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December 11, 2012
System of that particular country of that size in a managed economic, in a communist country works. >> the worst part, martha the jobs they shipped overseas, american workers theyre not paying taxes on, mr. immelt. >> not just immelt. virtually every big corporation. >> that is nazi eighting. >> tax reform issue i would love to take on. that is good point to bring up. andrea. see you on "the five.". >> it is over andrea. take it easy. >> i need therapy, bob i dont know. >> you do obviously. >> i...
December 11, 2012
Know that it would cause the ripples but, instead, we are saying, well, if this could be the outcome in michigan, why couldnt this be the outcome in my native pennsylvania? why couldnt this be the outcome in ohio? it speaks to a fragile position unions find themselves in in all parts of the country. >> louis, does it put the democratic party in a fragile position? many say that the whole reason democrats are behind unions to curry favor and time to vote that you have this huge bloc of people to ...
December 11, 2012
Something which were not sure he fully, frankly, understood. which is that nobody is required to join a union. quite the opposite under law. >> congressman dingell and conyers say they tried to explain to the governor that people wont lose their jobs if they dont pay union dues. the meeting might not have helped. the governor said this moments after the congressional press conference was held. >> michigan workers are hard-working people. and shouldnt they be able to make the choice to say they s...
December 11, 2012
Something that were not sure he fully, frankly, understood. which is that nobody is required to join a union. quite the opposite under law. >> congressman dingell and conyer say they tried to explain to the governor that people wont lose their jobs if they dont pay union dues. the meeting might not have helped. the governor said this moments after the congressional press conference was held. >> michigan workers are hard-working people. and shouldnt they be able to make the choice to say they see...
December 11, 2012
Certainly theyre going to be very energized in the general election two years from now but thats a whole point of passing legislation in a lame duck session. you get it done in far advance of the next regular election as you can. two years away. whens the economy going to be like? are other issues going to supercede this? >> michigan with the fifth highest percentage of unionized workers, 17.5%. the states unemployment, 9.1% in october. the in additions sixth highest. we know the national averag...
December 11, 2012
Its going to hit your desk tomorrow. are you still determined to sign it? >> yes, i am. again, it had reached critical mass in terms of being a divisive issue in our state. >> governor rick snyder saying he will sign it and its passed so its going to the governors desk. what political story will make headlines in 24 hours? jonathan capehart joins us now. >> good afternoon. >> this michigan labor fight is engaged and do you think that this could mean the further weakening of the labor movement ac...
December 11, 2012
Re-election relatively soon and face a more united democratic party. >> that was the threat to scott walker. that was the very threat that he faced -- >> correct. >> this monster or wave of force. >> but i would say the difference there was in a referend referendum, talking about a smaller group of people to vote. this one because it seems so unnecessary, it wasnt something by the way that governor snyder said he was going to run on. he said the opposite. >> right. which was the same case with w...
December 11, 2012
>> and chris, a lot of attention, of course, on the republican governors pushing this and as our first read team pointed out the big battle in wisconsin with scott walker, democrats all over coming in the state and vowing him to take down. he survived. is there a lesson to be learned? governor snyder saying indiana is a right to work state. is it a new day that your party will have to awaken to or another fight to be had here? >> i dont think its a new day that we have to awaken to. the logic of...
December 11, 2012
Martha: there is the scene there. that is a live shot this morning. we were told there would be perhaps thousands of people gathering on the scene. certainly seems to becoming out to be that kind of a turnout. take a look at that this morning, 9:01 eastern time in lansing, michigan. the governor is set to sign this into law later today. it will become the 24th right to work state in the nation. this is growing trend across the united states. you look at states like michigan and wisconsin, both v...
December 11, 2012
To work here because its the best opportunity. martha: that case a lot and i know a lot of people in michigan people as you do. we are learning that there are thousands of people massing around the state capitol. we saw similar scenes in wisconsin during a similar battle last year. are you concerned about the backlash, and perhaps even violence in the wake of this vote? >> i dont think so, martha, the state police have everything under control. they are there to protect the safety of everybody a...