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Democracy right. >> thats why i call it a contested convention. if they did have a brokered convention i hope they take applications because i would apply and you would too to be a broker. at the very least it would result in an ambassadorship to a warm country. >> id take that. >> but we dont have brokers anymore. who would do this? who isnt tainted by one dan date or another or one ideology or another? theres no one, quote, universally respected in this very devicive contest. >> is it possible...

Crowd happens. what if kasich wins his state of ohio, what if rubio wins florida, what would that look like? the magic number here is 1,237. if trump doesnt get those two biggies where his opponents live, hed be at less than half that. if he played it out further, he could still get there by march 15, there would be a real scenario. however, if kasich loses high to trump, if rubio loses florida to trump, now kasich is still in double digits and rubio falls far behind cruz. that shows you how imp...

Hes got ohio coming up march 15th and he says hes going to win ohio. and obviously, if he doesnt win ohio, its all over for john kasich. what is the likelihood he can win ohio? >> i think its pretty much a toss-up. and i think that hes got to get those trump supporters who, you know, seem to love trump in michigan. i mean, its largely the same type of state. and i think john kasichs biggest problem is the perception that hes kind of like a jon huntsman. hes got to be a lot more republican and he...

Support, that remains to be seen. again, we keep saying this over and over again. his supporters are entrenched. theyve decided on him months ago. but the question, thomas, is can he get to that magic number of 1,237 delegates? right now marco rubio, certainly, mitt romney, ted cruz and john kasich are all trying to keep him from that number so it goes into a contested convention. >> katy tur reporting from new orleans for us. thanks so much. we want to go now to the campaign of marco rubio and ...

Conservative. >> michael, lets fast forward here to cleveland. what happens if going into cleveland, donald trump does not have the requisite 1,237 delegates on first ballot? then what? how do we see that unfold? >> thats when things get interesting. thats when we have our first contested convention in quite a while. and its going to be winner take all, its going to be pretty exciting. and i hope that the result is that we have a ticket we can unify behind and its a ticket that believes in conse...

Schoolyard fashion and they think that that only diminished him as a potential grown-nup in the room. now that you see mitt romney stand there in contrast to what we have heard from cruz and rubio and the others, dont you think there is a scenario if there is gridlock and the contested convention possibility that you yourself so interestingly communicated on "nightly news" and in our special coverage the other night, isnt mitt romney the grown-up alternative? >> well, its a good question. let me...

Doesnt have i believe 1,237 delegates that hes going to need on the first ballot to get the nomination, this thing could get pretty ugly. >> oh, but thats the key. the key is that donald trump has to win overwhelmingly. the people have to turn out. they have to see the tricks and maneuvers of the establishment and they have to win resoundingly so that we dont end up at a brokered convention where they will put up somebody like romney -- i mean rubio, who is clearly not the peoples choice, and we...

Hes close to securing -- hes certainly in the lead with delegates, but hes not that close to securing the nomination yet. he could be much closer after march 15 with winner take all states like ohio and florida where we are now. but if ted cruz does well in texas border states, and if marco rubio does well with college-educated professionals in a place like north carolina, that could push this contest down to the end of the line. thats on june 7 when new jersey and california vote. so we could s...

Now. and in terms of where this goes from here, 1237, thats the number you need to be nominated, over the next week, well start to get into some other big states. this weekend, youll have kansas, youll have kentucky, youll have caucuses in those states. louisiana will have a primary. next week, michigan is a big one. michigan is a state that john kasich has been targeting, but his campaign says they think donald trump can win there. and you get to the 15th, and thats where you get that winner ta...

With that in mind, and with a lot of other races settled, steve kornackis got an eye on the delegate count, and what this means in terms of the overall formal mathematical race for the republican nomination. >> and i want to start by saying, look, this is really complicated math on the republican side. this is sort of an estimate here that were putting together, a sort of back of the envelope calculations. but the key here, remember, on the republican side, youre looking for 1,237 delegates. wel...