on. again, they were working so frantically and exhaustively trying to get these two people out. unfortunately a sad outcome in the end, don. >> yeah, that's a really awful outcome. brian todd, thank you very much. you heard the warning from brian todd, you also heard it from miguel marquez. unless it is a dire situation, they're asking you not to call rescue workers or emergency workers or dial 911 because they have their hands full. they're dealing with people who have flooding issues, dealing with people that may have trees down, people that need immediate medical attention. there's an update on florence. i want to get to meteorologist jennifer grey at the cnn weather center, she has it for you. jennifer? >> this is still a hurricane, 75 miles per hour, winds are still gusting. seeing torrential downpours. unfortunately see rain bands set up to where they're training. storms are just hitting the same spots for hours and hours on
end. some of them raining several inches an hour. it has been going on nearly 24 hours. you can see the center of the storm, not much eye, it pretty much collapsed. 20 to 30 miles southwest of wilmington, pushing into south carolina. a little drier air tried to sneak in which is good news here. between emerald island and sneed's ferry, getting dry air. new bern still getting torrential downpours off and on. you can see here on the border of north carolina, south carolina, whiteville getting torrential rain. the storm is still holding together. it's going to sit here another day or so before it starts to finally lift to the north on sunday. but we're still going to get gust gusty winds. wilmington beach, this is 9:30 tonight, still getting 55 to 60 miles per hour winds, even well inland. fayetteville, 50 miles per hour winds. we're going to see that on shore flow continue for north carolina and that's what's been causing
all of that flooding, especially in rivers because it is causing rivers to flow backwards. that water is pushing west and can't allow it to flow downstream. oriental, carolina, 20 inches of rain. wrightsville beach, 18.5. rain totals keep going up and up, as long as rain bands are sitting over them. we had 108 miles per hour wind in dafdsville, and more rain is still to come. can't stress enough this is not over yet. lot of times we talk about storms making landfall and wrap up and say everything is fine. that's not the case with this storm. it will sit here for quite some time. even days and days after the storm we're going to continue to see river flooding well inland, where we could see record breaking levels, higher than floyd, a lot of levels people said were the highest they've ever seen. we'll see it top that here in north carolina unfortunately in the next couple of days, don. >> all right, jennifer grey,
trying to keep posted. find out what the storm is doing, is it going to stick on us a little bit? >> yes, it is going to stay over for awhile, could be a couple of days. the worst where i am, i'm in myrtle beach, the worst won't happen until maybe midnight hours. at least we won't get the beginnings of the storm, but then it will continue to sit here and circle. i have to ask you, in wilmington we're getting first confirmation of two people that died, a baby and a mom. >> oh no. >> due to a tree falling. i'm wondering what conditions you're able to see where you are now? >> there's a tremendous amount of trees down. i have three down in my backyard alone which crushed a chicken coop, a well house. looking out the backyard, can see probably nine or ten trees, big trees, that are down.
kind of depends where you go in town, you'll get a big gust in a certain area, maybe not so much in another area. i think one went through my backyard. i was down by the marina by wrightsville beach, and overall, not too bad. we got flooding in lower levels. >> todd, how many family members, is it you by yourself or do you have folks with you? >> i have my wife and my daughter which i have sent to disneyworld, and my son is in raleigh to visit with family members up there, so i'm here by myself looking after property and my other businesses. and they're safe. they're on vacation. maybe i should have gone too. >> that probably would not have been a bad idea. we're glad you're okay. try to stay in the center of your home. there's much more to come when it comes to florence, and stay in a high area in your house as
well because we don't want you being a flood victim here. thank you very much, todd. take care of yourself. appreciate it. i want to get back to my colleague, brooke baldwin. brooke is there and covering this from new york. brooke, my heart broke when i heard you get the confirmation live on air about the baby and mom. it is awful. this thing is going to stick around awhile. sadly we're going to be reporting on more people that need a lot of help through the situation. >> i know. i can't stop thinking about them, can't stop thinking of the mother, baby, father who survived in route to the hospital. and think of the first responders that were there, many of them who are parents themselves, who saw this and tried to help and couldn't. don, thank you. stand by. also, we'll talk to someone that is trapped in their home, that's ahead. and a stunning turn of events in the paul manafort case. the former trump campaign chairman cutting a deal, agreeing to cooperate with the special counsel, robert mueller.
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her in time. that's three in terms of deaths so far. it is early yet. miguel marquez is in carolina beach, north carolina who's had the pictures of the day. you're in water through much of the day. now you're seeing othe story where you are, the water level and the wind. >> reporter: yes, brooke, it is absolutely horrendous that people are now dying. this is one of the concerns emergency services was worried about. i can tell you the reason that you have this tree falling on a house, winds are horrendous. this storm will not relent. this is the boardwalk in carolina beach. i want to show you something here that's amazing. the waves are unbelievable. they've grown in size, maybe doubled in size since this morning. we got up this morning, it was the eye of the storm, and it wasn't actually that bad. i have to walk this way, it is so darn painful. this morning there was beach up
to here. there was sand up to here. check it out now. about two feet of the beach is now gone here. they have erosion all the way down carolina beach here. it is just brutal. across new hanover county, about 108,000 people are without power, certainly here at carolina beach, we're without power. duke energy only serves about 128,000 people in new hanover, so most of the entire county is without power. how much longer will this go on is anyone's guess. the storm is moving so slowly, they think by saturday, perhaps sunday, the rain and worst of it will have gone by, they'll be able to reopen the bridge onto carolina beach and get people off and onto the island again. right now, just miserable conditions here. we are expecting another storm surge. another tide around midnight tonight. that storm surge at the same time we expect more flooding may
be the biggest test that carolina beach will face. brook? >> that wind is insane. miguel marquez and team, thank you so much on the island of carolina beach there in north carolina. coming up next, we are going to talk to a woman currently trapped in her home. more high water rescues. stay with me. i am brooke baldwin. this is cnn special live coverage of hurricane florence. - i love my grandma. - anncr: as you grow older, your brain naturally begins to change which may cause trouble with recall.
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we are back with breaking news on paul manafort, the former trump campaign chairman is now a government witness. he pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy and one count of witness tampering in federal court today and as part of this whole deal, he is cooperating with prosecutors, including special counsel robert mueller on quote, unquote any and all matters. so manafort's lawyer today choosing his words very carefully with reporters. >> update for mr. manafort, is he accepting responsibility, and wanted to make sure that his family is able to remain safe, live a good life. he accepted responsibility for conduct that dates back many years, everybody should remember that. so thank you everyone. >> we have standing by cnn chief
political analyst gloria borger, and jeffrey toobin, shimon prokupecz, let's start with you. this cooperation deal on any and all matters. >> yeah. and what could that possibly be, right? that's what everyone is questioning and asking sort of. what other information, what information could paul manafort possibly be providing. this is a big get for the special counsel. this is someone that they wanted to cooperate from the beginning. certainly when bob mueller came in and took over this investigation, his team, andrew weissman, one of the lead prosecutors, stood up and announced paul manafort is now cooperating, this is something they wanted for quite some time. something seemed to change, perhaps because paul manafort spent all of this time in jail and the prospect of facing the rest of his life in jail now perhaps led him to cooperate.
what's significant here also is that the government has agreed that based on his cooperation, if it is a successful cooperation and he does everything that he's supposed to do, they're going to write a letter to the judge essentially downgrading sentencing, which could mean he will be a free man and be able to move on, live his life. his cooperation is substantial obviously because he was in on a lot of meetings, had a lot of overseas contacts with russians, with ukrainians, with other countries, people associated with other countries. the other thing that's important in all of this, his cooperation is not limited to the special counsel. it has to do with the department of justice, and as we have been reporting the last several months, the special counsel team, bob mueller and his team sent cases all over the country, different parts of the country that have nothing to do perhaps with the campaign or russia or trump that have to do with other issues, that paul manafort may have knowledge of, and he will have to testify in those cases
as well. as you said, brooke, no doubt a significant get here, significant development. changes the entire dynamic of this investigation now. >> shimon, thank you so much. over to barrett and jeff tube in. we talked earlier when the news broke about the plea deal, you said my question is whether he cooperates. he is now fully cooperating. this is a big get, someone in trump's inner circle. what kinds of questions will he be answering for team mueller? >> i think the big question that's at the core of this investigation from the very start is we know there were these conspiracies of the russians, using social media and hacking. we know the trump campaign was extremely solicitous of russia, candidate trump was praising vladimir putin. what we don't know is whether there was a connection. did the trump campaign conspire,
collude with the russian government. if anyone is going to know that, it will be paul manafort, and i don't know what his answer is, but the mueller team will know soon. >> barrett, how would they know he's telling the truth? >> that's interesting. i think one of the ways they do that is by testing every single thing that a cooperating witness says against the other hard evidence they have. here they have the benefit of already having signed up many other cooperating witnesses, having served dozens of subpoenas, conducted an entire grand jury investigation. so they're going to ask him questions they already know the answer to. i think that's one of the ways they'll figure out if he is telling the truth or not. >> what would you be looking for next, other potential charges involving other people, you read between the lines and think is that because of something paul manafort said. >> the person clearly in the sights of the special prosecutor at this point is roger stone. they have been interviewing everyone around him. what makes him a potentially interesting target is that he is
someone who at least allegedly and this has not been proven or charged had connections to both wikileaks, that's sort of the russian side, and the trump campaign. that connection has not yet been made. >> gloria, back over to you in washington and this trump white house, the statement from sarah sanders saying this has nothing to do with us, nothing to see here. >> right. this is what they've always been saying. when he was indicted, this is what they were saying. today rudy guiliani said it. i have spoken to some people on the trump legal side as has my colleague, evan perez, they're all saying this is totally about paul manafort, has nothing to do with us. however, however i think we're being spun. i think that when bob mueller gets in there without lawyers and i would also say that the cooperation agreement maintains that the client has to testify
fully, completely and truthfully before any and all grand juries in the district of columbia and elsewhere. it is so broad. can't have his lawyers. he has no -- can't plead the fifth here. he has to tell the truth. don't you think they're going to ask him about the trump tower meeting? >> of course, he was in it. roger stone, too. >> don't you think they're going to ask him why did you join the trump campaign. we know roger stone was one of the people that actually recommended him as a participant in the trump campaign. why did you come on as a dollar a year guy when you're completely broke and join the trump campaign. i think they're going to go back to square one with him, not only about people he served with, the other people that were in that meeting in trump tower, don jr., jared kushner, et cetera, but also about what was going on in the trump campaign before the election. and that's of course the
conspiracy or collusion part of the investigation. and i think he is going to be key to them because they know that he knows that because of this agreement he signed, literally his life is on the line. >> he is a big fish, he will be cooperating and talking. thank you so much, gloria, and barrett. coming back, we will go back to special coverage of hurricane florence, don lemon is in south carolina where the storm is pounding the coastline. we're seeing rescues and sadly the storm has already turned deadly, three storm related deaths so far. you're watching cnn's special lif coverage. -- live coverage.
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patrols coming in to make sure people stay off the beach and out of the water. this is too dangerous now to mess around with, not to mention rip currents. the entire situation when it comes to this particular hurricane. it still as last forecasted, category one hurricane, and it is sitting there, barely moving. it will dump a whole lot of water. up the beach, nick watt my colleague in north myrtle beach where he is seeing damage going on with the hurricane. nick, what have you got for us. >> the surf has gotten wilder and heavier. we're still seeing gusts of wind. that wind is what is keeping first responders in the station. they're not going to answer any calls unless it is life-threatening. i got a text from the director of public safety, he said we're lucky right now. let's hope that holds.
if i was a betting man, not sure i would put money on that luck holding through the night. the storm moving 6 miles per hour down southwest, behind us. we will be in between the eye of the storm and the ocean with all of the rain pouring through the night. so far in north myrtle beach, a few trees are down, power lines are down. beyond that, not too bad. the water is beginning to puddle and pool. i just tested a bit of earth there, and the ground is just saturated. all of this rain that's now falling is sitting on the top, so we can expect to see some flooding later here today. this place is susceptible to flooding. it flooded before, it is expected to flood again as the storm moves behind us through the night into saturday morning. as i say, right now officials here are saying we are feeling lucky now. let's hope it holds. back to you. >> lucky for the moment, you're absolutely right. let's hope it holds. we still have a long time to go
when it comes to florence. sadly though we have gotten confirmation of at least three people that died in the storm. an infant, a mother, and also a woman apparently from cardiac arrest. sadly people have died. there are going to be many more people that will be injured because of flooding, because of downed trees, because of electrical situations and on and on. the folks helping out with that are people in the cajun navy as well as other emergency and rescue workers. todd carol is with the cajun navy, he is used to this, they help out all the time, he is in wilmington. that's where we have the confirmation of the first two people to die in the storm, todd. what are you seeing, were you able to help out? >> we wasn't able to help out in wilmington yet, we're here now. i think the eye wall is coming across us as we speak. we have been on the outskirts of the eyewall on the way in.
came in about 30 minutes ago, we barely made it in. water was just starting to come over the road. in bolivia, looked like a tornado came across the interstate, the opposite way was blocked off. we're in for rough weather. >> todd, where were you coming from, was your destination, i imagine wilmington, tell us where you came from and the situation on the roads there. >> well, the whole way in it was pretty clear all the way in until we started to get 25, 30 miles from wilmington. then the weather was just terrible off and on. we saw the eyewall. we came in from columbia, had a crew staged there, and another crew staged to the east. right now, the weather is some of the roughest weather i have seen yet. >> todd, you have experience dealing with these situations. tell us what you do when you first come on scene, how do you
assess it. who calls you for help? you hook up with local emergency people. what happens? >> it is a combination of things. we get with local law enforcement and emergency people, tell them we're here. sometimes they tell us they have it under control, the storm is going on, and sometimes we go in and see an opportunity to help people. you can get people a lot faster if you get to them faster. we get to them sometimes in vehicles faster than a boat. we get there and make a decision about getting in. sometimes you have a break between rain and storm and we go in and rescue at that moment as well. >> all right. thank you very much, todd terrell. you do great work. continue on with that, we'll check back with you. dana outlaw is the mayor of new bern. we have seen major flooding in new bern. we want to get to the mayor to give us an update. thank you for joining us. we know you're very busy. what's going on in new bern now?
>> well, we're continuing to rescue some residents that did not recently evacuate. we are trying to get that number down to zero. it has been -- we rescued about 200, then rescued another 110. so we have about 40 more to go. we are waiting on winds to decrease to where we can get personnel in and get power on. we have 15,000 without power. it is a serious situation. not a time to be out. we felt concerned about the welfare of our city, so we did a 24 hour curfew to give first responders time to assess their situation and road conditions before boats start to get out. we had as much as 100% people
with power out. so we are working on it as safely as we can do that. >> listen, there's a lot going on. did you say there were 200 or so rescues or 200 or so people you've gotten out so far that you rescued? >> i don't have the exact figure. there were 200 we rescued, and another 150, and we have gotten 110 of those rescued. we have folks call, not sure if they want to be rescued or not. >> what are they calling, is it because of flood water, what do most of them say when asking for assistance. >> they called 911, we then put them on a list, depending on where they're located, and when we can get a team there to get them to a shelter. that's when it happens. i mean, the process is moving
really well. we want to get all our residents rescued and get them into a safe shelter. >> dana outlaw, mayor of new bern where we've seen extensive flooding. we will let you get back to it. you have a lot of rescues to get to. unbelievable, you listen to the mayor, he says they rescued some 200 people, they have 150 more, of them, they have 110 out. but still have work on their hands. and we're in the middle of the hurricane. florence is really battering the carolinas. our special coverage will continue right after this break. only fidelity offers two zero expense ratio index funds
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probably get, sadly, more fatalities and definitely more injuries. there are also rescues going on all over the area. we were on with the mayor just moments ago. newburn is inundated with floodwaters. also the emergency folks there inundated with people calling trying to be rescued because they're trapped, because of flooding and because of other issues. four people, again, have died, a mother and an infant. also there's another person who was plugging in a generator who died, and then there is a woman who also died from some sort of cardiac situation. i want to get now to wrightsville beach. my colleague has been following the hurricane from there and he joins me now with an update. what are you seeing, martin? >> reporter: you know that this is roughly where the hurricane came ashore about eight or nine hours ago. the fact that we are still
slogging through some high winds -- i can't tell you it's hurricane strength, but very high tropical storm winds. some eight or nine hours later shows you the power of this storm. it is a very powerful category 1, and unfortunately, as you just reported, it is also turning into a deadly category 1. the storm just won't let go, and here's the thing going on here. wrightsville beach, as far as we can tell, is doing moderately okay. the problem is we can't get across that bridge. the winds are just too high, it's just too dangerous. only first responders could attempt to do that. from what we're hearing inside wrightsville beach, and this is a popular tourist destination, is they do have a problem with water. it's coming from the intercoastal behind me here and it's also coming from the atlant atlantic. on the atlantic oceanside, they're also experiencing some wind from one side and then the
other. and they also have some structural damage. but they're hunkered down, so really their ability to assess is made very difficult because of that. and talking about the wind load, the way it shifts, because in a hurricane, once the eye passes over, you get hit 180 degrees in a different direction. but because it's so sustained, 12 hours, the wind load on buildings is huge, and it continues to wear on those buildings. so it's gone from one way to another, and it's kind of a whip saw. yes, it's over time, but still, the impact is significant. that's the structural problem. you don't even mention the rain. that's going to be a problem that lingers for days. the water we're getting is the ocean water. eventually a lot of people will be getting the stuff falling from the sky. we're hearing 19 inches in this area. so we continue to be battered. i'm sure you're getting hit, and it shows you this is one very big, very powerful and very dangerous storm.
>> yeah, and martin, thank you. one that appears to not to want to move and it continues sitting in this area and dump all this rain, which is going to be problematic, really, for a couple days here. brooke baldwin, brooke, you've been out in these situations. usually when we're here, it comes through, causes a lot of damage, gets out of here and we go to the next one. this is sitting on top of us so we're going to be here for quite a long time. where i am, i'm told the brunt of it won't happen until maybe 10:00 to midnight. >> let's talk to the meteorologist about that. don, thank you so much. meteorologist george wright is with me now to look at the latest forecast. don's point, george, this is going to be with him for a while. it's sitting there, stewing, not moving. tell me about rainfall totals at this moment. >> we've had up to 18 inches in
oriental and wrightsville, north carolina. that storm is located about 30 miles northeast of myrtle beach. it will continue to drift to the west at 5 miles an hour, and then it will turn a little to the west-southwest as it moves to south carolina. then by tomorrow evening, it should be in central south carolina. we have problems with heavy bands of rain, the yellow indicating the heaviest rain bands, high winds and torrential downpours. >> torrential downpours not just in the coastal areas, right? so decently inland and the incident with that rainfall, no matter where you are near the coast or the river? it will be spilling over the banks? >> it will be spilling over the banks and eventually the water will run to the coast. the soil is so saturated that it doesn't take much wind to knock these trees over which causes more power outages.
we have tropical winds 170 miles from the center of the storm. there had been reports of tornadoes to the north and to the northeast of the storm. there are these spiral bands that come in, they encounter friction with the earth's surface. it produces low-level wind sheer and rotation and it helps spin up these tornadoes. we've had tornado watches and warnings over the eastern half of north carolina today and that will continue into tonight. >> as though a hurricane isn't enough with all this rain that we have to deal with the potential for tornadoes. what is your biggest concern? what is the biggest misnomer when people are saying, well, it's a category 1, and it's slow moving. what would you say about that? >> even though it's a category 1, it had been a category 4. it has to rain itself out and it's just sitting over the area and it will continue to rain and rain and rain. as you can see, there are some areas of light blue where you don't see any of the green or
yellow. the water is actually coming from the land and then you will see periods where there isn't any rain and then it will start pouring again. anywhere from 19 to 22 inches can be expected. >> thinking about those rescue crews over the next couple days. george wright, thank you so much. appreciate that. i want to touch base now with someone who planned to ride out the storm, had a change of plans. we talked just a few days ago to krist kristin reinhold. she said she didn't have a way out of myrtle beach where they live, and that is where the kindness of strangers stepped up. christine, my twitter blew up after you and i chatted two days ago. so many people wanting to help you, you and your heart of gold with all your dogs. tell me how you got help to get out. >> well, it was just amazing.
a lady from palm springs, california, kate zena, and a lady from new york and several -- elizabeth padilla from texas. there was so many -- and trudy. all these ladies got together and started a message on facebook. they were determined to get me out of there. they were going to buy a car for me, but the dealer couldn't get out of the area to get to a dealership, so they found a u-haul. they paid for this and gave me money. total strangers did this for us. >> love that. how are the pups? >> they're doing great. we're here with my cousin, don stevens, in crossville, tennessee. we're at his condo. even though it was a good ride for them, they're doing great. we got here about 4:00-something this morning, and they're doing really well.
i've had them out several times and they know as long as mom is here, everything is okay. >> isn't that amazing? dogs just know. dogs just know. >> we just got word from back home that they're without power already. my neighbors are all gone, so i don't know what's going on with my house right now. we'll just wait until further in the week. kate, this lady with the heart of gold, she told me, don't worry. whatever is going to happen is going to happen, but we'll be here for you. just amazing that strangers will step up and do this stuff for you. >> let me brag on you. as a stranger riding out hurricane matthew, and we had talked a couple days ago about how you helped rescue a number of dogs who were stranded by owners who got out of town, and i know you then took in several of those dogs. so i can only imagine you're already thinking ahead to what you can do in the wake of, you know, hurricane florence. i'm out of time, but i know we're going to stay in touch with you, christine.
at least that's the way traders and investors on wall street are reading into it. whether you believe in the story those numbers are telling, people who have put money at risk in the market have made their call for now. as you can see, stock futures are lower, interest rates have ticked higher. the drop in the value of the stock market, the drop in the value of u.s. government bonds and the subsequent tick higher in interest rates has to do a lot with the strength of the economy and whether the fed can lower or raise interest rates in the future. getting into some of the details around that report, the sharp increase versus expectations in the headline jobs number is generally viewed as positive. the tick higher in the unemployment rate, amid less labor force participation, is also more on the negative side. the household survey that is used to calculate the unemployment rate also showed that the number of americans that say they currently hold a job actually dropped by around 108,000. that is definitely a negative.
negotiations on a potential border bill that was not successful. the simple fact of the matter is that the same laws were in effect back when president trump was in office are still in effect. but the difference is the unwillingness of this white house and this administration simply to enforce the law. and you know the numbers. the numbers of people coming across have just been unprecedented along with the drugs that have come across that have taken the lives of 108,000 americans including 71,000 due to fentanyl, the leading cause of death among 18 to 45-year-olds. and then there is the 400,000 unaccompanied children that have been placed with sponsors in the united states and simply lost by the biden administration. they can't tell you whether these children are going to school, getting the healthcare they need. whether they are trafficked or sex or forced into labor as "the new york times" investigative piece months ago disclosed. so they simply don't know and
you were a foreigner and you'd robbed them." and a woman of asian origin said, "it was like we were dumb because english wasn't our first language, that we struggled to make sense of basic accounting." balwinder gill says he was wrongly accused of stealing 108,000 from the post office in 200a. he had a mental breakdown afterwards and was sectioned three times. then in 2009, his mum was found guilty of stealing 57,000 from the same oxford branch. her conviction was eventually overturned. i think with my parents, because their english is very broken, people would get quite abrupt with them. they weren't really empathetic towards their language, yet they were very pleased with their money and assets and what value they could see that they could take from them. but they weren't valuing them as people. i felt that from my own experience and having spoken to them at length about this. are you saying racism in your mind was at play?
out fellow democratic leaders in new york state. getting its hands on letters from mayokas to hochul and new york city mayor adams. knocking their handling of the influx. dhs confirms to us that it gave the state and city dozens of recommendations. they include improving information collection and communication with migrants. building out and focusing on case management and pushing information through dhs on asylum applications. new york city mayor eric adams fired back today. >> last year i think we were up to 15,000. we stated that washington, this is a problem. we did not get a response. we have almost 108,000 cities across our entire country. everyone should absorb this. they dropped this all on new york city. >> john: joey jones is a retired u.s. marine bomb tech. adams said they dropped this all
i just got to let him be him and back up. he comes around. so is this what people want to hear about in this documentary? >> the race to the white house has been now -- >> confusing -- >> president trump is still leading in that state by about 108,000 votes. >> for days after the election, there was not a clue. it just left everybody worried and stressed. >> philadelphia became kind of ground zero for the election battle. the convention center in the center of town is where all the votes were being counted. crowds started gathering outside. you had trump supporters gathered outside and you had biden supporters. they were facing off against each other across the street. >> people were dressing up as a constitution. people were dressing up as mailboxes. they're holding signs saying, we the people. progressive, conservative america, in one place. literally, these two streets outside the philly convention center. trump's legal team composed of
superrich, and now his donors, small dollar and big, are paying his legal bills? >> no, i don't think they're worried about it one bit. and you know, the latest report from one of trump's arms shows that they spent $108,000 on milan's hair pressure. a little hard to connect that to the costs. it's listed, by the way, as a payment for political strategy. but you know, it wasn't that long ago that donald claim to be worth over ten billion dollars, which if he only earned a 5% annual return, which would mean it has an income over $500 million a year. and why would he need to raise money for his own or anyone else's legal defense if he had that kind of money? of course, he doesn't. [laughter] >> well man, is there an argument to be made that this legal defense fund is the one time that trump is actually being straight with people about where their money is
trouble, i would certainly want to be sure that my lawyer was only worried about me and not worried about the guy who potentially was facing the most criminal liability in the whole thing. >> david, if i were to give money to a politician, in theory, i would think, yeah, it's because i want them to get reelected, it's because i care about this campaign. do you think that the people who are donating to trump's pac, do you think they know or care that the money is just going to pay this guy's legal bills, a guy who touts himself superrich, and now his donors, small dollar and big, are paying his legal bills? >> no, i don't think they're worried about it one bit. and you know, the latest report from one of trump's arms shows that they spent $108,000 on milan's hair pressure. a little hard to connect that to the costs.
transferred $60 million from -- these are all con stillcitylati trump worlds. they are but why did they transfer $60 million? it was supposed to be for television ads and investing in the campaign. the leadership pac spent money on all these legal fees. >> can i just also add one more thing that the pac spent money on? it looks like they spent money on a stylist forelania trump. $108,000 went to a stylist for strate consulting in the form of six payments of $18,000 a year. how do i get that? >> this is one of the reasons why i'm sure donald trump want ed to run for president. facing these legal indictments hanging over his head, it's convenient to have this.
lawmakers about who may remain on the border unprotected. greg habit of texas relocated some to sanctuary cities. democrat politicians should put their money where their mouth is. after taking into tens of thousands of migrants, people are singing a different tune. >> we have 108,000 cities, villages, towns. if everyone takes a small portion and it is coordinated to ensure those coming here to this country, in a lawful manner, is actually moved throughout the country, it is not a burden on one city. >> in chicago, migrants have taken over police stations.