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Walker, ted cruz, anyone who does that could be the nominee. it is so wide open. the guy that can hit the -- tap into the sense that conservatives need to be conservative and need to be able change and reform but also about governing could be powerful. >> all right. bill kristol, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> great having you here again. gene, thank you as well. really appreciate it. >> okay. >> and before we go -- we want to remind everyone to follow nicole on twitte twitter @nicolledwall...