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Strengths and all that of will -- were going to have time to met out. they have states to run. >> we got a country to run. >> i want to ask on this. what i heard you say, this deficit reduction, the economic questions, part of what im interested in, post 08 the conservative voices that emerge were the limbaughs and the glenn beck rather than elected leaders. what im wondering, is there a way in which elected republicans might help to move conservatism towards an actual conservatism as opposed to...

It was clear in the average polls. i think john is right about this, there was an assumption inside the party that there was going to be a different electorate. >> did you see it, bob? did you see the excitement this time we both saw in 08 for obama? >> of course you didnt see the same level of excitement, but i saw a level of determination that was intense. i saw people waiting for hours in line in the polls. ill tell you one other thing. you cannot explain simply by your conception of what the...

This guy was going to get the same turnout he got last time? >> well, it was clear to joel benenson who was the obama pollster and who got it right on the money. it was clear in the average polls. i think john is right about this, there was an assumption inside the party that there was going to be a different electorate. >> did you see it, bob? did you see the excitement this time we both saw in 08 for obama? >> of course you didnt see the same level of excitement, but i saw a level of determina...

Be thought well of and sit in some foundation office, i dont think so. >> and beth, youve got to think that bill clinton is probably not talking her out of it. >> bill clinton would love hillary clinton to be president. in fact, the fact that he was so magnanimous with president obama this past campaign was a miracle to a lot of us who covered hillary clinton in 08 because i think the president, bill clinton took his wifes loss harder than she did in that campaign against then senator obama. loo...

His base and go on the road? >> go to charlotte and say, fairness and then they run to try to beat the tax man, which is -- he is doing his job as a corporate executive. >> shame on them. i cant even talk about it anymore. >> joining our panel is msnbc contributor, ari melber. an author of the report about how the campaign tried to turn its grass roots network into a governing force in the presidents first term. nice to have you with us. >> despite the drama that it is causing, the president is ...

Time than to do something and to send somebody there who is going to vote against my values and my views. >> at least in the case of bernie madoff, madoff got the money. who got all this money? he didnt even get it. it was just waste approximated. >> so he says. you really believe karl rove didnt get any money. i dont believe it. >> we like this "hardball" here. karl rove off with the money. was this like the producer where you think were going to win but well make more money if we lose. >> the ...

Ohio, the governor in florida. all they did was inspire democrats to come out and vote. >> the romney campaign made two mistakes in terms of polling. the one was they had this almost religion thought that the young voters, minority voters would not turn out. one thing we didnt talk about enough during the election is a lot of people really like barack obama, particularly among the youth and minority voters and a lot of white voters as well really like barack obama. so they missed that. they seem...

>> i think thats right. bob, youre a pro-lets go through the first one. perception is about the enthusiasm level. we were watching the last election. you could see well before the election of 2008 the excitement for obama. i felt it myself obviously at the rallies wed go to. all the speeches. this time around it was an effective excitement. it wasnt we love this guys speeches. the speeches werent that great this time by obama but it was effectively excited because they decided to vote for other ...

Some >> not much better. what bailed america and the world out of the depression was the second world war. >> gretchen: exactly. how did you get out of the mess in the 30s. we dont want to predict that. >> steve: we are just getting out of two of them. >> i think the bottom line here is fdrs policiless did not get america out of the great depression, will president obamas policiless get us out of the great recession that started in 07 and 08, thats the question. >> steve: fdr got reelected a thi...

2014. i feel like this is deja vu. its a similar map as in 2012. democrats defending more seats. this was the big 08. this was all these guys elected in 08. theyre defending more seats in red states. you have alaska, the surprise victory there. you have landry, prior, some tough areas. and then theres a whole bunch of senate democratic veterans, jay rockefeller, tom harkin, dick durbin, baucus -- >> who may very well retire. >> thats what i was going to say. the first step to follow how well the...