is working, its all all right. i meet so many people who are struggling with their bills, and the prime minister just keeps saying... he lives in a different world. next, listen to this exchange on nhs waiting lists where the audience laughed at the prime minister. we are now making progress. the waiting lists are coming down. but what keir starmer didn't mention to you, which you did, julie... waiting lists were 7.2 million. they're now 7.5 million. he says they're coming down, and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are now coming down. they are now coming down. 7.2, when you said you'd get them down... 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher... laughter they are down, right? and both offered direct answers to this question. if you had loved ones on a long waiting list for surgery, - would you, if you felt that - that was the only way forward, use private health care? rishi sunak? yes - keir starmer? no _ what about how much tax
but inflation is back to normal, wages are growing, taxes are now being cut. keir starmer would put all that progress at risk. he would put up everyone's taxes by £2,000. keir starmer. paula, ijust don't know how you feel when you hear a prime minister say, having heard what you're going through, that the plan is working, it's all all right. i meet so many people who are struggling with their bills, and the prime minister just keeps saying... he lives in a different world. next, listen to this exchange on nhs waiting lists where the audience laughed at the prime minister. we are now making progress. the waiting lists are coming down. but what keir starmer didn't mention to you, which you did, julie... waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million. he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are now coming down. they are now coming down. 7.2, when you said you'd get them down... 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher...
you're worse off if you earn £75,000. next, have a look at the exchange of the nhs — here's what we heard in the debate. but we are now making progress, the waiting lists are coming down. but what keir starmer didn't mention to you — which you did, julie... the waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million. he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are now coming down. they are now coming down. 7.2, when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were higher. laughter yes, because the nhs was impacted by industrial action. and if it wasn't for that... audience groans ..half a million appointments would have been saved. so it's somebody else�*s fault. so, this is the picture with waiting lists in england. you can see they go up quite significantly after the pandemic, reaching 7.8 million waits a few months ago. now, as you can also see at the end, it goes down a wee bit — but the levels are higher
to raise taxes. but that is just the start because there is a long list of other things he needs to find the money for. it's notjust going to start and stop there. there are £2000 worth of tax rises coming for every working family. what happened here is it's a classic. they put in pretend labour policies to the treasury and then they get a false readout. the nhs is still recovering from covid. we went through the best part of two years where the nhs couldn't conduct all the treatments it normally would and it is going to take time to recover— from that. but we are now making progress — the waiting lists are coming down. but what keir starmer... hang on. ..didn't mention to you... hang on. ..which you did, julie... waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million, he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down. laughter. they are now coming down. 7.2 when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down.
he�*s good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down. laughter. they are now coming down. 7.2 when you said you�*d get them down — 7.2 million — they�*re now 7.5 million. i�*d like you to explain how they�*re coming down. because they are coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7~2~~~ _ laughter. and they�*re now on their way down. laughter and applause. they are down, right? yes, because the nhs was impacted by industrial action. 0h! groaning. and if it wasn't for that, half a million appointments would have been saved. so it�*s somebody else�*s fault. so this is the picture with waiting lists in england. you can see they go up quite significantly after the pandemic — reaching 7.8 million waits a few months ago. now, as you can also see at the end, it goes down a wee bit, but the levels are higher than when rishi sunak took over as prime minister. he says that�*s down to strikes, and it�*s true to say they had an impact. but this is where you get the claim both that waiting lists have gone up, and that they�*ve gone down a bit. finally, let�*s quickly look at small—boats crossings. rishi sunak said they were down by a third.
last night, the party leaders faced questions not from members of parliament, but members of the public. i in the last few years, i found it. very difficult to make ends meet, and the money simply doesn't go far enough _ paula from huddersfield wanted to know what they'd do about the cost of living. my priority has always been to do what i can to support you. that started with bold action like the furlough scheme during the pandemic, and more recently my clear plan to bring inflation back to normal. paula, ijust don't know how you feel when you hear a prime minister say — having heard what you're going through — that the plan is working, it's all all right. but in discussing serious issues — such as nhs waiting lists — there were still some lighter moments. waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million, he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down. laughter. they are now coming down. 7.2 when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how
my priority has always been to do what i can to support you. that started with bold action like the furlough scheme during the pandemic, and more recently my clear plan to bring inflation back to normal. paula, ijust don't know how you feel when you hear a prime minister say — having heard what you're going through — that the plan is working, it's all all right. but in discussing serious issues — such as nhs waiting lists — there were still some lighter moments. waiting lists were 7.2 million, they're now 7.5 million, he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down. laughter. they are now coming down. 7.2 when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7.2... laughter. and they're now on their way down. laughter and applause. both men were asked if they would raise taxes to help meet the many challenges the country faces. but, repeatedly, rishi sunak asserted that labour would have to put taxes up. keir starmer is going to raise taxes. but that's just the start,
they're now 7.5 million, he says they're coming down — and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are... they are now coming down laughter. they are now coming down 7.2 when you said you'd get them down — 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7.2... laughter. and they're now on their way down laughter and applause. they are down, right? yes, because the nhs was impacted by industrial action. 0h! groaning. and if it wasn't for that, half a million appointments would have been saved. so it's somebody else's fault. so this is the picture with waiting lists in england. you can see they go up quite significantly after the pandemic — reaching 7.8 million waits a few months ago. now, as you can also see at the end, it goes down a wee bit, but the levels are higher than when rishi sunak took over as prime minister. he says that's down to strikes, and it's true to say they had an impact. but this is where you get the claim both that waiting lists have gone up, and that they've gone down a bit. finally, let's quickly took at small—boats crossings.
they are now coming down. 7.2 when you said you�*d get them down — 7.2 million — they�*re now 7.5 million. i�*d like you to explain how they�*re coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7.2... laughter. and they're now on their way down. laughter and applause. both men were asked if they would raise taxes to help meet the many challenges the country faces. but, repeatedly, rishi sunak asserted that labour would have to put taxes up. keir starmer is going to raise taxes. but that's just the start, because there's a long list of other things that he needs to find the money for. so it's notjust going to start and stop there. there are £2,000 worth of tax rises coming for every working family. what�*s happened here is it�*s a classic — they put in pretend labour policies to the treasury and then they get a false read—out. the new reform uk leader nigel farage says he wants to make this an immigration election — he�*ll be one of seven leading party representatives taking part in a bbc debate later this week. but last night, divisions between the main two parties in this issue were obvious. we need to smash the gangs that are running this vile trade, making a huge amount of money... applause.
because they are coming down from where they were when they were higher. 7.2... laughter. and they're now on their way down. laughter and applause. they are down. we need to smash the gangs that are running this vile trade, making a huge amount of money... applause. ..putting some of the most vulnerable people in boats across the channel. they're making a fortune. but if i am forced to choose between securing our borders and our country's security or a foreign court, i'm going to choose our country's security every single time. applause. if i'm prime minister, we will not pull out of international agreements and international law which is respected the world over. applause. we're joined now by the shadow paymaster general, labour's jon ashworth. thank you for coming and talking to us. how would you describe it, the debate last night, and how do you think your leader did? by, debate last night, and how do you think your leader did?— think your leader did? a strong performance — think your leader did? a strong performance from keir - think your leader did? a strong j performance from keir starmer think your leader did? a strong i performance from keir starmer and think your leader did? a strong - performance from keir starmer and he outlined the change he wants to this country after 1a years of chaos and decline under the conservatives but i think rishi sunak was exposed as