 ...

Rhodes told me in 2014, hey, we had a whole bunch of intelligence we never sent out. now theyre saying all this. we see how similar the playbook is in 08. do you look at any of this today and wonder if only we did "x" or were we always going to end in this situation because we couldnt -- there was no pretext before he did what he did in georgia? >> when he went into georgia, we consciously said we need to deny him his tactical objectives and to make him pay a strategic price, because if we did n...

His behavior. so do we continue? now we have the sanctions on that are more onerous than any before. its strangling the entire russian economy. theres no companies to do business with them. every strock on their exchange is worth nothing. so is this is the right write a to go about it? >> i applaud what our government is doing. if we look in history after 08, after 14, in the beginning of this episode, we told them exactly what we were going to do to them. thats what our white house said. so the...

Take a view that theres only so much that can be done from a white house to prevent the kinds of losses were showing here? >> well, its a great question, steve. i think generally macro forces more important than questions of messaging or tactics. i remind you back in 2010, you remember, democrats had monster elections in 06 and 08. won everything they could win. were owning a lot of hostile turf. probably going to give back in a neutral political market, but 2010 was not. still in the teeth of a...