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And the first thing is that who would have imagined the federal government who had support from a state that passed a statute that was designed to match up exactly with federal law so they could support federal law, who would have imagined that later on the supreme court would find parts of that unconstitutional? i dont agree with their decision, but joe arpaio couldnt have known that when he put his program in place. joe arpaio was living underneath the 287-g or with the 287-g program which is ...

Good to see you, as always, congressman. justify the pardon. what is your case? >> well, i watched this unfold, chris, from my seat on the judiciary committee in the house of representatives. we had democrats in majority and we had president obama elected. and i saw that justice department react to what i thought was a political statements of the democrats on the judiciary committee and start to put the squeeze on joe arpaio because they didnt want enforcement of our immigration laws down in mar...

Laura coat, is that he is not following the rule of law. i is shou he should have waited until he was sentenced. that he should have served that and then a pardon. >> caller: i think thats a significant, ill say liberally interpreted. there may be a tradition out there to wait until theson tense would be delivered, but i dont think there is for anybody to serve their sentence. i saw this coming as a political persecution. i now judge arpaio. ive gone down and looked at the operation. he was func...

Mccain and jeff flake have criticized this pardon, and presumably, they know this sheriff and the situation in their state best. whats your reaction? its their state and they know him. >> caller: i would probably think ive spent more time with joe arpaio than either of them. but think have been essentially for open borders. think don they dont want to secure the border. they have abeen for amnesty all their political life. so you often see people take a position thats consistent for what they ho...

Government to enforce this law. i have the authority to do so. he believed in that. and i believe in it, actually, and i think that the decision of the supreme court on sb-1070 was erroneous, and, but that doesnt mean we dont respect it and honor it, but the 287-g program was pulled so they could persecute him for profiling. that was their intent. i heard it many times before they followed through. this has been a long grist mill that hes been dragged through. im glad the president has pardoned ...

Dont want to lose funding. you are arguing federalism in parent? >> the facts of the matter, people took a look at sanctuary city policy and how crime changed in the cities after it was affected and no significant increase in violence. it is a good amount of that evidence when cities and localities are forced in the federal immigration programs, no affect on crime and like 287 g increase in violent crime rate and when feds cancelled crime familiared them. >> you -- followed them. >> you are wron...

Dont want to lose funding. you are arguing federalism in parent? >> the facts of the matter, people took a look at sanctuary city policy and how crime changed in the cities after it was affected and no significant increase in violence. it is a good amount of that evidence when cities and localities are forced in the federal immigration programs, no affect on crime and like 287 g increase in violent crime rate and when feds cancelled crime familiared them. >> you -- followed them. >> you are wron...

Is not just helping the feds, but doing so voluntarily. >> inside any american jail the booking process for an inmate is practically identical. but if you think all of that information is shared, think again. >> these are law enforcement professionals trying to keep their communities safe. >> because immigration is enforced federally, local authorities cannot access the ice data base. that means theres no way to know whether someone theyve got in custody is legal or not unless they physically ca...

Dallas. >> the speetwentyeight seven claims this program has the ability to save lives and improve public safety which is one of the main reasons the sheriff of parent county texas which encompasses fort worth metro area tells me that he assigned his department opt to participate. its the 287g program, as its called pure federal immigration officials work closely with staff and those local jurisdictions, teaching them how to check the legal status of suspects who walks through their doors. if th...

They won in 2016. steve bartman can come out of his house. a big fan along the way. >> shannon: no word on bill buckners win. 18 counties in texas are signing up to partner with ice. casey siegel joins us live from dallas to tell us more. casey, how will this work? >> good morning. this is called the 287g program. partnership between the federal government and local law enforcement agencies. just yesterday 18 sheriffs across the lone star state signed their pledge of support for this and have en...