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Having vice president pence violate the 12th amendment, his oval office, and the electoral count act. and even in that way of showing that trump was willfully blind to the facts, or to the law. either one of those would have suffice to establish criminal intent to the points that the judge made in his witness statement when he said about the accountability of trump stealing the election. he said willful blindness to the law is not a legal defense. and he referred to it as criminal liability ther...

But, joe, when you look at the evidence, at some point, you have to amalgamate it all together and say it is overwhelming and it is important to americans there be some accountability here so this can never happen ben. >> interesting news yesterday on that front, by the way. we learned the doj requested transcripts of all the depositions conducted by this committee, showing their interest, perhaps, in some criminal prosecution here. john eastman was right at the center of yesterdays hearing. the...

>> i appreciate that. in our investigation, the select committee obtained evidence suggesting dr. eastman never really believed his own theory. let me explain. on the screen, you can see a draft letter to the president from october 2020. in this letter, an idea was proposed that the vice president could determine which electors to count at the joint session of congress. but the person writing in blue eviscerates that argument. the person who wrote the comments in blue wrote, quote, the 12th amen...

The plan to steal the election. sort of like, okay, all can be forgiven now. its unbelievable. i think the vice presidents characterization of it is really accurate. andrea, you point out something really important here, which is that eastman blows back and forth with the wind. every time greg jacob, who is pences chief counsel, comes at him with an explanation for why the plan is illegal or unconstitutional and jacob writes this very lucid three-page memo where he talks about how the 12th amend...

Over again that she was in and out of the oval office, trying to convince her father to do something. extensive testimony thats already been released stating as such. theres a few things that really stood out to me yesterday. first of all, john eastman has been introduced into the scheme. i think he has been named as a co-conspirator. that ruling we keep referencing from judge david carter, the california district judge who ultimately has ordered that john eastman turn over his emails to the sel...

The more that you talk to people who are close to the president, the more you talk to people who told him something, or heard something for him, the closer you are to proving his intent. but theres a big difference between what hes told and what he knows. you could spend the next month telling me about quantum physics, and you could prove you told it to me that you couldnt prove that i understood it and you know, on one hand i would always talk about how ignorant president trump is, and on the o...

President trump had in one ear all of the officials, members of his team who we heard who said that this plan was illegal, but on the other side he had eastman saying he could do it. now we know that even, according to mark short, eastman acknowledged that it was a violation of the 12th amendment in the presence of the former president. he did it anyway. what are your big take-aways from what we heard in the most recent hearing? >> first, it was incredibly astonishing, i attended the hearing in ...

Was an attempted coup. it was an attempt to overthrow democracy. it was an attempt to stop dead in its tracks on january 6th the peaceful transition of power and that was a coup. it was a multi-facetted criminal conspiracy led by the president of the united states to stop by whatever means necessary the proper counting of electoral votes under the 12th amendment. >> thats what well hear starting thursday evening. tune in to cnn. well be covering them live. thanks one and all for being here. "t...

He joins me now. george, we have the big reveal here of what this memo was. and its create granular and how they envisioned this, say truly, cool being pulled off. what is your impression of it? >> absolutely, the judge was absolutely right to order released under the crime fraud exception, it was an attempt to completely overturn the election, and refused to apply the electoral count act, which under the 12th amendment governs the counting the vote by congress, not that the president. theres ev...

In a way that would set the stage for a failure of a majority in the electoral college. and then, kicking the whole thing into the house of representatives, under the 12th amendment, for a so-called, contingent election. so, that was the whole thing. and when we got to the floor, at 1:00 on january 6th, i was very attentive to what was mike pence going to do. and he ended up sending us this memo, which went out to everybody in congress, saying, he couldnt do what donald trump was asking him to d...