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Well, let me visit with you about hermans plan. this doesnt have a flat tax, value-added tax, it doesnt have a national sales tax. i mean, that is bickest difference right there -- biggest difference right there. americans do not trust washington, d.c. to have a new form of taxation. what they are looking for is simplicity. they are looking for something flat. they are looking for something that is fair. this plan addresses all of those. >> bret: texas governor rick perry in south carolina holdi...

Under the tax system weve got or file it on this postcard. >> perrys plan to keep the deduction for home mortgage interest, charitable contribution and state and local taxes with the $12,500 tax per person, make it less flat. but allowing a choice may be comforting. >> there is nobody worse off because of the plan. >> others argue the perry plan would shift the greater share away from larger corporation and wealthiest to the middle class. but a family of four has to make more than $50,000 to fac...

Also federal civilian hiring salaries frozen. then he talks about entitlement reform; specifically, social security. setting up retirement account for younger workers. those are the bullet points quickly. we are starting the panel earlier to make room for center seat segment. steve hayes, "weekly standard." a.b. stoddard, associate editor of the hill. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. steve, thoughts on the plan and the roll back? >> very strong. i like it a lot. it has a lot of aspects ...

Dont you think? and finally, weve all heard gop candidate michele bachmanns campaign promise to, quote, end obamacare, but does anyone know what her alternative plan might be? well, here she is, and ebenezer scrooge said something very much like this before the three ghosts arrive on christmas eve. lets listen to bachmann. >> we will always have people in this country, through hardship, through no fault of their own, who wont be able to afford health care. thats just the way it is. but usually...

9-9-9 plan came to the conclusion as most nonpartisan groups have concluded that the rich get a huge boon out of it and poor and middle class people have to pay much more. >> safe to say you dont think either plan will work, secretary, robert reich. always nice to see you, sir. battles over tax policies dont make for great sound bites but they can find a receptive audience online. that audience is growing. about two-thirds of adults use social networks. the question is now, who can win that ba...

Came up with, three tax rates, make it fair and get rid of the loopholes because loopholes are whats killing this country. >> john feehery, were not going to talk about loopholes, we agree we dont like them, theyre fat cats. but keeping up with this guy, you need a stopwatch. you shouldnt have to wait until friday to figure out what he meant on tuesday. thank you, john feehery, thank you, michael feldman. up next, michele bachmann has got a plan on what to do with all those sick and poor peopl...

Always want more jobs, we always want economic expansion, the question is do we want a fair tax system? >> and a flat tax will do that. >> well see. well see if the country likes that idea, but the polls show they dont. over the past few weeks, mitt romney has been talking more and more favorably about a flat tax concept. lets listen. >> i love a flat tax. my tax policy, theres a lot about a flat tax that works, but it means different things to different people. the so-called flat tax that steve...

Family. >> you are also reporting that as of 3:00 p.m. sunday, perry had no economic plan. how can that possibly be? we just watched him announce his flat tax plan in south carolina. you are saying as of sunday, he had nothing. >> they were still working on it. steve forbes had been in. they had been working on it. i spoke to a perry source who said that they really didnt have it down exactly what their plan was. the governor had fully been briefed on it. so obviously he has done a pretty good j...

Always want more jobs, we always want economic expansion, the question -- >> and a flat tax will do that. >> well see. well see if the country likes that idea, but the polls show they dont. over the past few weeks, mitt romney has been talking more and more favorably about a flat tax concept. lets listen. >> i love a flat tax. my tax policy, theres a lot about a flat tax that works, but it means different things to different people. >> the so-called flat tax that steve forbes championed how many...

Tomorrow, designed to overshadow herman cains 9-9-9 plan and compete for conservatives down society. also very, very important. so romney is looking at a divided conservative base of the republican party and hoping to capitalize on that in the early states by if theyre divided, perhaps, he hopes he can conquer them. there is a very thin level of support for mitt romney although hes broad and hes leading the polls, it doesnt take much to make a lot of them change minds. thats what his rivals are ...