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Now spartz voting present, that means on this round, 212 votd for jeffries, 201 voted for kevin mccarthy. 20 voted for byron donalds. one voted for present. that means there were only 433 votes cast in this fourth round. 50% plus 1 of that is 217. so what that did is lowered the threshold from 218 to 21. neither jeffries nor mccarthy is anywhere near that, but the danger a little bit for mccarthy is present votes can help him in lowering the threshold. but he needs the present votes to be coming...

Right before another vote. if you dont think you can pause, go ahead. >> we have new reporting in as you were speaking which confirms, house democrats are making it official that they are going to whip against a motion to adjourn. as we have been talking about, dems will not give a life line to the republicans. they are going to resist. represent scott perry said he is not backing down. congresswoman edwards, not surprising democrats will hold firm. it calls into question what we will see eight ...

Congressman davis, it doesnt seem as though anything has moved in the last 24 hours, were waiting for the final vote to come in but its basically going to be the same as the third ballot yesterday, 202 votes for mccarthy, 212 for the democrat hakeem jeffries and 20 anti-mccarthy votes, in this case theyre all voting for a fairly relatively long shot obscure candidate, congressman byron donalds. is it even possible at this point, congressman, for mccarthy to change the minds of 15 of these 20 no ...

Sense? are you hearing anything about that? or is that simply a concern that democrats are learning to move against here? >> democrats are united behind hakeem jeffries. i think democrats are also prepared to stand back and let them go through their dysfunction. theres no reason. i know theres been speculation about maybe democrats will craft some sort of consensus. i have not heard that at all from within the party. i think that democrats are on course to be there for the duration. all 212 vote...

Theatrics first and foremost. i know theres a lot of talk about whats happening and whats not happening. yes, we have one person switch and one person vote present. and i think that speaks to some political agendas that are at play here. at the end of the day, we all want to see these big ticket items that we have all campaigned on that we promised our constituents that we would get to work on, like the border, stopping the fentanyl poisoning. >> cutting the spending. getting the government out ...

>> 217. >> thats my point. so her present vote -- its negligible. >> she made it harder for mccarthy. >> if all the democrats keep voting for hakeem jeffries the republicans cannot lower the threshold. if they lower it too much they will elect hakeem jeffries speaker. >> if they lower 212, hakeem jeffries will have the votes. >> trump did not move the needle at all on that vote. >> exactly. >> fascinating because the 20 -- >> good point. >> 20 rebels are all ultra maga super ultra maga. >> rump ...

>> will the house be in order? the tellers agree in their t tallies -- the tellers agree in their tallies that the total number of votes cast is 433. of which the honorable hakeem jeffries of the state of new york has received 212. [ cheers and applause ] >> the honorable kevin mccarthy of the state of california has received 201. [ applause ]

For andrew clyde. we have the fifth ballot for speaker and the fifth ballot that seems to be moving in the same direction as the first four? >> exactly. it was 21 on the last ballot. 21 republicans who did not vote for mccarthy. 20 voted for donalds. one voted present. and again were just tracking as they go through the list alphabetically. how are they voting on the first ballot? and none of these have voted for kevin mccarthy on any of the previous ballots. all sticking with donalds on this ba...

Hakeem is a new candidate, a new young leader that brings a fresh voice to the house. those moderate republicans should be coming to us to govern this country: i think its possible. they may need to lose a little patience before they see the light. our 212 votes are solid. theyre not going anywhere. >> conor lamb from the great commonwealth of pennsylvania. thanks to all of you for watching a lot of msnbc today. ill see you at 5:00 on our streaming channel. nicolle picks it up with "deadline" ri...

Will the house be in order? >> the tellers agree in their tallies that the total number of votes cast is 433. of which the honorable hakeem jeffries of the state of new york has received 212. [ applause ] >> the honorable kevin mccarthy of the state of california has received 201. [ applause ] >> the honorable byron donalds of the state of florida has