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Obama care will increase healthcare costs by hundreds of billions of dollars instead. according to the centers for medicare and medicaid services from 2012 to 2022 healthcare spending is projected to grow 5.8 percent every year for a total of more than $620 billion due to an improving economy broader coverage under the affordable care act and an aging population. meanwhile the congressional budget office projects from 2013 to 2028 spending on government programs from 4.6 percent gdp to 8 percent...

2010, top 10 paid paid about 70% of all taxes. in 2010, the top 25% paid about 87% of all taxes. and president obama says the so-called rich are still not paying their fair share and wants to raise taxes after they raised them 620 billion, another 600 plus billion, is there any way hes going to get that through with the republican lawmakers in the senate or the house? >> no, and plenty of democrats that wouldnt want to do it. the problem for the president now is one of kind. he needs a deal to a...

Argument among republican colleagues, we would have been open to that had he not raised tax rates on the upper income, otherwise, you would have been open to this. youre not open now because he did that. >> he got a tax increase on the rich. $620 billion as a result of the fiscal cliff. hes gotten over $1.7 trillion in new tax revenue to work with. his budget calls for another $1 trillion on top of that. at some point you pile big burdens on the economy and its impossible to recover and generate...

Least as i understand the senate budget? >> somebodys going to pay higher taxes because it it doesnt matter how you define that. when youre talking about whether closing loopholes or talking about rates and taxes to pay more taxes, we believe that-- >>, but the loopholes, someone got a bargain because someone got a lobbyist to persuade you guys to give that person a loophole? >> the point is you shouldnt have to raise taxes until you deal with spending and the presidents got tax increases, 620 b...

Hurts everybody. >>-- well be talking about revenues, talking about expenses, entitlements, we have to do that. the problem right now is that we dont see from the president any structural changes in this unsustainable course on the entitlement. >> we see the request for more and more taxes at a time we just raised taxes 620 billion dollars. we believe that obamacare is it a program that will not work. we believe obamacare will actually leave the hospitals, doctors, health care providers, turning...

>> some said it could be going to develop sit reduction. >> im willing to consider that. we did $620 billion of that. >>g joining me now. alex we are looking for signs and i noticed that tom coburn shaved his beard. is that a breakthrough? >> that is what that means, the big game is now. i think it is a good sign, he has been more moveable than other folks on the key issues. the fact that he is saying that lindsey graham has suggested the same thing. paul ryan is sitting at home trying to figure...

To consider that. we just did $620 billion of that. $620 billion, and what i would tell you is fixing the long-term, fixing the long-term entitlement problems that we have in this country, actually saving medicare, actually saving social security, will do a ton in terms of our long-term ability to grow and restoring confidence in this country. if you talk to any of the rating agencies, thats what theyre waiting to see. theyre not waiting to see taxes go up. theyre waiting to see the real problem...

Relationship-building that will allow us to do that. >> did you talk specifics about getting to a budget deal? >> yeah, we talked a lot. their premise of where we are is totally bogus in terms of whats been accomplished so far. but putting that aside, the president was very honest about what the issues are and how you can go about solving them and what the political realities are on both sides and the resistance thats going to be there and what its going to take. but you know, if you think about...

Sequester. in fact, he is taking the long view. because you have said that you believe that we need to close loopholes, because that is the presidents position, because of the long view on the economy, why is it over the weeks and weeks and weeks leading up to today, not just a meeting tomorrow but leading up to today, hasnt there been a move to a long view that involves dealing with loopholes and preventing the sequester from going into place? >> i hope, melody, that we will get to a place wher...

And for them, if youve got a deficit it clearly means that the government doesnt tax enough, we dont have tax enough-- >> or you mean you spend too much, one or the other. >> we believe that the government spends too much. again, two very different views of what the problem is and whats contributed to it, but if you look at revenues and the congress militia budget office in their update two weeks ago said that revenues are coming back, in fact, theyre going to exceed by almost a full percentage ...